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alBHAGDADI:
Hello,

There's this wrong believe among Christians that the Bible supports drinking alcohol but only in moderation. They say we can drink alcohol but we shouldn't get drunk. Well, I will be using Bible verses to show that Christians are not to look at alcohol not to talk of drinking it. Also, this thread will debunk common lies told to support drinking alcohol e.g Jesus turning water to wine.

The word wine is mentioned 231 times in the Bible. But the mistake we make today is that we think the wine mentioned is just alcholic wine. Half the time wine is mentioned in the Bible, it is about fruit juice.

In the Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written in, the word translated as wine was used to refer to alcohol and also fruit juice. So when those who translated the Bible into English did so, they had to look for an English word which could mean alcoholic beverage and fruit juice. That word is wine. You might wonder why the translators didn't make things easy for us by just writing fruit juice when the verse is talking of fruit juice and write alcoholic beverage when it's about alcohol. The thing is, doing such would mean they are injecting their own idea into the Bible.

Now, in modern times, we have this believe that wine means an alcoholic drinks. That's why we think the word wine in the Bible is always referring to alcohol. Let's me show you that wine in the Bible doesn't always mean alcoholic beverage but fruit juice.



As seen above, wine is found in the cluster i.e wine still in the cluster of grapes. This is purely fruit juice and not alcoholic.

However, grapes usually have a white powdery film around it called yeast. It is that yeast that is made use of to make alcoholic wine. They crush the grapes and in the process the yeast mixed with the fruit juice that was inside grape cluster. Next fermentation takes place then the result if alcoholic wine. Most times, wine makers add more yeast to attain the desired alcohol level. So you see, wine moved from normal fruit juice before it became alcoholic wine after yeast was added.

Now, there are two types of wine as explained above: The alcoholic and fruit juice. There's a certain type of wine the Bible said we shouldn't even look at, not to talk of touching our lips with it. Read the passage below.



The verse above is talking about alcoholic wine. It even describes fermentation process. It says we shouldn't even look at that type of wine. Yet some folks say we can drink it in moderation.



It describes the feeling one gets after drinking alcohol. It's a horrible feeling.



Have you ever had alcohol such that after taking it, women whom you would never touch with a ten foot poll suddenly start looking attractive to you? The above verse describes it as the effect of alcohol. It also describes how you start saying all sorts of junks which you would not normal say.



Remember when you lie down after taking alcohol and the whole bed seems like you are swimming, and also you feel like you are floating and your eyes being dizzy. That's the feeling described.



After the whole horrible night and you wake up to hangover, what's the cure drunkards usual prescribe? They say to cure hangover, start drinking again. That's what the above passage described.

Yet, some people say we can drink alcohol in moderation and that it only becomes a sin when we get drunk. Sorry buddy, the Bible says don't even look at it.

The Bible doesn't say we should drink alcohol in moderation. It says we should be sober at all times (1 Thessalonians 5:6 Titus 2:3).

Now let's see the common verses people love to twist to try to say we can drink alcohol

The first is found in the passage where Jesus turned water into wine. They fail to realize that it was fruit juice kind of wine, not the alcoholic or fermented one. Let's examine the passage carefully.



According to some people, it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into and gave the people at the wedding to drink. However, a closer look shows that not to be the case.

Pay close attention to verse 10 where the Bible says when men have well drunk. Let's see how the New International Version (NIV) renders that verse.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into, then it basically means he wanted to destroy the guests at the wedding. After they have had too much to drink, Jesus decided to give them more. That means if there were cars back then, many would have accidentally on their way home. Remember the passage in Proverbs 23 which talks about the horrible effects alcohol. If we say these people were already drunk on alcohol, then Jesus just helped them double those effect in their life by giving them more. This means they would start to behold strange women and say perverse things. Now, tell me, who would want to listen to Jesus preach the next morning after the "alcoholic wine" he gave them to drink made some of the men to sleep with their housemaid to the anger of their wives? Made them to saw perverse things to their boss? Made them to sleep in the gutter? Yet you say Jesus gave people alcohol to drink.

Jesus didn't give anybody alcohol to drink. Doing so would mean he's a liar. Remember what he said in the passage below.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into at the wedding in Cana, then he abolished the law and the prophet which spoke against alcoholic wine in Proverbs 23:31. So clearly it wasn't alcoholic wine he turned water into but fruit juice.

Another passage people love to use for an excuse to drink alcohol is seen below.

Mathew 11:18-19
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

The above passage talks about a false accusations against Jesus who pointed out how they also falsely accused John the Baptist. Yet, some people will say because Jesus was accused of being a drunkard then it means he use to drink alcohol. Was John the Baptist possessed with a devil? No, but he was accused of such. I now wonder why you believe Jesus drank alcohol due to some false accusations. Remember, the accusation is that he was a drunkard. So if you use this verse to justify drinking alcohol, then don't get angry when some tells you that Jesus use to fall into gutter after getting drunk; he use to behold strange women and say perverse things. Can you see how wrong they are with their interpretation of the passage?

Another verse they use is seen below.




They pick the verse out context and say God is telling us that we can buy alcohol and drink it. If you read the previous verses, you will see that the context is about tithing. Those items listed alongside strong drink are to be brought to the temple for sacrifice to God. Some are eating, but it excludes the strong drink because nowhere in the above passage does it say drink the strong drink, same way it doesn't say drink the oil. Now, see what the strong drink is used for.



The strong drink or wine is poured out onto the Lord for a drink offering. It is not to be drank at all. But people have twisted the verse in Deutoronomy 14:26 to mean God is saying we can drink alcohol even when he said in Proverbs 23 that we shouldn't even look at it.

Guys, drinking alcohol is a sin and every Christian should abstain from it. Don't let anybody fool you into think moderation is the key. A little sip sends your good sense of judgment out the window. That's when another glass or bottle won't seem like a bad idea. And note, wine has tripple alcohol content that four bottles of beer. So don't think drinking a glass of wine is sophisticated. You are emore alcoholic than the beer drinker.

your analogy about Jesus turning water to wine, give us the defination of 'wine'

lucky chap.

this nigga is above 70

helinues:
Wike is playing dirty games with Muslims in Rivers.. It seems he has bought some to go against others..

Still unnecessary

Get lost. Does Zamfara or kano have Christian pilgrim welfare board?

Lol, see comedy.

DONFRANSKID:
Anybody can make it like if u agree

How did he made it?

You mean, Buratai donated cash and military equipment to boko haram on the orders of Jibrin aka buhari

very true.

the black race is cursed.

Lol

Afonjas were happy of the attack on mostly Igbos in SA, same Afonjas are major looters who are involved in the reprisal account.

That means majority of them are lazy.

hehehehehe

so no CCTV in d hotel?

if they like they should build 5 star hotel for each fulani as long as their ruga remains in d north, no qualms.

fuçk cnn

KanwuliaExtra:
Na so IPOB go attack Nigerians from Biafra ke!
See SHYTEHOLE vs SHYTEHOLE!
The world is having a goooooooooood laugh!

Let me see if anyone can blame WHITE PEOPLE for this BLACK CURSE!

The BLACK race is truly SUB-HUMAN!

Kai!!!!!

na ipob loot shops for lagos?

eleojo23:
Oga, what is the point of this your comment now?

We are talking about South Africa and you are attacking Trump and America.

Today is for South Africa, you can attack Trump and America another day.

So, stay on topic!

zombies get brain?

lol
lagosians don jam one chance.

Remimadrid:
Am not jobless, am just concerned.

and the only way to show it is by looting your fellow country men's businesses?

Remimadrid:
Its high time the youths in Nigeria also start looting South African business in Nigeria as retaliation.

Go find work, tif!

Nollyzonenews:
Nollywood film-maker and producer, Olajide Kareem, aka Seun Egbegbe, has spent over 30 months (two years and six months) in prison after he failed to meet the N5m bail granted him by the Federal High Court in Lagos. He was incarcerated on February 10, 2017.

The 43-year-old had been arrested for allegedly obtaining money by false pretences from no fewer than 40 bureau de change operators in different parts of Lagos from 2015 to 2017.

Egbegbe allegedly swindled the BDC operators out of the money by claiming that he had naira to change into foreign currencies and vice versa.

The erstwhile Lagos socialite had been arraigned by the police for a series of fraud involving N39,098,100, $90,000 and £12,550.

Egbegbe and one Oyekan Ayomide were first arraigned on February 10, 2017, before Justice Oluremi Oguntoyinbo, on 36 counts bordering on advance fee fraud.

The charge sheet was subsequently amended twice, with the counts eventually increased to 40 and three other defendants – Lawal Kareem, Olalekan Yusuf and Muyideen Shoyombo – added.

The prosecuting counsel for the police, Innocent Anyigor, said Egbegbe and the other defendants acted contrary to Section 8 of the Advance Fee Fraud and Other Related Offences Act 2006 and were liable to be punished under Section 1(3) of the same Act.

They pleaded not guilty.

On February 24, 2017 Justice Oguntoyinbo granted each of them N5m bail with two sureties in like sum.

The judge said one of the sureties must be a civil servant on at least Level 16 and must own a landed property in Lagos State.
The surety, the court said, must deposit the Certificate of Occupancy of the landed property in the custody of the court.

Both sureties were to swear to affidavit of means, while their addresses were to be verified by the court registrar.

Oguntoyinbo ordered them to be remanded in prison until they meet the bail conditions.

Over 30 months after, Egbegbe has remained in the Ikoyi Prison, as he has been unable to perfect his bail conditions.

Source: https://gidifeed.com/seun-egbegbe-has-now-spent-over-30-months-in-jail/

is he not a thief?

lilfreezy:
I wan to loot Shoprite

Nigerian police will not hesitate to kill you!

WorWorBoy2:
That's what any smart thinking govt will do duh, unlike Nigeria where so many foreigners are here. And govt don't seem to care.

but you wan go USA.

darfay:
I wonder why Nigerians and other Africans are feeling entitled, if you are not welcomed pack your load and go. It's high time we developed our own country and stop this feeling of entitlement in other people's own.

what has your government been doing? so na the 2k whey I just hustle yesterday I go use develop the country?
Abegii

Metrixnews:
A group, World Igbo Congress (WIC) at the weekend conferred on the Minority leader of the Senate, Senator Enyinnaya Abaribe the award of Nma Agha Ndigbo (sword) in Houston, Texas United States, ABN TV reports.

The 2019 prestigious Distinguished Service Award our correspondent gathered is in recognition of the lawmaker's courage, consistency and the defence of rule of law and the people's rights in democracy.

The leader of IPOB, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu had earlier threatened to attack Igbo leaders sighted anywhere around the world after the attack of former senate President, Ike Ekweremadu.

Source: https://www.abnews247.com/2019/09/abaribe-defies-nnamdi-kanus-threat-receives-award-in-united-states/

abaribe is ipob!

celebgistz2:
Ass licker is gone ... BYE BYE!!

he licked yo azz?

Akorede02:
No Messiah will want to safe Nigeria. I doubt if Jesus christ can. We are ourselves problem. Infact it's a sin to be a Nigerian this era.

English don kpai!

gat ur message though.

youngsahito:
Those greedy ibos should learn from this.

e be like say u miss marry igbo geh because u too broke to do the needful. eyaa!

nengibo:
Rivers state get tribes sha, the kings surname is Ijaw, the title is Igbo, the language is Igboid the logo is Edoid

which language is igbos again?

fecta:
Man City and Liverpool are miles ahead of other teams in the EPL.

Argue with your keyboard

that's because they have world class coaches and these other clubs u mentioned are busy doing favouritism and tribalism.

I know was na catholic preaching be this.

nice piece.

no be only 19 million.

you get house of your own?

Beverlyjean:
Is it that u don't listen to the news... 3 police men where killed for arresting a high profile kidnapper... Have I ever heard of a celebrated kidnapper?? Try it and get arrested...

if they kidnappers were not having a swell time, those policemen wont have been killed.