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MaxInDHouse:
Nobody expects sound reasoning from atheists nah! Those believing they descended from APES?

So sound you can't even respond properly, you start drifting into everywhere but the question in hand. LMAO!

MaxInDHouse:
How many countries aren't using the Bible or Qur'an in their court of law?
That's what will make you know that your hummurabi is not credible hence it's never mentioned in any court of law during hearing!

Is that the question before us? You said they used the Bible to formulate constitution yet cannot name even 1 nation so I guess by your own standards what you are saying is not credible. LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
I guess you woke up on the wrong side of the bed
When did I ever mention your name for stupid questions. There's nothing meaningful you ever contributed on this group even for fellow atheists like you to learn from

You well know some of the laws of the TEN COMMANDMENTS and they guide principle of many constitution and customs and tradition in the World. You can't even mention anything in your imaginary code. Is that what guides atheists? You'd better go back to bed

You mention my name all the time for stupid questions but I humour you. Now that you want raise your heckles at me because of what someone else said then you should take your own advice.

MaxInDHouse:
So your hummurabi case isn't worthwhile, that's why no nation ever reference it as rules used to formulate their constitution rather they all used the Bible!

Name the nations that used the Bible to form their constitution then.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you the purpose of quotations you can ignore that part since you have nothing to do with it but as long as you're chatting with me i will always quote the source of the wisdom in me!

Then you will get brain cracking questions as a response. So suck it up.

Aemmyjah:
The written laws wa written by God himself on the Mount of Sinai on a tablet and then, the israelites has no land on their own, they just crossed the red sea. Stop quoting my name for nonsense
Why do you ask?
Go and follow your code

LoLz. I assume you will do same right. Don't quote me with nonsense too like fairytales of gods writing on stone. LMAO.

MaxInDHouse:
You must bring in the fathers of each person mentioned in the so called history to prove that the story is credible like what is found written in the book that says "in the beginning" anything short of that means fabrications to me which is not credible!

LoLz! Shifting of goal posts. When did I argue with you here about credibility? If I want to destroy the credibility of your book I won't be talking about the Code of Hammurabi, I will use your book itself so pipe low and focus on what we are discussing which is date written.

Jaylite10:
Please guys I need urgent and mature response to this issue.

I am a graduate and currently working as a real estate broker in Abuja.

Recently a friend of mine who happened to be my brother in-law told me of a job offer in portharcourt at a company( an international company persay) who were ready to pay him in dollars every week.

The problem was that he has to pay N650k for international working documents, dollar account and other stuffs to commence training.

I don't know what happened next, I later heard he's there already and he wants to create opportunity for me too.

So he requested for my details which I sent to him. Lately yesterday he called telling me I was confirmed for the job replacement and I also have to pay N650k to get the job.

I didn't say anything to him yet aside telling him I'll get back to him.

I'm having a double feeling about this seeing the fact that this is someone I know in person, that's why I brought it here.

Thank you guys!

Scam.

MaxInDHouse:
My response is not only meant for you rather it's for all those following so it's necessary i include Bible reference!

You can make a separate response without quoting me then. It's absurd to respond by quoting me then getting antsy when I interact with your response.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is the father to this one?

Oga I have satisfied your condition as you clearly stated.

MaxInDHouse:
The humumrabi and sinmuballit case is inconclusive lacking credibility until the fabricators find out who is the father of Sinmuballit o!

I told you there was never any written laws until the God of Israel gave Moses the laws he read in the hearing of Israelites. The fabricators of your Hummurabi code forgot to cover their tracks because we know that humans give birth to humans so who is the father of Sinmuballit?

My own questions and points you refused to address instead you want to focus on endless genealogy. LoLz.

HellVictorinho6:
They're saying at the time



Do you think there's a time when a certain God did anything?

When a certain God was concerned with anyone?

Of course not, I allow somethings be to advance the discourse.

Ken4Christ:
God in his infinite mercy still gives them divine backing occasionally because of the covenant he made with Abraham. But he is not fully committed to them in this dispensation until he is done with this church age.

So basically you are guessing because you claimed they were no longer under the god's cover now you claim they have it occasionally which means you to guess when the so called divine backing will kick in.

Dtruthspeaker:
The code of Hammurabi was written before the Bible was compiled and called "the Bible" and not before the Bible was written.

Check the date Max gave for when Genesis was written, its 250years+ after the Code of Hammurabi was written.

MaxInDHouse:
The verses aren't for you since you don't believe the book it's for whoever believes so when i quote the Bible it's for those that may like to reason as believers not atheists like you.

Then don't quote it as a response to me, simple.

MaxInDHouse:
The humumrabi and sinmuballit case is inconclusive lacking credibility until the fabricators find out who is the father of Sinmuballit o!

I told you there was never any written laws until the God of Israel gave Moses the laws he read in the hearing of Israelites. The fabricators of your Hummurabi code forgot to cover their tracks because we know that humans give birth to humans so who is the father of Sinmuballit?

Sin-Muballit's father was Apil-Sin so condition satisfied. LMAO!

Kobojunkiee:
Nah! Most of the nations that existed at the time instead had constitutions that Israel's - The National Constitution of the State of Israel - was likely derived from or at least mirrored to some extent. The Nation started out as a nation of men, not gods and so the Constitution was designed for living in the land of men even as they were urged to rise to become gods by obeying also the special laws of God as a Nation.

MaxInDHouse, Dtruthspeaker, Aemmyjah this is for you.

MsJackson:
Good morning house. I need your opinion on this issue.

Around May last year, my husband and I went with my 4 year old daughter to visit my sister in-law (hubby's elder sister). They insisted they wanted her to stay some days with them, that I should return for her in two or three days time.

After much persuasion from my oga, I left her. But my heart wasn't settled because I've never stayed away from her for that long.
I just noticed that when we called her on video call the very next morning, she looked and sounded depressed, telling us to come take her home. I just thought she was missing me.

I returned the next three days to pick her up. It was even the oldest cousin, a 15 year old girl, who was actually very fond of my daughter that helped me carry her on her back and saw us off to the bustop.

Two or 3 months later, at the end of a Bible study I had with her, my baby said she wanted to tell me something. Hubby was lying on the couch. My baby said the period I took her to that house, the 15 year old girl was always sucking her vagina. My brain shut down immediately. Her dad jumped from the couch and told her to repeat what she just said. She did. She also said that the girl usually holds her mouth close during the act, and that she beats the girl on the head to stop what she was doing, but the girl refused and beat my daughter back.

I broke down. Hubby had never become so mad at his family to the extent of turning his back on them, to the extent of shutting his dad up, but he did all these because his only child was involved.

The family, they all said my daughter was lying. My question is: can a four year old lie about such? The nature of this supposed lie. I don't think so. But all the family members said my daughter lied. And even the girl denied it.
They are totally refusing to address this. They even after some weeks have codedly believe such happened and have called my husband to beg, hubby said so, I don't know if it's true or not. But me the wife, NOBODY, I REPEAT, NOBODY CALLED ME. Like I am nothing in their eyes. Not even the evil mother that insisted my daughter spent some days with them. It's not like if they called me to apologize it would change the past, no, but I might have some tiny relief.

My daughter talks about that experience till date. Even up till yesterday. I am beyond heartbroken. I can't forgive.

The family all turned their face away. Nobody cared to address it, even his parents. I'm thinking of going to their church to expose her because I hear the 15 year old girl is getting baptized next week. Hubby told me to forget about it, his brother told me not to try it. But anytime my daughter remembers this incident and brings it up, I become very disturbed. I don't know what to do.

Please advise me.

What rubbish! This is a criminal offense and if i was in this position na police straight to get that girl arrested and charged since my family no wan get sense.

Ken4Christ:
You are not a student of the Bible.

God is only committed to his covenant with the Jews when they keep the ways. He personally hand them over to destruction whenever they violate the law given to them.

To make things worse, they rejected the Messiah God sent to them.

So, they are not under divine cover after the resurrection of Christ. This explains why they are easily vulnerable to attack.

But he will redeem them in the future after the reign of the anti Christ and judge all the nations that came against them.

Yet they quite surprisingly won the 7 days war so I guess they don't really need the god to wad off attackers right?

MaxInDHouse:
Quote yours first let's see!

Quote what again na. You quoted bible verses that do not rhyme with what you are saying so why am I supposed to quote my own? LoLz. Na wa o.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're doing a sound job i will confirm as you too can confirm what i quoted in the Bible so we can then find out which of the nation in the east is making use of this instead of Mosaic laws claiming Christians or Muslims!

Oga that was not my claim. You are the one claiming that nations used the bible to formulate their CONSTITUTIONS yet could not name a single nation. You instead came to say that "There was never any constitution WRITTEN until the God of Israel gave the Israelites laws and that's where all other nations derived these rules. Nothing like universal laws!" Which is why I said the Code of Hammurabi predates your bible so don't get it twisted.

MaxInDHouse:
If you can't paste it leave it because i pasted the Bible's laws most countries around the world are using till today.
You can verify it in any copy of the Bible so paste it if truly the so called book makes sense!

I can't paste the entire thing na, spambot will ban me but here are some:

1. If a man bring an accusation against a man, and charge him with a (capital) crime, but cannot prove it, he, the accuser, shall be put to death.
2. If a man charge a man with sorcery, and cannot prove it, he who is charged with sorcery shall go to the river, into the river he shall throw himself and if the river overcome him, his accuser shall take to himself his house (estate). If the river show that man to be innocent and he come forth unharmed, he who charged him with sorcery shall be put to death. He who threw himself into the river shall take to himself the house of his accuser.
3. If a man, in a case (pending judgment), bear false (threatening) witness, or do not establish the testimony that he has given, if that case be a case involving life, that man shall be put to death.
4. If a man (in a case) bear witness for grain or money (as a bribe), he shall himself bear the penalty imposed in that case.

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to know it's not difficult!

All humans are imperfect so there is no group of perfect worshipers.
Then to know Jesus' true disciples what people need to look out for is not perfection in those practicing Christianity rather their competency in the assignment he gave his disciples.

Jesus made it clear that from the day of John the baptist things generally will continue to get tougher {Matthew 11:12} so most people will devote their time for money making {Matthew 6:19-21} but despite the hard condition Jesus' true disciples will continue to be orderly and well organized preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood! Matthew 24:11-14

So no matter how rich or poor they are true disciples of Christ will be noticed globally devoting their time for the preaching and teaching campaign about God's Kingdom just as the founder of their group! Act 1:8


That's the one and only way to know the true Christian group!

LoLz! Did you even read any of the verses you quoted cos they don't match what you are saying.

MaxInDHouse:
So do you have details of the laws?

See them for yourself:

LordReed:
Read it for yourself:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Code_of_Hammurabi_(Harper_translation)

Aemmyjah:
When he mentioned some of the TEN COMMANDMENTS
Show us proof that it was written in another nations constitution as Israel was not the only nation at the time
You cook up one yeye code

LoLz! Why would I do that when that was not my argument? Did you even read what I wrote?

Aemmyjah:
The discredit the Bible and other so called sacred books but when they are asked to discredit bible. They mention another book or code they know nothing about

LoLz. Can you articulate exactly what it is you are griping about?

MaxInDHouse:
These people don't know how many enemies the Bible has that are hiding in secret they just thought it's by bringing any information that can't be verified with date, name and family background of the author!

LoLz! I gave you name and date so what are you on about?

Aemmyjah:
I'm not interested sir
You read the laws Max wrote based in what he knew
You saw what Truthspeaker did as well
Neither of them asked you to go to the scriptures but they could have done so
You mentioned one unknown code and unverified date
Since you know much about the book, tell us something about it let all in the forum see

You are funny. I give you the entire text of the Code but you want me to quote it, to what end? Is the argument about what is written in the book or when it was written?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is the father of this so called king nah?

Sin-Muballit was his name.

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't have reliable information yet you jumped in to argue, shey?

Well who is the author?
From what tribe and who are his contemporaries?

Is that you can't read or what exactly is your problem?

LordReed:
Code of Hammurabi

The Code of Hammurabi is a Babylonian legal text composed c. 1755–1750 BC. It is the longest, best-organised, and best-preserved legal text from the ancient Near East. It is written in the Old Babylonian dialect of Akkadian, purportedly by Hammurabi, sixth king of the First Dynasty of Babylon. The primary copy of the text is inscribed on a basalt stele 2.25 m (7 ft 41⁄2 in) tall.
The stele was rediscovered in 1901 at the site of Susa in present-day Iran, where it had been taken as plunder six hundred years after its creation. The text itself was copied and studied by Mesopotamian scribes for over a millennium. The stele now resides in the Louvre Museum.

In what year was the bible written?

Aemmyjah:
As if he's seen or read anything in that book. Whether na book or na code
I am not interested in who wrote it or the year. Let him tell us the content or theme of the book

Aemmyjah:
Tell us the content of the book/code

Read it for yourself:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Code_of_Hammurabi_(Harper_translation)

MaxInDHouse:
What is the NAME of it's writer nah?

The first book of the BIBLE (Genesis) was written by Moses the great grandson of Levi one of the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham.
He began writing it in the year 1513 BCE.

Read what I posted the name is right there.

The Code of Hammurabi was written between 1755-1750BC, that's more than 250years before what you are giving for your Moses writing Genesis (I only accept for sake of argument, there's all sorts of problem with that but let's leave it for another day).

MaxInDHouse:
What's the name of it's writer and what year?

You people don't know why the Author of the Bible (God) made sure that each of His secretaries penned down their names and dates each writer lived on this planet!

Code of Hammurabi

The Code of Hammurabi is a Babylonian legal text composed c. 1755–1750 BC. It is the longest, best-organised, and best-preserved legal text from the ancient Near East. It is written in the Old Babylonian dialect of Akkadian, purportedly by Hammurabi, sixth king of the First Dynasty of Babylon. The primary copy of the text is inscribed on a basalt stele 2.25 m (7 ft 41⁄2 in) tall.
The stele was rediscovered in 1901 at the site of Susa in present-day Iran, where it had been taken as plunder six hundred years after its creation. The text itself was copied and studied by Mesopotamian scribes for over a millennium. The stele now resides in the Louvre Museum.

In what year was the bible written?