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Uyi Iredia: It has been roundtripped not debunked.

fubbyy: My friend is smoking weed with bible pages in replacement of rezorlar, he has Finished almost all the old testament(he's tearing it from the back) is hE going to get mad? Because that's what they said

Jenwitemi: It is only because of the idiocy of the morons on both sides of the divide that there had to be a court case to begin with. Get it?

ijawkid: Oboy I supprt d poster o..

I had raised a topic like this here on NL...

But people run leave am...

That's why I just gave this lil reply..lol

ijawkid: Na them sabi......

Timmy d 1st: I have always wonder why so called miracle preachers in Nigeria does not go out into the streets to heal and do their miraculous sign or go to the hospitals 2 heal the sick. Men like T.b joshua and chris oyakhilome who claim 2 perform miracles. The bible say Jesus christ went around during his earthly ministries preaching and healing the sick with miraculous sign following. But nowadays no top pastors goes round instead they stage managed miracles in their so called churches. What do you have 2 say about this. You are free 2 blast me. No probs, am only expressing myself.

Jenwitemi: What is pseudoscience and what is "proper" science? Who decides what is what?

My point here is that creation itself and evolution are two sides of the same coin so there is no issue there to debate. Whatever is created, also evolves. Simple. The biblical version of creation does not represent the concept of creation itself.

Only idiots and morons on both sides who can't see outside their narrow perspectives waste all their lives on this foolish debates that are totally unnecessary.

frosbel: Hi Jesoul I suggest you call logicboy , must be a teenager of some sort , to order.

Reason : Derailing of articles for example this one https://www.nairaland.com/964365/last-minute-sin-take-one.

We take no offence when atheists join our discussions for the purpose of enlightenment or disagreement ,but when rudeness, insults and lack of courtesy become the order of the day, the whole purpose of the discussion is defeated.


Thank You.

benodic: @ logicboy



i have proved the existence of God to myself. I do not have to prove it to you because i simply can't. Why? Because the prove of God's existence is a subjective experience. Not an objective one and not one you can do in a scientist lab. God is not a lab rat you can dissect with a surgical blade

benodic: you have only looked at the creation versions of christianity, judaism and islam. So let me fill you up on the ECKANKAR version.

From our point of view evolution is a fact and actually took place over millions of years starting from unicellular organisms and culminating in man. What christians do not know is that the bible story of creation is actually a depicting of evolution.

their confusion arises from the fact that they are looking at the 6 days of creation as if it is equivalent to 6 days of earth time while in reality a cosmic day is more than 5 million years of earth time. So going through the story in genesis with cosmic time in mind you will actually see how evolution weaves through it from plants to animals to man over millions of years of earth time.

and the story of adam and eve of course is an allegory the meaning of which i will not go into here. So evolution is a fact. It is just unfortunate that christian interpreted what was written in genesis literally.

benodic: human suffering is a product of man's inability to learn love. It has nothing to do with God. God has only one will and that is that Soul will grow to maturity and learn how to love and then come back home to It.

benodic: [b]Every action you see on earth today has causes set in past lives that put it in motion. So there is no injustice in the system. Every soul gets its just rewards. W[/b]hat you sow is what you reap. If you do not reap it in a particular life time then you will reincarnate and face the consequences in a later lifetime.
By that time the soul would have forgetting what transpired in a previous lifetime

benodic: the story of the elephant and the 6 blind men best depicts the reality of God and what It is like. Someone who does not even know the make up of his own nature can never have an inkling of what God is like.
Problems usually arise when the person who felt the tail of the elephant and claimed that the elephant is like a snake starts fighting the others who have different claims according to the part of the elephant they touched.

What makes my God real? Is because i have actually had experiences that showed me Its reality. Most people that fight over the issue of God actually have not had this experience. Why do i say so. It is because it is a life changing experience that clears all the doubts and all the arguments away like filthy rags and you will come to realize that we are all one and that there is no need for divisions, prejudices and bias.

You only strive to give back the love you receive from God to others as well.

Martian: It was the way you edited your post at first. It attributed it to you. satisfied? lol



The constitution of the U.S and the judcial sytem has been able to curb the euthusiasm of the religious zealots. Calm down, it will never happen. Google Scopes monkey trial. On the other hand, you should worry about the sharia schools in Northern Nigeria. Alo, when I went to high school in Nigeria, creationism was never taught.Again, chill out.



A contradiction is not a conflict unless one chooses to use one assertion to refute the other.

Contradiction- To assert or express the opposite of a statement
Conflict- mental struggle resulting from incompatible or opposing needs, drives, wishes, or external or internal demands.


An example, a few years ago, Adeboye was named as one of Time's most infuental people and some Nigerian christians were proud and honored. I thought it was appaling that the Nigerian to make the list was a Mystic. In the age of industrialists, inventors and intellectuals, Nigeria's contribution was a man whose expertise are public speaking jewish mythology.F#cking sad.

Anyway, he told a story about how he drove for 300km on a bone dry gas tank. Now this contradicts common sense and scientific knowledde but there is no conflict in my view because his claim is a based on his religious beliefs which I think are lies so there is no need for me to try to reconcile science and religion. The person with the conflict is the member of his church who has to reconcile a natural impossiblity to his belief in the supernatural.



THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN says you can kiss both of our azzes. Pucker up boychik!

401kk: What is a "sin"?

st.okolie:
and how were they made?

Martian: Are you arguing with the voice in your head? I don;t recall anyone saying anything different. And if it's absent, where is the conflict?

Martian: No, I don't view creationism to be nothing but a fancy name for judeo chritian mythology about how the universe and organisms came to be. Evolution is about how living organisms share share a common ancestor and the micro and macro changes that have taken place over millions of years. So to me, there is no contradiction or conflict. One is myth, the other is acquired knoledge. If i want a conflict it will be "Evolution vs The Theogony".

Martian: Religion contradicts science but I don't take religious vie to be valid so there is no conflict.

Martian: You can include anything you want. Just because you are more familiar with the 3 major religions "in Nigeria" doen't mean those are the only ones to consider. Anyway, you forgot to tell me to use my brain.

Martian: How am I wrong when it's obvious that you are forcing it to be so?? You brought up Evolution vs Creationism and used it as an example of the conflict but creationism is absent in scientific circles so the only one with the conflict is you and others who can't separate science from religion.
If you insist that there is a conflict, that means you're acknowledging that creationism and the god it implies are valid scientific concepts.

If you understand evolution and have knowledge of religious doctrines, you should be smart enough not to compare the two. You're also fixated on the three major religions while ignoring other religions that do not regard the judeo christian god as real. Do you think those people have a conflict between Evolution and creationism too or is the conflict exclusive to the people who believe in the jew god?? I'm not sure but I don't think buddhists consider creationism to be nothing but christian stories.

Martian: Lol, may THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN bless your poor heart.You are like a free comedy show.



and this "logic" leads to where exactly?? Color me confused.

Jenwitemi: The "conflict" between the two is bogus. The so-called conflict is artificially manufactured by insidious social engineers to keep idiots on both sides at each other's throat wasting all their entire lives arguing over non-issues like creationism vs evolution.

JeSoul: Hmmm...unless I'm misunderstanding (emofine pls correct if I am) but it doesn't appear that logicboy understood your point here, the simple "I agree" is indicative of that.

Martian: lol, this "foolish" quote of mine is more logical than anything you can ever come up with. My foolishness is better than your "logic".

[b]Martian:
Religion only stands in conflict with science for those who feel religious claims should tally with scientific views. Those are "some" christians and evangelical atheists(enigma must be pleased lmao).[/b]

JeSoul: Martian is doing a good job so I'll just quote him:


And I'll modify it to say "some christians" as I personally don't feel as a christian (and a scientist if I may be allowed to add) any need whatsoever to 'reconcile' science with religion. The two are seperate and distinct disciplines.