TenQ: Too bad you don't understand this and you are 99% of the time wasting everyones time on the Religious section of Nairaland. Have you ever thought of this? What are you doing here?
Is there need for further explanation?
And that's why I said: Only a Liar or an incredibly dumb adult will not understand this concept.
I posted links to show you this is a recent development. Going forward however my discussions on the subject will be very limited.
TenQ: Only a Liar or an incredibly dumb adult will not understand this concept.
You have conveniently put yourself in one of these two categories!
I don't understand what a god is so I don't understand how it has any attributes or performs any actions. You can either choose to engage me based on that or believe it indicates anything you like.
TenQ: It is actually a dodge as I am not asking you about the Christian God or any particular God except that God as the title of the sole Creator of the Universe.
You don't have to agree with the concept of God (this is not the purpose of the question)
1. You understand the concept of God as the Creator of everything
It's not is not a question of agreement. I just told you the concept of what a god is, any type of god, has eluded my understanding.
TenQ: Let me test your sincerity Which of these do you align with 1. You understand the concept of God as the Creator of everything 2. You have studied to some extent arguments for and against this concept of God 3. You have concluded from your studies that the evidence FOR God is not convincing enough
Are These three TRUE about you?
Neither. Increasingly the concept of what a god is has become incoherent and ambiguous to my understanding. Because of this unravelling, I can no longer give credence to any other question based on it while the concept of what a god is remains unresolved.
TenQ: You already have enough knowledge to reject the idea of the existence of God: therefore , it is a question you need to ask yourself and not me how you came to such a conclusion.
This is why you are ALWAYS predictably against the idea of having a God that you can't help to "derogatively" type "god" instead of "God" !
I said I don't have sufficient knowledge but you say I do so show me how I have sufficient knowledge to reject the existence of a god.
God is a title or the label for a category and as far as I am aware there is no sufficient knowledge to capitalise that title or label for any being. If you see that as derogatory then that is your own bias not mine.
TenQ: You have enough knowledge to reject the idea of the existence of a God while taking the stance of insufficient evidence as the primary excuse.
Let me give you an example: Tinubu is being encouraged by the West and primarily France to invade Niger Republic and Repace the coup plotters. They give motivating reasons why Nigeria should do so: 1. Nigeria is far more richer than Niger republic 2. Nigeria has a far much bigger Army 3. Nigerian Army is better trained and highly professional unlike the Nigerien Army. 4. France will support Nigeria with arms and ammunition for the exercise President Tinubu even with these looked at Russia-Ukraine war and decides that these reasons are NOT overwhelming enough for Nigeria to take the risk
Thus, Tinubu claims (Just like you) "I lack belief in INVADING Niger Republic because I do not have sufficient knowledge to form such a belief"
Tell me, is Tinubu's decision from a Positive BELIEF or from a Negative BELIEF or from Lack of BELIEF ?
How do I have enough knowledge to reject the idea of the existence of a god?
If you don't know a hoot about Arsenal Nor anything about the UEFA or English Premiership Cups and someone asks you the question: LordReed, do you BELIEVE Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups?
Your answer would Be: I DON'T KNOW as I LACK the information to take any position of beliefs (positive or negative) on Arsenal, UEFA cup or Premiership Cup!
But once you say I don't know BUT Arsenal cannot Win, you've already taken a position of knowledge and therefore you do NOT Lack a Belief!
It is simple my dear!
So what problem do you have with the statement "I lack belief in a god because I do not have sufficient knowledge to form such a belief"?
TenQ: If you have taken your decision and position based on your knowledge of the subject then you cannot lack a belief on the subject. You can only have 1. A Positive Affirming Belief OR 2. A Negative Rejecting Belief
So you agree that my position of perfect ignorance contains no belief?
TheSourcerer: I decided to write this after the sad news of Christains been "persecuted " by the Hindus in "remote" parts , I mean why? This thing keeps happening, and sadly this will not be the last case as its a cyclical paradox , Why this battle for a God we know nothing about , we did not learn about pain! If you get a new born infant and toss it into a pan of hot grandnut oil , we all can imagine what would happen ? So why is the knowledge of the love or existence of One True God be Learned? We clearly didn't learn about pain did we, but a God who did create "Heaven" and "Earth", knew us before we were "born" , we should at least has a sort of decorum at this point on who he look likes and the religion he "listens" to .
This is an #Unharmful Question, I did not insult your loved one nor intimidate you in any way , Good Morning and have a lovely day ahead
Yeah, I am beginning to lean more to the position that the word god has no coherent and unambiguous definition. God to a Christian is not the same as god to the Hindu.
You have tried. At least better than Buda and Mainman.
There exist just FOUR Possible positions anyone can take 1. Position of Perfect Knowing Examples : *I know that 2+16=18 *I know that Bola Ahmed Tinubu is the President of Nigeria This is a position of certainty. You don't even need to believe because you know
2. Position of Positive Imperfect Knowledge Examples : *I believe that Nigeria would still be great *I belief that Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups *I believe in one Deity This position of belief is positive because you have reasons based on your limited knowledge to take such an optimistic position
3. Position of Negative Imperfect Knowledge Examples : *I do NOT believe that the Nigerian Judiciary is impartial *I do NOT believe that Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups *I do not believe in ANY Deity
This position of belief is negative because you have reasons based on your limited knowledge to take such a negative optimistic position
4. Position of Ignorance and lack of Knowledge Examples : *I lack a belief that the planet Jumongo's core contain molten iron *I lack a belief that the square root of 865,234,638,124,879,007 gives the surface area of Pluto in meter square.
The position of ignorance does not take any position positive or negative. He just doesn't have enough knowledge or information to believe or disbelieve a position. This one is a position of PERFECT AGNOSTICISM!
Like , With respect to Religion or Deities, *A Baby is a perfect Agnostics *A dog is a Perfect Agnostics With respect to Science The uneducated Farmer in the village is perfectly agnostic to believing that the Equation E=mc^2 is a True statement.
The problem with even those who call themselves Agnostics is that they have taken a NON-NEUTRAL position BY taking a position of knowledge.
You said : I lack the belief that Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups because I do not have sufficient knowledge to form such a belief. If this was true, then you cannot argue FOR or AGAINST the fact that Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups
Once you take ANY position, it means you actually have sufficient knowledge to take take such position.
What position did I take with regards to Arsenal winning both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups?
TenQ: 4. Apart from the subject of Deity or God/gods, give me an example of something else you lack a belief in and state WHY you lack a belief? in such?
Thanks
I lack the belief that Arsenal will win both the UEFA and English Premiership Cups because I do not have sufficient knowledge to form such a belief.
tonicyril: Doctor in the house please help. For the past 7 or 8 months now I have bn having this serious rashes on my body, fully concentrated on my genitals and my inner laps those I am feeling the tingling sensation all over my body but that of my laps and genitals are unbearable.
Now I don't wear boxers again else I will regret my decision, even without wearing the boxer I am always in pains and feel uneasy as I always scratch my body every minute.
The tins shows on my body like I am having measles but it's not measles
I have gone to our local doctor he prescribed drugs for me but it did not go, I went to the chemist I usually patronise and she sold drugs to me, now I use to buy the drugs every weeks still this tin refuses to go. My woman called another nurse of her, she prescribed an injection for me and my woman, each injection is 14k, now I have bought two of it yet the symptoms persists
What do I use pls, doctor in the house.
Now I can't stay for 10sec without scratching my body as I use to feel the tingling and biting sensation all over my body..pls help me
Sounds like herpes. Go to a hospital to get a proper diagnosis.
TenQ: It didn't dawn on you that the Ants simply are using the carcass as their only machine! ?
#They accounted for the center of gravity of the carcass. #They turned the carcass into a lever. #At a point they made the carcass into a compound pendulum. #They computed the impulse and how many Ants would be required to hold the carcass when it swings
You see why I shake my head at you?
So if I use my fingers to dig the ground it is also engineering wisdom?
Nataliace: The younger brother to my husband occasionally comes to visit us. My husband takes good care of him and support his business dealings.
He trusts his brother that he can travel for weeks leaving us together.
Recently my brother in-law's movement towards me changed.
He sometimes rub his hands on my back as if he was just being friendly. He made strange and unusual move towards me several times and I was uncomfortable with that.
I warned him that if he doesn't stop I will report to my husband.
My husband travelled last week and his brother has begun his behaviors of unexpectedly touching my body and showing up in my room or just following me to the kitchen whenever I am preparing meal.
I thought of reporting to his brother but I don't want to be the reason they will be enemies for life.
How do I stop him so this remain between two of us?
This is sincerely becoming unbearable.
Better tell your husband before the brother changes the narrative that you are the one trying to seduce him.
1. The ants found a dead wall gecko the size of each ant relative to the wall gecko is at least 1:1000 2. The Ants had their destination as INSIDE the flowerpot 3. Lifting the Gecko up the wall of the flower pot was a tall order which required a lot of coordination, cooperation, dedication and strength. 4. Unfortunately, the pot had a rim that curved out and down through which they need to navigate UPSIDE-DOWN with the heavy load (which would have been an impossibility) 5. They figured out somehow under the rim to carry ONLY the lighter tail first under the flower pot rim to the top. 6. When those assigned to the task succeeded, the other Ants let go of the main body of the Gecko 7. The moment of truth came as the main gecko body swung Freely by its tail 8. The ants below the rim climbed up the rim to assist their fellow ants holding the tail to pull up the gecko carcass
For creatures who cannot speak to organise each other, who have a short life span and did not therefore go to school. This is a masterpiece of wisdom in operation.
Just imagine that the ants are human being and without tools required to do exactly the same thing: you will by no means applaud these ants and the One who designed and programmed them so!
LoLz. So even though engineering is about building machines or constructs it's still engineering not to use machines or contruct any thing. Sometimes the way you stretch language just to create a narrative is just too amusing.
KnownUnknown: I saw this documentary and I thought to myself, the Almighty Ant made the ant in his own image and made them the largest civilization on earth. Such tiny creatures but so much organization, wisdom, and perseverance!! Many adult educated polytheists will find this simple task impossible!!
My Ant is amazing and it blows away my little sense.
TenQ: Assignment : Without the use of machines or any mechanical aid, 10 of you should carry an alligator over the roof of a bungalow from the ground level
Note: If you are in a hurry, watch the video from 1:45 mark. It's just brilliant!
I can't just help marvel at my God. Why? Look at these ants, their brain is probably 1/(1,000,000) times smaller that my brain, yet they displayed this amazing brilliance in completing a task that many civil engineering students will fail.
These ants, Their life span is so short - - meaning that not much can be passed down from the wiser ones They can't speak nor write - - the best they can do is to lay down chemical trails which is at best a mundane way of communicating. BUT They just seem to know They seem to know about organisation They seem to have a grand purpose They seem to be highly intelligent
What do I see: Divine Programing by the Source of Life: 1. With Data and Purpose written in 2. With Instructions and Functions Its a complete AI package written in the biology of the Ant.
If you have any problem with this, buy yourself a cold bottle of water and drink.
My God is amazing and it blows away my little sense.
How does comparing the capacity for weight lifting to mental acuity make sense?
Don't evangelise in the workplace. The workplace is not a venue for converting people. If you get in trouble now you'll start saying they are persecuting you.
You are trying to do what is not real. Wealth and power are gotten through work (whether legal or illegal), not mumbo jumbo, don't get it twisted. You are setting yourself up to be taken advantage of otherwise. Go work and plot your own rise to wealth and power.
sapiens2: greetings to everyone here. I want to trade my soul for power and wealth. we are two that are dead serious on embarking in this journey. just me only nothing like any other sacrifices pls supreme members should help out
Go get something useful to do and expend the same energy making your work great. This path you think you want is a nonsense path.
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 3:21pm On Aug 15, 2023
, Why this battle for a God we know nothing about , we did not learn about pain! If you get a new born infant and toss it into a pan of hot grandnut oil , we all can imagine what would happen ? So why is the knowledge of the love or existence of One True God be Learned? We clearly didn't learn about pain did we, but a God who did create "Heaven" and "Earth", knew us before we were "born" , we should at least has a sort of decorum at this point on who he look likes and the religion he "listens" to .
