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macof:
[s] ok. I don't know anything. . I don't even know what banishment means


Oba of Benin is representative of Eweka.
Ooni is representative of oduduwa

did you get it? how eweka is greater than oduduwa beats me

such nonsense.


When you realize that Eweka had to be authorized from Ife. ..but oduduwa didn't rule with the authority from Igodomigodo maybe when you become smart enough to realize the implications of that you would have something better to say. ..for now you're just full of shiit




but how can you convince scholars that Oduduwa has Benin blood? as far as the world is concerned talking about oduduwa is a yoruba duty and no yoruba tradition has it that Oduduwa has Benin blood

what rites were done during the Oba of Benin' s coronation that links with Ekaladerhan? what part of the Oba's praise links with the Ogiso or Ekaladerhan? what part of any Yoruba oba links with Ekaladerhan. ... you need proof dude

not only is this Ekaladerhan story only being heard recently, it is full of things that don't apply to Oduduwa

at least you accept that Oranmiyan was the one who ended ogiso and started the Oba dynasty. And we don't accept the Ooni was started by Ekaladerhan you see how we win





I really don't care if Somalian princes were ruling... I'm in this for my interest in History.. ehmm you say ruling as if any king in modern Nigeria is really ruling. .. don't think bini kingdom still exists. . it's dead, alongside all the yoruba kingdoms and northern emirates
It's the constitution of Nigeria and the president of Nigeria and the 36 State governors that rule now


actually You have all the inferiority complex. you had to invent a story just to have something to claim over yorubas. .. For Bini kingdom to have been ruled by a line of kings from Ife annoys you. accepting what was true to the bini 200 years ago is now unacceptable to you. .. Inferiority complex



this is hilarious. so oba of Benin hates truth? your Ekaladerhan story is faulty and can't possibly be about oduduwa simple truth! Ekaladerhan is Ekaladerhan. .. Oduduwa is oduduwa.. Before colonialism nobody ever said Ekaladerhan was oduduwa.
this is a recent invention to help sooth your inferiority complex towards yoruba. You people just realized that you've given Ife a lot of credit which sickens you now. ..it's the Nigerian environment. ..

Before Nigeria, Bini told the world how it's kings are descendants of an Ife Prince. ..nobody heard of Ekaladerhan,

Before Nigeria, Bini told the world that it's bronze casters were taught by an Ife man. .now they deny it


Before Nigeria, Bini told the world that it's kings were traditional authorized by the Ooni of Ife...now saying this is problem


And about Oba of Benin ruling with might and all that. .. Akure is not what you should mention... Akure gave you lot the toughest time of your empire's existence[/s]

I've said it repeatedly, when you post conjectures as facts, be decent enough to back them up with links, books, manuscripts.

I have backed my assertions with a link (with the page referencing multiple books and resources).

In comparison, all you're typing are words. Ramblings not worth the energy used to type them.

Back them up with resources, and then you'll have my ears.

Until then, keep lying to yourself so you can sleep better at night or feel good about your sorry self..

Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa. Oduduwa is a Bini prince.

Bini princes rule the Yorubas.

-Lord

macof:
oh and lemme just play your game. cus I will murder you in either scenario

let's say oduduwa is Ekaladerhan

in what part of africa is a banished person claimed by the people who banish him? you sent the nigga away, he was received by better people. .he rejected you henceforth and as he was already banished he stopped being Igodomigodo. ..and as he was accepted into ife. .he started being an Ife man. he didn't become king of ife under Igodomigodo authority unlike the Oba of Benin who became king of bini under Ife authority
...he was buried in Ife like an Ife man but Eweka and all obas before ovoramwen were buried in Ife (as men with ife origin)

it's common sense but modern bini folks seem to have lost that as inferiority complex came barging in

you see either way you lose this supremacy war

This is not a game.

Princes get banished all the time. If two princes contested a throne, the losing prince may either be killed or allowed to go on exile.

Even in Europe banished princes became rulers of other kingdoms and ultimately ruled their own kingdom. It was the way of the old.

Don't talk like a crappy student of history. It appears that beyond the folklore you've been entertained, you know nothing about the history and socio-economical relations of people now occupying present day Nigeria before there was a Nigeria in the first place.

Oduduwa started a new dynasty in Ife. It doesn't erase the blood that flows through him. It is Bini blood.

Oranmiya who started the new dynasty in Oyo empire carried Bini blood.

The first Oba of Bini who started the dynasty that eclipsed the dynasty of the Ogisos carried Bini blood. In fact, he had to marry a Bini princess to birth a heir that could have sat on the Bini throne.

Ooni Ogunwusi has Bini blood flowing through him, not Ife blood. You could even say he is not a pure bred Yoruba. He even had to divorce his Yoruba wife and marry a Bini wife immediately he was crowned. His son would be more Bini than Yoruba. The thrones of Ife and Oyo will forever be manned by people of Bini heritage.

Even if I nationalize in the US today, it does not erase the fact that I have Nigerian blood flowing through me.

I wonder how you feel about Bini princes ruling over you, and yet come only to talk trash about the Bini throne.

Now who has an inferiority complex.

The Bini people are proud people and do not let outsiders tell their story for them. Especially not inferiors ruled by princes from Bini.

Now run away you Yoruba scum, your ancestors knew better than to speak this vanity you now hold dear. If you were alive before colonialism and said this shit in even Akure or Eko where the Bini Oba ruled with his might, you would have lost your tongue.

-Lord

TVTKOKO:
take it easy man.. What's the point? I mean,, whats the point you're tryna prove that makes u insult?
Is it the oduduwa you want Oya take it!
Abi is it oyo empire you want If you want it, come and collect it. But please do not insult the great yoruba race.. at least not from insignificant edos. Peace

I respect the Yoruba race. Unfortunately, it seems to be the trait of your kind to belittle all their adversaries.

My response is actually a quid pro quo statement.

The Bini empire at some point conquered Akure, Owo, Eko (present day Lagos, Eko is bini word for "war camp", and several other Yoruba kingdoms. And kept them as vassal states. The Oyo empire even in its might was unable to conquer any Bini village.

They were able to conquer towns in the Dahomey empire tho'. This should give you a hint about the military sagacity and greatness of the Bini people.

On the West of the River Niger, the Bini race would have been a solid rival of the Yoruba people, but for a couple of reasons.

You seem like a reasonable person so I'll entertain you with a brief sociology excerpt.

1. The Bini people only used the waterways for combat, not for trade. So it was the Itsekiri who mediated trade discussions between the Bini and the Europeans, unlike the Yorubas. If Binis did, they'd have been more prosperous and not had the misunderstanding that resulted in the sacking of the Bini empire by the British.

2. The Bini kings were known to be cruel. This mitigated the mass exodus of people from the Bini empire to as far as Bayelsa state (there are Urhobo and Isoko clans in Bayelsa). The Urhobo and Isoko people together constitute the 5th largest twin ethnicity in Nigeria (by some estimates).

3. The Bini empire was not an integrated empire like the Oyo empire. While the Oyo empire brought many clans under the Yoruba hegemony, the Bini empire left their conquered towns and cities to maintain their own heritage, as long as they brought riches and slaves to the throne. Else ethnicities like the Esans would have been integrated under the Bini hegemony.

So, when you talk about the greatness of the Yoruba race, don't forget about the greatness of the Bini race. Together, the two races ruled West of the river Niger for 9000 years and birthed or influenced every other ethnicity around the region.

Therefore, the Yoruba people should have as much respect for the Bini crown as they do the Ife crown and stop the erroneous campaign that the Bini crown is below the Ife crown.

As long as you guys continue to press on with the abominable assertion that the Yorubas are the greatest race west of the Niger, we'll continue to remind you guys that the Binis gave you guys identity.

Better to live and let live or start an e-war you can't possibly win.

-Lord

macof:
i hope u know that no scholar takes u clowns seriously. shout from now till a thousand years u are too small to claim oduduwa.. deal with it

Who is claiming?

Oduduwa is from Bini.

FACT.

Or maybe you should read my posts on this thread.

If not for the Bini giving you guys Oduduwa, you guys would have been a bunch of rag-wearing riff-raffs. Because Oyo empire was birthed by a descendant of Oduduwa, and the empire was instrumental for creating a Yoruba hegemony that staved off the Fulani Jihad.

Deal with this fact supported by historians or hang yourself.

-Lord

lexyking:
i have tried to stay off this rivalry between the yorubas and the benins because to me its useless and uncalled for,however i'm forced to set the records straight because it is said that when a lie continues to be told over and over again without either correcting the lie or revealing the truth such lies might start getting some credibility.now im not one who argues without cross checking the facts i had done an extensive research on the origins of this great tribes and i will be sharing my facts with you much more later fell free to cross check them after all there is a saying that everyone is entitled to there truths but everyone is not entitled to there own facts cos the facts are indisputable.let me stop the stories and start with the facts
FACT NO 1; the notion that Oduduwa the progenitor of the Yoruba race left Benin to go and found Ile ife is not only laughable but crazy,although for lack of records the exact year of Ile ife origin could not be gotten but all available facts agreed that between 1200 and 1400 A.D Ile ife had already developed a functional and well developed society this claim is validated by the age of of all the Yoruba artifact that was taken from Ile ife.WHILE the Binin kingdom only came into being by 1440 as a matter of fact there is no known artifact of Binin origin that predate that of IFE.
from this facts its obvious that Ile ife is older than Binin kingdom,so Oduduwa could not have come from binin.read and digest this i will be back with more fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My good friend, when you use the word "FACT" back it up with links or quotes from books, manuscripts, or authorities on the subject.

In Ways of the World: A Brief Global History with Sources written by Robert W. Strayer, the venerated historian surmised that the old Bini Empire traces back to the 11th century. So how can you say that Bini kingdom came into being in the 15th century (1440).

Why do you guys like revising history? It is shameful that a learned people would brazenly lie.

Now, please read the Wikipedia entry of the Benin Empire -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire.

I understand that anyone can edit that entry. So if you do not agree with the assertions on the page, you can delete it and add your own revisionist version backed with books and facts.

Now, let me post an excerpt from that page for all and sundry to see.

"The original people and founders of the Benin Empire, the Edo people, were initially ruled by the Ogiso (Kings of the Sky) dynasty who called their land Igodomigodo. The rulers or kings were commonly known as Ogiso. Igodo, the first Ogiso, wielded much influence and gained popularity as a good ruler. He died after a long reign and was succeeded by Ere, his eldest son. In the 12th century, a great palace intrigue and battle for power erupted between the warrior crown prince Ekaladerhan son of the last Ogiso and his young paternal uncle. In anger over an oracle, Prince Ekaladerhan left the royal court with his warriors. When his old father the Ogiso died, the Ogiso dynasty was ended as the people and royal kingmakers preferred their king's son as natural next in line to rule.

The exiled Prince Ekaladerhan later become Izoduwa or Oduduwa the first Oni in uhe (ile ife). Oranmiyan, grand son of Oduduwa took up his abode in the palace built for him at Usama by the elders (now a coronation shrine). Soon after his arrival he married a beautiful lady, Erinmwinde, daughter of Osa-nego, was the ninth Enogie (Duke) of Ego, by whom he had a son. After some years residence here he called a meeting of the people and renounced his office, remarking that the country was a land of vexation, Ile-Ibinu (by which name the country was afterward known) and that only a child born, trained and educated in the arts and mysteries of the land could reign over the people. He caused his son born to him by Erinmwinde to be made King in his place, and returned to Yoruba land Ile-Ife. After some years in Ife, he left for Oyo, where he also left a son behind on leaving the place, and his son Ajaka ultimately became the first Alafin of Oyo of the present line, while Oranmiyan himself was reigning as Oni of Ife. Therefore, Oranmiyan of Ife, the father of Eweka I, the Oba of Benin, was also the father of Ajaka, the first Alafin of Oyo. Oni of Ife and Alafe of Oyo is a Bini spoken language all the Kings title in Southerner are Edo Language."

So my good friend, if you think that is a lie, edit that Wikipedia page and add facts, don't come on a forum lacking in pedigree to the greatest resource of open-access knowledge on the planet to give your own unverified, ignoble, and ridiculous version.

The Binis (and their King) are superior to the Yorubas (and their many kings). Case closed!

-Lord

@YourNemesis, @2dugged

The Yorubas are known for revisionist history. It is their trademark. Their high degree of literacy just smolders this tendency in a big way.

Ife kingdom is a rag compared to the old bini empire.

The only Yoruba monarchy that rivals the bini empire is the Oyo empire. And even in its height refrained from marching east to sack the Bini empire despite extending to present day Benin (the country) at some point.

That the Bini ethnicity is not at par to the Yoruba ethnicity does not change anything.

Macedonia once produced the finest general the world has ever known, and conqueror of the known world at his time--Alexander the Great. Macedonia is pretty insignificant in the present time. That does not erase the fact that the Middle East, Europe, and Asia once bowed to that little kingdom.

Same can be said about the Romans. Or the Nubians (Blacks in present day Sudan) setting the foundation for the Ancient Egyptian empire only to be schemed out at some point.

The Portuguese parleyed with the Bini more than they did with the Ife people. Present day Bini reach extends to the edge of the River Niger. The entire old Mid-West region and part of the old Eastern region have Bini blood flowing through them.

That Oduduwa was a Bini prince is a plausible theory.

But that is what it is--a theory. Because we can never really be sure.

However, to insinuate that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba king is abominable, bordering on heresy for the strongly religious of the native Bini religion.

The Yorubas and Binis were neighbors. Of course, some elements would have robbed off. But make no mistake. NO YORUBA KINGDOM COULD HAVE PLACED A FOOT ON THE OLD BINI KINGDOM.

The Ovie of Ozoro secures his mandate from the Oba of Benin. So, you could rightly say he is a Bini king, despite him being a full-bred Isoko.

But the Oba of Benin does not secure his mandate from or fall under the tutelage of the Ooni of Ife like other Yoruba kings.

It's a good thing the Binis aren't letting you guys change history.

You lots are despicable. Utterly disappointing. Probably insane.

If the late Ooni of Ife had tried to insinuate that the Oba of Bini was lower than him in the 16th century, the Oba would have beheaded him, plucked out the eyes of his sons, sack his kingdom and hand it over to the Alaafin of Oyo as a gift.

He is (or rather was) lucky, we are in modern times, and anyone can make absurd claims.

-Lord

PaulIdu:
So afterall the economic and political blunders this man has used to degrade our economy it took his kitchen comment for you to know he is a joke ..From what I gather if he didn't make this comment today you would still be Okay with him.. you are also funny I must say

See, I have more morbid hate for Buhari's supporters than Buhari himself.

If I had one bullet and the option to choose between shooting Buhari and a Buharist, I would shoot the Buharist and give Buhari a garland.

These Buharists should be given the Nazi gas chamber treatment. They are the #1 enemies of Nigeria.

Imagine someone saying Buhari should bend the rules to detain judges indefinitely, and that Nigeria need tyrants? When the same Buhari came in through democracy. If he wanted to be a tyrant, he should have played the script perfectly by overthrowing GEJ. Not crossing the Bridge to Aso Rock on the plank of democracy, only to destroy the plank because it doesn't fit the narrative.

Buharists are people that could commit genocide for Buhari (case in point--the Shiites and IPOB). They have no problem with killing off an entire ethnicity because of the man and their pre-historic beliefs (case in point--their clamors during the start of the ND revolt).

These people are savage beasts that do not deserve a place in the living. Secretly they're praying that Buhari does what Erdogan is currently doing.

-Lord

No they don't need to apologize...

Because nobody needs their sill.y apology!

Na all of us dey feel the change.

By 2019, I'm waiting for the FOO.LS who think they can vote Buhari out. Na 2019 una go know the difference between GEJ and Buhari.

Chinakwe's dog must complete 8 years.

-Lord

@OP, when you have a daughter, you can experiment your theory with her.

The only people I pity are your future wive and female children.

-Lord

3rdlegxxx:
bomasek, rosieluv, Berlynn, TrapQueen77, chocolateme, tee59, LordAdam, prettyAdaolisa, Lleigh

This is one funny thread, I have learnt a few things from this thread, one of the reasons I got bored with nairaland and left for close to a month, sexuality and romance sections are foiled with fakes and immature people, loads of people have an adventurous side, some people like to try new things once in a while, some girls and guys are sexually adventurous but they would only try that with a guy they are close with, they don't do it for cash, it's just a crazing or some thing some people try, I know girls that while they were 19 they wanted to try out everything possible, drink, go clubbing, try head, all kinds of sex after a while they calmed down, they graduated, got jobs some are managers and bosses, the point is if I now look at them and try to define them with some adventurous, it's shows ho back ward I am, I am too much of a n open minded type, bro is a bad guy now he says he found a girl that had a 1 off 3sum and u guys are all killing urselves over it, girls have fun, every other weekend a regular girl, your neighbor, cousin is out there having fun, some try 3sums, some just Bleep a guy they like all night and it's not for cash, should we now define them because they choose to have fun with us guys...

Thumbs up on your subsequent story.

The problem with the citizens in this country is that we are all fond of staying in the closet about virtually everything.

Yet these things happen everyday. It'd surprise you that it happens in a close frequency to the way it happens outside the shores. It just isn't talked about.

Abortion is illegal, yet anyone can get Misoprostol over the counter. There are gay clubs in the country. There are even spots in this country to pick up call guys. Org.y parties everywhere. Hook up for swingers and cougars. Our tertiary institutions are dens of folks on sex hyper drive--same sex relations, FWB's, orgie.s happen all the time.

I'm a realist tho'.

We're all Nigerians after all. Which is code word for "we all have a bit of conservativeness in us."

It's like a demon we all have to deal with, regardless of how liberal we are.

I really do wish the OP the best. That he is even open to the idea of dating her says a lot about him being a progressive. 95+% of these self-righteous loathing guys on and outside the forum wouldn't even consider it.

It'd be like the classic case of trying to screw anyone in skirt after crossing puberty, but searching earnestly for a virgin when it's time to get married.

-Lord

faaz24:
The judges have been arrested by DSS and Wike was not able to do anything about it, talkless of you Mr. light skull
The issue is not about Amaechi vs Wike, its about Wike trying to stop the arrest of a judge that is been accused of corruption and yes DSS has every right to arrest anybody that constitutes public nuisance.
Warn Wike not to obstruct the path of justice next time, else he will be shot ! ....

Please, next time shoot him.

In fact, na beg I dey beg.

Shoot any governor that bars any state agency from carrying out their duties.

I'd like to know how long Nigeria lasts as a country after such an unforgivable error.

Kids just be yapping.

This is my first comment on this controversial issue and it will be brief.

Nigerians never learn! And that would be their greatest undoing.

The media is next. Next civil servants and private sector workers will start disappearing.

2019 will be interesting.

I'm more interested in the response from the NJC and the Supreme Court.

-Lord

Fallujah1:
Look at LewdAdam the illiterate dirt poor creek scrounger!!

Kid, where ya pops and mum at?

You're just pained and throwing tantrums.

I'd let you get it out of your system.

The mods will be here with their broom when you're done.

For now, have fun.

You'll eventually get off the thread, and the thread discussion will continue, so I'm not bothered.

-Lord

Why would we need one man to rally around?

We need many men, and from the looks of it, we don't have enough. Not seasoned ones, I mean.

SW has at least 7 heavyweights, that if they cough the whole country will pay attention. North same thing.

I know SS is young in national politics, but all the years of seclusion should have made us build a formidable crop of heavyweight elites.

We're still talking about Odilli (traitor), Ibori, Akpabio, someone even mentioned Wike.

Which of those people can go toe in with someone like Bisi Akande from the West or Ekueme from the East or Abdusalami from the North?

GEJ is just one man, and to be brutally honest, he does not fit the bill.

He placed equity over the SS, forgetting that Nigeria is not America. That miscalculation, thinking he is dealing with sensible people, cost him the second tenure. Now he's enjoying his retirement, while the SS is no better now in 2016 than it was in 2007.

The only thing going for him is that we wouldn't sell him out. Regardless, it should be made clear that he had a chance to be our own Awolowo and he blew it. Posterity will judge him for that.

-Lord

piagetskinner:
So wetin make we come use the pic do

Hating is allowed.

-Lord

Shym3xx:
Lol.

Expect me like you're expecting Jesus.

Time to get the cyber army ready for bombardment. This is Fallujah 2.0

STFO then GTFO!

-Lord

ODVanguard:
Talk another one you dis village champion. Na jealousy go kill you all of you mowfockas. Upon all una mouth, all your 'billionaires' can't even pull their resources together to purchase a Telecom license let alone own a coy the size of Glo while the Yorubas have Glo and the highest stakes in NTel (Nigeria's fifth mobile network). You say Adenuga is a front, yet he's still the second richest Nigerian while your village billionaires are still struggling to even match Otedola and Alakija sef. Shym3xx na im go treat una fvck up. I'm off to bed.

That guy that is getting served.

I see no need for the confrontation on this thread.

On other threads and NCAN threads, it's acceptable. But this is uncalled for. And for people who call themselves sophisticated engaging in this dismal level of pettiness just shows that you guys are more delusional than reasonable.

Carry your dirty comot this thread abeg.

Good night!

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

I don't even have time for you. You're a lewd bastard and a product of a rap3 with spilled oil waste for brain matter.

I came on here for something else - you're inconsequential apart from me taking a dump on ya pops head, while peeing into ya mum's mouth.

You're dismissed back to creeks to mammies.

Waka comot the thread.

Who dey follow you reason things before. I'm showing you the way out.

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

Lool.

https://i.imgur.com/uRxt6.gif

Let me give you a last warning. I don't want to destroy cos I've got the Igbo threads that I'm patiently waiting for. However, if you quote me back, I shall spam/deface the next 3 pages of this thread with similar pictures of what ya Igbo brothers spammed my thread with yesterday unprovoked. But this time, it's going to be pictures of how effed up Igbo land is - not the brown roofs they spammed my thread with.

Each page on NL takes 32 posts x 3 pages = 96 pictures.

Try me.

Who are you?

WTF do you think you are to be giving last warning?

Better face front.

So after defacing the thread with 3 pages of pictures, what will you gain? We'll just call a mod to clean your mess, and it'll be forgotten.

The kind of effrontery some mistakes that should have been aborted display on NL is worrisome.

See eh, just jejelly waka comot this thread. This your waka today na bad market!

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

Lewd bastard, speak in English language.

I can see that your drugs have started taking effect.

No more ramblings of an unstable nonentity.

Please do the needful, and leave the thread...

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

Illiterate lewd bastard with spilled oil waste for brain matter, stop quoting me with ya non-English speaking arse.

Tell ya wretched father to send you to some adult education classes somewhere and stay out of grown folks' business.

And stop quoting me...I didn't rap3 ya forebears.

Fvck off my mentions.

Get Off The Thread!

Very simple.

Maybe I have to use Google Translate to get the Yoruba translation of that simple request.

Don't complain about mentions, just do as you are told!

NL is big enough to find threads that pander to your eccentricities. This thread is not one of them. So, I see no reason why you want to needlessly derail it.

I've called you out. Deal with it, or kill ya sef. You'd be doing this world a huge favor if you choose the latter.

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

Lol, even if you're not Igbo - you must be one of those SSerners whose forebears were rap3d by Biafran soldiers during the Biafran war. So, I don't know why you fvckers always deny ya Igbo heritage. Legitimate or illegitimate conception, the fact that an Igbo rap3d ya forebear means you definitely have Igbo DNA somewhere in ya blood. Stop living in denial and claim ya heritage, you despicable illiterate bastard.

What are you even narcissistic about when you low IQ having arse can't string words together to form an intelligible sentence? Effing LewdAdam!

Eat a dyck and stop quoting me, you creek mammy with spilled oil waste for brain matter.

What is your deal with my name, simpleton?

Keep typing sh*t. I no need to waste energy dey type plenty words.

Get off the thread with your hate! And go back to your cage!

It's a simple task really. But then you aren't normal, so I'm not surprised.

-Lord

Shym3xx:
[s][/s]

Post in English language, you illiterate sod.

The fact that ya illiterate arse even got narcissistic and added "Lord" at the end of ya asinine post despite how unlettered you're, shows everything wrong with the average Igbo. Effing village idiot.

Can you all just look at this mental patient?

Stay away from Igbo threads. Is that too much to ask?

Them say person wen dey dance to music played by a mad man is also a mad man.

O boi, get well soon.

Oh, and next time, no carry your sorry sef show for Igbo thread. Yaba left is big enough for you.

By the way, I'm not Igbo. Igbophobia go kill una.


-Lord

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OROSUNBOLB:
You're just a NOBODY blowing useless hot air around.

Says a NOBODY!

Who know you?

Gerrarahia mehn.

-Lord

Shym3xx:
Lmao.

These Igbos are the ultimate nyggahs. They act like how rappers make noise and compete with one another about who has the biggest chains and biggest rims, while giving out turkeys and trainers to poor black people in the hood. When the real rich people are Jewish folks like Lyor Cohen, Jimmy Iovine, and all the Jewish music execs, making money off them.

I'm sure all the so-called "billionaires" put together don't have Adenuga's money. And they definitely don't have 1/10 of Dangote's money. But just take a look at how they're wanking all over the thread like they're about to buss a nut over some stupid shyte. Smh.

Get a grip!

Why hating for no reason?

Them dey worry all of una from SW for this forum?

Just see how person jor buy ticket for bus when he no 1 enter!

Who is comparing wealth here?

People are discussing the best way to develop the place of their birth, the best way they know how to, and you want to start a pissing contest.

Oga, since you don piss finish, abeg put your phallux inside you trouser, and GTFO!

Good for nothing fellow!

-Lord

Let me sound it clear to every Westerner on this forum.

The SW took an eternal debt in 2015.

2015 was the death knell for Southern unity.

The SS/SE NEVER forgets, we don't forgive.

We will take our own pound of flesh when the time is right.

Tinubu's saving grace is that the Yoruba elders are willing to be merciful and ignore his greed. That's all he needs anyway.

SW MUST rewrite their mistakes themselves. We will not lend a helping hand.

If they can't, good riddance to bad rubbish. If they can, they should keep the spoils to themselves. After all, they weren't called 5%.

Any SS/SE individual promising you guys that the old Mid-Western/Eastern zones will readily reunite with the SW pre-2019 is only out to swindle you guys. Focus your attention on the North. It's 1 against 3. We all know how it'll turn out. History is infallible.

A word is enough for the ....

-Lord

dukeo:
Who has had a successful dealing with this fellow ? His rates look promising

I've dealt with him twice. But na for small change sha.

I would say he is safe. But still shine your eye, na ember month we dey.

-Lord

masseratti:
[s]please do me a favor when you want to response to my quotes, no derogatory words please, try to be objective and civil, if we start throwing words, we will surely miss the point of discuss, and trust me, I have enough in my arsenal in my armoury to make you have a bad day, enuf said.

Now back to the topic.
Thanks for rubbing off my first part, you don't like being remind of the Alliance between SE and the North, because its the holy Alliance right?

Gej had "backyard deal"with tinubu thats why he betrayed Ribadu, wow, thats interesting, so Ribadu would have won that election in 2011 right? if not for tinubu 's betrayal right?so OPC and afenifere or i should call them afenifenuwon that was loyal to Gej is not enough to make Gej to win?
what the heck are you even saying in one paragraph you asked a question and you gave the right answer yourself without knowing it, jeez point is no one can influence the people in the SW as much as you can think, the 3 most influential groups in the SW You just mentioned have being disregarded at one point or the other here, they are not as influential as you may think when it comes to election matters.

Which dominance did Gej secured in the SW? in 2011 you must be living in Paris or Tokyo.

What deal are you even referring to? what transpired in 2011 is well known to everyone, PMB refused to drop pastor Bakare for any ANC candidate, the deal you seem to refer to is that on the icpc, ribadu does not have the mandate of his people, its only natural for tinubu to throw his weight behind Gej or act non chalant like he did after his alliance with cpc fell. Get that fact right and do not distort history.

The talk about Oshiomole second term I know nothing about that, but I know if the election was fair and square, Oshiomole was quite popular then in his 1st term, humiliating Ameachi is part of the reason Gej lost second term all because he can't control his wife, which is very Obvious.

Having militant on payroll, how did that stop the cabal and Turai, there are newspaper excerpts of that time, even social media was vibrant, how many ND leaders or SE leaders were seen on the streets protesting, on news media local and international fighting for Gej, or have you forgotten Ibori and Sylvia were part of the Turai cabal? the two militant Godfathers themselves, so Which militant apart from Dokubo came out? its just 2009/2010 not 1966 people's mind are pretty fresh.

I don't know of the IYC protest you are talking about, when it happened and where it happened, plus how thousands died in bayelsa, delta and rivers, I never heard of it, if it did the UN will be loud about it.
If you are referring to Odi, we never wanted Obj i said it in my earlier post, you guys with your forever Northern Partners voted him in, he is Yoruba we accept but We don't like him in Yoruba land, whatever he did, you guys brought it to yourself not us, so don't put the blame on us.

Please i fail to understand this fallacy, where did the military bombard in the mid 90s Abacha Abdulsalam period, where please? Everyone knows who has being shouting resources control most in any national conference, its the Sw and Ss, but What about the SE av you ever heard of resource control from them?
ADAKA BORRO may his soul rest in peace, thats a fighter not the greedy cultist turned militant we have now who are there just for their own pocket, i assumed you gave Awolowo poison right? or you killed MKO like rat, I clap for you welldone more grease to your elbow, may God reward your ministry.

When i said Gej and his cohorts rubbed us blindly,it means you and me not just Sw or Ss,

I don't understand where you get this lies from? how can A state proposw to build a port and stop it a because it want to appease some other states, does that make any sense to you? according to Akwa statw government work is on going on the project, are you infected with lies?

Benin Ore road serves Ss SE more than it serves the SW, that project started with Anenih he is a SS man, he did nothing, not until Ogunlewe a Yoruba man came on board, that road was supposed to be bigger than that crap they did, Deizeni messed up the plan, compare benin ore road to lagos Ibadan or ibadan Ogbomosho, or roads you see in the Northern parts,

You know nothing about oil exploration, a man used his money to explore for oil found it got a licence to mine it, and you are saying it went on unhindered? please try and find out the story behind Aje oil block, this is not a government funded exploration like they are doing in the chad basin, but Private.

On your last note hate won't take you anywhere, please go and put Tinubu in Jail, point is no single region can rule Nigeria without the help of another, your hate won't take you anywhere, like I said earlier, Yoruba have no time to hate, thry are busy with owanbe party, such a jolly fellows, av a nice day[/s]

Is it this vomit you call a reply?

You're just blabbing without making a point.

Who is even bringing the SE into this discussion. We were solely talking about the SW/SS (/ND) political dog fight and you had to bring SE into the discussion.

Please, eh! Just die this matter. It is obvious you lack the pedigree to discuss this subject intelligently.

Happy Sunday!

-Lord

papiforreal:
Is this guy legit?

Yes.

masseratti:
[s]Please wait ooo, who is insulting people from the Niger delta please? 6 states are in the south West, 4APC 2 PDP, in 2011, 5 out of the 6 states in sw voted for Gej, SW People led the protest to make Gej an acting president while leaders in SS /ND kept quiet, SW has been in the forefront for resource control which will benefit the Niger delta most, while your so Called brothers keep quiet, in the last election the margin between PMB and GEj in sw was 200, 000, with this your post, you are insulting a very large number of people that vote for Gej in the sw whose numbers are more than all the votes he got in Niger delta, oga nobody in sw have time to. Hate anyone based on politics. Gej and his cohorts robbed us all blindly, just like Obj did, please lets leave sentiments aside and face our problems squarely. [/s]

Let Tinubu carry his cross, you can't know him more than his own men, Fashola, Fayemi, Mamora, Amosun and co, he must be doing something wrong, if not they won't turn their back on him, in Yoruba they say ti ogiri o ba ni ila, alangba on kin to run bo, if there is no crack on the wall a lizard will not put his head in it.

If I SLAP You eh! Your shadow go run leave you.

Look at what this MINUS is saying?

In 2011, did GEJ not have a backyard deal with Tinubu that made Tinubu to betray Ribadu? If Tinubu did not have anything to gain why did he betray Ribadu? Or is he a father christmas? In 2015, Did GEJ not make a deal with Afenifere and OPC?

Tinubu is a greedy loaf! Every one knows that.

GEJ secured his dominance in the SW, protected his interests in the SS by letting Oshiomole win a second term, and did not pursue him with the EFCC, and you are here yapping about shi*t. GEJ humiliated Amaechi more than he did Tinubu, do you think he is a fool?

Which SS/ND people kept quiet when SW led protest? We already have militants on our payroll, and the protest was a collective effort by the entire south. It was one of the few times when the unison in the South (something you amnesic lots fail to appreciate) thwarted the sinister plans of the Northern hegemony with Turai at the center.

Which SW has been at the focus of resource control? Why do you guys like distorting history shamelessly?

When the SS started the IYC-led protests and militancy, with resultant oppression from the Nigerian military that resulted in thousands of deaths in Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers, where was the SW?

Saying the SW championed resource control while the SS did nothing is an affront to the thousands that died from the military bombardment and killings in mid to late 90s.

Do you know that the ratification for the 13% derivation was already accepted in 1992 but implementation was delayed?

Do you know who Adaka Borro is? He agitated for ND struggle before Awolowo even committed suicide and MKO was killed like a church rat.

Is it not on record that OBJ, a Yoruba man, sought to commit genocide in Odi, Bayelsa. Has any Fulani man done that to any SS community? Was it not the same OBJ that hammered Alams and Ibori, but shielded Tinubu.

The SS has witnessed more brutality and evil from the hands of the SW than from any other region since time in memorial. Even the North is better than the SW, at least they are easy to read.

GEJ did not rob anyone blindly in the SW. The SW was still the driver of the Nation's economy with Lagos and Ogun leading the fore. Even the proposed sea ports in Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers where kept on hold in a bid to assuage conflicting interests from SW. So, if anyone should be angry at GEJ it should be the SS and SE, not you greedy, entitled, and unappreciative f***kers.

Oil exploration in Lagos went along hitch free, and you guys are now enjoying the 13% derivation that we spilled our blood for.

Benin-ore road was completed and properly maintained. The FG signed off on the loans SW APC states requested without a moment's thought.

So how did GEJ or the SS rub you blindly? If you must show us how you were robbed blindly then also show us how the SS benefited from the robbery.

Recalcitrant juvenile!

Tinubu will carry his own cross! That is assured. There is nothing new under the sun, and like Awolowo, and Abiola before him, he would be taken to the cleaners.

The empty drum makes the loudest noise. The yoruba media has started their fuming, very soon, they'll be cowed like the dogs that they are.

Tinubu will end in jail or worse die if he doesn't sit like a potty-trained puppy and gobble the sh*t he is handed. There is nothing that will change, and Nigeria will not even do a one minute silence for him.

Bloody dispensable riff-raffs feeling important!

Let me hear you talk sh*t about how the SW did the SS any favor or the SS owing the SW any sh*t. We don't owe you guys sh*t!

If anything, you guys are in the same league with the Fulanis as sworn enemies to the SS/SE. We've gotten our six years and we'd sure as hell rather see a SE president, or worse a fulani president than another bast**d from the West.

-Lord

toluxa1:
Abokifx is reporting a big drop in price at the Black market this afternoon.
N475

For those familiar with currency trade, this is a resistance level.

A slight rebound before the big fall. It'll still get to N500 and beyond.

-Lord

onatisi:
In as much as this apc and buhari government stupidity has surpassed my expectations ,I think their cluelessness will bring about greatness to Nigeria In the long run. This terrible tide will gradually push Nigeria towards greatness not because of this government intelligence but of the Nigeria ppl resilience

The emboldened text is the irrepressible truth.

We always overcome.

-Lord