Dtruthspeaker: That's a lie! The candle flame is just the result of something burning. A human being is not a candle flame.
You are similar to the candle flame in that you are a conglomeration of chemical reactions which when they cease ends your life. The same cessation of the process of burning that signals a flame's end applies to your life's end.
Dtruthspeaker: Because like the sun which you agreed has power over us through its exertion of its power of light and heat, Death too is exerting its power to cut us from living on the earth, and like the sun we can not stop it either.
Death is a state not a thing so when you say it's exerting power there is nothing doing that. We can see the sun but can you say the same for "death"? Nope because it is not a thing.
NNTR: Romans 6:8-11 8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live [together] with Him, 9because we know [the self-evident truth] that Christ, having been raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has power over Him. 10For the death that He died, He died to sin [ending its power and paying the sinner’s debt] once and for all; and the life that He lives, He lives to [glorify] God [in unbroken fellowship with Him]. 11Even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin [and your relationship to it broken], but alive to God [in unbroken fellowship with Him] in Christ Jesus
The tongue has the power of life and death (i.e. Proverbs 18:21)
Yes, you're correctly, in that, truly, death isnt reckoned being a power anymore, simply because of the fact that, God came to earth, became one of us, lived among us, literally lived our life, experienced death on our behalf, and from, thereafter, He broke, not only the power of death, but also, broke its backbone.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.🥴
I don't care about your fairytale, death isn't a power because death is not a thing that does work (definition of power is ability to do work), it's how we describe the state of a system no longer functioning.
I've heard people say that once we die, we go to heaven if we're good, and if we're bad, we go to hell straight. I've also heard about people who "died" for a second or two, and then they "come back to life" and start spreading tales of people suffering in hell.
So, what's the truth? When we die, will we stop existing, or will we immediately go to heaven/hell for our punishment/reward?
When we die we go to the same place the candle flame goes when it is extinguished.
JOKO44: You don't need anyone to tell you that there is a power above humans. Look around and ask yourself where are all these creatures come from. The plants, the animals, the ocean, the mountains etc. But who is the owner of this Supreme power? No one knows.
Yes there's a power above humans, we call it the sun. LoLz.
Norah199: Good morning guys. I need some matured minds and married men and women in the house to look into this matter and give me an ideal way to go about this. Would be a long read pls bear with me.
So late late 2021, I got married to my long time girlfriend. Before the marriage, my mom had a little reservation about the girl and her family for some odd reasons due to her tribe. She’s Igbo. Everything was funny because the first day I introduced my wife to my mom. She liked her and everything was cool. They where going on well until my mom started telling me she’s having some dreams about the girl and her family. She’s white garment member. I think her dislike started growing when she told my wife about her church and she said she can’t go to her church for any reason. I was a former member of the church when I was a teenager but with time as I grew I stopped going to the church not because it’s a bad church or something wrong with it. I just don’t fancy going there and also not a church type of person. My mom believe it was the girl that made me stopped going to the church which was funny. She has said that several times.
For the record, I’m an only child of my mother, my dad is late and she’s yet to marry again. I do everything for her like her rent, monthly upkeep, and also got her a good car. Initially I thought she was doing all these because she felt she hasn’t enjoyed me yet and another woman is coming into the picture which is normal for most parents. So I did everything I could to make her comfortable before my wedding.
We did the wedding and everything went on smoothly aprt from some normal family disputes and all but the wedding was successful. Deep down I know my mom still doesn’t like my girl because of her statement s most times but I don’t always give her that room so she’s always quiet and rather not talk what’s on her mind. Later on, my mom started complaining of the money I give to her. She seems not to be ok with it. Trust me guys. I do more than enough for my mom. I just tried my best to handle everything well and sometimes allow her have her ways with her demands so she doesn’t see my wife as a stumbling block to her.
To cut the long story short, my wife took in and was due for delivery and her mother came like a month before the delivery. Actually my wife had a false labour that made us rush to the hospital and doctor said she has very high maleria and was in serious labor. I called the mother immediately and she started coming the next morning because she lives in the East. The doctor gave her some injections and drugs for the maleria and the labor stopped. Doctor told us it wasn’t the right time for the baby to come out because it was 8 months. The next morning when she was strong, we went back home with the mother that was already in town.
The mother decided to stay till the delivery instead of going back and coming again when she delivers which I supported. Two weeks the doctor gave us turned to 1 month and labor didn’t still come. All these while I never knew my mom was so bitter that my mother inlaw was in my house for that long. She once asked me why the woman didn’t go and come back. It was that bad. To make matters worse, I lost my child after a CS was done on my wife. It appeared the baby was in distress which the doctors failed to notice and came out with birth asphyxia. After about two weeks, she died. I opened a thread on that.
Problem started after I buried my child. Everyone was in sorrow and so much pains especially my wife. A day after the burial my mother called my mother inlaw and asked her why she hasn’t gone yet. Started accusing the woman of killing the child and all manners of things. How she had turned her husband to vegetable and now she wants to teach her daughter how to turn her son into vegetable too. It was really bad. They both insulted each other and quarreled seriously on the phone just a day after the lost of my child. She also called my wife and told her “shebi she doesn’t want children” my wife was quiet and didn’t utter a word.
I was in so much pain and so pissed at my mom for everything she did and didn’t even speak to her for like a month even though I still sent her upkeep money. I reported her to her uncle and a few respected people. I don’t know if they talked to her but nothing was done. No body called for any meeting even her own pastor that I reported to. Instead he told me it’s woman talk. That they both insulted each other and the rest..
After that incident till date. My wife, mother, and mother inlaw haven’t spoken to each other even though I have had more peace since then but the fact still remains my mom and wife are not in good terms. I have long forgiven and moved on with my mom even though that closeness is not there but I don’t fail to send her money for upkeep every month. My wife is cool with it and said she doesn’t want that closeness with my mom even though she has forgiven her too.
My mom and I talks once in a while and never for once has she asked about my wife since that incident and my wife hasn’t called either which I don’t blame her. The last time I visited my mom. She said some ill things about my wife and her family and even told me my wife is not my rightful wife and some other things. I usually don’t listen to her talks because I know how religion has turned so many people into something else.
The question right now guys. What do I do in this situation. The truth is nothing can change my moms mind about my wife and her family. But still as a husband, I still feel somehow knowing my wife and mom are not in good terms. My mother inlaw the last time told me she wants to make peace with my mom that they can’t keep fighting forever especially because of her daughter. But deep down I know the thought my mom have about them. So I just told her it’s not the right time and with time everything will be fine. I can’t force my wife to call my mom because she didn’t do no wrong. At the same time my mom won’t even listen to me for any peace making. There are more things to say but I will end here. Sorry for the long write up. Your opinions would be deeply appreciated. Thank you 🙏
I think the best bet is for you and your wife to have another baby to persuade your mother that there is nothing wrong going on. A child should also soften your mother's heart. In the meantime continue to manage things as you have, honestly I cannot fault you for how you have handled things so far, you did your best under the circumstances.
salvation77177: Hello, The cbn portal to deposit old naira makes room for individual and corporate organization to deposit the old money. The corporate section is asking for TIN . Church is registered as a charity organizations and I don't think they have Tax identification number (TIN). In this case how can church deposit their old offering money?
I don't see why a church would have a problem depositing their old notes. I am pretty sure CBN has planned for tax exempt organisations.
Corrections: Christians are happy people who are always thankful (grateful ) to God. Scientific evidence suggests that being happy has major benefits for your health. A vast scientific literature has detailed how negative emotions harm the body. Serious, sustained stress or fear can alter biological systems in a way that, over time, adds up to “wear and tear” and, eventually, illnesses such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Chronic anger and anxiety can disrupt cardiac function by changing the heart’s electrical stability, hastening atherosclerosis, and increasing systemic inflammation.
God's words are always green and they can never fade away from one generation to another. God's Word is like water that falls to the ground, it will surely accomplish its task (softening the ground ) before returning to where it came from ( the atmosphere).
Matt. 24:35 “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.” It is also found in Isaiah 40:8
Therefore, all of God's words are not ordinary, they have a task or purpose to perform in a man's life. Those who listen to them will live.
John 5:25 “And I assure you that the time is coming, indeed it’s here now, when the dead will hear my voice—the voice of the Son of God. And those who listen will live.
Now, the Bible, which contains the word of God, says in the book of 1thessalonians 5:18 ''it says that we should thank God always.
1 Thessalonians 5:18 NLT “In everything give thanks; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. ”
It is now clearer that the reason why God is giving this command is for our own good. It is evident that sickness has easy access into a man's life that is full of hopelessness. Hopelessness is a feeling or state of despair; lack of hope ( you can not help yourself and nobody can help you ). When you give thanks to God for your challenges, you are simply saying there is hope for you. You are simply saying that there is a supreme being ( God ) who is stronger than you and your challenge and can therefore help you where you can not help yourself. When you have this reality of hope, you become happy emotionally and hopeful. The good news is that when you are happy and hopeful, God through the power of his word, heals your wound and fortifies your body against sickness.
Romans 15:13 I pray that God, who gives hope, will bless you with complete happiness and peace because of your faith. And may the power of the Holy Spirit fill you with hope.
The mission of the devil is to steal, destroy and kill. The devil steals from people. What the Devil can not steal, it simply kills it, and what it can not kill then it destroys. The devil achieves this easily by fighting your ability to be thankful to God ( appreciative ) thereby creating a scenario where it is all about yourself fighting the Devil alone ( a battle you can not win ). The Devil fights and over powers you to a point that you can not help yourself, let alone anybody helping you ( become hopeless ).
It is therefore, very important for the Children of God through our Lord Jesus Christ or Christians to always express their gratitude to God for all He has done, He is doing and will still do. When we do this, we acknowledge that God is our hope, because God is stronger than us and our adversary, the Devil. This enables God to give us hope and happiness, which in return heal our wounds and fortify us against sickness.
Scientifically proven but you provide no scientific proof. SMH.
TenQ: You don't know where everything came from BUT you are sure it Didn't come from "the SOURCE" aka God!? Meaning that you know elsewhere other that "the SOURCE" aka God where everything came from. Isn't this true?
If you are not planning evil, why your emotional outbursts?
Like I said I don't know where the universe came from, maybe a god created it but I am sure that god is not the one you believe in.
LMAO! Says the one going on tantrums and relying on false stereotypes. Bwahahahahaha!
Sometimes privilege doesn't know when to STFU. Imagine trying to use this as a way to identify with the man on the street as if everybody has someone they can go beg 2mil from. SMH.
TenQ: No sir. You are the one who have the warped, stupid and illogical idea that everything manufactured itself from nothing.
Tell me, are you planning of being totally evil?
LMAO, suddenly you've added lying to your repertoire or can you quite one place I have said I believe everything manufactured itself from nothing? Of course you can't but because you are bereft of any logical moves you've become a liar. Bwahahahahaha!
You are acting like a pitiful little child throwing a tantrum, it's sad to see you debase yourself like this.
TenQ: If you think so, it is your opinion not mine.
The wicked are Rejected until the pay in full for their WICKEDNESS!
Are you looking for hope of redemption from your wickedness? You want to live a life of no accountability!?
It's your call bro, not mine!
Same way it's you call in all the other hells you don't believe in. Bwahahahahaha.
BTW it's not just my opinion, you have continual expressed that your god is nothing but a primitive idea stuck in primitive times and primitive ways of thinking, that's on you bro. LoLz.
TenQ: Just as you have tortured others! Pay back time bro!
You're only reaping what you've sowed in the "dustbin" for the rejected
Retribution is not paying any dues. Are the victims of theft compensated by the torture? Do the victims of rape get their dignity back from the torture? What due is the tortured person paying?
Hell is a simplistic vision from simplistic folk so your god follows the same pattern. And instead of elevating yourself from primitive ideas you regress. SMH.
LottiOk: I really admire the energy, time & patience you have in schooling these psychotic patients of yabaleft on the loose here on NL religious section. Your replies are always logical & straight foward for that anyone including the fruitcake you address can't dispute without sounding more foolish. And even lacing it with sarcasm always makes me not want to miss any of them. Look Jaephonix you,Lordreed,hopefullandlors,Maymann,knownunknown & any other atheists here are my hero's & deserve national awards for how you school the demented fruitcakes here. Infact I wish I could order a full trailer load of chilled hienken with goat meat peppersoup for you guys. I've learnt so much from you guys ever since I stumbled upon NL religious section in 2020. You guys helped me come out from the closer as an Atheist & av never regreted taken such bold step despite d backlash I've faced & still facing. I must admit I'm not as learned or enlightened as you guys are but soon I'll try & contact you guys personally to share more books & knowledge with me. You guys make me so proud to be an Atheist & I wish you guys more success in all your endeavours + more grease to your elbows as you school these cretards that know deep down within them you are making sense but the cognitive disonace they suffer from won't let them admit they are wrong.
Keep up the good work guys & continue to Pepper them with logical reasoning.
Thanks for the compliment! LoLz.
Just to reiterate what jaephoenix said, there is no singular book or books for atheism. I didn't even read any atheist written book until much latter and it wasn't even about atheism. LoLz. Just open you mind to the depth and breath of knowledge available especially on the internet and learn to think critically. Don't be afraid to look into any subject but always come at it with a skeptical mind so that you don't get sucked into pitfalls of dogmatic thinking. For me it has been an interesting journey and I hope yours is too.
TenQ: What I mean is, if the two conditions are true, then such a God must have a place of punishment for those who hurt others and derive their joy in the misery of others.
Why does the god need a place of punishment? You mean reform is entirely out of the god's capability?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Do Dead People Go? by LordReed(m): 11:31am On Feb 21, 2023
always makes me not want to miss any of them. Look Jaephonix you,Lordreed,hopefullandlors,Maymann,knownunknown & any other atheists here are my hero's & deserve national awards for how you school the demented fruitcakes here. Infact I wish I could order a full trailer load of chilled hienken with goat meat peppersoup for you guys. I've learnt so much from you guys ever since I stumbled upon NL religious section in 2020. You guys helped me come out from the closer as an Atheist & av never regreted taken such bold step despite d backlash I've faced & still facing. I must admit I'm not as learned or enlightened as you guys are but soon I'll try & contact you guys personally to share more books & knowledge with me. You guys make me so proud to be an Atheist & I wish you guys more success in all your endeavours + more grease to your elbows as you school these cretards that know deep down within them you are making sense but the cognitive disonace they suffer from won't let them admit they are wrong.