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Griezmann sha!

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Even with payet, Marseille will still lose. Tho they looked like the better team in the first half.

They are the better team. It was as though ATH midfield went on vacation.

Although, it may be because Marseille is physical. None of the top 6 teams in Spain put up physicality in their game. They met their match in that respect.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Seeing payet cry when he got injured against ATM. I wouldn't hide my happiness. Remember when he got CR7 injured in euro 2016 final.

KARMA IS A BITTCH

Literally the only thing I was thinking about. KARMA!

Unfortunately for him, Marseille would most likely lose.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
true. Hope we meet them in super cup. Derby always LIT!!

As in eh.

We are the only team allowed to beat them to a trophy.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Wish you guys the best today.

Yes o.

Domestic rivalry aside. They should bring the Cup back to Madrid. We need to make Madrid the undisputed European Cup Capital.

-Lord

philfearon:
Everybody is here blaming the defence, yet we lost the game because Iniesta played absolute poo last night.
Was he even supposed to start the match? Every counter from his position resulted to a goal... In fact, i don't even blame EV.
Our real woes started when Vermalen was injured. And all you guys saying Pique, Pique was there from goal number 2 -5...

Seriously?

Iniesta!

SMH! Some fans sha...

-Lord

Upnepaa:


They can't score five when messi is on the pitch that's the truth. Messi is Our best attacker and defender combined. With Messi's influence, Our attack would be busy and we would have hit like two to three goals before their onslaught at the start of the second half. There will always be that fear factor when he plays as they won't enjoy much freedom like yesterday ask Sevilla. Our defence was shitty though.

Oooo.

All of this is hypothetical anyway, so you are about as right as I am. We'd never know.

That said, if you guys genuinely believe that Messi not playing a match can lead to conceding 5 goals, then you should be worried because he'd be missing a lot more matches in the future.

-Lord

jonsnow92:
With Messi on the pitch, Levante players won't come all out attack, at least they would have put 1 or 2 players on Messi, talkies of scoring 5 solid goals.

They knew that front line had no one really to fear, it wasn't until Phil began to pull the strings after they scored 5 goals that they began placing players on him.. Suarez is just useless.

Go watch the match again, Levante did not commit a lot of men up front to score the goals. They played like a European heavyweight. Few men upfront had a few opportunities and buried the chances like they were in a training session. The slick passing, the runs, and they missed chances too.

They played like ninjas, the transition from attack to defense and vice versa was exemplary.

-Lord

tesppidd:
Yes it's very possible we could have lost even with Messi on the field.

But my point is that defence always starts with attack.

Think about it for a minute, with Messi maybe maybe maybe the attack could have been different and levante wouldn't have had that flurry of early chances.

It's not like big teams don't get outplayed with their best players on, but it becomes a rarity.

Madrid lose when Ronaldo is on, but it's rare.

I agree it is a possibility, but it could also have been worse since Messi doesn't help defensively. What if it turned out to be Messi's off day like at Roma.

IMO, the biggest mistake EV made was not putting Messi on the bench as a precaution. There's no excuse for not putting him on the bench.

Game was 5-4 for 20 minutes. If Messi had come in with Barca clearly in the driving seat, it'd most likely have been like the Sevilla draw or even a win.

That said, it was a bad day for you guys. Whichever way you guys take it, you'd have conceded several goals.

Levante came for the win, which is uncharacteristic of bottom clubs when playing Barca. They're in red hot form. Then with Umtiti injured (he'd been playing like sh*t before his injury tho'), EV was stuck with Mina, Pique, and Vermaelen in the CB position. All 3 played, Levante scored anyway.

-Lord

tesppidd:
I get your point but

It is very relevant.

Messi's barca was supposed to go the season unbeaten.
But the team put out last night let him down.

I am very convinced that if Messi was playing yesterday the levante attack would have been curtailed a bit, knowing the danger before them.

And am also sure with Messi it wouldn't have gotten to 5-1 at a point.

He did excellent but was Coutinho sleeping when we fell behind by 5 fuccking goals to one?

Levante took virtually all their chances.

They were in form and their efficiency was unprecedented.

Messi wouldn't have stopped them from taking their chances because he is a defensive liability.

Coutinho wasn't sleeping, you guys were lucky the blocks led to on-target deflections. Even his first goal was from a poor clearance.

You guys are talking as if teams haven't outplayed you guys this season with Messi on the pitch. The difference is that while other teams were inefficient in front of goal, Levante were efficient. Thanks to them being in form... and Mina.

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usbcable:
At least FC Messi is still unbeaten.
That should count for something

Ouch!

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Levante almost spoilt my night

No mind them.

5:1 scoreline would have been perfect.

-Lord

Neimar:
e nr go funny for dix place if Madrid nr win d ucl

Kpele!

How is your chest doing you?

Una thread don turn club wia we dey show style steady. Instead of una to lose to us jejelly mk e 4 b say na top 4 team break the record, na Levante wen manage escape relegation nai humble una. See as Boateng use una tk score e first hattrick.

Next season no go funny for una.

-Lord

How it feels when a bottom half club play a league game like a cup final.

Did you guys forget to pay the ref?

-Lord

Miremoses1:
no one is blaming bale for benz misfortune in front of goal. But one thing is for sure, apart from goals. Benz brings balance in the team more than bale,that's why zizou prefers to play him ahead of bale.

You're conflating things.

Bale scores, assists, create chances, defends.

Benzema assists and create chances.

But by someone's logic here Bale's "underperformance" should be called to question and Benzema should be given a pass because he "does more than scoring."

It's double standard. Then the same person turns around and say it's not a Bale-Benzema discourse. It's not a Bale-Benze discourse or comparison but you're trying to convince us that Benzema's 5 goals in La Liga is "productive" output, but Bale's 13 goals is stat-padding.

I'm not even going to talk about the "balance" point because it is very subjective.

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Miremoses1:
the earlier we stop relying on Benz to score tons of goals, the better for all of us.

Personally, I don't have qualms with Benzema. He does what he can when he can. If Isco hadn't stuck out his leg in a moment of lack of concentration yesterday, Benz would have had a goal. And for all he has done for the club, he deserves to bow out gracefully.

But what I wouldn't take is doing that at the expense of another player. Trying to scapegoat Bale while trying to give Benzema a pass is just a low blow.

-Lord

usbcable:


So who is now the scorer to be blamed when we don't get goals?
Mayoral or Bale or Vasquez or Asensio?

Common...all these guys track back to defend and.make runs at goal and being deadly too.

When last has Benz holding the ball been a deadly scenario to you the spectator talkless of the on field players

It's almost as if Benzema just became a playmaker this year. Like he wasn't making incisive passes and more for years now.

If what he's doing is enough, then why are we about to break records for a consistent goal scorer? Do Icardi or Kane playmake better than Benzema?

But Bale is the issue. Bale who didn't return until December when the League was already out of sight. It's Bale who should have performed better despite scoring twice more goals than the "main striker" in less minutes.

So Bale was stat padding. Why is Benzema not stat padding as well? Since it's so easy.

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Miremoses1:
we no longer see Benz as a scorer, that's why we don't blame him for lack of goals any more. After all, he has become a prolific 10.

Fair enough. So why would anyone decide to take a cheap shot at the second highest goal scorer on the team. It's almost like holding two players to different standards.

Benzema has always been an amazing playmaker. However, he also carried out his primary task in the past. Score goals. Now he has abdicated that primary task. And yet when Bale picks that tab, some begin to act like it's division of labor. No it isn't. Benzema should not have 5 goals in the league. Playmaking or no playmaking.

Peeps should stop confusing loyalty for free pass.

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hardeycute:
His passing, chances created

Like what? Losing possessions?
Not defending?

This is not a Bale-Benzema discourse

Really? "Not defending."

Seriously, I give up. Why do you have to make things up just to berate Bale.

Bale has created as many chances as Benzema in La Liga with fewer matches.

It's not a Bale-Benzema discourse, but you're trying to say he's not doing enough and at the same making excuses for Benz.

Wow!

Someone really said Bale doesn't defend.

-Lord

hardeycute:
Can you try to understand the origin of the argument?

https://www.nairaland.com/924289/real-madrid-fans-thread-back/452#67507284

No one is giving excuses for Benzema except if we are making one for the Welshman

Where did i made mention of letting Benz to continue and not sign any attackers?

Why would anyone talk about Bale's performance during CR7's bad run?

For one he was still injured at the beginning of the season, and whenever he came in later on, he played fewer minutes for protection reasons.

Virtually every player except Navas takes flak for the beginning of the season, why are you bringing up a player who barely played then and trying to compare him to a "main striker" who he outperformed resoundingly with fewer minutes.

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hardeycute:
I do not expect Benzema to give me what he does not have.Everyone knows he does more than scoring

How many goals did Bale add to his tally in dead rubber games? and how many did he score when the team is already 2/3/4 goals up.

You were the one who talked about what ought instead of what is.

No one is asking you to spare Benzema, only if you would not make Bale's low performance, the team's fault

What exactly do you mean by doing more than scoring?

Bale also does more than scoring.

You were asked a simple question, how many points did Benzema's goals in La Liga help us get? Answer it, before you retort with a Bale stat-padding accusation.

And while you're at it, kindly tell us what Benzema's primary purpose on the team is?

-Lord

usbcable:
We all love CR but one day he will leave.

Even before he leaves he will get injured.
Who do you prefer staying a holding play striker or the one that actually scores.

It's not only about leaving or injury. The GOAT doesn't play a lot of games anymore. And that's never going to change, in fact, it'd get fewer.

So we need someone who'd be able to step-up to fill the scoring void. Benzema is simply not that person.

He combines well, passes well, has terrific vision, but he's a 10-15 goal per season player now. Not the 25-30 goal per season main striker RM need. He has scored the same number of goals as Asensio this year.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Kovacic, mayoral, ceballos, llorente, casilla, Archraf and Theo might leave at the end of the season. Loan or full transfer.

They should remove Kovacic from that list. I think Ceballos should stay too. Well, it appears our summer will be busy.

-Lord

mediclife1987:


We're talking about skilled effort not just any effort okay? They're different.

Better drop it. Mining, stone masonry, glass blowing, et al also count as "skilled efforts..." You guys have this irritating habit of denigrating other professions to make yours better. What next, doctors should earn more than entertainment stars?

How can smart people lack common sense?

-Lord

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Miremoses1:
with carvajal, hakimi won't get more minutes. He has to leave on a loan deal. It will do him good.

Sure, a loan deal will do him good. Carvajal went on loan as well to develop. The question really is if he goes, who'd deputize for Carvajal? Carvajal plays too many games and often takes a knock at the end of the season. Vallejo and Varane are glasses, so having just Nacho to fill in for both RB and CB is not an okay risk.

Maybe he should stay and like Varane develop with the team. Hakimi should exclusively be used in games where we'd dominate and would not really be tasked defensively, so his pace up front is deadly and his defensive naivety is less costly. This would boost his confidence. He is 19 and going to a World Cup and is likely to play all 3 group stage matches.

I believe if we sort out our attack next season, it'd be sufficient to cover our frailties at the back.

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hardeycute:
Benzema has been like this for more than 2yrs and last season we won a double,did he do more than this?

Pls sir. Tell us how many goals has Bales scored this season.
Or sir. Who is the second highest scorer of the team.
Or sir. how many full minutes or matches has Bale played this season compared to other team mates. And while at it tell us the goal and assist ratio of this e other strikers and attacking midfieldersHis total goals, goal ratio is what has deceived you.

Even his lesser mins is caused by bad performance which give no other option but the Coach to make in match tactical switch


Vs Valencia - 2points
Vs Levante - 2points
Vs Real Betis - 3points
Vs Villarreal- 3points
Vs Levante - 2 points
Vs Espanyol - 3points = 15points

Can you tell us how many points his goal won for the team

SMH!

It's now time to defend Benzema's poor scoring shey.

Benzema in La Liga -- 1820 minutes, 37 chances created, 5 goals scored
Bale in La Liga -- 1458 minutes, 37 chances created, 11 goals scored

That's the way Benzema was the main striker last year, but Morata outscored him. Yet, you want to chalk last season's trophies to Benzema's productivity. Mayoral has played far less minutes than Benzema yet Benzema has 11 goals in total versus his 9.

But when all fails, blame the coach.

Okay o. By your logic, for next season, we should sell Bale, keep Benzema, and not sign anyone up front since Benzema can help us win 2 trophies. After all, Bale was injured for the most part of last year. How many Ayes do I get?

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koice:


It's mind boggling how Quantico survived this long tbh. This show proved to me that the concept behind lazy writing isn't a myth - low effort, high reward.

Kaziar:

Quantico has topped the list of my least favorite shows since it first premiered. I actually gave it a life span of a single season, was surprised when it got renewed twice when its ratings were not even that impressive.

No sh*t.

I at least tried to trudge through Designated Survivor S1. I couldn't even get to the second episode of Quantico. I'm thinking diversity and demographics was the primary reason why they kept it on for two more undeserved seasons.

I typically do not like raining on the parade of series that I don't like. But Quantico was so awful, I was bothered about it eating the time slot that should have been used for another show.

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DABMarkNig2019:

You're running away because it's an insult to you having consultant pharmacists. I can assure you that you'll kill yourself when you get to work with consultant pharmacists in the place you're running to.
I do wonder why these doctors think that specialisation is an exclusive preserve of medical sciences. For those that care to know, there are also many area of speciality in pharmacy practice.

Don't mind them. They'd be behaving like touts in Nigeria, when they move abroad and see the same consultant pharmacists et al they were insulting back home, they'd keep shut. Consultant Pharmacists and Consultant Doctors in the UK are on the same band 9. When it's proposed here, they throw tantrums like kids who've had their lollipops taken.

I understand them trying to protect their profession, but good Lord do they go about it in the most reprehensible way possible.

-Lord

MrBigiman:


I still wonder too why doctors who are extremely smart remain in this shithole. Someone said most politicians running to the UK get there and end up seeing the same Nigerian GP they are running away from. But this time they pay heavily to access them. To young doctors, run away from this shit hole. Consultancy has been approved for Pharmacist, and the question is after heavy, tasking, excruciating residency with a lost social life and and injure psychology, one profession think getting to a certain level in Civil service gives them the right to become consultant and earn the same pay with those who have laid down their lives, youth and pleasure so others can be safe.

You guys should stop this senseless debate.

The average IQ of commenters on this thread is several base points higher than the average Nigerian. Act like it.

There are Consultants in most major health professionals in the UK (Pharmacy, Radiography et cetera). And doctors don't all earn the same salaries. Anesthesiologists earn more than GPs. I don't get this selective importation of UK norms. Like law, medicine in Nigeria is modeled like that in the UK.

You guys complain over everything. You talk about the wage structure abroad, then conveniently ignore the fact that doctors don't run hospitals abroad.

If you want to discuss the merits of a position, do so coherently, as I'm sure you guys are able to do. This cheap nonsense you guys are engaging in is irritating. If you say consultant pharmacists are redundant, then you must explain why, when they certainly have a place in the UK (the UK you guys are falling over yourselves to enter).

If it's by effort, miners would earn more than investment bankers.

-Lord

First off, I should say I regularly decry the despicable compensation health workers in general get in this country. From personal experience not hearsay.

That said, Nigeria is a developing country and salaries will not be the same as over the shores. Not for a very long time.

Taxi drivers in Cuba earn more than doctors. Many folks in the freelancer section on NL earn more than doctors in several Eastern European countries (Poland, Austria... I'm talking countries with 24/7 power, world class health facilities, and excellent living conditions).

Before you ask what doctors (health practitioners in general) are still doing in Nigeria, ask yourself the cost of an ultrasound in Nigeria and compare it to the price of an ultrasound in US/CA/UK/AU.

If you want to practice outside. Go! I'm the last person who'd tell you to stay. But those who stay are the real MVPs. We shouldn't start deriding them for their (I should say) ill-advised choice to remain in this god-forsaken country where they are underappreciated.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
and asensio cost just £3m. Dembele can't even lace his boots

And we got Vazquez for 1m euros.

I wonder why we reply these braindead cules sef.

-Lord