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Honchoslim16:
Exactly!
But our people over here, won't accept what you stated!

I think it's a hold over from our ancestral beliefs when people believed strongly in retribution from the gods. In other climes where such beliefs are more attenuated you don't get the same strong reaction.

Honchoslim16:
Well, as for me... I don't believe in 'sin'


I follow laws stated in the constitution of my country..... Not laws stated by an Israeli god or Arab god!

Sin is a made up concept to guilt people into obedience to religious strictures. I'd definitely take the law seriously.

mjuvey3:
How many people remember the evil spirit that disturbed and terrorized the southwest(Lagos,Ibadan etc) in the late 90's and early 2000's?

If you're below 35 years,you won't know this tale.

People had to get a leave(Forgotten the name) and put in front of their home else once the spirit struck, you're gone.... People also avoided walking late night then cos it struck mostly at night.


A terrific event also happened at the University of Lagos ( Unilag)in the late 90's.

At night,a certain student was always doing laundry alone without her face being seen(she always hid her face)

People noticed her but most students never cared not until a certain midnight a female student summoned courage to unravel the mystery behind her weirdness.

Upon getting to where she was seated and doing her infamous laundry,she tapped her and asked why she always washed her clothing at night, immediately the lady turned and revealed herself,she had horse feet and face of a demon....The so called student that went to meet her was frozen and shouted and ran to her room.

From that day she was never seen again....You see most of our schools( Universities, Polytechnics, Secondary schools)etc are havens for evil.....It is deep,if you know,you know.

You guys and stories sha! LoLz.

Ashawoman82:
in the early early 2000s as a kid then, I remember a particular time all families were told to put that leaf on their door, my family did it.. I think he's right, it was a popular practice in lag in those days...

You speak as if Lagos is one small village. I was born and brought up in Lagos and I still have a house in Lagos, I never heard about any leaf.

StagethemTVee:
It’s my 17th wedding anniversary today and I would love to share a few tips.
1. Unmet expectations are the No 1 causes of divorce. Act like the success of the marriage depends on only you.
2. Communication must never stop. Avoid malice and separation under the guise of recovering or getting your heads straight.
3. You are one in the marriage and no party should feel like they are less.
4. Don’t involve family members in your marriage under the guise of seeking advise. Get a mentor with several decades of successful marriage.
5. Spend some time away from the stress together to bond and connect.
6. Be in the circle of people with successful marriages.

Happy 17th wedding Anniversary to me and my boo.

Congrats! Wish you many more blissful years together.

Ken4Christ:
What is BCE and CE? It's still with reference to Christ. It was just coined out not so that non Christians will be more comfortable with it. It's still the same date as BC and AD.

Jesus is Lord.

BCE - Before Common Era

CE - Common Era

Ir has nothing to do with Jesus.

1Sharon:
Lordreed, leftalone this is the best solution ☝🏾

Drop a link and let there be witnessss, I'm down

He should use his magic to get a job first.

https://www.nairaland.com/7707037/please-save-me-oju-ti

nappy760:
Una just dey prolong this matter...somebody drop the zoom link so external invigilators can act as witnesses biko.

The chat don too dey long

E bi like say the person na just jobless youth wey dey find who e go scam.

KnownUnknown:
I just had an OBE. I saw TenQ eating eba with egusi soup.

I too had an OBE , I saw TenQ logging into Nairaland on his phone!

LeftAlone:
Well, as we speak. I do not know what is dearest most to you.
But you can kiss everything that is dear to you a good bye in one month.
Does that make a whole lot of sense now?
Let's say your eyes,
Legs, maybe kids, job ... I don't know. Things dear to you sir

Wait so it's just any old random thing? You are not going to provide any specific thing that will happen?

TenQ:
Okay, I didn't know that!
Thanks for the info!!

LoLz. So Christianity is a cult of the jew named Jesus?

TenQ:
Read my lips carefully!
Is Christianity a cult of Jesus?

You can loosely describe Christianity as a cult however can you define it as a cult of Jesus: this is the point of argument?

You'll need to tell me what Jesus benefit was in making disciples and eventually Christians.

1. He never had to work to provide sustenance for himself or his disciples because people donated to him and wanted him to come to big fancy dinners even.

2. Personal aggrandisement, having people shout your name and throng you everywhere you go is pretty heady and very ego boosting.

3. Power over people. Insinuating he is the son of the god of the jew and was prophesied to reign over Israel, he courted peoples attention and devotion which they gave.

TenQ:
Modified title
Islam: How To Handle Unwanted Truths

I opened a Thread on the topic:
Why Islam is a Cult of Mohammed!
Those who hate the TRUTH just pulled the thread down a few moments ago.
The Summary:
1. I defined the term "a CULT" as a group or organization that is characterized by its devotion to a specific person, idea, or belief system.

2. I gave examples from the Qur'an, Hadiths and Tafsirs to show that the primary beneficiary of Islam is Mohammed

3. I further gave a list of 16 privileges given to Mohammed ALONE by Allah (differentiating him from other Muslims) which was centered around properties/money , Sex and Women ALL from Muslim sources

4. Some of Mohammed's followers felt that the information shouldn't be made available to Muslims and should be taken down by the Mods.

5. The Mods seem to believe that the TRUTH should be suppressed and hidden because Islam doesn't appreciate them.

6. I did NOT use any disrespectful words either to describe Allah, Mohammed, Muslims or Islam

Questions:
1. Why is it that Muslims hate TRUTHS from their own trusted literatures when it is against their preferred standard narratives?
2. If God is TRUTH, why must his Religion be defended with Untruths?
3. As a Christian who knows that you are following one of the AntiChrists and doesn't want you to be caught in a web of Taqqiya, how do you want me to discuss Islam?
4. Is it true that:
A Muslim is one who is lead by the Mantra: "Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my Mind"


I asked some basic questions:
Question:
1. Is Islam not devoted to the benefit of Mohammed?
2. Why would Islam not be classified as a cult of Mohammed?
3. Is their any prophet who have these kind of privileges other than Mohammed?



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How does your definition of cult exclude Christianity being a cult of the jew named Jesus?

TenQ:
Sorry I don't have the time. If you do, please go ahead

Bwahahahahaha!

TenQ:
That's for you to do if you care Or prove that OBEs where physical environments are described

TenQ:
That's for you to do if you care Or prove that OBEs where physical environments are described do not exist. I don't have the time

LoLz. You are the one making the claim so you get to provide the evidence. Triplechoice made a claim and provided evidence, why do I need to do your work for you?

TenQ:
Any example where the subject can tell you real time physical events happening around their environment like the surgical theatre and what each medical personnel was doing.

As I have point out to triplechoice in the study he referenced, out of 2060 events studied only 1 was verifiable and it was not an OBE. So go ahead provide an example of a verifiable OBE.

LeftAlone:
Yes of course, as long as the photo in it is clear enough.
Then I'll need your full photo
And a video call to confirm it's you.
Then we can proceed with the Devil and some one or two gods.

The damage may be irreparable in case of a loss of a loved one, I hope you don't have anyone too dear to you.

Let's see whether "He that is in the World" is anything serious at all or people are just magnifying mediocrity.

Lemme know when you are ready

Hold on. I thought this was about getting me to turn insane, what has loved ones got to do with it?

I am ready now.

LeftAlone:
Plus your NIMC slip sir... Please block out your address and NIN with.
Then we are good

Sure.

However in the event I can't find my NIMC slip will my Voter's card do?

triplechoice:
Here is a link to the results of the study on NDE . It's the first phase of the study. The second phase of the study has also ended but no results has been released yet.

https://neuroskoki.pl/en/awareness-during-resuscitation-results-of-the-study/

That's a link to a blog. Here is the link to the actual study:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25301715/

It doesn't say that it is definitely not a hallucination or entirely a subjective experience. In fact the author says:

While the low incidence (2%) of explicit recall of VA impaired our ability to use images to objectively examine the validity of specific claims associated with VA, nonetheless our verified case of VA suggests conscious awareness may occur beyond the first 20–30 s after CA (when some residual brain electrical activity may occur) while providing a quantifiable time
period of awareness after the brain ordinarily reaches an isolectric
state.

Only one verifiable incidence out of 2060. This is not indicative of any objective afterlife IMO.

TenQ:
NDEs are purely subjective.
OBEs within NDEs may sometimes be very Objective especially when the subject is able to describe real life/real time occurences which he ordinarily shouldn't be privy to.
Several OBEs have been reported where the subject described perfectly what each medical personnel was doing during their flat line or describe what was happening outside their bed/room space.
This is why such is described as OBE and not just NDE.
Attached is what one of the Atheist of NL posted



No mam!
A starting point to know that there are non physical existence of Living Beings (God, Satan, demons, Angels)!

Every Atheist must cross this bridge before they can be pointed to the True God and His doctrine of salvation !

Where is the "sometimes objective" evidence of OBE?

LeftAlone:
Any form of assurance that it's you and not some other persons

Ok so let's set up a zoom meeting then.

triplechoice:
What of scientific studies which counters what you have shown me?

Are you saying you have not seen those ?

If you have ,what are your thoughts on those ones and why do you ignore them ?

All the evidences you presented ,I have seen them before,and it's why I had something to say against them base on the conclusion reached by others investigating the same thing .
I will read the link and respond later

No I haven't. I'd like to see them if you have links you care to share.

triplechoice:
I thought so and knew you will respond once you see it.

This is not completely true . You have depended on studies with few sample sizes to conclude .Thought patterns are not consistent across individuals. They may appear similar but not exactly the same .The minor differences is why no two persons behave or perceive things exactly the same way . You need to revisit where you got that from or let me see it to judge for myself.

I said the brain scan images are similar across individuals with similar thought patterns. I never said thought patterns are the same in individuals.

Here's one article to buttress the point: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/neuroscientists-decoded-thoughts-brain-scans

I think I already answered this. It doesn't happen to everyone with the same problem . That is the mystery .

I've not seen where you answered it.

Not really a mystery since we know it is interactions that are causing these subjective experiences and these interactions are not precisely repeated in every body.

TenQ:
Why should you take the testimony (if it is true) serious?
It shows that life exist beyond the 3D space and biological brain.

QED!

Even if the experiences is from spirits not of God! Life exists beyond fless and blood!

Ok, how is a subjective experience, that has no objective evidence, evidence for an afterlife? So whatever experience in your head is sufficient proof?

TenQ:
BTW:
There were no OBE in the testimonies
The testimonies were designed to teach new age doctrines and not a report.
Not withstanding!

The Bible says, "Test ALL Spirits whether they be of God"! To this end, no NDE report should be accepted as doctrine. Each one taken at their face falue. Haven said this,
Should you take this NDE serious?
I will say Yes if and only if the testimonies are true.
Should you make the testimonies a doctrine? Certainly Not!
Why shouldn't you make it a doctrine?
Because the individual may be under the influence of spirits not of God.


Why should you take the testimony (if it is true) serious?
It shows that life exist beyond the 3D space and biological brain.

I have reasons to discard these testimonies as weak however, this isn't the bone of contention!

LMAO! i should only take seriously the OBEs and NDEs that confirm your specific beliefs. Right.

You didn't watch the video. See the screenshot.

KnownUnknown:
F—- Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, and Krishna. You saw Mickey Mouse playing kickball with one of those blue Indian monkey gods.

LMAO!

triplechoice:
The evidences we currently have doesnt point in the direction you imagined. You think so because you are viewing things from a strictly atheistic position and not able or willing to consider other possibilities .


Atheist materialist are the people mostly involved in a wrong interpretation of what has been discovered about the mind and brain . .


Present the evidences and let me show you how they do not point in the direction you think.

Your mention was buried amongst others so didn't see it early.

1. Drugs, alcohol and other chemicals alteration of the emotional and mind states.

2. Brain imaging showing thought patterns which are consistent across individuals, meaning it doesn't matter who is being subjected to brain imaging similar thought patterns produce similar images.

3. Behavioural changes stemming from brain trauma of various sorts eg. surgery, brain tumors/cancer, stroke, brain injury, etc.

4. Behavioural changes stemming from various bodily or organ dysfunction.

These are the ones I can muster off the tip of my finger tips.

TenQ:
This is also a result of you finding the truth

The truth of what?

TenQ:
Good for you. It means it's time to search

No thanks, I don't find them interesting.

TenQ:
All these are NDEs E and not OBE!

In OUT of BODY experiences, a person witnesses real physical experiences that he is not supposed to be privy to.
NDE to a large extent may be I sinuated to be an Elaborate Dream but not OBE especially if it happens within an NDE

LoLz. You didn't even watch the video. The guy says he had an OBE in it along with the NDE, watch it don't just read the tag line.

Besides you didn't answer the question, should I take this particular experience seriously or no?

TenQ:
I don't have to as you have probably seen a few yourself

LoLz. No I haven't.

TenQ:
Howards NDE is not even one of the profound ones with respect to OBEs.

When the subject who is expected to be unconscious is reporting what each of the medical personnel was doing when they died, that is a real deal and there are examples to that effect


This is why it is called Out of Body Body Experiences

Then why not to give us those ones to explore.