Image123: Checkmate as usual and as expected. You could not offer any logical reasons why any Potentate or government should not have an army.
LMFAO! If you read my post before last and still say this I don't see any reason to discuss this any further, you aren't worth the time or effort. Bwahahahahahaha!
colored: I'm telling you. Not even Hitler, nor King Leopold of Belgium, nor Stalin come close to the bible god in vileness. For aforementioned people while they were terrible people, a part of me sees the humanity in them, that flawed humanity, imperfect and bending to the evil devices of nature. Yes, they were terrible people but that is because they were human beings. But for the bible God that we are made to believe is the epitome of goodness and perfection, I have zero tolerance towards his repugnant behavior.
Image123: In other words, you have no reasonable reason for the mentioned nations not to have an army. You have no logical reason for any government not to have an army, except God. You will make a good clown. You don't know any God, you don't have any idea how it/he/they operate, but you somehow think you should define God and he must fit your definition to be truly God. What a joke.
LMFAO! You really need me to explain why the idea, that the god that created a universe with billions of stars and planets needs a few life forms on a single planet as soldiers, is ridiculous . Bwahahahahaha!
Maynman: Is there any nation or government that’s “omnipotent”? Are you comparing your deity to nations and governments led by humans who are not “omnipotent”?
LoLz. As in he needs us to explain to him why an OMNIPOTENT or ALMIGHTY god needs an army is a ridiculous idea. Bwahahahahaha! I just can't...LMFAO!
Image123: What exactly is ridiculous about having an army? Can you rationally explain why it is funny or ridiculous to have an army? Is it okay for the US or Russia, or Nigeria to have an army?
LordReed: LoLz. I ridiculed the ridiculous idea that an almighty god needs an army
jaephoenix: Many people are theists cos they are afraid of hell(or whatever they threaten them with) and not because they love their respective gods
Add to that thought stopping techniques to prevent critical examination of the religious material. That's why some of them (JW for example) are afraid of university education because they know that such environments allow the development of critical thinking skills.
FxMasterz: Did the researchers tell you that the Tunguska event was a natural effect?
If the Bible has never talked about Sodom and Gomorrah, wouldn't everyone have errornously regarded it as a natural event?
The stroking similarity between the Bible account of what happened, the area where it happened and the substances found in the location are enough evidence.
We don't deal in speculations. Whether it was caused by God or not is your cup of tea, not mine.
Yes they did, in the very article you linked.
The question remains how can we tell that the so called Sodom and Gomorrah was a god that did it and not a natural event. This is the question you are unable to answer.
What is the difference between you and a someone who thinks Spiderman is real because they saw him fly past the Statue of Liberty in a movie?
You are dealing in speculation since you can't answer the questions that would allow us to know.
FxMasterz: At least my Bible didn't talk about that. How does that event concern me?
It concerns what we are discussing. You claim to present scientific evidence that the Sodom and Gomorrah event happened, the people who found it said it is similar to the Tunguska event so the question becomes how can we tell if it was your god that caused it. If your god caused this destruction, did the god cause the other? If you say the god didn't cause Tunguska but caused the purported Sodom and Gomorrah how can we tell the difference between the god caused one and the natural one?
FxMasterz: Of course, how can depraved scientists find proof that runs contrary to their ideologies. Just like yourself, they'll look for everything they can use to deny the ruins of any Sodom and Gomorah status. Except you want to be deceived, where did the pillar of salt come from which engulfed Lot's wife according to the Bible? This article points us to the dead sea and the sands close to its shore.
In the video, the evidence of burning sulphur is overwhelming. The location of the city around the dead sea aligning with the location of the city in the Genesis narrative cannot be a mere coincidence.
One question, do you think the the Tunguska event was your god trying to annihilate that place?
Hey! Let me also tip you that the evidence for the Tower of Babel too has been discovered. The details have all the archeologist names and papers you're talking about. Just be on the lookout for that too. I'll post everything here Nairaland soon.
Those who had already died as atheists blaspheming the Almighty God while they lived are already damned for sure.
Did you read the article? You would have seen this:
“All the observations stated in Genesis are consistent with a cosmic airburst,” Kennett said, “but there’s no scientific proof that this destroyed city is indeed the Sodom of the Old Testament.” However, the researchers said, the disaster could have generated an oral tradition that may have served as the inspiration for the written account in the book of Genesis, as well as the biblical account of the burning of Jericho in the Old Testament Book of Joshua.
Also what was found is said to be the result of an airburst similar to what happened in Tunguska in 1908 so unless you want to also claim the Tunguska event to be of divine origin then there is nothing here to really consider.
FxMasterz: Evidence of the Biblical Stories of Sodom and Gomorrah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTjEbNgTQM In the heart of the Middle East, a team of archaeologists had been digging for years, hoping to uncover the remains of ancient civilizations buried deep beneath the sands. But they never expected to find what they did.
One day, as they were excavating a site near the Dead Sea, they stumbled upon what appeared to be the ruins of an ancient city. As they dug deeper, they uncovered more and more evidence of a thriving civilization that had existed thousands of years ago.
The team soon realized that they had discovered the lost city of Sodom and Gomorrah, the infamous cities that were destroyed by God in the Old Testament. It was an incredible discovery, one that would change the course of history.
As they continued to explore the ruins, the archaeologists found evidence of a highly advanced society that had once thrived in the area. They discovered sophisticated buildings, complex irrigation systems, and intricate artwork and carvings.
But as they dug deeper, they also found evidence of the city's downfall. The walls of the buildings were charred and blackened, and the remains of its inhabitants showed signs of a violent and sudden death. It was clear that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah had been swift and devastating.
The discovery of Sodom and Gomorrah was a turning point in the history of the Middle East. It was proof that there had been thriving civilizations in the area long before the rise of modern-day nations, and it shed new light on the biblical stories that had been passed down through the ages.
As the archaeologists continued to study the ruins, they uncovered even more secrets about the lost city. There was the Pillar of salt which the Bible recorded to be Lot's wife. More astonishing was the evidence of burning sulphur which the Bible recorded to be the very substance Yahweh rained from heaven to burn off the cities. The archeologies tested the pieces of sulphur found on the site and found that its components differed from any form of sulphur found anywhere in the world, attesting to its likely heavenly origin.
This discovery provided evidential proofs of the existence of God, His power and His ability to do judgement. This further brings another proof that the Bible is indeed the Word of God, and that the stories in it are the truth.
This discoveries have laid to rest the arguments regarding this mysterious Bible story which we can now agree to be true history.
Image123: It's the same goal post. He is the Lord of hosts(He is called that hundreds of times in the Bible), it's not something you just discovered last night. There is no denying that He has armies. You mocked or attempted to ridicule the army as babies with ducks or something. Then i showed/reminded you of the seriousness, gravity and consequences of those people you call babies with their Omnipotent God. Your pal came here to start talking about the morality while you laughed it away with the fake lolz bwahahaha plastic response. Simple bible knowledge(CRK) question for you. Who killed 185,000 people according to the Bible?
LoLz. I ridiculed the ridiculous idea that an almighty god needs an army, all the other stuff you are just imagining. I even called it all a fake story so I dunno what is making imagine all these other things you are cooking up in your head. Bwahahahahaha.
Image123: i wasn't referring to me. You are looking for answers to your life, that's why you keep parambulating and making rigmaroles around christianity. When you are serious enough, you will get answers. It's a Biblical paraphrase.
Image123: You mean "It's as funny as a Special Forces commando leading babies with rubber ducks to war. Bwahahahahaha!" is the fake story you mentioned? In that case, i see you are not serious at all. When you are serious, you will get answers.
Image123: Stay in the goal post for now, no need changing it. We were not talking about morality but about whether it is a laughable thing for the Lord of hosts to fight for babies with rubber ducks(or how did reed refer to believers). So point your grouse to reed who displayed 'callousness' by laughing it away.
You are the one changing the goal posts because we were talking about your almighty god needing an army, not about your almighty god fighting for believers.
KnownUnknown: 185,000 thousand people killed. It’s ironic how you Christians display callousness when recounting the actions of your god and his people. You call those 185,000 people the “enemies” so they deserved to be killed by your god but do you have any idea what composes a military force?
@Lordreed This is why I love to use that holocaust celebration for shock value. Its drives home the point of the savage nature of the Bible stories and its protagonists. Abrahamic adherents can easily hand wave mass murder and genocide despite the numbers because they really can’t picture the madness they are celebrating. Use the holocaust or any historical instance of genocide as an example then they can picture the atrocities they are talking about.
It’s very interesting but not surprising that Moses isn’t seen as a terrorist given the stories in the Bible.
I understand why you do it but I think it's real poor taste. Comparing real people's deaths to mythological stories is a massive disconnect on the scale we are referring to. No mythological story can ever compare to the pain and tragedies real people have endured and are still enduring without reprieve from their so called almighty god. If that real suffering they can see with their own eyes is not getting through to them then you know that it would take a whole lot more to get them to sit up and take notice.
Yours: What does an omnipotent need? Anything that Almighty God needs. Right, the almighty god needs an army. LoLz. He is the Lord of hosts. Anything wrong with that?
Mine: It's as funny as a Special Forces commando leading babies with rubber ducks to war. Bwahahahahaha!
Yours: Babies with rubber ducks pulled down the walls of Jericho and were sleeping when 185,000 of their enemies died. i love that you find it funny, many unbelievers don't.
Image123: Good to see you deflecting into the reality. You apparently forgot about the reality when you were mocking the logic until i showed otherwise. Just like many political pundits who remain in denial and doubt the reality of their imminent defeat, reality will soon hit you all, lol. In the meantime, be logical/reasonable as you claim you want to be. Bwahaha can't cover your fears.
Christianity Etc › Re: God by LordReed(m): 4:17pm On Feb 28, 2023
