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OLAADEGBU:
Why has the living fossil not evolved since it's existence "400 millions" of years ago? It remains the same today. I wonder what happened to your so called evolution.

LoLz! Where does the theory say that living organisms must change into something sleep and no longer exist? I am sure you know what a strawman is, because this your argument is full of it.

OLAADEGBU:
Selective reading at play again. If you look closely under the heading "Major Carbon-14 Deficiency In Modern Snail Shells From Nevada Springs." You can't miss it unless you look with eyes closed.

So? How does it prove that the earth is not millions of years old?

OLAADEGBU:
Lottery is a game of chance and God does not play dice.

But that's the argue you made: it can't be chance because the odds are very low yet we see low chance odds happening.

OLAADEGBU:
Selective reading. Let me spell it out for you since you choose not to see it. "Science vol. 224, 1984, pp., code > 58-61." And that's if you are interested in finding out because I know your mind is already made up.

OK. Looked it up and it doesn't say what you say it says.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1692887

HISSCRIBE1995:
I Understand .

Stories don't buy bread
But they can inspire you to find the money to buy one.

The gospel is bigger than stories .
It is the opening of the blind eyes
Healing the brokenhearted
Setting free the captive
And delivering those who've been appointed for death .

But the basis for all of that is to point you to somebody -Jesus
So that's where the stories came from
If you get healed we've got to tell you on whose account that happened
If you got saved we have to tell you who save you .

Myself am tired of stories
All I want know is life not words
But it is written that
John 1:1-5
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2]He was in the beginning with God.
[3]All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
[4]In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
[5]And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. John’s Witness:

So life sometimes or most times is communicated through words
Through stories

Be healed .

Glad you know stories don't buy bread. And as I said I require evidence for your god and so far I haven't been presented with any. All I see are human beings trying to do the best they can in an uncertain world, no benevolent god is doing anything of note so until you can present me with evidence for this your god I'm really not interested.

OLAADEGBU:
You are proof that atheist evolutionists are either lazy or not interested in checking up facts. A reference was given for the quote "Shells from living snails were carbon dated as being 27, 000 years old." Instead for you to check the reference given up you jumped to the conclusion that it was a wrong method. You cannot deny that that quote does not exist in your "science" book.

What reference? A picture from Facebook? LMAO!

OLAADEGBU:
Why should I waste my time arguing with you with your vicious cycle that says the fossils is dated by the rock and the rock is dated by the fossils?

LoLz! That is not what I said so of course you are arguing with yourself.

HISSCRIBE1995:
You know :
one of the major problem with atheism is that : you guys claim there is no God because you haven't seen him Bla Bla Bla .

Yet you've met folks who've had different encounterd with God and the spirit realm .

Do you think all of those guys would be interested in lying to the public ?
Do you think all of them are wrong ?
Have mental health issues or were just hallucinating ?

Man !
Folks have seen what you've seen ,
Knows what you know
Heard what you've heard
Studied what you've studied .

At that plane you guys could be equally present evidences for you argument because you derive them from the same source
( which is the physical world )

But then some folk were privileged to encounter what is beyond the natural realm.
They've met different spiritual entities and have traveled into different dimensions of the supernatural realm .
These guys came and told there stories and you said
"Where is your evidence ?
The evidence is supernatural ,and spiritual.
You can't see it in the natural or better still with natural receptacles Or senses .
You've got to be spiritual befor you can lay hold of the realities in the spirit realm .

You can only see the influence of the spirit realm with your natural receptacles .
you can't see the spirit realm itself with your physical eyes .

It's like when a physically blind man is asking to be shown is bride's face that was told him looks beautiful .

No matter how he tries as far as he is still in that state of blindness he can't see her face even if she is right there be for him .

You are spiritually blind yet want to be shown an evidence that is spiritual ?

Deal with the blindness first !
The blindness of the heart ,
and then look from within you spirit ,and not from those balls hanging in front of your head .
With those two balls You can barely see the person standing behind the person who stood in front of you talk less of seeing into the future that awaits you .

If you keep trusting to navigate the path of destiny with them then you would miss the way of eternal life .

Or would you deny the wisdom which says

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
[14]But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
[15]But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
[16]Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

I am living my life well and clear of any belief in god or religion and so far it has been just fine. Meanwhile when you are able to provide unequivocal evidence of your god I will gladly take a look, I am not interested in stories.

Dtruthspeaker:
The meaning of analogy already tells you that it is doing the same thing a dictionary is doing which is to explain things.

I said produce the dictionary meaning that says so, not interested in stories.

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you lie for analogies are the use of practical things.

I don't need to lie like you do for your god and religion. Produce a dictionary definition of analogy that agrees with your assertion.

HisSplendor:
I think you have a closed mind. You love to be sealed away from obvious facts.

All atheists quickly look for their own framed excuses to disprove anything related to God.

The truth is that Atheists aren't concerned or care to know whether God exists or not. That isn't the problem. The problem is that they hate God and would do everything to deny His existence.

Judging from what I've reading from atheists on this thread, atheists would still hold on to godlessness even if Darwin was to return from the grave to disprove his own evolution theory.

I think there's a demon of destruction directly and deliberately working in the minds of some people to seal their fate in eternal damnation. This same demon propels them to blaspheme even against the rules of their own conscience.

What obvious facts? Dating methods are used depending on the material being examined and have specific limitations. When you use the one that is not for a certain material you are guaranteed a wrong result, there's nothing to close off here, you are wrong simple.

HisSplendor:
Then you belong to the third group.

Except as far as we know death is the end so even if I say we shall see, it's practically meaningless. I choose to focus on my life now, not dreaming of what will come after I die, when it's not something I can even know.

HisSplendor:
You only don't know what may happen after death. The similarities between you and those city people is that:

1. You both have not taken the journey before.

2. You both don't have anyone who has gone there and returned.

3. You both don't know what to expect on that journey.

4. You both are hearing rumours about what may be encountered on that journey.

Except the rumors are by people who also have not taken the journey before in our case so we are all staring at an UNKNOWN. You believe the rumors, I don't.

HellVictorinho6:
Before Xmas?


Am getting mentally exhausted

I am not sure when, I'll let you know.

Dtruthspeaker:
And analogies is a way of seeing things that is impossible to see because of natural limitations

Which is not the definition of practical.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your phone and it's manufacturer and their manuals and your knowledge of manufacturers and their products, is also a practical way

That's is called an analogy since I didn't ask you about phones.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have no right to dictate how I show you are wrong.

LoLz! I mentioned a practical way to show I am wrong, you brought useless analogy yet you want to drag. Bwahahahahaha!

OLAADEGBU:
EVOLUTIONARY SCIENTISTS SAY CARBON DATING IS RELIABLE,

And can help prove millions of years. Well, this is just one of many, many goofs!

We live on a young, created Earth.

Source

By using a method that is guaranteed to give a false result. Genius. LMAO!

Maynman:
Already sent the definition of experience to you, Keep masturbating, experience is the best teacher.

LoLz! OK oh.

Maynman:
Bwahahahah, epistemology because i said masturbation is not natural, you were so disturbed by it that you had to quote me in a masturbating thread asking about my “epistemology”?
Keep masturbating bro. Experience is the best teacher.

Explain what experience is the best teacher means since you say I don't know what it means.

Maynman:
You don’t know what the phrase “experience is the best teacher” means
Channelling all these energy because of masturbation.
Bwahahahah

LoLz! This is not about masturbation but about your epistemology. I haven't even said whether it is good or bad, you are just using it to avoid answering simple questions.

Explain what experience is the best teacher means.

Maynman:
I said experience is the best teacher, not theist experience is the best teacher.

You trying too hard

Theist experience is a subset of experience so how are you able to discard it while saying experience is the best teacher? Are you saying only specific types of experiences are the best teachers?

Maynman:
And do you think I’m an atheist because of science?

I dunno why you are an atheist, what I want to know is how you separate these experiences. You say experience is the best teacher but you are not a theist which means theist experience wasn't able to convince you a god exists.

Maynman:
Experience is the best teacher.
Bwahahahah.

So why aren't you a theist? There's an abundance of people with experience they are willing to share about their god. Why isn't that convincing to you?

Maynman:
Nothing.

LoLz!

kkins25:
Never suspected you to be married though.. hahahha.. Interesting.

I have mentioned it several times before now, maybe you've never seen it.

Exmilitant:
At least these inventions by early men has served some purposes; quenched man's thirst for meaning. And attempt to answer man's many questions concerning our environment.

We have developed better methods of investigating our environment, we can put aside the more primitive aspects of our investigations.

Maynman, what's the difference between you and this OP?

Dtruthspeaker:
A dead phone may not know anything after its death but when it's Maker's Manual shows that the phone can always be repaired, then the dead phone is supposed to know, if it read and understood it's Manufacturers Manual, that it cannot die unless and until it's Manufacturer destroys it.

I have stated how you can show I am wrong, your analogy is not useful to me.

kkins25:
i did not suggest another wife did i??

Whatever you are suggesting, I am not interested since I have a wife. So thanks but no thanks.

Gnosis777:
Interesting write up. Here's my humble take on things. When I hear about people being oppressed by demons or engaged in some type of spiritual battle with demons/negative entities or whatever you want to call them; I notice that a lot of these experiences are shared by people who consider themselves Christians and therefore the write up usually includes references to biblical scriptures, advice to pray and so on.

Personally, and before I say this, it is not my intent to offend anyone or cause confusion when I say this. But, I feel that "God" seems to be a god of duality and that it seems to operate like a mob boss by using these demons or negative entities to torment humans in an effort to "force" them to submit and worship it. I've heard Christians say things like, "God will allow demons to oppress you in order to get your attention or bring you closer to him." In my opinion, this seems like some sort of mob rule behavior. So basically, a person is tormented and stalked by these entities until they give up and run to God for help or to be "saved." So, whatever happened to the concept of "Free will" and the right to choose whether or not we want to serve God? Again, how is it really free will if God will allow negative entities/demons to harass a person and essentially force a person to worship him? I don't know, but something about this has never sat right with me.

It's an observation that has been made over and over again with no clear answer as to why a loving god, as the Christians like to depict the god, would engage in such Machivellian stratagem. Of course by necessity the god is not available to make his motivations clearer, all we have is other people saying this is the work of the god.

Kobojunkie:
First, nightmares are the minds way of resolving emotional trauma and other stresses you may have bottled up. I have had tons of those in my past and have learnt over time to sift through the contents of the nightmare and my mind to locate the possible problem point.

I don't know what the source of the voices you claim to hear are but one thing I am certain of is that the voice is not of God.

Isaiah 35 speaks both of the time of Jesus Christ and the time of His return and reign over Jerusalem, and the nations of the world. So, I cannot explain to you your fixation on that chapter at all.

God's call to mankind is through Jesus Christ, His New agreement and Law in the Kingdom of God. He has not called us by His Old Covenant Law of Moses - the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel which He constituted in the Land of Canaan- , which He gave only to those who are of the blood of Israel. So when you have voices in your head luring you with claims that center around that God gave only to Israel in the Land of Canaan, you immediately know it isn't God doing any such.

My suggestion is that you take a vacation from your religious rites and rituals. Try to free your mind from what seems a cage it currently has been in. Give yourself about a month of freedom from all of it. And see then if the symptoms still exist. If yes, please proceed to seeking the aide of a professional mental health therapist as those voices may be signs of some thing serious.

You are so reasonable sometimes I'm baffled by how you can believe the things you do concerning the god and the bible. May be someday you'll be able to explain it in a way I can understand.