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Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 2:04pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:

I am sorry , but many of the great scientists, the forerunners of today's technology were ardent believers in God - Fact !!!

See below for a few names.

Science is man's commendable but mostly futile effort to understand the wonders of God's creation !!

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs. The three biggest names in IT. However, none of them believe in your God

Epic fail, frosbel.
Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 2:02pm On Jun 10, 2012
italo: @ logicboy, sometimes I feel sorry for you. The kind of confusion that must be going on in your head. i wish you had the kind of certainty that i have. Cheers

I pity you. Jumping on the white European Jesus that the catholics have created for you. Tell me, how does it feel to believe 100% of a church that supported the slavery of your ancestors or a church that covers up p.edophile priests?
Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 2:00pm On Jun 10, 2012
mimibets: Just because a part is false doesn't make the whole false. Not everyone that comes in the name of God is of God.

Sorry, if the whole claims to be wholly true, then a part should not be false.


Many of God's first prophets in the bible were scandalous. Polygamy, incest, murder.
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 1:57pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:

For you info , I am an IT professional and actually see technology as a good thing.

A good thing despite the hindrance of christianity
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 1:56pm On Jun 10, 2012
kaiye007: @logic boy... U ARE ID..IOT!!


You mad?


[img]http://chrisdevoss.files./2012/04/angry4.jpg[/img]
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 1:53pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:

In your case, they did not beat you enough, honestly you badly needed it, see how you have turned out grin grin grin

And what is bad about me?

Keep judging without proof.


Instead of you to be quiet after I just caught your pal on the foolish assumptions, you continue your fake judgement without shame
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 1:50pm On Jun 10, 2012
@ Frosbel, the debate is over. You have tortured fact and evidence to support your anti-atheist propaganda.

1) You are now arguing that the UK census, BBC surveys and Yougov surveys which show that belief in God is large in the UK and non-attendance in churches is the norm are all unreliable. This is shameful. Where is your reliable data? Your own opinion is more reliable than these organisations?


2) You are proud of your ignorance


Yes I am ignorant in your opinion, but I actually relish this so called ignorance as it gives me a sense of purpose in this life

I hope you realise that anyone (even non-christians) can find purpose in life which makes your religion/ignorance really worthless or cheap.


3) The bible encourages bigotry against atheists and you support it? You follow in saying that people that say that there is no god are fools. Dont you feel wrong?

The very fact that you are using Bill Gates's technology shows that you're acknowledging that someone who deosnt believe in the existence of the christian God is not a fool?
Religion / Re: Paul, A Confused Man, Very Illogical... by logicboy: 1:37pm On Jun 10, 2012
ijawkid:

Paul is not d issue..........



D translators of the various bible renditions are d problem.....

The church Fathers tampered with so many texts just to suit there thoughts and it has thus led to misconceptions and confusion.....

Imagine even when parts of d latin vulgate are incoperated into d original scriptures....

Madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yet, you claim that you're more christian than the catholics.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 1:36pm On Jun 10, 2012
Mr_Anony:

Lol logicboy, I see you've made new friends. Don't you just love it when our threads go public?
Now to add my own silliness to the mix.
Logicboy, did your parents ever beat you? If they did, they are sick, did you. ever complain about the beating? If you did you are sick. In fact anyone who objects or supports child beating by calling it abuse or discipline or whatever is sick! WE ARE ALL SICK!..........Is everyone happy now? LoL grin


You foolishly assume 3 things

1) I lived with my parents

2) That my parents/guardian beat me. Or choked me, in Creflo's case.

3) That all Nigerian parents beat their children.

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Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 1:33pm On Jun 10, 2012
mimibets: He that stands for nothing can fall for anything.

Really? Is that the reason why pastors are being exposed scandal after scandal?

Just because something is a popular quote, it doesnt mean it is true!
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 1:29pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel: First off, the phrase 'third world' is a misnomer, stop taking everything the white man says as fact.

Secondly I live in the UK and I love my Queen

Lol....you live in the UK and fail to realise that it is a secular country? You also fail to know that it's population is about 20% atheist?

I live in the uk also but I am indifferent to the royal family. I am just neutral. I dont worship people like you. You have more reason to dislike the royal family as a Nigerian. However, as a non-hater, I remain neutral.

frosbel:
30 million atheists in America (10-15%) and still growing. 20% of the population in the UK. 64% in Japan.

Fa Fa Foul !! The figures quoted above are based on myth.

I once believed in this myth. A large majority , I dare say up to 95% of the English might believe in God and only stay away from church because of the mess that has been created by the American prosperity movement and catholic church , together with a sense of self-sufficiency , hence no need for God in their arrogance.

When you talk to these people , many , and I mean many more than you mind can grasp , believe in a GOD who exists !!

Why are you lying about belief in God in the UK? I live in the UK and by both personal experience and statistics, the 95% that you claim that believe in God is a lie + exaggeration.

Unlike you, I can back up my facts;

The UK 2001 census puts the cateogry that put no religion/no answer as 22% of the population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_Kingdom#Statistics


Tearfund Survey in 2007 found that only 7% of the population considered themselves as practising Christians. Ten per cent attend church weekly and two-thirds had not gone to church in the past year.[37][40] The Tearfund Survey also found that two thirds of UK adults (66%) or 32.2 million people have no connection with the Church at present (nor with another religion). These people were evenly divided between those who have been in the past but have since left (16 million) and those who have never been in their lives (16.2 million).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_Kingdom#Attendance


A poll in 2004 by the BBC put the number of people who do not believe in a God at 39%
,[27] while a YouGov poll in the same year put the percentage of non-believers at 35% with 21% answering "Don't Know".[28] In the YouGov poll men were less likely to believe in a god than women, 39% of men as opposed to 49% of women, and younger people were less likely to believe in a god than older people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#United_Kingdom


Ignorance drives christianity and people like you. Keep ignoring evidence.

frosbel:
Furthermore, you call muslims our brothers. They have more in common with you; belief in God and prophets and sacred books.


You have one thing in common, you both gang up on we 'poor' Christians


Poor christians? Did you not just label all atheists as fools in your previous comments? Then you play the victim? What about crusades, inquisitions or the fact that you will be ostracized if you're an atheist in Nigeria?

frosbel:
Hence we have verses in the bible , going back thousands of years to address this phenomena , such as " the fool says in his heart there is no GOD ".

Atheism has always been viewed as foolishness for thousands of years and will still be come 2038 - Fact !

How can you play the victim and say that atheists disturb yo after the above comment? Hypocrite



frosbel:
You are a hypocrite Frosbel. How many threads have you opened that are just christian propaganda?

Are they ?

Ignore then, right ?

I ignore most of your threads.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:59pm On Jun 10, 2012
Calebsy07: @ Logicboy, u are supporting western children forgetting that if Nigeria child is been giving the same opportunity wit them, he will perform beta than them, with Nigeria crude teaching aids, they are still competing wit them. The issue here is, wouldnt a father discipline his child for wrong doing, u can say Dollar went to the extreme but not justifying his daughter act. For crying loud, what will pastor daughter be doing in a party, her dad should beat her more. The bible say. Discipline ur child and he will give u rest and that is what pastor Dollar is doing. Thumb up pastor.



1) We are not competing with the wet, we are losing. Our children do not learn evolution or their own history about slavery. Our children do not grow to become CEO's of multiantional companies or rocket scientists


2)A father can discipline the child in a million ways without choking the child

3) Your pastor is in police custody. Be praising him like a sheep.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:54pm On Jun 10, 2012
cryptic:

You are sick bro...REALLY SICK.


Wait? So, the pastors that beat, abuse and molest children are not sick but logic boy complaining about the abuse is sick?
Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 12:48pm On Jun 10, 2012
tpia@:
Thread needs to be moved to tv section. Doesnt matter if the poster is afraid to go there.


What is your problem?


This thread is about religion. Religious themes in a movie.

Three quarters of this thread is about islam, christianity, mythology and atheism.

Dont be a fool
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:45pm On Jun 10, 2012
valencia25:

And you think a Pastor will want to Choke his very own daughter to Death

Why not? We have seen priests molesting children and pastors slapping young girls.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:42pm On Jun 10, 2012
chioma134:
If you had looked closely,you would have seen that that statement was meant for the Christians. I'm sure you're not one.


Does it change the point of the message? You are still sick.


There is no difference between you and a catholic bishop that wants to cover up for a p.edophile priest.
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 12:39pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:


But where are these zillions of followers of atheism that you keep talking about, I have met but a few.

Just because a small minority make a lot of noise does not mean they are beginning to win this universal argument.


Besides no one is obssessed with you guys, trust me .

[b]What we find rather strange is how you guys , just like your muslim brothers, cannot leave us in peace to get on with our 'foolishness', why does what we believe in bother you so muc[/b]h


You ask where are these atheists? I am assuming that you live in a third world country or muslim country to ask that ignorant question.

30 million atheists in America (10-15%) and still growing. 20% of the population in the UK. 64% in Japan.



Furthermore, you call muslims our brothers. They have more in common with you; belief in God and prophets and sacred books.


Also, why are christians hypocrites? They go about evangelizing and preaching about their religion more than any other religion, yet they complain when atheists debunk them on the internet that atheists are militant evangelists. Christians go form door to door preaching, the preach on TV, preach with loudspeakers on streets and preach on the internet. However, they still have the nerve to say that atheists are obsessed with them. Isnt ir part of the christian doctrine to preach to unbelievers and spread the word.


You are a hypocrite Frosbel. How many threads have you opened that are just christian propaganda?
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:29pm On Jun 10, 2012
chioma134: Leave the man of God alone. None of you were not there,and you don't know what transpired. This is a family affair,and should remain such. Remove the log from your own eyes before you try to remove the speck from another's eyes. For the christians,let family matters remain within the family(in this case,the church). Even if you don't support the man of God's actions,don't allow the enemies of God to use this opportunity to blaspheme God,and don't be part of it by openly criticizing him. Everyone will receive his reward on the last day,so do not judge.May God bless you all. Shalom.


We should not openly criticize a child abuser because he is "man of God"?


You people are sick.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:25pm On Jun 10, 2012
moshoodn:

SHOULD WE SPANK HIM FOR BEING SO ILLOGICAL ??

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST IGNORE HIM.


Yes, religion teaches you to be physically abusive.
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 12:24pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:


Just a Sunday joke grin

Anyway for your info, atheists have existed for eons , in fact it was more pronounced at the time because there were no distractions in the form of TV ,Internet , Radio etc . People , referred to as wise men, traveled beyond their natural boundaries around the existing the world, discussing on matters such as gods, GOD, the universe, origin of man, science etc .

Hence we have verses in the bible , going back thousands of years to address this phenomena , such as " the fool says in his heart there is no GOD ".

Atheism has always been viewed as foolishness for thousands of years and will still be come 2038 - Fact !


Atheism is based on logic and common sense which were forbidden to apply to the bible/koran/talmud for thousands of years. However, when science (evolution, germ theory,cosmology, internet), freedom of speech and separation of church came about properly in the 19th century, atheism experienced a serious growth.


Going back before the 19th century is quite deceitful because, you're ignoring the current factors that led and still leads to the exponential growth of atheism.

Atheism started a long time ago, no doubt. But we all have to look at the bigger picture
Religion / Re: Why Can't I Praise My God In This Section? by logicboy: 12:13pm On Jun 10, 2012
ZUBY77: Relax bro... You are way more smarter than these people. The mod probably believe that she has sinned by allowing that amadioha praising for over a minute even without knowing that it was there. She is probably scampering in front of a rev father now, confessing to him that the devil lead her to see a sin posted on a section under her control.. Buncha confused hypos

epic comment
Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 12:11pm On Jun 10, 2012
Kay 17:

The Book of Eli is one of my fav movies. Lovely and thoughtful yet action packed.


The book of Eli shows that the bible is a dangerous tool. Do you wonder why the criminal boss wanted it?
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 12:07pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel:

What is happening to you these days logicboy , which one is Childrena



Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 12:05pm On Jun 10, 2012
stanbiggi: i dont blame the artheist, we christains are the cause because we highly crave (lust) for earthly things highly.. Not to worry it was prophecied but ll not succeed


Prophecied by who exactly?

You probably havent seen the flaws of the bible in the first place.
Religion / Re: Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038 by logicboy: 12:04pm On Jun 10, 2012
frosbel: They have not done it for over 6 thousand years, and will now achieve this feat in 25 years grin

If you chaps are so adamant to our religious views, why don't you just practice your atheism and we practice our religion until it dies out in 2038, lol.

But just to help you a little with the facts, Christianity is expanding in Asia, the Middle east, Africa and Eastern Europe - fact !!

In the west and America in particular,I see a near future revival to the real brand of the gospel, mark my word.

Keep dreaming , dreamer grin




There wasnt the access to internet that people have now in those days. So much info about christianity has come out and it is not good. Your pastors are having scandals from left to right. Childrena are getting abused in churches. The bible's flaws are all over the internet.

Use your brain.
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 12:01pm On Jun 10, 2012
aneldaking:



displacd fooooool tell dat to ur quranic mallams caphirin banza


I am not a muslim. However, an extemist like you wouldnt care as long as I am not christian
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 11:58am On Jun 10, 2012
stagger:

Another fool talking. So if your 15-year old daughter who has been doing poorly in school decides to go to a party at that unholy hour of the night, you will just let it pass as if everything is all right?

I am not sure you are a father, because no sane father will allow such riotous behaviour in his household.


My 15 year old daughter would not think of going clubbing in the first place.

Even if she did,I would tell her that she would be grounded and should not comeback.


For her to even think of clubbing, she must have had a fake ID. Where would she get money and time to have a fake ID?


Creflo's daughter was probably spoilt rotten
Religion / Re: Creflo Dollar Arrested For Choking His Daughter by logicboy: 11:49am On Jun 10, 2012
finallytalking:
Hey bro, that is not a typo, you added an extra alphabet to the word 'rocket', check your keyboard, letters 'a' 'o' and 'c' are far apart. Like someone asked, i hope you are not a product of the western educational system you speak so highly of?


How foolish of you.

1) Please,go and learn the meaning of "typographical error"

2) You really think that with all the English I typed, I can not spell "rocket"?

3) If you had any sense, you would realise that a human being has 10 fingers and any can slip on a keyboard. My little finger hovers between "Q" and "A"


I really pity you. Ignorance is bad
Religion / Re: Import Your Gods, Import Your Goods [and Services] by logicboy: 7:20am On Jun 10, 2012
jantavanta:

Marcus Garvey tried to solve the problem of Black People focusing on a White Jesus
by giving African-Americans a Black Jesus. It had a phenomenal success.

Cool
Religion / Re: Hive Psychology And The Origins Of Morality And Religion? by logicboy: 7:19am On Jun 10, 2012
Pastor AIO:

Thank you, Logicboy, for the appreciation. What evidences have you, though, that human beings are evolving away from religion. Is this evolution genetic, or is it cultural?


As nations get developed and people get smarter, they stop believing in religion. It is not genetic or cultural. There is hardly any developed and free country that is not secular.

Top 10 developed countries in the world have a properly established separation of church and state. Google the human devlopment index. Norway tops the bunch, followed by Australia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#Inequality-adjusted_HDI_2

Pick the smartest people from any country in this present day and you would see that there are many atheists among them. The first person that comes to mind is Wole Soyinka of Nigeria. Soyinka is the first person that comes to your mind when thinking of smart Nigerians.While this can be written off as a coincidence, we can look at scientists in the West who are generally more atheistic than the general population. This of course, is assuming that scientists are smarter than the general public. http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Scientists_and_atheism

Where does our technology come from (Toyota, Smasung, Sharp, Honda, LG, Apple, Microsoft)? Atheistic societies i.e. scientists, Japan, South Korea, China. USA is also a bedrock of technology but it's population is majorly religious which betrays its secular laws and the atheistic nature of it's scientists. Furthermore, religion is in the decline in America.


This is not to say that all atheists are smarter than religious people. This is my attempt at explaining studies that show a correlation or link between irreligiosity/atheism to intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
Religion / Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by logicboy: 10:36pm On Jun 09, 2012
Logic Mind: When Abram became hungry, he asked his wife to pretend she was his sister so other men would sleep with her and he would blackmail them.
This happenned in Genesis 12: 9-20 and again in Genesis 20: 1-16

He taught his son Isaac this trick and he used it well in Genesis 26: 7-16.


This is the foolish thing about the bible. Sarah was already Abraham's sister. Half sister to be exact
Religion / Re: Prometheus Has Probably Converted Me!!! by logicboy: 8:14pm On Jun 09, 2012
mimibets: For want of what to believe in!

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