₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
Nope they are in exactly the same situation. Take people of African descendent, they are more significantly more susceptible to diabetes, sickle cell anemia, cancer, heart disease, stroke, asthma, pneumonia, and HIV/AIDS. According to you this justifies any racial discrimination they receive.

Dtruthspeaker:
See Fear! I thought you said you were not afraid to die, and yet, see FEAR!

Anyway, it is your fellow Haters of God and Good commonly known as atheists that you should fear. Also the Muslims like Isis Antichrist.

The only extremism a Christian has is his love for rightness and goodness. A Christian will never harm anyone UNLESS, it is Commanded by The Law that this is the time and circumstance for which harm can be done.

But as I said man begged God to let them rule themselves and after God finally let them, they created their own laws called legal.

So, now my extremism is that I can not wait for God's return so that all you devils will be taking away as criminals to their Firery prison

Trollronaldo:
are you a robot?

Trollronaldo:
So?

Trollronaldo:
you are the person still not getting it..if not you won't ask me to list the environmental factors. It means that you didn't understand anything I have been saying.


I have stated repeatedly that it's a culture thing, and when this culture becomes a norm, homosexuals become bold to practice it and when people don't see anything really bad in it, the probability that the culture will spread in that environment is higher.


Do you just read or not follow? Why are you asking me to list factors?

Trollronaldo:
If you don't create an e environment for it, it won't spread fast.

dalass:
You saw dogs mating or hens, horses,lions or which of these animals are you talking about?

Trollronaldo:
are you finding to difficult to understand me when I say "fester" or you are deliberately trying to just shoot the strawman?

What's difficult to understand about "environmental factors can help homosexuality fester"

Trollronaldo:
ok, lemme to rephrase, maybe you will stop shooting at the strawman.

The argument is "not" environmental factors can cause the rise of homosexuality.

The argument is "Environmental factors can make homosexuality spread faster".

Please can you address the latter?

dalass:
Biology and agriculture science are part of science. In agriculture for example, how does a goat or pig business become profitable? You get male and female to breed offsprings!

The so called new age stuff wants to turn everything on its head!

You see someone who is female say call me pronouns like they, them and not "she, her"

It is even so unnatural and quite see a man and a man, or a woman and a woman cuddling, having sex with themselves. Many of those idiots initiate little ones from very young ages. So it isn't natural, it is careful programming and nuturing impressionable kids to these unbecoming silly lifestyle

Trollronaldo:
okay, are you saying that there's no environmental factor to homosexuality?

DeusXmachina:
It's not impossible to be agnostic and still have bigotry, but I'm questioning what path he went through to arrive at his agnosticism, that didn't work for him to examine his homophobia.

But I was referring to Dtruthspeaker, I remember him being a fundamentalist christian, but now he's so far down the rabbit hole, he's parroting "how to genocide 101".
I won't be surprised if he starts his own terror organization anytime now, with the way he's sounding like shekau.

Trollronaldo:
homosexual exist but will not fester if not legalize.
By doing this, you will reduce and manage the spread. That's why it has a genetic undertone but the spread is adide by environmental factors. These are simple terms that are not hard to grasp.
If you don't create an e environment for it, it won't spread fast.

You cannot compare the prevalence of homosexuality in a society where its legal and another where it's not.

It's common sense.

Trollronaldo:
Is that not the essence of a our discussion?

If you don't allow it to fester in your society, you will reduce the environmental influence, thereby reducing the health and social problems that comes with it. You can do it by making homosexuality strictly a genetic or psychological issue and that it has to be treated as such

Trollronaldo:
are you understanding anything I am saying here?


The article is not to infer that environmental factors includes homosexuality. The articles is inferring that environmental factors can aid the spread of homosexuality and it categorically stated that more than 2/3 od homosexuals got influenced as a result of environmental factors.

Should I locate it for you on the article or do you want to read it again?

jaephoenix:
I have read your depositions. And made my views.
You slyly ignored lesbians in your homosexual narratives. Less infections unlike their female-male counterparts

jaephoenix:
1. The first case of HIV wasnt amongst gay men. Its an anecdote. HIV was discovered in Central Africa, probably Congo, amongst the natives. And it was postulated(bushmeat theory) to have been caused by hunters being bitten by the infected monkeys or pierced accidentally while cutting meat.

Read up https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS

2. Yes, anal sex causes easy spread of viral infections since its relatively more traumatic than vaginal sex but the truth is that it is practiced in both homosexual and heterosexual couples. So it would be unfair to blame only the gays

Trollronaldo:
read it again, atheist will only argue from the scientific POV, atheists cannot understand that it has another aspect, which forms a huge chunk of it in terms of environmental factors that is not scientific. This aspect is social

This is my point.

this is a fallacy of faulty equivalence. Both conditions are different with respect to how they affect societal and health issues. They are incomparable.
There's nothing double standard when your analogy doesn't address the core issues that I raised How it can create community health and social structure challenges that jomo2 can create.

please read the study

Trollronaldo:
the analogy is weak, very weak with respect to whether immunodeficiency and insanity can form a societal structure whereby such character can be influenced on others.

you will still shift the goalpost.
Two factors drives homosexuality, much of it are environmental factors that influence People and a handful is genetic.

Trollronaldo:
read this study, I don know why simple stuffs like this are difficult for you to research.

Please before you move the goalpost again, kindly note that I don't have an issue with the genetical aspect of homosexuality, what I have issues with is the influence an homosexual-based environment can have on some straight people which is the core of all the social and health issue I have been discussing. The environmental influence aspect is the core tool with whcuh homosexuality is been driven and sold to others.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

Trollronaldo:
you are just pandering from one goalpost to another.

This is my point, homosexuality creates new public health, social behavior and long term social structure challenges.
Is it true? If yes.
Does the benefit outweigh the risks?

I don't know how all these immunology and mental illness of a thins equates to the dangers of homosexuality in the society and how homosexuality can be learned and influenced on people.

I don't like people not staying in line.

People can be influenced to become gays and even sometimes raped. If I bring further journals to validate this now, you will move the goalpost again

Trollronaldo:
what type of goalpost shifting is this?

Your analogy doesn't make any sense to me

Trollronaldo:
I think so, there so many disadvantages of making homosexuality legal which is even currently playing out in the western world.

Personally, aside my general points, I have had bad experiences with gays. A lot of them do not take a no for answer. Here in Nigeria, while I was living in Nomalinda estate in Enugu, there was this group of gays living in the estate. They had connections with top government officials in Enugu state and they were members of house on the Rock church. They engaged in the practice of raping men and getting away with it. I was almost a victim.
Although, we can argue that this also happens between heterosexuals, but that's an issue already that we trying to address, we cannot broaden the scope again into homosexuality. These guys engage in the act of drugging their victims and then rapping them. I almost feel for it, I became friends with one of them without knowing what they do, I didn't know they were gay. I started going to his house and he kept on insisting that we go to club with his friends, but I wasn't this outgoing person and I was always tired after getting back from work. Not until one day I got back from work, I didn't have fuel in my generator, I went to his apartment to charge my phone, I was tired so I slept off. In the night, this guy started caressing me private part, I woke up and he wanted to force me into it, I overpowered him and push him to the wall before demanding that he opens the door or I will kill him here after picking up a rod in his sitting room.
He opened the door and I left, in the morning, he wanted to have a conversation about it, he stated telling me things about love. I walked to his apartment and made it clear to him that hif he discusses that with me again, I will kill him or get him jailed.

He relocated soon after to Abuja, he was running from a particular rape issue he committed with his gang. Although they had connection with top government officials, but this victim was also connected, so this case was a handful for them. It was after he relocated that I started hearing all these gist and even the police visited out estate because of this.


Read plenty story about psychopath gays who are specialized in raping and kill teenage boys. This exactly what these guys were turning into.

My problem is that, these guys can influence others. I wont have issues with it if they cannot. A big story is that l, homosexuality can cause plenty community health issues, increase social entropy and disorient communal interaction.

I know what I am saying, Its not the first time I have had bad experiences with gays. This is not to say that all gays are bad, but many of them can be and will not take a no for an answer. They will rape you.

Trollronaldo:
it's one of the points I am using to buttress my argument that the risk of running an homosexual-based society outweighs the benefits.

Trollronaldo:
you did partially.

My argument is that: Homosexuality is more of a matter of culture than biological because it can be learned, hence its okay if some societies don't think this culture will be beneficial to them. However, the risk of homosexuality culture greatly outweighs the benefits when looked at from a broader spectrum.

Trollronaldo:
HIV was first tested in Gays

jaephoenix:
Amongst these guys, only Dahmer is gay. The second didn’t turn up anything in my search. The last 2 aren't gay. If you have contradictory info, do share
But even if they are gay, how does it correlate that most serial killers are gay or bi? If you bothered to check, most serial killers are actually straight. A simple Google search would educate you on that, but you chose emotion, instead of facts, even commiting the fallacy of hasty generalization, in your hate to condemn gays. So going by your logic, lets hate on all straight men because they are serial killers

Trollronaldo:
homosexuality makes STI transmission faster, thereby increasing the problems associated with community health.

As a matter of fact, HIV, the most studied virus and the most difficult virus was first detected in gays.

Trollronaldo:
Then highlight those benefits of LGBTQ that outweighs its risk that will persuade non-westerb countries to accepting it?

Give me the list. I am just admiring your inability to personally check things for yourself. There are many diseases that are prevalent within LGBTQ community and its not rocket science STIs pread after within that community.

Trollronaldo:
So high risk of transmission of STIs associated with gays is not a health challenge?
Is that a building or construction challenge?


Lol 😂

falcon01:
My only concern with the LGBTQ+ alphabet gang is them forcing it on everybody, not even that but forcing it on little children who don't have an idea on how to grasp on the concept of Gender and Sexuality. A dude made an experiment and registered an account of 8-10 year old on YouTube kids and guess what The the suggested video was? It was filled with Homosexual stuff, Transecual stuffs, gender identity stuff, Drag shows and stuffs about accepting people for who they identify as with other lots of Bullshit. Wait let me look for a screenshot.

Trollronaldo:
You can confirm anything I say, so you can counter it.

I think you use it just to distract the conversation with the loaded question.
There are many new public health challenges associated with LGBTQ community, you can check it. It will be very disappointing if you don't know about this before now tbh.

Seem like a lot of you guys just follow the western bandwagon

Trollronaldo:
To add to it, developing nations like in Africa are not medically developed enough to cater for the the new community health challenges that comes with flourishing LGBTQ. We are barely struggle to tackle the challenges we have now and you people want to introduce more for the purpose of personal satiety.

Trollronaldo:
Why is it very hard for you to confirm anything I infer on Google instead of loading me with questions.

It's very easy to browse these things, I have been spoonfeeding you all through this thread.

Does the risk of allowing homosexuality thrive outweigh thr benefits?
If it does, then why do you need to force it down the throat of other countries. It wouldn't be so hard to sell if it does.

Trollronaldo:
It creates new public health challenges.
As matter of fact, it can increase the transmission of STIs within a society by many folds.

So can I hear some of the benefits, so we can see how it outweighs the risks and then know how to sell it to other nations?