₦airaland Forum

Businessideas:
I'm sure you can do better than this. Why not take a trip to Gbaramotu and give our soldiers this sermon.
You are destroying our national asset because Jonathan lost an election and you want the government to remain helpless?

ihatebuhari:
God bless Niger Delta


We gonna stand our ground, buhari can't win this war

“I am looking at the soldiers from a hideout in the bush, they are going from house to house. We know their tactics, so we ran away when they landed this morning at the jetty in the town, belonging to Tompolo’s father,” an informant told Vanguard on phone at about 5.30am.

sweetgala:
[s]Why are you wailing like a castrated goat. I'll like to remind you that the NA army is a serious unit now and I would also alert you to the fact that IOC like BP which is owned by Britain and Holland with large government stake , Exxon , Shell etc have lost assets and are losing money as we speak in their Nigerian installations.

They have two options

- Sell their assets which is very difficult at the moment
- Execute the security of their installations.

Abeg if you are in NDA go and repent because there wouldn't be any ICC or human rights commission to come bail you out. Terrorism is a crime and NDA are involved in an act of terrorism. [/s]

sweetgala:
You have me here both stunned and amused. Very amused if I must say so.

Dude buhari would wipe the whole SS and no one would bar an eyelid.

The NA is uncivil is the first statement you made and I made up my mind;you are a tout and poorly educated one at that. Saying you are a lawyer in Nigeria is like a dime a dozen all this American tv series movies you watch and too much Sapele water is not good for your mental state.

mayorchelsea:
All this epistle just to justify how The West remove leaders who don't support their interest.If Nigeria was like Libya under Gaddaffi in terms of social amenities and benefits, we wouldn't be having these issuse we cry about everyday.What happened in Libya,Iraq,Afghanistan,Syria etc has nothing to do with human right has you have been 'brainwashed' to believe by their media and tabloids. It has only given birth to terrorism and you know it.

sweetgala:
ICC has no problem with the Nigerian state defending strategic facilities and human lives where they have been endangered by said NDA who have openly declared “war“ on the Nigerian atate. Under UN rules of engagement that are fair game.

However the human rights issue have been with extra judicial killings of arrested combatants which would fall into same concerns as civil deaths in police custody, so you are the ICC can not defend a case as cocerns the death of enemy combatants who are evidently armed, motivated to have and Will endanger the Nigerian state,it's property and people

mrkayusfit:
. U have not made a single sense on your several post on this thread. Smh

tsdarkside:
adult...see who dey mention adult...look even at your moniker...how many monikers do you have on nairaland?,?...

tahhh...i dont like people that always change their moniker...childish...

tsdarkside:
you wailers are finish...we declare absolute mental-war on you`s!!!!!!!!¨....
you will not get nothing from us anymore,even after buhari is gone....


ss is been destroyed...next is the se......

nigeria will stay one..and you will stay a poor slums of nigeria.....so be it!!!...

ThundrCork:
You have a good point there. But, how do you deal with a group that is bent on secession? if you were the president, would you like secession to happen in your administration? Even when Nigeria was benefiting from over $100 dollar per barrel it was still difficult to meet up with the financial demands of the country. With secession, there is no doubt, it will result to brutal suffering for the north because their area of strength which is Agriculture is weak. There is no other way PMB could have done it other than with force especially when the reserve has dwindled so low. leakage or waste can not be tolerated at this time especially if you are determined to make corrections. If i were president i would do what PMB is doing only that my entire cabinet would not be politicians but young and sound technocrats who are well traveled and exposed

LordAdam:
You seem to forget what today's date is?

Al-Bashir is fighting for his seat of power because he killed defenseless civilians (He is only still there because of Russia, Buhari does not have that kind of backing).

Gadaffi was sodomized with a knife at the end because he used brute force on protesters and put off negotiations.

The time of impunity is over. Al-Bashir and Gadaffi have leveled entire communities in their domains before when they defied their government and got away with it. Why did things change recently and they are paying/paid with their nose?

'Odi' cannot happen again in 2016. Buhari would not get away with it, like OBJ did because the times have changed.

The US government jailed US soldiers that killed Talibans and urinated on their bodies. US Soldiers that kill indiscriminately on official duty face court martial. The West do not level communities to make a statement.

Mubarak was a friend of the West. He made a peace deal with Israel to the chagrin of fellow Middle-Eastern countries. He placed Egypt in NATO and America sold F-16 fighter jets to the Egyptian Air Force. That did not stop the West from calling for his head.

The West owes Buhari nothing. He is dispensable. There are thousands of people that can replace him without hurting Western interests.

If the West can watch as Libya becomes a cesspit of war and violence barely years after they pushed for closer ties with Gaddaffi, they can take out Buhari via any means necessary without so much as a pip.

Do you know that Philip Anthony Hammond, current UK Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, warned Buhari about taking military action against the militants? http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/05/uk-warns-buhari-using-military-confrontation-in-niger-delta-could-end-in-disaster/

UK and France were the first guys to start enforcing the no-fly zone in Libya and pushed and paid for the successful Libya rebel fighting. In fact the guy who killed Gadaffi is believed to be a French agent.

The Daily Mail of the UK is already stoking anti-Buhari sentiments in the UK populace and the fantastically corrupt tag by Cameron does not make things anything better than they are already.

-Lord

mrkayusfit:
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Bullshitt. Even the United States with it's self acclaimed human rights record uses the term "collateral damage" to categorize the victims of bombardment like we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan. If the federal government is pushed to the wall, they will go for the last option which is brute force. All the amnesty international of this world will only publish human rights abuses in their hypocritical manner like they always do. Nothing will happen to buhari. Obasanjo is eating pounded yam and pammy in otta at the moment despite leveling Odi and his contributions in the civil war. Yakubu gowon is still a free man despite commanding the armed forces that fought the civil war with video evidences of troops atrocities scattered on YouTube. What has your almighty ICC done to them both?? You don't seem to understand international politics and diplomacy. Lauren Gbagbo and Charles Taylor went against the wishes of the west and the result was their trial and subsequent jail terms in hague. Buhari is an ally of the west and he has proven to be a man capable to tackle the malady of the Nigerian state so he enjoys their support.

theV0ice:
And you typed this with any iota of sense? What's pinching your scrotum so much you can't reply a post without getting into a frenzy?? Shut up next time if you can't match the civility of my post.




And you were blind to see that it was the hatred factor I was concerned about?

Soyinka refused to support the looting of the country by GEJ and his minions, how is that a crime?




And he had no right to make the u-turn? Were GEJ's antecedents as a weakling, mediocre waster not clear from his days in bayelsa and Turai's kitchen?

Did you blame Soyinka for supporting him then instead of prof Pat Utomi who was also a candidate?




And your GEJ was a dangote in his native bayelsa right? Is it anybody's fault that your GEJ was too weak to even control his own own home talk less a govt?

GEJ lost the elections and no amount of crying will change it.




How else do you wish to be told that anyone, any one at all was better than the weakling we had in ado rock then?

Its an indictment on GEJ that his story as an "ineffectual buffoon" made a buhari presidency attractive.




I guess GEJ who also called BH his siblings was protecting them hence the inability of the army to crush them then? Hope you won't protest if I insist modu sheriff is the acclaimed founder and financier of BH? What does that say about GEJ? Yet he is the same Chairman of GEJ and others today and would become their presidential candidate in 2019!!

Also, try get your facts right before ranting next time. Buhari was never oil minister to the most corrupt military regime. A regime that even GEJ has now surpassed in infamy.




When you take over from govts like shagari and GEJ, the economy must have problems. Weaklings who should never have been given the headship of town unions controlling the destinies of millions is always an aberration. Thank God we kicked them out.

Buhari was oil minister under that same OBJ prosperous regime you just eulogised.




Just as Donald Duke and even Peter Odili were better as VP in 2007 yet the gods picked a weakling. Just as Pat Utomi or Ribadu would have been better than GEJ in 2011. Just as Sule Lamido or even Atiku would have done better than GEJ in 2015.

Its to the shame of GEJ that Nigeria and the international community had no choice but to call up a retired soldier to come clear his mess.

If your girlfriend or wife starts eyeing your Gateman, its not the girl's or the Gateman's fault. You've become useless is the reason.




And you that assumed GEJ was the best the PDP had to offer is the intelligent one? You that believed a man who spent 8 years in bayelsa executive with nothing to show would make a good president is the one that is intelligent?

You that assumed a Phd holder who was a peer to Idi Amin in financial management was the best for Nigeria is now the intelligent one?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/196901-jonathan-ran-cbn-like-idi-amin-soludo.html




I agree. Anyone who didn't see this economy becoming like this is a F00L!

Anyone who assumes the economy will not suffer from the past govts pillaging, looting and wastages even with warnings from NOI is indeed an irredeemable F00L!

https://www.naij.com/454123-okonjo-iweala-warns-successor-of-difficult-times.html

http://newsrescue.com/broken-looted-economy-get-ready-suffering-ngozi-iweala-tells-nigerians/#axzz47CTi4cqr

https://www.naij.com/433579-nigeria-borrows-money-to-pay-govt-salaries.html

Finally, anyone who believes a govt that couldn't manage wealth will be able to manage lean times is an hopeless F00L!!





If its against the GEJ of 2015, even the devil should fancy his chances

theV0ice:
You didn't answer my question which was "expatiate on why you think Soyinka hated GEJ"?

If you could tell why you think that, it would make it easier to put your post which contains a lot of truth in proper perspective. However would it have been better if Aso rock continued to have Yoruba as lingual franca? Is it more appropriate to have ijaw as the official language? When will it be the turn of berom?

Why didn't we even vote Prof Pat Utomi in 2011 instead of mediocre(to use your words) GEJ?

Soyinka condemned OBJ in his book " You must set forth at dawn" published when OBJ was still President and he described him as devious. He condemned buhari in that same book. He fought for GEJ to be made acting President when most of those in PDP were wining and dining with Turai. The bottom line is that the old man has a right to change his stance and if you read him all through that period, you'd have heard him say how difficult it was to even look favourably in buhari's direction.

I, like Soyinka, believe we would have been in a worse situation politically, economically and security wise if GEJ had continued. Its a choice Soyinka was perfectly entitled to make.

How would you ensure an Hausa Fulani never get to aso rock again in a democracy with universal adult suffrage?

seunlayi:
He should fly to the middle east and interven asap

aresa:
I did not reiterate any of you pointless and absurd views. The fact that majority or no majority FG roads are tolled or not doesn't mean any in the China funded projects are going to be tolled or not tolled hence allowing the government to articulate on the subject.

Unless otherwise stated or not stated is still not any reason to assume anything.

It is not fair to assume anything, assumptions kills..




The government paying back and and China collecting tolls from Nigerians are 2 different things.. We collect and pay them out of what we collect.

We did not make the same point, you said China will collect money from Nigerians and I corrected, because the only thing China is due for is scheduled loan payments and not our tolled money. The state metro agency is responsible for toll collection and out of that




The government paying back and and China collecting tolls from Nigerians are 2 different things.. We collect and pay them out of what we collect.




Very laughable especially coming from your assumptions and opinion riddled posts..

You really are a waste of time..

theV0ice:
That's good to know. Pls keep it up.




This years budget is having a deficit of N2.2T which translates to &11B but not all are going to be from external creditors. Internal instruments would be sold to also raise cash. The govt has said this repeatedly and I'm shocked that you of all people are ignorant of this. Even if IMF was going to give us a loan, they weren't planning on more than $3.5B.

Why buhari will want to avoid cash is simple and should be clear to you my friend. Nigerians will chop the money if you allow them. But with a foreign partner playing a major role beyond financing in the projects, you can have some level of confidence in deliverability.

Ask yourself why NLNG works but NAFCON is dead and NNPC is just a devourer and cankerworm in the nation's finances? The simple answer is that partners run the NLNG while Nigerians were solely in charge of the others.

We don't need to get all the money to run the budget today or does FIRS need to get all their projected revenue in the bank before the budget is passed? Buhari wants to use the deficit for only capital projects and as we proceed, more avenues will open up.

He might be wrong eventually but how will we know if he doesn't try?

theV0ice:
Lord gawd!! For someone of your level to delve into insults on someone without provocation is horrifying.

Show me what was wrong with what I said in my first post which you replied that warranted insults?

theV0ice:
A simpler query for you, are you a slowpoke?

Were you dropped on your head at birth?

So he shouldn't have taken the offer of $6B investments?

We need investments to address our infrastructure deficit you certified dunce and partnerships of this nature are the way to go.

Apostle of idiocy, try and learn!!

aresa:
You have zero idea per what's going to be tolled or not until it's built and the government comes out with policy statements on the projects and how to pay for them.. Stop assuming based on what's not set in stone at the moment..







China is not collecting tolls, they are funding the project and they get back loan payments based on whatever agreed upon payments and payment schedule, the state's Metro Rail governing authority is tasked with toll collection.

The Metro Rail system can pay off the loan in little or no time based on the number of potential passengers available in Lagos state. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of passengers or even millions daily. Multiply average ticket of N300 by at least 500,000 per day x per month. That's billions per day and several billions per month.

So please tell us how hard it's going to be to service or pay off this loan in little or no time?..

This project is set to be the largest money making infrastructure in Nigeria and after paying off the loan, all the billions per month goes into the pocket of the people of Lagos state which means a cash cow to fund other major projects within the state including extending the project to every corner of Lagos state..

And let's not even get into the other benefits from less cars on the road, reduction in noise, fumes and other forms of environmental pollution..




Your views like mine and others in this thread are all based on insinuations and personal opinions since we don't have detailed policies or analysis by the government so you have zero rights or any form of moral authority to question other people's views..

theV0ice:
Do you need special notification to know that the railways and power projects are not for charity?

Are you assuming that Nigerian citizens and coporate bodies who use them will do so free of charge?

Do you know the airport modifications of Stella Oduah were financed with loans from this same China? Did you have reservations about those too?

slydog:
Dude, it's not a loan, that explains the absence of the finance minister and the presence of the investment minister. The money is coming in as Chinese investment in which they will recoup by way of tolls. The investments proposed are going into revenue generating infrastructure, which even the government doesn't pay, rather we all pay by joining the train services

divinehand2003:
Forbes got it all mixed up.
-First of all it's not a loan, but it's an investment. Both parties are doing business together.

-Secondly, it's not $2 billion, but it's $6 billion investment package, and the various items and projects for which this cash would be spent on is properly highlighted.

So Nigerians, should we rather sit on the fence and do nothing waiting for manna to fall from above? No, half bread is better than not.


We must do something now.

gabbytabby:
Agents of destruction would destroy their father's house and then go to church on Sunday for breakthrough.

May God reward us all according to the thoughts in our hearts for our neighbours and our country.