₦airaland Forum

PAGAN 9JA:
Wrong. The Chiefs being intimate bit is very rare and occurs only in some isolated cases. immoral nonetheless, but there are very few Chiefs to start with and majority are not like that.

Polygamy, mostly in northern areas. yet i have noticed that very few actually do it. also the USA has plygamy (have ou heard of those mormon christian men having 100 wives)

Child Labour is not a moral issue. it is more of a poverty issue. they have no choice or else they go hungry and die.

also as i mentioned, i was not referring to the governing bodies. I was referring to the common man, especially the villagers who are very simple and constitute the majority of Nigerian populace.

Overall morality, i would say that Nigeria fares better, though i cannot say anything about the long term.

LagosShia: how did i give him power to operate? i dont remember giving him power.sanity in the islam section or on any forum does not mean we should oppress the views of others however opposing and critical so far as they are made with no insult or vulgar language.

PAGAN 9JA:
i believe it is. not everything is bad about this nation. The USA has no morals at all.

uhonmora: because much of the old and new testaments were primarily concerned with the jewish people, not until the gospel was taken to the gentile nations.

phreakabit: Quit being sarcastic about it. You were the one who suggested that every Nigerian(Nigerian based)child was not only corrupt, but poorly educated as well. I however found it quite ironic that on the very same post, you spelt a common word like rocket wrongly.

Moral of the story is : If you have to throw something, don't throw a boomerang.

LagosShia: exercising just a little logic would do you good.

is Maclatunji following Islam or his bias and sentiments? please stop generalizing here.there are solutions to identifiable problems.so why take advantage of the sad situation to label people and generalize? that is not fair either.

Ayomivic: I don't know about Lesus but i know Jesus is correct and Hebrew pronounced it to be Yesua, Muslim called him Issah. In my language we pronounced it to be Jesu.So with one you call him the important thing is do you know him? does he know you ? If you know him use any name you know him to be. Demons and evils spirit will bow .

To you, is Jesu a correct pronoucation? No. But my people is using it to fire devils.Come ,come and have a taste of that sweet name JESUS, JESU,YEHSUA it work than charms or juju.

phreakabit: Yes! "ALL" children raised in Nigeria aren't properly educated but. . . . .https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/206/226/whatthehell.png?1322097337

JeSoul: ^No. I would prefer you all behaved yourselves like adults instead.

JeSoul: Odunnu, you raised some good points for thought, and as you said, much of it is out of the hands of the mods. The religion section is not the christian section and as such, we all have to learn to play nice together.

Personally, I think a lot of this is a tempest in a teacup. Atheists have been in this section since I've been on NL, its only a recent influx of maybe 4-5 heavy handed posters that open countless threads that make it seem like the section has been run over. I've seen many seasons in the section, so I'm far less concerned. We don't need a new section, maybe Missy's suggestion is within order:


That can certainly be done...at the risk of posters crying 'censorship' and 'intolerance' etc etc. Its really a catch 22. But if that's what the admin says we do, then it shall be done.

Cheers my sisters.

omo_to_dun: And how have those eficos contributed to the development of Nigeria?

Myself2: What's ROACKET scientist?? does it have anything to do with ROACHES

Dumb Nigga really doesnt know what's going down with Nigerian eficos worldwide

frosbel: Logicboy , are you still thanking [b]God [/b]that you are not an atheist as you mentioned recently, haha

yony banta: . I agree with u, their law gives them so much freedom such d@ parenting is of no effect & if the child become wayward the pple wil say she is daughta of pastor.

poweredcom: Tell us other way mr councellor this logicboy you are onpoint on ur arguiement on nairaland always I am ur fan but today you fall my hand you praise westerners too much too

Ok so the pastor should start begging her blood around 1 am pls pls and what if the. Case she talks anyhow to him and that grew annoyed. You see she should have not called the cop if she knew whose personality her dad is stupid girl if na naija dem go leave am make she waka for 1 am na body go tell am . She don turn pros be dat na because if she see tins she never taste before she go wan start to go clubbin and join bad gurls in atl .
Remember atlanta is a big city full of bad clubs.

mimibets: Many laws in the bible were enforced at the time that particular book was written,some laws of the old testament were not applicable in the new testament,same way some laws aren't applicable now. Lot of people ask why there is so much suffering in the world when there is God,there are may reasons for this.One reason is that God is not the ruler of this world,He might have created it but the devil rules the world,how would he have offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he did not own them? Secondly,the devil has deceived people and turned them from God.People are aware of God's existence but still don't acknowledge Him,He won't force u coz He gives us free will.A barber when asked why God does not do anything about suffering likened it to people walking about with bushy hair even when he declared free hair cuts,not because they don't know the way to his shop but because they have refused to have a hair cut.Same way people die from curable diseases when they could have reached out to a knowledgable person or a doctor.

poweredcom: You must be stupid for this statement why do you generalize peoplenow tell me how does a nigerian kid perform in school here and both in europe and usa perfect. Its just that we live in a country leaded by visionless people

As for creflo and his daughter I support him to discipline her you see we humans are not perfect and I am sure creflo is not a bad man to strangle his blood maybe the girls is turning into something else or the kind of party she wants to attend her father don't like it

*Atlanta georgia is a place full of strip clubs and wild party I have seen a porn star who says her father is a preacher infact not one but many

Now ask yourself if you see your girl behaving wayward just because she don dey get breast won't you do tje right thing unless she go just get belle hahaa

Ayomivic: There is power in that name.It is a name that demons and evil spirit fear.

This name is not work in the mouth of everybody, only in the mouth of the people who know whom Jesus is.Your friend and other people can bear such name but there is a big diffrent between the fake Jesus and the real and orginal Jesus that we are talking about. If you called your Jesus friend didn't you have in mind the image of whom you are calling? Likewise if you call real Jesus you must know who you are calling. So, the name of Jesus may be useless in your mouth if you don't know him.Remember what happened to the people that Jesus did not know but wanted to cast out demon by the name of Jesus in Act of Apostles 19 : 14-16 but the evil spirit said to them Jesus i know, Paul i know but who are you? The name of Jesus was not only useless in their mouth, the evil spirit also wounded them. By this name peter and paul perform many miracles

If the name of Jesus is ordinary name in your mouth, that shows you don't know Jesus and evil spirit can not respect or fear anything from you.You better come to Jesus now.His name save, heal and pro ect .He know his sheeps and his sheeps knows him.

Atheism To Defeat Religion By 2038
Countries with the best standard of living are turning atheist. That shift offers a glimpse into the world's future.

Religious people are annoyed by claims that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

The view that religious belief will give way to atheism is known as the secularization thesis. The specific version that I favor (1) is known as the existential security hypothesis. The basic idea is that as people become more affluent, they are less worried about lacking for basic necessities, or dying early from violence or disease. In other words they are secure in their own existence. They do not feel the need to appeal to supernatural entities to calm their fears and insecurities.

The notion that improving living conditions are associated with a decline in religion is supported by a mountain of evidence (1,2,3).

That does not prevent some serious scholars, like political scientist Eric Kaufmann (4), from making the opposite case that religious fundamentalists will outbreed the rest of us. Yet, noisy as they can be, such groups are tiny minorities of the global population and they will become even more marginalized as global prosperity increases and standards of living improve.

Moreover, as religious fundamentalists become economically integrated, young women go to work and produce smaller families, as is currently happening for Utah's Mormons.

The most obvious approach to estimating when the world will switch over to being majority atheist is based on economic growth. This is logical because economic development is the key factor responsible for secularization. In deriving this estimate, I used the nine most godless countries as my touchstone (excluding Estonia as a formerly communist country).

The countries were Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Japan, Netherlands, Sweden and the United Kingdom. These nine countries averaged out at the atheist transition in 2004 (5) with exactly half of the populations disbelieving in God. Their gross domestic product (GDP) averaged $29,822 compared to $10,855 for the average country in the world. How long will it take before the world economy has expanded sufficiently that the GDP of the average country has caught up to the average for the godless countries in 2004?

Using the average global growth rate of GDP for the past 30 years of 3.33 percent (based on International Monetary Fund data from their website), the atheist transition would occur in 2035.

Belief in God is not the only relevant measure of religion, of course. A person might believe in God in a fairly superficial way without religion affecting his or her daily life. One way of assessing the depth of religious commitment is to ask survey participants whether they think that religion is important in their daily lives as the Gallup Organization has done in worldwide nationally representative surveys.

If fewer than 50 percent of the population agreed that religion was important to them, then the country has effectively crossed over to a secular majority. The godless countries by religiosity were Spain, South Korea, Canada, Switzerland, Uruguay, Germany and France. At a growth rate of 3.33 percent per year it would be 2041 before the average country in the world would be at an equivalent level of affluence as these godless nations.

If national wealth drives secularization, the global population will cross an atheist threshold where the majority see religion as unimportant by 2041.

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

Is the loss of religious belief something fear? Contrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement (5). We could do with some of that.

Sources
1. Barber, N. (2012). Why atheism will replace religion: The triumph of earthly pleasures over pie in the sky. E-book, available at: http://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Will-Replace-Religion-ebook/dp/B00886ZSJ6/
2. Norris, P., & Inglehart, R. (2004). Sacred and secular: Religion and politics worldwide. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
3. Barber, N. (2011). A Cross-National test of the uncertainty hypothesis of religious belief Cross-Cultural Research, 45, 318-333.
4. Kaufmann, E. (2010). Shall the religious inherit the earth? London: Profile books.
5. Zuckerman, P. (2008 ). Society without God: What the least religious nations can tell us about contentment. New York: New York University Press.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

OlowoTee: No, being a mere Church goer must have affected your growth. mind you: You aren't a Christian because you go to church, however it is because of your regenerated lifestyle...having received the grace from God to live a Christ-like life. My dear, you need to RETRACE your step to back God!...Jesus loves you.

PAGAN 9JA:
ok christians, lets say we take your childish stories seriously, then why is it that our so called ancestors: Noah, Ham, Shem, Japheth, etc., had Jewish names. why not Indian, African, Chinese, Japanese, Native American, etc.., names why all this rascist ideology so are you saying that Japanese are descended from a bunch of brainless lazy ethiopians By the Gods, WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT

stagger: I recall an episode when I was still working for a boss 10 years ago. He had very important visitors who came for a business meeting. My boss's 7 year old son happened to be in the premises at the time. He got hold of the key to the conference room, locked us all inside and misplaced the key.

Words cannot describe the embarrassment we felt in that place. As the door was finally broken open, the head of the delegation berated my boss publicly.

"My friend, you are a successful man, but you have failed as a father. You have obviously allowed your children to become wayward, and this is a shame. I would advise you, if you cannot train your own children, send them over to me for a month and I will straighten them out for you. But let me tell you, you have a big problem on your hands".

I cannot forget those words ever, said in public to the hearing of everybody by the head of the delegation to my boss, who was speechless.

It is better to curtail the excesses of your children in the privacy of your own home than to have yourself publicly disgraced.

It is very obvious that Creflo Dollar is trying to enforce things he should have done years back. For a daughter to challenge her father's authority and even call the police on him after discipline (extreme or not) is something that is inconceivable in a proper household.

mimibets: Abraham marrying sarah,what was the world's population at the time? Nearly everyone was related.About the rest,if u read lower,they were reprimanded by GOD and were remorseful and forgiven.The bible is the one book that has stood the test of time,the most read book.There will surely be conspiracy theories but if u realize wat this theories are for u'll hold on fast to the promises of God.At this time when the world is falling apart,it gives me strength to know that i have a greater force that is on my side.

frosbel: That is what they told you 'ol chap.

frosbel: Without the forerunners of technology , your idols such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs will be nothing - fact !!

Funny how they can take concepts established by men who believed in God and turn it into a success while shunning the God these great scientists believed in.

logicboy , please let us agree on some logic here !!

frosbel: But , but .... Catholics are not .......

mimibets: Have u ever thought about the part not being truly part of the whole but infiltrates the whole to give it a black name? The bible says in the last days,false prophet will arise for the sole purpose of leading men astray. Why do u look to the wrong for inspiration?in the same bible there were men of faith,men that lived lives worthy of emulate,why don't u look to those?