valboy20:


I'm not sure your vexation is on par with mine. I'd have smashed something on his head If he had said something like this around me physically.

We ignore others when they say evolution is still a theory because outta ignorance they conflate theory with scientific theory but an imb.ecile that claimed to be a practicing doctor, NO F.UCKING WAY

Well they keep on doing the opposite of what they set out to do.

They claim to show love but when pushed a little, they pour out all their bile and hate

They claim to save and enlighten people from the darkness but the xtian monikers here on NL appear to be so dumb that am sure some normal xtians always have a 2nd thought when reading their posts. There are many christians here who just read and watch the events and believe me when i say the likes of Ebuka and Felixomor push those people farther from the faith.

felixomor:

Empty barrel
Abeg
Show me who takes your opinion serious

Whats my biz with who and what listens to my opinion

I just want you to fully explain to me how evolution is just a theory and shouldnt be accepted the same way gravity is just a theory right?

Just prove it to us.

OtemAtum:


Add this to your collection of ridiculous sayings of Felixomor: ANYTHING THAT HAS A CAUSE IS NOT NATURAL. We asked my guy if rainbow is not a natural phenomenon because it has a cause, my guy hibernated.

I fit even shun those ones.

But this one about evolution relates to his so called profession. If this guy is a doctor then he is a danger to the world

Definition of scientific theory as culled from wikipedia. If you like come and tell me how wikipedia can be edited by anyone so it aint good evidence.

A scientific theory is an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can, in accordance with the scientific method, be repeatedly tested, using a predefined protocol of observations and experiments.[1][2] Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and are a comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3]
It is important to note that the definition of a "scientific theory" (often ambiguously contracted to "theory" for the sake of brevity, including in this page) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of the word "theory".[4][Note 1] In everyday non-scientific speech, "theory" can imply that something is an unsubstantiated and speculative guess, conjecture, idea, or, hypothesis;[4] such a usage is the opposite of the word "theory" in science. These different usages are comparable to the differing, and often opposing, usages of the term "prediction" in science versus "prediction" in vernacular speech, denoting a mere hope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

Felixomor the quack scientist/doctor come and see the definition of scientific theory.

Next time when you say evolutionary theory you should know that you are referring to an accepted body of facts. If you like come and tell me how you cant know that evolution is real since you never observed it happen then i will know that you finished from Suleiman Barau Nursing School Niger State( where you never had access to a cadaver or even lab equipment)
Shameless quack

valboy20:
Funny how the imbe.cile called himself a scientist. He obviously didn't know that being a medical doctor doesn't make him a scientist, besides what kinda dumbo medical doctor thinks a scientific theory graduates to scientific law if not an impostor or a quack. This shitbag dumbo nurse should read up and understand the meaning of HYPOTHESIS, SCIENTIFIC THEORY AND SCIENTIFIC LAW and stop painting the thread with his tomfoolery

Leave the quack. Let me post the definition so the acclaimed quack can come and refute a scientific theory. The guy is definitely a liar and a ...

Am fuming now. I dont usually vex on NL but this guy has just crossed the line of acceptable stupidity

felixomor:


Its the same thing bro
Replace the "cancer" I said with "mutation"
It stands



This is theory you are pouring here
Not proven fact.
I can as well tell you humans were designed and even DNA codes for enzymes that are meant to repair "aberrations"
Sometimes external factors alter these enzymes and as a result mutations occur
And we have no where gotten near exhausting these factors that cause these
We are still learning and we can even decide to change what we have said before



Sorry man,
evolution is a theory
Not all of us even scientists believe it



Mutation is caused by factors both known and many more still unknown
As time goes we get to know
200 years ago, nobody ever knew that HP-Virus which is sexually transmitted could cause mutation in cells of the cervix
It was "" as u see some now
But here we are today.
So brother, what is "natural" now, will be known tomorrow


I have already explained that God so designed DNA beautifully that there are codons that code for enzymes that repair "aberrations"
And these enzymes can be interfered with
And we are still learning things that can interfere
So no conclusion is final for now



Read above


You wish.

For that daft statement you made, you are never and will never be a scientist. If your daft brain doesnt know the difference between a scientific theory and a hypothesis. A scientific theory isnt the same with your normal theory in secular life. A scientific theory is an accepted body of facts(tested, experimented and verified).

Nothing less than 96% of all reputable biologists and medical scientists accept evolution as a fact.

You have claimed to be a doctor before but for that stupid statement you made i can now confirm that you are nothing but a useless quack.
You follow laymen to say evolution is just a theory and later claim that you are different from a layman.
You need to be arrested for your obvious quackery. You were the same person that said that the human brain sleeps and now you can say that evoltuion is just a theory.

If Kingebuka says that i have no issue with it,
if Analice says that, no issue
If bennyann says that, no issue
If any other christian says that, no issue

But you acclaimed doctor uttered such ignorant drivel from your mouth, you are a disgrace to your profession and to science as a whole.

ilynem:

Job 26:7 (on the earth hanging on nothing)
Isaiah 40:22 (on the shape of the earth)
Gal 3: 26:28 (on slavery and misogyny)
As for your "virgin" point. Alma means young woman but can also be used to describe a virgin as all young unmarried maidens where believed to be virgins. And it might surprise you to know that when Jewish rabbis started translating the Hebrew texts into Greek, they translated the word alma into "parthenos" which is the Greek word for virgin. This was 200 years before the birth of Jesus and these people didn't even believe in a virgin birth.

I will first present a small list of failed biblical prophecies
Genesis 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.

Here God tells Isaac that his descendents (Hebrews) will be as numerous as the stars. Considering the number of stars there are in the universe, that would have to be on the order of 1020 Jewish people.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Christians say that this verse is a prophecy of Jesus' birth to a virgin. There are a couple problems with this prophecy...First, virgin in this verse is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word "almah", which actually means "young woman". A young woman is not necessarily a virgin. "Bethulah" would have been the correct word to use if the author meant virgin. Second, nowhere in the New Testament is Jesus referred to as Immanuel.

Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Damascus is still inhabited today with over a million people, and hardly a ruinous heap.

Isaiah 19:4-5 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts. And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.

The river mentioned here is the Nile. The Nile is still one of Egypt's greatest natural resource.

Isaiah 19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called, The city of destruction.

The Canaanite language has never been spoken in Egypt, and is now an extinct.

Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

There are uncircumcised people living in Jerusalem even today.

Ezekiel 29:10-11 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.

Never in its long history has Egypt ever been uninhabited for forty years.

Amos 9:15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

Many times, Jews have been pulled up out of their land. The ownership of their land is still being fought for.

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Nineveh was never overthrown. Why? Because God changed his mind in verse 3:10, despite what Malachi 3:6, Numbers 23:19 and Ezekiel 24:14 says about God never changing his mind.

Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Zechariah 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

Christians say that this prophecy is was fulfilled when Judas received 30 pieces of silver for betraying Jesus. Matthew 27:9 recites this verse, but incorrectly credits Jeremiah with the prophecy.

Matthew 1:22-23 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Again, Jesus is never referred to as Emmanuel (Immanuel).

Matthew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

Nowhere in the Old Testament is such a prophecy found, so how could such a one be fulfilled?

Matthew 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

There is no passage in the Old Testament that can be attributed to what Jesus is saying here.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Jesus states that all the signs marking the end of the world in Matthew 24 would be fulfilled before his generation ended. That generation ended 2000 years ago, and the world has not come to an end, neither has all those signs been fulfilled.

Matthew 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value.

This prophecy was never spoken by Jeremiah.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Jesus tells the high priest that he would see his second coming. The high priest is long dead, and Jesus hasn't returned yet.

Throughout the New Testament, the end of the world is prophesied as being very near, at hand, to be witnessed by those living at the time. Paul often told the people he preached to that they would be witnesses to Jesus' second coming. They are all long gone.

Let me face your points

The bible never condemned slavery but just regulated it. Show me just one verse in the bible that condemns slavery. I am 100% sure that you wont find it.

Bethulah means virgin and thats the word used in the bible to portray virgin.

pressplay411:
Can't believe I missed this.
Op your points are as valid as can be. It's imperative to express one's belief system or lack of, but more imperative is that it should be done with tact.

We live in a highly religious sphere and if care is not taken freethinkers risk being victimized and ostracized by religious fanatics in the name of fighting for God.

A progressive society must be tolerant of people's beliefs. I mean it's so bad once you fail to identify as a Christian or Muslim, the get uncomfortable. I try as much as possible to accommodate and respect others beliefs, and that's all we ask in return.

Are you a christian?

zionmade1:

Its ok. Ur life to live. I believe everyone is free to make choices

You are right.

Thanks

zionmade1:

Sorry bro. Thought u were one of those dat wud want me to carry dem to d building b4 they believe
BLW was evicted from ETF in 2012 and now they have a building at Odums, close to Junac table water along east west road.
Its a massive one for dat matter and i think OP shud visit there so he can cry more. I know wen Christians put their money to work it pains people like Akiintom so much

Thats impressive from BLW, they always led the way in any christian related thing.

FYI, am not a christian at least not since 2010, am agnostic

ilynem:

Please work! Don't get sacked

Work is over, i have to get home, dont worry i wont be sacked

ilynem:

Job 26:7 (on the earth hanging on nothing)
Isaiah 40:22 (on the shape of the earth)
Gal 3: 26:28 (on slavery and misogyny)
As for your "virgin" point. Alma means young woman but can also be used to describe a virgin as all young unmarried maidens where believed to be virgins. And it might surprise you to know that when Jewish rabbis started translating the Hebrew texts into Greek, they translated the word alma into "parthenos" which is the Greek word for virgin. This was 200 years before the birth of Jesus and these people didn't even believe in a virgin birth.

Bros am at work now.

I will answer you well in the evening.

Thank you for keeping the convo going and not derailing

ilynem:

Well, for one you need to see that accuracy on the prophesies of the Bible.
Well there are many reasons. Scientific accuracy, historical backing, etc. But I will give you two of them. One of them is the apt prophesies in the Bible. Majority of them was about Jesus! Being born of a virgin, being crucified (note that this prophecies were made when when even crucifixion was not a thing), his death and resurrection, etc. Also you really need to read about Daniel's prophesy of Alexander the great. You will be amazed at what you find.
Secondly, the Bible stands sure and true even till this present day. I remember one of my lecturers (an atheist) saying that the problem the Bible would have is that the world is changing. And the Bible might not be able to keep up. But it has been over 2000 years and it is still keeping up. The depths of knowledge in the Bible is one no other book can rival. People have to update books to keep up with the changing world but the Bible remains relevant even till today. Let us take for instance, the Koran which supports the beating of women. At that time it was a norm for husbands to beat their wives as a form of discipline. But with the rise of feminists and other women rights blah blah blah, beating your wife has become a travesty. This is where other "holy" books like the Koran has a problem. Shariah is not compatible with the present day society. The society preaches separation of church and state but search deep in the Bible, that came from Jesus himself when He said, "give to Caesar what is his and to God what is His". Also Paul talks about men and women being equal in Galatians 3, and preaches against wife beating even when at that time it was normal.
The Bible is futuristic and will continue to keep up with time.

Sorry to burst your bubble bros but the bible is not all you claim it is.

So many biblical prophecies have failed and fallen flat on their faces. I cant start mentioning them here

The messianic prophecies of jesus are very ambiguous and do not in any way point to Jesus. The most popular prophecy of Jesus being born of a virgin has been widely misinterpreted by xtians. The hebrew word in the prophecy was alma which means young woman, if the prophecy meant virgin then the word bethulah would hav been used.

The bible has faded out of modern western moral compass. So many things that were accepted as normal by the bible like slavery, misogyny etc have been debunked by secular humanists and have been eventually banned, in this case the bible was clearly outpaced by human morality.

The bible isnt scientifically accurate in any way
It claims diseases are caused by demons instead of pathogens
It claims the world is flat - a claim that has been debunked a long time ago
It claims the world has a firmament and the sun and the stars are in the firmament and even claims in the book of revelation that the stars will fall to the earth - something that is purely laughable from an astronomical point of view

There are uncountable unscientific claims in the bible.

Modern archaeology disproves the bible in so many ways. The flood story, the six day creation etc have been proven to be impossible by modern science

Your bible fails the test of a universally acclaimed word of god.

zionmade:

U went and not u are currently going.
So its useless telling u
Go back to d post, get d name of d building and do some research or didnt u see where i mentioned d name?

Bros no be fight

I attended BLW in ETF hall at a time so its news to me that BLW has a building in abuja campus now.

I am curious. Everything no be fight

ilynem:

Because we have the word of God. I didn't say you can't know God, I said it is impossible to know all of him. But we can always know more and more as we grow in the faith.

How do you know what you have is the word of god? Please dont tell me its because the book says so cause there are tons of books like that

zionmade:
U called Christ embassy. Yes am a testimony of that keep saying it principle. Wen i was a teenage who hit d street as early as 3am just to find money, passing through d dangers of d nigh, i kept saying am a success
Wen my teacher adviced me not to bother going to school because of no money i kept saying am a success
Wen it looks like things were opposite of wat i was saying, i kept saying am a success.
In University days in d midst of impending Es i kept saying am a success and i graduated as one of d best.

Go to blw uniport where a building worth 250million naira was raised by students of uniport. During the building period, students bought cars for themselves and bcame a lot richer even though they were constantly giving. I gave one of d most precious of belonging of mine and my brother got a job without application in d biggest oil company in nigeria. Parents do come to d church to testify how dat building project changed their family because of d participation of their children.
Where i am today was because i kept saying d same thing.

I dnt care wat u want to believe but next time do a detailed research before u utter Rubbish

I went to Uniport. Which building is that?

ilynem:

2 peter 3:18. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
We are supposed to keep growing in our knowledge of God. You can't know all of Him. Christianity is a school you can't graduate from because everyday you study the word, you find out something new about Him. So no one knows everything about God. We just tend to grow in the knowledge of Him.

I am not asking how you know everything, i am asking how you know even the little you claim to know. You said we cant understand god with our brains but christians know a bit about him and grow in that knowledge. How do christians know the little about him?

Why do you feel the little you know about him is valid based on your tiny brains reasoning while that of freethinkers is invalid based on our same tiny brain.

ilynem:

You say there is more to life. I say there is more to God. If we can fit God in our tiny Brain then He isnt worth worshiping.

How come you not only have fixed him into your tiny brain, you have fixed him into a book with 66 sub books.

You religious people claim to know god, his name, what he said to create the world, the will of god, the name of his son and even his plans for the future. You also claim to know his preferences.

Please how did you fit all that into your tiny brain and how did the miilions and billions of religious people fit all that into their tiny brains and please dont tell me it was revealed.

bravesoul247:

Sometimes I wonder the kind mind una atheist de get, I swear. As in you sleep and wake up without fear that God might just allow the devil take your life. I no wish to get this kind mind even if I be sinner. God have mercy.

if you could think well, you would consider the fact that atheists have existed for aeons and nothing happen to them that doesnt happen to christians or other religious people.

I havent said a prayer in 7 years and am still standing and i get all the journey mercies and so called protection you lot think you have specially

xxxtedyxxx:



haha.... that one medical doctor?

Someone that doesn't understand why a circle is perfect @ 360 degrees wants to be a doctor?

Na em type go give injection for head just to cure headache.


Doctor keh?

Bros because of this guy, if i ever go hospital, i go ask the doctor whether in dey use nairaland and the name of his moniker.

This guy go forget caliper for your belle. The guy is a disgrace

HardMirror:

The number one question is Are there christians at all on Nairaland? . I don't think I have met any.
I know what being a christian is and those here only think because they go to church, they are also christians. If jesus was really going to come back to judge the world, is this how to conduct yourselves? Are there even those who understand what soul winning is? What you clowns are doing here, is that what your soul winning is?
Bunch of jokers

My brother is not just NL

In real life i can count on one hand the christians i know that truly try to live by the standards of christianity.

If you ask most christians about the bible you would find out their minds are blank. How can you claim to believe in God but cant read a book you claim to believe is his word.

The irony of christianity is that no christian is actually a christian.

MZLady39:



Brother,
Ummm.....wow.....wow...
When I tell you that I am shocked yet humbled by your kind words......and was not expecting this....
Forgive me but I'm a little speechless here (which oftentimes doesn't happen with me).
Anyhow, I sincerely say to you "thank you"

You are welcome my dear

MZLady39:
BennyAnn,
Sister..wow! It's been a long time! Glad to know you're alive & well.
Believe it or not, but I've been thinking about you...wondering if you were okay.
Well I got my answer today.
Anyhow, I take it you are young....late teens to maybe mid 20s or so?
I really felt impressed to respond to you after reading your post because you seem like a sincere, kind and Godly young lady who loves her Lord and wants honest answers.
The fate of a Godly young lady.....is to be mated with a Godly young man...(the man God has for you). If you've been praying, God knows...and at the appointed time (if He has called you to be married)...then that man will recognize you as his helper and it will happen. Have faith!
Sister,
I'm gonna be very transparent right now.....brutally honest.
According to Nigeria's standard, I'm an old maid...(all my youth is gone, my eggs rotten, best years gone etc.) since I am single at 39. If I had low self-esteem, I would probably go into a depression from all that I've read on NL in these few months I've been a member
YET in my mind, I know the best is yet to come...be it marriage or singleness! And no one can tell me differently or steal my joy!
"Feelings/emotions" are a state of mind. They, however, can change and are not always reliable. You have to have that unshakeable joy....that peace only Christ can give...about a future relationship.
Part 2 Coming In A Moment

I dont know if this is the right time to say this but i have to tell you that you are a very special, wonderful, beautiful and lovely person. Continue loving yourself and i hope and know that the best in your life is yet to come. Blot out all the negative words typical nigerians throw to you and listen to only statements like mine and the positive things you say to yourself

availableisme:


You seem unable to grasp the fact that I am not he whom you seek but someone who knows about your money laundering and bank account hacking group. Allow the law to run its course. Nairaland is not the law.

Ok since you claim you aint samuel ekwueme, how do you know about the so called hacking group you claim Mr.Blymmer runs?

Why has Naijadeyhia been online and not responded to all these claims, dont you think there is something fishy in his attitude?

chubbyswit:
Lol see all the keyboard cowards jerking off on this thread. At the mention of hell, all of them starts to fidget and foam in the mouth. We must all face judgement for the life we lived here on earth weda u agree or not. Keep wishing away reality.

There is no need to waste time on such a stupid thread talking of a vision someone had. There are 100s of visions people see daily and they are all determined by their belief systems

fasterwell:


I wasn't responsible for the vision neither was i the One who judged him. I am only telling you what i saw. Period!

If u like commit suicide to save the world, u go face judgement

Yea you saw it quite alright

You had a dream or a hallucination, please dont come and elevate your dream to the status of the word of God cause thats what you christards specialize in doing. Nonsense

sirvvy:
The last time i checked the Op asked a question on a BOoK which he claims doesnt make sense, why bother when you have to believe to understand it.

No need to bother about it then

I can also believe in kids fairy tales and it will be true also
Can do the same for Santa claus also

Do you see where your religion is in reality?

Young man Sirvvy,

A matured mind doesnt accept things based on choice but on irrefutable facts. You have chosen to believe while others have chosen to accept the facts that cant be disputed and when they dont find those facts they humbly accept that they dont know ( something religious people have a hard time doing).

sirvvy:
Life is a matter of choice, Jesus didnt force the Good news on people , so if you choose not to believe then you should stop castigating the teachings.

The story of Jesus was written almost 40 years after his death, there are so many variants of the story and over 40 gospels written by anonymous authors. Someone has chosen to reject this story as fact because there is no way to authenticate the veracity of the claims and even the motive and person of the authors, such a person is being rational when he says the story doesnt present the absolute truth of god.

As for you that believe without evidence, please dont put yourself on the same level with that person, you took the easy way out by choosing to fill secure in your mind by accepting a story and elevating it to truth in your mind

lepasharon:


Lol that is his half ukrainian self

Hmm, all these stories are hard to combine.

Kindly give me a summarized narrative of 4evergod and what led to the conclusion that he is a scammer. I remember a thread where he was accused but he happened to explain himself so maybe there are new facts that we i havent heard of.

Thanks in advance

hopefulLandlord:


yes, he's also Dam.ogul, bb.fever, Naija.deyhia etc

How did you guys figure that out ?

I dont understand oh

Is Samuel Ekwueme the same person as 4evergod?

lepasharon:
His stone face is exactly as imagined

Mrbllymer:
dalaman, anas09, decide, felixomor, lepasharon, seun, realmindz, muafrika2, hahn, HardMirror.. Please we'd appreciate any information that can lead to the arrest of this fraudster called 4evergod1/damogul/ naijadeyhia

engineerboat:


You ask me what extraordinary thing God Do everyday, so that you can believe.

try it and make a History of the man that break Gods record.


i put it to you try it lets see, and come back here to comment

Its people like you that makes christians and religious people generally look stupid.

This is the daftest comment i have read in a long while.

Now i have a challenge for you,
hold your breath for 30 minutes and come back and tell me that God exists.
Christard