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Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 7:39am On Jul 16, 2014

ebsuguy: Thanks alot chief....emmmm....heard of something Mac loeid or so...what about it?...and also this text(see attachment)...what about it?

Yeah

Hutchinson and Mccleoid. Good for physical examination.

I highlighted 2 books in my post

R Alagappan and SRB's Cinical Methods in Surgery. Those are the one I use in lieu of Hutchinson. I still have Hutchinson, nonetheless.(use it once in a while)

My colleagues use Hutchinson. Some Macleoid. You should get either of them. Anyone would do.

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Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 9:24pm On Jul 15, 2014

ebsuguy: Sir Lomax pls o your help is needed on textbooks to acquire,how to study,which is best to begin with etcetera

So you're about to begin your clinical years. First thing I would tell you is that life would never be the same again. Clinicals is a different ball game entirely, but the same principles apply. Whatever formula that has been helping you, apply same here.

In clinicals, there is a whole lot to learn in a micrscopically short period of time. The strategy here is to learn as much as you can when you can. Don't wait for special moments- you may never have them.

Beginning from the first clinical year you'll have : Pathology, and Pharmacology.

Pathology is subdivided into Histopathology, Haematology, Medical Microbiology and Chemical Pathology.

For Pathology, many people will tell you they used Robbins and Cortan Pathologic Basis of Disease. Well, I stopped using it after my first test in Pathology because I found other greener pastures.

1) Concise Pathology by Para Chandrasoma, and Clive Roy Taylor(best textbook ever). It was carefully remixed with:

2) Pathology Secrets ( adapted from Robbins and Cortran Pathologic Basis of Disease); and

3) Lecture Notes from http://www.pathguy.com (best for MCQs)

-Hematology:
I used
1) Hoffbrand Hematology and
2) Zako's Hematology Notes (Just Google it and it will take you to the link). Perfect for brushing up stuff.

Medical Microbiology

There's a lot of stuff on Medical Microbiology. I used:

1) Jawetz, Melnick, & Adelberg's Medical Microbiology

2) Medscape (online stuff).

Chemical Pathology. A lot of people used Martin Crook Clinical Chemistry and Metabolic Medicine. Never used that. Mine was:

1) A Primer of Chemical Pathology Evelyn S. C. Koay, Robert Noel Walmsley. Carefully remixed with

2) Medical Biochemistry by Charteajea ( I was always among the top 3% in chemical pathology. This never failed)

Then for Pharmaology.

1) Basic & Clinical Pharmacology, by Bertram G. Katzung(depending on the time you have. Never used it. Only decorated my reading table)

2) BRS Pharmacology ( it's very concise. )

3) USMLE Pharmacology ( don't know where I would have been in Pharm but not for this book. My 2ND MB Exam in Pharm was epic. From the MCQs to the Essay to the Viva. This book played a pivot role)

Internal Medicine. You'll be doing postings in internal medicine as well.

1) R. Alagappan A Manual of Practical Medicine.( Everything you'll ever be asked in Ward Rounds will be in this book)

2) API Textbook of Medicine( I don't fancy Davidson and Kumar and Clark. This one serves me perfectly)

3) Oxford Handbook of Medicine (should always be in your pocket )

Surgery

1) Principles and Practice of Surgery in the Tropics - Badoe and Achampong

2) SRB's Manual of Surgery( you'll need this for exam)

3) SRB's Clinial Methods in Surgery(very necessary )

4) Norman Browse's Introduction to the Symptoms and Signs of Surgical Diseases

With all these, you are armed to conquer.

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Politics › Re: Nyanya Bombing: Interpol Unit Finally Arrives Home With Ogwuche ( Pixs) by lomaxx: 7:26pm On Jul 15, 2014

His flesh should be chopped off his body inch by inch using a hot blade.

Bloody terrorist!!!

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Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 5:34pm On Jul 15, 2014

estyann: I have a first degree in chemistry, I want to further my education but I'm a little confused....

Should I pick an MSC form for clinical pharmacology ( is there a department in the hospital that can enable me to work as a pharmacologist?)

Should I just go straight to MSC public health and lastly

Should I just pick a DE form 4 medicine?
Although I'm also considering the number of years I'll spend studying again so the last option is strictly my mum's opinion, not mine....

But pls, what do you guys think And advice.....

Msc for pharmacology may not land you a job in a Nigerian hospital, to the best of my knowledge. Your knowledge will be more needed in pharma and industry and moreso research.

Msc public health is doable. I won't advise you to go directly into public health. Take one of the subspecialties and do it in Masters. Health Economics, Epidemiology, Environmental Health etc. Health Economics is hotcake right now- and will be in years to come.

DE for MBBS is purely a personal choice. Considering the number of years, no one needs to tell you what to do on this one. It had to be something you really want to do. That's the way I see it.

Having a science based degree is a basis for offshoot into any potential field you want to. You really can do a lot with a first degree in chemistry.

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Health › Re: I Need Your Help Medics!! by lomaxx: 11:46pm On Jul 13, 2014

UniqueGem: The only person I believe have this prob is my immediate sis though hers is restricted to just seafood. No form of asthma so far in my life. Please apart from the nausea and vomiting am seeing now? Any bigger risk in the future?

Allergic response is a spectrum. It varies amongst individuals and the type of allergen(food in this case). You seem to have a very mild form of seafood allergy. The symptoms are only in your gastrointestinal tract. It could be life-threatening in some other people. Some seafood may cause a more severe response than others.

So it's just best to AVOID. Lots of us have allergies to a lot of stuff. We survive them by avoiding them.

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Health › Re: I Need Your Help Medics!! by lomaxx: 9:59pm On Jul 13, 2014

-Anyone else in your family has the same problem? Immediate or extended family, I mean.
-Do you have a history of asthma, either in childhood or currently?
-Do you have other things you're allergic to ? Like pollen, dust, smell of frying oil, smoke etc?

It's possible you have seafood allergy. Typically, the food you mentioned up there are all high in protein content. Seafood protein can trigger an allergic response in genetically susceptible individuals.

Why you also have the same response to chicken and turkey is because, almost everybody that reacts to seafood protein will almost always react to animal protein. The protein of these foods are quite heat stable on cooking but when they're fried, the proteins are denatured (protein are denatured as heating increases)hence you have no reaction to them. This explains why you don't react to fried chicken and turkey.

Management plan? As with other forms of allergy, avoid seafood. Also avoid food, you're susceptible to. It may just be nausea and vomiting now- you wouldn't want to trigger an anaphylaxis sometime in the future.

See your doctor for evaluation.

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Education › Re: Career Guidance And Opportunity Thread For Students by lomaxx(op): 5:59pm On Jul 12, 2014

Doclight: lomaxx please comment on this

"Its not wrong to ask questions anyway ur doctor
friend is wrong I have 2 guys studying the course
right now in UK, public health is for microbiologist,
doctors, nurses, biochemist for anybody whose
course relates to health."

thanks

What made this question arise?

I think the squabble is between public health as relates to doctors and other health professionals.

Anybody can do a post graduate degree in public health. MPH or whatever. My mom has a PhD in public health. She was originally trained as a nurse.

But not everybody can have a specialist qualification in public health. The Fellows of the Royal College of Public Health, West African College of Community Health and National College of Community Health who specialize in public health are all specialist public health practitioners. And you need a primary medical degree (MD, BDS, or MBBS)to proceed on that quest.

I hope what I'm answering you is what I hope it is.

Have a lovely weekend.

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Your Ideal Job by lomaxx: 10:34am On Jul 12, 2014

Nigerian Politicians will still find a way to earn exaggerating amounts.

Education › Re: Career Guidance And Opportunity Thread For Students by lomaxx(op): 8:01am On Jul 12, 2014

Doclight: great forum. Lomaxx.

Lets move this thread.

Ok lemme start.

U Think its ok for an art student back then in school to have intrest in med now?

Could it be lust?

Good morning. Your question is multi-modal in dimension. I'll try as much as possible to narrow it down.

It's okay for someone who did art subjects in secondary school to develop interest totally in another field after secondary school. Interest is the beginning of a successful career pursuit in a desired field. So if the interest has been developed, it is a good start.

Furthermore, any individual who chooses to develop career interest in a field different from what he was previously trained in secondary school, should be ready to brace up with challenges in that field. That's where being realistic comes in. Being realistic entails that you not just have the interest, you also have what it takes to successfully land your ambition - else you'll be seeking a futile adventure with concurrent waste of time.

In the light of this, if an arts student wants to do medicine or any medical-related course, he/she should understand the commitments involved and work hard towards achieving it. It is indeed very possible. What will make it okay or not , will be how it would turn out.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 1:43pm On Jul 11, 2014

adusco: . I' ♍ not in support of no3, the doctor that performed operation on my sis is now α professor and at d same time α consultant cld ʸ̲Ou please explain how dis happened.NB he is α family friend I know him very well.

You're never in support of anything good. You are pathologically bitter towards every meaningful thing that has been typed on this thread. Your contributions reek of poor self image and desire for irrelevant relevance.

What AyodejiGB typed up there is self-explanatory. You cannot understand. It's clearly beyond you.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 11:53am On Jul 11, 2014*

sisiafrika: don't be sentimental. Ansa his question. And dis shoulldnt come from you.

No sentiments are involved.

I have nothing against any profession using any title as deem fit. Totally nothing. What I have against is that poster saying that doctors prevent other health professionals from using the title "doctor".

This is not true. We have Doctor of Optometry and Doctor Of Pharmacy.

How has doctors prevented optometrists and pharmacists from using the title "doctor"?

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 11:30am On Jul 11, 2014

splasher: Is it only the MBBS holder that is taught holistic patient management? Do you think the little one year course in pharmacolgy or laboratory medicine is enough for MBBS holders to lay claim as lord and master in this areas? Are MBBS holders the only ones that are taught clinical psychology? Do your job and allow others do their job. Do not dictate to others what they know better you. You are exposed to all aspects of health care because you prevent others who have the right to do so. That is why you are MASTERS OF NONE?

Yes. One year intensive pharmacology is enough.

What do you think you were taught in pharmacology that I wasn't ? General and Systemic. Oya tell us. The host of Nairaland awaits your response.

In my school, only professors of pharmacology and medical doctors with a PhD in pharmacology are allowed to teach medical students pharmacology. Anyone else doing pharmacology is free to use other lecturers.

I don't care how a drug is being manufactured and all that. It's not my area. My primary concern is how a patient that presents with difficulty in breathing and bilateral leg swelling is going to benefit from a particular treatment modality(drug or not). I need the knowledge that's why I was taught expressly and thoroughly.

So what's sparking your head in pharmacology that I don't know? Go siddon somewhere jAre.

A medical doctor is naturally advantaged over y'all spitting fire and brimstone. We see and taste it all.

You made your choice, I made mine. Deal with it.

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:54am On Jul 11, 2014

anergy: I did not even mention MBBS or MD in my post. I only corrected a misconception that medical student don't write research work b/4 graduation.

And one fellow was there yapping that the research done by medical students before graduation is not research. He called it a "group project". And because it is done by a group it's not a research. If you have the time and knowledge , exposé him to the concept of research, the methods of research and if possible, guidelines. If you don't, let it slide. He can go learn for himself.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:42am On Jul 11, 2014

splasher: "DOCTORS" of MBBS, it seems this title of doctor has gotten into your heads and it's responsible for this unholy 24 point demand. You do not know drug use and drug interaction like the pharmacist. You are threatened by the Lab Scientist because gone are the days you look at someone nose and eye and say they have malaria. With increasing demand for evidence based practice, you are finding out you need the medical labs more and more. The advent of in- vitro diagnostics by the medlabs is reducing your scope further. Is that why you are asking the government not to allow them practice their profession. Why won't you allow others expand a technique that is within their ambit of practice? Is it because they call you "DOCTOR"? Show me why you should be called DOCTOR. Is there any anywhere in your certificate that gives you the right to call yourselves doctors? If none, then why are against other who want to call themselves doctors? Who and what gives you that right?
Answer these questions and I would recant my previous comment. With all the misdiagnosis in our hospitals, you are asking for salary increment. I think is time we DYMISTIFY this TITLE called DOCTOR. Is time we allow those involved in drug management monitor their patient they prescribe the drug for. Those involved in evidence based diagnostics should be allowed to expand their capabilities. There is no sense in "DOCTORS" of MBBS in insisting they should determine salaries and extent of human capacity development of other health care profession because they are erroneously called DOCTORS.

There goes the ranting of someone who believes patient management is all about drug use, drug interaction and laboratory diagnosis.

Young man, there's a reason doctors are taught pharmacology and laboratory medicine in Part 2. And that's only in Part 2. So calm your nerves. You'd rather we knew nothing about it right? Funny haha.

Being a doctor gives you a privileged exposure to all aspects of healthcare. So that when a patient presents before you, you'll treat patient management as a holistic affair - including his/her psychology.

You're just ranting balderdash. Just go find somewhere siddon

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:18am On Jul 11, 2014

sainty2k3: Only in Nigeria where anything goes, ppls check it out from dictionary to web

There is a lot of sarcasm in my post. Hidden, but it's there.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:15am On Jul 11, 2014

saganuwa: as a doctor especially in pediatrics, your patients problems becomes yours. when they need blood, doctors donate, pay for drugs for families who are too poor and u call them selfish! wow.

Last year, I was mobilizing my colleagues to donate blood for one of my friends who was diagnosed of acute lymphoblastic leukemia(L2). We had to keep her alive till she gets to India for her bone marrow transplant.

I was in company of 4 willing donors en route the blood bank. On getting there, I met a situation. The mother of a pediatric patient was frantically pacing around. She needed blood for her child. No family member was fit to donate . She had already donated but it wasn't enough. I came with 4 donors for my friend, but I had to ask 2 donors to go donate for the child.

While I was saying this, a pediatric resident walked out of the bleeding room where he just donated for the same child. So I understand very well what you mean.

These are things doctors do everyday for patients. I know how hard it is for Nigerians to donate their blood to save your life. Sounds easy, but it's very hard. Even some of your pastors would refuse to donate.

I'm not going to talk about the countless times where patients are not able to afford the cheapest treatment options available. And the doctor has to pay out of compassion.

So when Nigerians call doctors selfish and all those stuff, I'm amazed. Really amazed.

Nairaland has opened my eyes to a lot of hard truth. Hard truth, I must say.

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:05am On Jul 11, 2014

GoodBoi1: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(title)

That's not the point. I care less about whoever uses what title. It's a free world, after all.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 9:04am On Jul 11, 2014

candy: You have a really low opinion of Naija doctors! I'm not surprised though-a prophet has no value in his city.
Why are Nigerians rushing to India for treatment? This has little or nothing to do with naija doctors' lack of expertise. Nigerian doctors are well trained and don't shy away from cases. Unfortunately; what will you do if you have no equipments to work with? Equipments that your employer(in most cases the government) should put in place.
You people go about blaming doctors for the increase in medical tourism abroad when your government refused to upgrade, maintain and invest in hospitals.

Unfortunately, when the public is allowed to get involved in addressing opinion towards a certain profession, they most likely would misfire because they know little and next to nothing concerning the mechanics of these things.

Almost nobody wakes up and decides to go to India for treatment. Most of the cases that go to India, And Europe are referrals from our tertiary health institutions mostly due to lack of facilities or expertise in the chosen procedure of treatment.

So what Nigerians should think of is this: If the tertiary health institutions that are supposed to be the last port of call for any Nigerian as regards to healthcare is making most referrals to India, and Europe, something must be wrong somewhere.

Walk into any orthopedic ward in this country and see the tools orthopedic surgeons are using to immobilize fractured limbs. If you have colleagues in Europe, talk to them about fracture immobilization and what they use. If possible, ask for pictures. If you don't weep for this country at the end, I'll modify my post.

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 8:49am On Jul 11, 2014

sainty2k3: Check dictionary meaning of the word Doctor, it is limited to theologians, PhD holders,physicians, dentist,vetinary medicine degree holders

Anyone is free to use the title "doctor" as deemed fit. Anyone.

Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 8:47am On Jul 11, 2014

macsika: its very rare to find a good and descent doctor in Nigeria that properly knows the medical ethics. All doctors see in patients these days is money,money and more money, they don't even care about the patients welfare.

Now that you know so much about medical ethics more than the doctors, I will love to be under your tutelage.

Kindly teach me. Medical ethics, sir.

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Health › Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by lomaxx: 8:45am On Jul 11, 2014

APContherun: To start with I dont think there's any law or statute that ties the word "Dr" exclusively to practitioners of medicine. The word is just a title ascribed to anyone who by virtue of an act or convention deserves it so it's wrong and silly of medical practitioners to claim exclusive right over it.

I need medical practitioners here to point me to any law that gives them exclusive use of the word "doctor" .

This is the most irrelevant post on this thread. Are you thinking with your spinal cord or are you deliberately making this up?

Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 2:13pm On Jul 10, 2014

alutacontinua: sure

-Right.
-We go relate
-Have a splendid day

Education › Re: Students Writing Exams On The Floor In Gubi, Bauchi State by lomaxx: 2:06pm On Jul 10, 2014

Rogers210: You are f*cked.

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Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 2:00pm On Jul 10, 2014

alutacontinua: hmmmmmmmm
I left naija since oo
that power supply ish can make someone crazy

So you left.
Wow!
You still have email access right?

Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 1:56pm On Jul 10, 2014

[quote author=ebsuguy][/quote]I believe the current pre-clinical folks are eager to learn from your experience. The methods you adopted, study techniques, books you used, what your strongest point was, any mistakes and also the other courses.

Education › Re: Students Writing Exams On The Floor In Gubi, Bauchi State by lomaxx: 1:39pm On Jul 10, 2014

This country is fuc.ked!!!

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Education › Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 12:54pm On Jul 10, 2014

ebsuguy: Hello house...been a while...Respects to the chiefs in the house...been busy with 1st mb...finally done...results was released yesterday...it went well (Anat.D)...Chiefs pls I need your advice on where and how to channel my strength in the books and which books I should get for this class.

You had a distinction in Anatomy?
Bro I'm happy for you.

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