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Sexual Immorality

12. Someone will say, *I am allowed to do anything.* Yes; but not everything is good for you. I could say that I am allowed to do anything, but I am not going to let anything make me its slave.

13. Someone else will say, *Food is for the stomach, and the stomach is for food.* Yes; but God will put an end to both. The body is not to be used for sexual immorality, but to serve the Lord; and the Lord provides for the body.

14. God raised the Lord from death, and he will also raise us by his power.

15. You know that your bodies are parts of the body of Christ. Shall I take a part of Christ's body and make it part of the body of a prostitute? Impossible!

16. Or perhaps you don't know that the man who joins his body to a prostitute becomes physically one with her? The scripture says quite plainly, *The two will become one body.*

17. But he who joins himself to the Lord becomes spiritually one with him.

18. Avoid immorality. Any other sin a man commits does not affect his body; but the man who is guilty of sexual immorality sins against his own body.

19. Don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and who was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourselves but to God;

20. he bought you for a price. So use your bodies for God's glory.

Maestro21:
Normally, I would not post on such matters because it really does not concern me but I feel compelled to address certain things.

The truth of the matter is your story is laced with half-truths which anyone who is truly seeking the facts can deduce. I have listened to the excerpts of both meetings the OP talked about and nowhere did he insult or denigrate his wife.

I heard him say on several occasions "me and my wife are one - there is no her and me". I also heard him express his faith for his marriage - a faith, those of us who know him know he is still expressing till date.

I also heard him talk about CEC members but not in connection to what you said or how you said it. Being the VP of the ministry still does not absolve one of the respectful duties that is expected of a leader. You cannot give instructions to your MOG because he is your husband - especially when other MOG in the ministry where your leaders before you married him.

God will judge who is right or wrong in the whole issue but to the best of my knowledge Pastor Chris made every attempt to save his marriage. The only thing he said he would not do, is agree to anything that was contrary to the mandate God gave him (which Rev Anita) is very aware of.

In all of this, I looked out for his daughters because their opinions can truly tell what is going on. Especially since they grew up with their mother most of the time, one would have felt they would lean towards her. They did not.

I still pray for Pastor's marriage as we know this whole thing was conspired by the devil to wane him knowing how dear his family is to him. But Pastor would not be deterred; the mandate must be achieved.

There were storms shortly after she left, but the ship has never been more steady today and will only grow from strength to strength because this ministry is being sustained by God almighty.

As for the careless ones who have denied the faith they once professed, insulted the anointing, told barefaced lies and still do. I can only weep in intercession for them because I know their end and it is destruction.

I have seen these things happen so many times. God is using me to beg you to retract these empty vile words you are dispensing as it would cost you your life. If you are hardened by the demons that harden you, I feel for you. But if you are wise enough to harken and listen to that voice from on high that is talking to you now, you would repent and desist from this foolishness.

I rest my case.

hopefulLandlord:
Religious faith is nonsense, illogical and stupid. it deserves to be treated with nothing less than contempt and ridicule . this I do with no apologies

bluefilm:
Call me a reprobate or what you will...

It still doesn't matter to me in any way.

One problem I always have about you believers and funnily enough, it is common with so many believers all over the world, is that you guys have this strong belief or strong feeling that you guys are the ones doing the right thing while the rest of the human population who don't subscribe to your own religion or belief system, are doing the wrong thing and need to be converted.

That's very stupid way of seeing life in reality.

Like the six blind men of hindostan who went to see the elephant, each and everyone of use practicing whatever religion we deem fit, is only guessing.

You may be right in your beliefs. I could also be right in my own beliefs. But you could also be wrong. Likewise me.

But for you to come out to tell me that I am wrong while you are right is totally unacceptable to any discerning mind that can reason properly.

My point is: do your thing make me ma do my own thing.

But don't ever tell me that Your God is better than mine.

Please.

bluefilm:
Of course, that's what religion teaches you guys.

There's always an enemy whether seen or unseen.

But the truth is, I don't just give a damn.

Believe it or not, I used to be very religious in mind and in actions.

But I got to a point where I started asking myself some questions about some of these religious teachings.

Then I started to realize how stupid religion really is.

I started to realize how religion is nothing but a high level well executed mind control techniques where one is subliminally told what to think or believe without the person even realizing how much of a slave he is.

It was at that point that I dissociated myself from all things religion

Right now, I do certain things not necessarily to please any unseen God.

I do things now because morally I consider those things to be either good or bad as my conscience, situation, my life experience coupled with my logical reasoning mind directs.

Having mutual sex with someone just for the purpose of having fun will never be considered a very terrible thing like most of you 'believers' want me to accept.

Unfortunately for you guys, I have graduated from that level.

bluefilm:
I never said sex is the ultimate nor supreme.

My vexation is that some 'believers' will go ahead and quote some biblical portions just to criminalize sex meanwhile God who made sex never designed it to be an experience only meant for 'married' couples.

Why did I say that?

Of course, marriage is a man-made institution.

Criminalizing sexual urges is like telling someone to deny his or her true self just because having sex will make some unseen God to be mad with anger!!!

I don't buy that.

I understand why there are some guidelines towards trying to make people curtail their sexual urges and tendencies.

People are advised to only produce children (through sex, of course) that they can adequately cater for.

Nothing more; nothing less.

That's common sense!

And I totally understand and support that.

But for someone coming out to tell me that if I have sex, it will make some unseen God to send me to hell, I DON'T AND WILL NEVER BUY THAT!!!

To me, it is nothing but total baloney and bollocks!!!

By the way, I just had sex this evening with ONE of my girlfriends.

But since I am not ready to raise up some kids but I only want to have some fun...

I used a condom.

How about that?!

DavidEsq:
Hebrews 12:22 says "u have come unto the mountain". The word "come unto" means "to approach". This is so because at verse 25 it says: "See that you do not refuse to listen to the one who is speaking. For if those who refused to listen to the one giving divine warning on earth did not escape, how much more will we not escape if we turn away from him who speaks from the heavens."
If we are in heaven, why would verse 25 say we are being spoken to "from heaven"? Why would w still need to escape a danger which we are being warned of "from heaven"?
U didn't show me a scripture were the Holy Spirit is making earth heavenly. For who exactly is the Holy Spirit doing this? In Matthew 10:28, Jesus tells us not to be afraid of those who kill the body? If there are those who would and could kill a Christian, is that a heavenly feeling? Would the Christian have a heaven feeling?
Ur distinction between man and beast appears to suggest that man has a superiority over animals but that scripture at Ecclesiastics 3:18 says "they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals". Why are u avoiding this scripture. Do u think dis is a debate of who wins an argument? U don't deliberately avoid a scripture to prove a point.
Saying that king Solomon could not see beyond his natural wisdom is saying the Holy Spirit is blind. This is because 2 Timothy 3:16 says thus: All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness".
Take note of the word "all". That is to say Ecclesiastics 3:18 is inspired of God and not Solomon's natural wisdom as u claim. It would therefore be correct to derive our doctrines and teachings and corrections from that scripture.
Now as for body, spirit and soul which u highlighted, why would God need to resurrect a body if it is the soul or spirit that is needed as u quoted the scriptures that "we who are alive wld be transformed from our bodies"?
Pls do not resort to "the bible is filled with mysteries" reply.