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Christianity EtcRe: Science And Religion - A Conflict Or Harmony? by logicboy: 3:05pm On Jun 15, 2012
JeSoul: Solid comments from Martian. I agree there is no conflict.

I will only like to add that the conflict is not only fueled by some christians but also atheists a la Dawkinian style (such as logicboy) who hijack sciencific theories and attempt to use them to comment on religious matters.
Wow. Just wow.

Answer a simple question; If religion is not in conflict in science why is it that schools had to go to court with before they could teach evolution as science and remove creationism from science and other factual classes?
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Religion - A Conflict Or Harmony? by logicboy: 2:48pm On Jun 15, 2012
Martian: There is no conflict!!! It's people like you and the fundamentalist christians who insist on this "conflict". If you say that there is a conflict, that implies that creationism is a possible scientific theory, and we know it's not.


Evolution is a scientific theory like the other extant scientific theories while creationism is nothing but the judeo christian myth that some ould like to call science. Calling their irrationality science is an insult to the scientific process. Sorry if I sounded harsh earlier but you give these christians and their irrationalities too much credence. Call creationism what it truly is, BULLSHIT
Saying that two things conflict does not mean that those two things are from equal categories. Get your logic right. I have never said that creationism is science.

Creationism is a main part of the three major religions. As long as creationism remains central to those religions, then it stands that religion is in conflict with science.
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Religion - A Conflict Or Harmony? by logicboy: 2:33pm On Jun 15, 2012
Martian: Shut up already or go b#tch about slavery. I never said religion was scientific, I said they are not even in the same field.

I guess i should add that there are some atheists (logicBoy) who perpetuate the religion vs science pseudoconflict.
There is a conflict between religion and science in the sense that they have opposing points. Evolution and creationism are opposites.
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Religion - A Conflict Or Harmony? by logicboy: 2:25pm On Jun 15, 2012
Martian: There is no conflict except for the manufactured ones christians concoct. Science is just a process of aquiring knowledge about how the world works. Religion on the other hand is people trying to find purpose in their lives to protect them from the seemingly nihilist nature of reality.

And since religion provides some people with comfort, when science comes across some fact of nature that contradicts their security blanket, they turn on science and present their religious claims as valid despite evidence to the contrary. They are quick to say things like "it's just a theory" when they don't agree with a particuar scientific paradigm but when they don't have a problem with it they ignore the fact that the thing they are agreeing with is also "just a theory".
Wrong. The very nature of religion is unscientific. When you stat talking about the supernatural, you are going out of science into faith
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Religion - A Conflict Or Harmony? by logicboy: 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2012
Religion is in conflict with science.


Science VS Religion

1) Human origin;
-Science; we evolved from other life forms. Theory of evolution
-Religion; God created man. Creationism

2) Disease;
-Science; germs cause diseases. To cure diseases, we need drugs or medicine or anitdotes. Germ theory
-Religion; God heals. God can heal through his prophets or when doctors cure patients, they do the work of God. Faith healing. Disease is a result of sin

3) Supernatural;
-Science; there exists no evidence for the supernatural. The best definition for supernatural is "that which we do not understand".
-Religion; God is supernatural. Supernatural exists
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity; A Religion? A Group? Or What? by logicboy: 2:10pm On Jun 15, 2012
Christianity is a religion. A religion that is has a lot of pagan roots and hypocrisy.


Easter and Christmas were originally pagan festivals. Furthermore, the christians say that people should not worship idols. They forget about their images of Jesus on the cross, their statues and their crucifixes that they wear/keep in teir houses
IslamRe: Maclatunji Please, Respond To This! by logicboy(op): 1:53pm On Jun 15, 2012
maclatunji: ^Honestly, I cannot remember exactly but I believe you insulted Muslims/Islam. If you have contrary opinions, state them if you like but no insults!
Not good enough.
IslamRe: Maclatunji Please, Respond To This! by logicboy(op): 12:27pm On Jun 15, 2012
maclatunji: I really don't like nicknames but what can I do if you call me names as long as they are not offensive?

As for your ban, not giving a reason was an error. I am sorry about that.

On LagosShia, the issue has been addressed on the thread created by Zhul-Fiqar. I will add though that I do not enjoy banning people. If people do not use uncivil language or insults there will be fewer bans.
Agreed.


But I still need to know why you banned me. So at least, I can avoid doing something like that again.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists And Pagans Are On The Wrong Side by logicboy: 12:11pm On Jun 15, 2012
Ayomivic: You have no point my freind. These were the only points you keep hammering on since the time i knew you.
"kill witchies" kill homosexual " are these things good? Do you and your colleagues want to take revenge on God for these ? I see , i know the side you are and whom you are working for.You are FREEDOM FIGHTER. I pity those that are emulating you. And you yourself you are on the wrong side.

The day will soon dawn, you better come to Jesus, come to God. Save your soul. Your pagans hell can not be.
You are very foolish. You do not even realise that your christian religion is a result of paganism. It has pagan origins. Jesus is not the first god to have an immaculate or virgin birth. Easter and christmas are pagan holidays in origin. You have the internet, go and read.


As for the points I raised why did you avoid the parts that said you should kill people that dont listen to priests? Why did you avoid the quote that demeans women? What about slavery in the bible? You cherrypick from the evil in the bible and you know in your conscience that you're a hypocrite.


As for the murder of gays andn witches, how is that okay? How do you prove that someoene is a witch? If someone accused your mother of witchcraft, should we kill your mother? There are millions of gay people in America, you agree that we should kill them for just being gay? Ode.

Notice that the bible is cowardly, telling us to kill people that can not defend themselves; th minorities- the gay minority, the few people that would be accused of witchcraft, the children etc. Where is the death sentence for corrupt priests or politicians?



As for your Jesus, he would rebuke your black azz. Jesus came for only isrealiutes- the lost sheep of isreal. Go and read your bible.
IslamRe: Another Quranic Coincidence?? SubhanAllah! by logicboy: 10:59am On Jun 15, 2012
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists And Pagans Are On The Wrong Side by logicboy: 10:41am On Jun 15, 2012
Ayomivic: ATHEISTS AND PAGAN ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE

Atheists said there is no God or Angel nor Satan.The pagans said they only believe in deities,by this they are worshiping things that God creats such as moon,sun,stars,tree,iron,stone,water to metion the view .They called Christianity white man religion.But the question is could all these group of believers right?If the answer to this question is No,then who is right and who is wrong?

If you ask atheists why do they not believe in God existence,they will bombard you with question from the bible such as,

" if God knew satan will rebel and Adam and Eve would sin why did he creats them" ? If God love us why would he put trillions of people in hell" ?
You are on the wrong side according to all religions apart from christianity. Have you ever thought about that? What if the God that exists is Allah or Odin? Would you not be in muslim or pagan hell?

Christianity/Judaism is not the first or 100th religion in the world.


Furthermore, you should realise that there exists no physical proof for your God.


Your bible has so much evil in it that it eclipses the good that is in it.



Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)


Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)


Kill Homosexuals

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)


Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)


Degrading women;

1 Corinthians 14:34
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.

Slavery

Leviticus 25:44
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.

1 Peter 2:18
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Titus 2:9
"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them"
IslamMaclatunji Please, Respond To This! by logicboy(op):
Maclatunji aka the MAC-daddy, the MACnificent, the MACnanimous, the BIG MAC,


As you can tell from your nicknames, I feel that you're a powerful person. Yes, you have power as a moderator but you are quite strict and heavy-handed when using this power. I dont really care if you're strict as long as you allow me to debunk Islamic threads. Yes, I would be the first to admit that sometimes, I go over the line. However, I have three issues that I feel you have to address.


1) Banning; Why the hell did you ban me without notification? Yes, cleary, I must have done something wrong but isnt it common sense to tell me why I was banned so that I do not repeat whatever offense that I committed? Honestly, I might or might not be innocent but seriously, why did you not give the reason or notify me why I was banned?


2) Shia Muslims; I have no idea what the difference between Shia or Sunni or Wahabi muslims is. However, do you not feel that you're a bit too strict in the sense that LagosShia and another Shia muslim are not happy with you? I dont know what caused this problem with you and those two but did you really have to ban LagosShia? It came as a surprise because LagosShia is one of my main opponents on this section and he defends islam a lot. Maybe you can also explain what happened.



3) Do you mind if I call you "the Big MAC"? I think the name suits your authoritarian personality. Not to be confused with the non-halal burger served at the infidel capitalist restaurant called McDonalds
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by logicboy: 10:30pm On Jun 14, 2012
Miroslav klose: Seun forum owner just gave in to pressure by creating a car discussion forum outside the Auto section.

Im keeping 'faith' the christians that Seun would give them a christian forum
Sharaap
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 10:30pm On Jun 14, 2012
michelin89: @ topic

What is the motivation behind this act?

For the respect of those who believe in that book with their lives, I would think twice before setting a Bible on fire just to pass a message across.
Ehem,
logicboy: Dude read you bible. Your men of God destroyed things that were sacred to people's religion;

2 Ki 18:3-4 (Amp) Hezekiah did right in the sight of the Lord... He broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until then the Israelites had burned incense to it; but he called it Nehushtan [a brazen trifle]


<< Deuteronomy 12:3 >>
Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and burn their Asherah poles in the fire; cut down the idols of their gods and wipe out their names from those places.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Teachers, Come Unfold The Hidden Truth Between Potiphar's Wife And Joseph. by logicboy: 10:03pm On Jun 14, 2012
ijawkid: I don't believe in d common ancestor sh**t bro....

I dnt believe in that.......

Its spurious.....

Demeaning!!!
Ode. How can evolution be spurious when there is evidence for it? Ironically, you believe that God created woman from a man's rib with no evidence whatsoever?


How can evolution be demeaning when we are animals?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 10:01pm On Jun 14, 2012
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 9:58pm On Jun 14, 2012
st.okolie:
how do know?
Because woman was not created from a rib.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Nigeria Morally Better Than U.S? by logicboy(op): 8:11pm On Jun 14, 2012
401kk: Morality has always been based on religion. Where do you think morals come from?
Humans and their interactions with others.


Morality does not come from religion. That is only an illusion. Do you need religion to tell you not to kill people? The Piraha trieb are an atheist tribe which have their own moral code.


Dont be ignorant
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Judas Iscariot's Part In Fulfilling The Prophecy Bad? Did He Deserve It? by logicboy: 7:14pm On Jun 14, 2012
See these foolish christians trying to justify the wickedness of their God.
Christianity EtcRe: Did God Want The Dana Flight To Crash? by logicboy: 7:11pm On Jun 14, 2012
Image123: @thehomer
i am not basing my answers on reason, you should know that by now, except like i suspect you have short memory or demons have been messing with your comprehension. my answers are based on premises greater than reason, the premise of faith in God.
Kai, of all the most stupid comments I have seen on Nairaland, this is by far one of the worst!


Boko Haram can claim the same thing you just wrote.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 7:07pm On Jun 14, 2012
emöfine2:
Hence my response...


Logicboy I’ve read your post more than once and I understand perfectly what you are trying to pose. Burning a bible or any other revered articles of another’s belief system may not be a “sin” depending on the individual but it is insensitive (irrespective of whether it’s a retaliation or in honour of a rival believer’s deity) but you have quite conveniently presented the issue in a context where burning the bible would be most appropriate. Thus it doesn’t fit well with the question since you’ve tailored the motives. Besides endangering the bible will only appreciate its worth.
100% agree!
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 6:29pm On Jun 14, 2012
emöfine2: Logicboy are you seeking to be provocative? The scenario is purposely engineered to compel one to act against perhaps their usual choice...unless you are conveying that the motives should be the real measuring factor.
I think the question is questionable and I have no business in burning any book when I can instead opt to resell them ...I sure won’t be burning my 19th century antique bible...that I know grin
Read my post again. I am not one for burning books. I am just asking a controversial question.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 6:28pm On Jun 14, 2012
buzugee: let me tell you a funny story. LOL. this guy i went to high school with was the craziest dude you could ever encounter. at age 11 he was already smoking ciggarettes and pawpaw leaves. he was wild. i used to look at the like he was some insane guy. he used the bible pages to wipe his a-ss in the bushes after taking a shyttt. he said something about the pages of the bible being nice and soft enough to pass as tissue paper. he also used to roll joints ( weed ) up with bible paper. something about the bible paper being the best roller and whatnot. This guy was the most insane guy you ever met. i believe he used to cuss God out and was vehemently anti-God back then, and all this time we were just 11 years old. and we were in this boarding school till the age of 16. anyway i jammed the guy on facebook like 2 years ago. what do you know ? this guy is the most dedicated and most committed born again you ever saw grin grin grin grin on his facebook page if you aint talking about the lord he aint dealing. he staunch. what a life right ?

that story kinda reminded me of burning the bible. this guy used to desecrate the bible for smoking and wiping his crusty butt LOL
Cool story. But I have never burnt a bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Must I Praise God? by logicboy: 4:33pm On Jun 14, 2012
cyrexx: Has anybody wondered why does god need humans to lift him higher and to tell him he is great every time.
is he emotionally insecure?
why does he need praises?
why.
I also wonder.


God is schizophrenic
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Burn A Bible? by logicboy(op): 4:27pm On Jun 14, 2012
ad245: @logicboy, common sense will tell u not to destroy what another man count as sacred...what makes you different from vampires and boko haram? dude, you're an extremist!
Dude read you bible. Your men of God destroyed things that were sacred to people's religion;

2 Ki 18:3-4 (Amp) Hezekiah did right in the sight of the Lord... He broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until then the Israelites had burned incense to it; but he called it Nehushtan [a brazen trifle]


<< Deuteronomy 12:3 >>
Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and burn their Asherah poles in the fire; cut down the idols of their gods and wipe out their names from those places.
Christianity EtcRe: The New Age And Evolution by logicboy: 2:25pm On Jun 14, 2012
Nonsense creationist propaganda
Christianity EtcRe: The DANA Tragedy And A Sober Reflection by logicboy: 1:52pm On Jun 14, 2012
Fr0sbel: After the DANA air crash which deeply affected me for at least a week, I began to think of the consequences of rejecting the mercies and grace of God in this life and what to expect in the afterlife.


Today as we speak , some loud mouth atheist died, some Christian hypocrite died, some Radical Islamist died, some child died, some Good Christian died, but one thing is certain, in most cases they were not expecting it, they had plans for tomorrow , for next week for next month or even the next 5 years.

Gentlemen and Ladies my point is this, the passengers in the DANA plane had no one clue that it was their last day, they were 5 miles from the Lagos airport, they were most likely strapped to their seats ready for landing procedure, the air hostesses were taking all the trays of snacks away and everyone was looking forward to seeing their families.

Alas it was not to be, within minutes they were dead. Among them were Christians ( who hopefully prayed for those on board ) , atheists, Muslims. I really fear to think of where they are now , it scares me.
Ironic that you cant see your own bigotry/bias. You only gave a positive stereotype to the christian (good christian). The others were "loud mouth atheist" or "radical muslim". Are there no good muslims or atheists in your own mind?

As for the sober reflection, you only got one life, enjoy it. There is no reason to believe in heaven or hell as there exists no proof for them.

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