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Atimjessy:
I just signed up on nairaland today so I can just pour out my mind.
I have been coming to this site for almost a year now because this is where I get latest and trending news.
I live with my brother who cares about me a lot but he has been too strict with me. I FEEL CAGED! Can you imagine I don't have a Facebook account, I can't use WhatsApp, I don't even have a bank account. If someone wants to send me money, I usually use our neighbor's son account.
He monitors my calls and contact list.
I only use e-mail because he said I will be using it for future registrations.
I envy my friends a lot. I'm in my mid-teens.
I am just fed up.

What do you need Facebook and WhatsApp for? Shouldn't you be studying for your WAEC/JAMB/UTME?

HardMirror:
you are a shameless liar. You categorically said God did not listen to Rachel but her husband. Damn! Your lies are pathetic

I call him Mr Obfuscationist. He will see blue and say its a lighter shade of black then claim he has won. So childish.

useni1:
You are undergoing the highest stage of brainwashing. Western education in form of University is the downfall of man. It makes someone stupid and easily manipulated.

Says the guy being manipulated by Russian propaganda. Russia can occupy Europe in 72hrs and it is taking them weeks to take over Ukraine? Put on your thinking cap mehn.

hupernikao:
I am good here.

Do you understand theology or the supernatural? They are the basis of clear evidence to give. But if you don't, my explanation will be like one explaining the existence of skyscrapers to a man who hasn't seen more than a bungalow before. He will struggle to believe until he experiences it.


But to help in the simplest way,

The 2nd response on thread is the best answer you should think on.

By ayoncox



Your rebuttal to his post inst strong enough and full of assumptions.

You assumed

1. That anyone can literally look up and identify the Venus. But we know it's not so, even when you can literally see it, it doesn't mean you know what it is, you can as well assumed it's just another star, or stone flying in the air, it takes education of it to know its a planet.

Same, it takes spiritual education to know this is God, even when you literally experience his graciousness everyday, you can always assume it's not God, but coincidence and skills. But proper education will clear that.

2. You likewise assumed, we can go to the space now and see evidence of venus but you forgot to state that this happened overtime in humans existence. It is a process of time.

Men had denied the water body of the earth.
Men had denied the shape of the earth

But all these were healed in process of time.

That spiritual education to know God will get to you and all, it is just a process of time, which can likewise at worst, be resolved in eternity.

That's what ayoncox is expressing to you.

In other words I don't know that the evidence I am looking at evinces a god and I need some type of education to know that the evidence evinces a god?

Heartbroken05:
Good morning nairaland families.

I have been in a relationship with my gf for the past 8years and this year I planned to Marry her.

Last year, I took her to my sis to learn her business which she did and my sis showed her everything in 3 months, which should have take upto a year for someone to complete learning. I begged my sis to show everything about the business and take her to where she buy her goods. I finally opened a shop for her after 3 months and she started doing well.

There is this a guy she usually talk to but always tell me he is just a mere friend who makes her laugh only not until recently I suspected something must be attached. I had argument with her this December which resulted slapping her slightly twice. I really felt bad and quickly apologize and also told my people to beg her on my behalf.

But since then she has been acting so strangely, so recently, I call this my girl and the guy pick up and told me she is busy and I should not call her anymore, I was shocked and think this is actually a joke, he told me he knows I'm dating her and he is dating her also and nothing I can do. I was really heart broken and down that day.

But she later chat me that it's nothing to worry about. So recently, I went to pray about this and it was revealed this guy has charmed my GF and he is planning to destroy her. Four different spiritual people said same thing that the girl has been charmed and they had turn her against me by this guy.

I know I shud move on but i really love my gf and I don't want her to regret this later, as I was told she will eventually see the reality soon and will definitely wants to come back. I'm just so sad this is happening to me right now.

Please do you think I should fight this to the end or just leave and watch how this guy will destroy her. The guy has nothing and has been collecting money from her and even tell her to leave the shop I rented for her also.

My no1 advice to anyone in a relationship is do not struggle to be with someone who doesn't want to be with you, it's gonna end in premium tears. Dey your dey and leave her alone.

HardMirror:
better to ignore him and that image guy lest we be wasting our time with kids trolling

Yeah I'm gonna be treating Dtruthspeaker like a kid from now on.

HardMirror:
Lordreed, this guy has a personality disorder. He is lost in lala land

Yeah he certainly has problems, mostly his mental capacity is skewed somehow, I can't imagine that this is an adult we are discussing with. If it is then something is really screwy here.

Dtruthspeaker:
I categorically said, Rachel Got Punished for being evil! "It's there in black and white.

No Road, Loser!

I guess it was your ghost that wrote:

Dtruthspeaker:
He did not Answer her prayers

LoLz!

Image123:
Human wars are senseless and about humans. God's war is judgment, there would be no long thing. He will destroy them with the sword of His mouth, no contest. Nothing like Zelensky and Putin struggles.
Still it is not His will but it is what is going to happen. Imagine if you didn't want to fight with your daughter or friend but she kept hitting you on the face with a bat. You will probably resist or fight back. You don't want to fight but she asked for it and you were hardly left a choice. The will and plan of God is to establish righteousness and peace on God's Earth and that will be done when Jesus Christ comes again. It will be done whether the world likes it or not. Obviously, your colleagues don't seem to want it peacefully so far.

Who is hitting the god in the face with a bat (metaphorically of course)?

NNTR:
It's what covert homo wannabe like him do

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LoLz!

Nice.

GboyegaD:
Yes it is Sir.

Image123:
How can He keep using it if He's hardly involved in it for over 2022 years? The sentences don't add up.

He used it and he is gonna use it. Can you answer the question now?

Image123:
Okay oh. The laws and motives of the Old testament dispensation are different from that of the New testament dispensation. The New Testament contains a grand plan for the salvation of the world (Jews and Gentiles), actually Gentiles especially. And things got sort of ramped up. The standard got much different. Here you love your enemies and even turn the left cheek.
There's a period between the end of the Gentiles dispensation and the literal End of the world. It is called the Eschatologic period. Most of what is in Revelation. i think i just increased your confusion though.

What you did was not answer my questions. Lemme repeat them: If war is not the god's will why does he keep using it? Who is forcing the god to use war?

Dtruthspeaker:
The case i made is not about whether God Answered Rachel's prayer BUT THAT GOD PUNISHED HER.

A REBUTTAL, NEVER IS NEVER THE MAIN COURSE OF A DISPUTE.

AND HE KNOWS IT. BUT YOU KNOW SATAN AND LAW BREAKING GO TWOGATHER!

Secondly, IN DISPUTE WITH YOU, can it be said because God Answered the prayer of Cain, therefore, God did not punish him or will not punish him?


So, you see, No Road here, even if I wanted to enter that road, I can and will still BLOCK IT!

LoLz! You categorically said god didn't answer Rachel, it's there in black and white. Nevermind I know it's hard for you, humility is not a trait you possess. Bwahahahahaha!

Also did you not claim your god doesn’t answer evil people, was Cain not evil so how come the god answered him? LoLz.

Image123:
Eschatologic dispensation. At least thank God we got the Old testament out, right?

We didn't get the OT out unless you are saying it wasn't the god that ordered the Israelites to go to war in the OT.

What does eschatologic dispensation mean? And how does it answer my question?

GboyegaD:
Dinner:

Beans, plantain, and beef.

Is that cheese on the beans?

Image123:
You should have connected it with the OP then. The OP mentioned that we were in a different dispensation or testament. That is how simple it can get i think. i will complicate things by saying all goals are goals but not all goals are counted, for example offside goals.

In which dispensation is Jesus returning with an army of saints?

obonujoker:
War is not of God my brother....

It was the devil and fallen angels (parading themselves as gods i.e Ares Greek God of War); that introduced war into God's creation after the fall of man.

The only battle God is interested in, is the battle of the soul, where it will be at the last day.

You didn't answer the question. Why does the god use war if it is not his will? Who is forcing him to use war?

Image123:
The thread clearly refers to the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine and other similar conflicts. Did you manage to read the OP?

I read the OP but I wasn't responding to the OP, I was responding to obonujoker and your comment, stating that war is not the god's will which you agreed with.

Image123:
Exactly. i find it funny that people somehow try hard to link the war to the Bible and to God.

obonujoker:
God is not siding anyone.

War was not the will of God from the beginning.

Satan and the fallen angels corrupted Man and its progeny.

Jesus is soon coming to end all wars and bring about the heavenly will to the new earth God promised us.

A child of God will be praying for peace and not war

Yet the book says the god ordered the Israelites to go war and the battle of Armageddon is supposedly gonna be Jesus returning with a whole army of saints. If war is not the god's will why does he keep using it? Who is forcing the god to use war?

Dtruthspeaker:
By showing you that in the very verse YOU RAISED of "He hearkened to her," it also said, “God has taken away my disgrace.”.

Then I added 2 more blows

1) She had a very pain filled birth.

2) She confessed The Truth of God's Curse, confessing her 'sorrows"

3) showed you where God Cursed all women who are evil and what MUST happen to them in Proof of God's Curse, all of these, we have seen The Truth thereof.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR ME, YOU DID NOT REBUT.

However, I love Right Fullness, so I see, that you would claim now that you did not appreciate the weight and gravity of my rebuttal So in rightness by rightness of Law/not legal: (Those bastards say and tried to say that once a case is decided, res judicata it can not be revisited again: But Law says, Only upon a justified reasonable ground can it be reopened. That is how far Law is different from the fake law called Legal) )

I must give you an opportunity to rebut if you have any valid rebuttal to make FOR TRUTH DOES NOT CHANGE, EVEN IF IT IS TESTED AND TESTED AGAIN!

So, there, the Court is opened again and the case set down for hearing and continuation.

So, fire away, if you can.

LoLz! You claimed the god didn't listen to her now that you were shown to be wrong you are now changing mouth. The passage I quoted said nothing about painful birth, sorrow or confession of any sort so you didn't answer instead you are trying to hide from the fact that you were mistaken. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
How can you say "I didn't"?

Yet you said "I claimed"?

See, No Road! And Court don Close Since. And you Loooost!!!!

No Appeal and No Re-litigation.

You Loooost!

So, No Road!

LoLz! Let's recap

Dtruthspeaker:
He did not Answer her prayers, He answered Jacob's Disgrace and Embarrassment!

LordReed:
22 Then God remembered Rachel; he listened to her and enabled her to conceive. 23 She became pregnant and gave birth to a son and said, “God has taken away my disgrace.” 24 She named him Joseph, and said, “May the Lord add to me another son.”

Dtruthspeaker:
This is statement shows you!

Secondly, she died by child birth confessing her "sorrows". Genesis 35:18

And what did God Curse again? Genesis 3:16.

Where in this did you respond to "he listened to her"?

Dtruthspeaker:
As I told, it is not the issue, so I will never be answering you on it here. So, you are wasting your time. However, it is your right, to waste your time! So wait on!

LoLz! You said some people are satanic for being incestuous so I wanna know if you extend that to Sarah and of course by association Abraham but sure I get it nobody likes to admit they put their foot in their mouth. Bwahahahahaha!

HardMirror:
lol. The guy sometimes seem to be a troll that is actually intentionally mocking christianity.... sure other Christians are embarrassed by his posts

Seriously.

Dtruthspeaker:
I addressed it the first time and you could not counter, so it is over.

Meanwhile still waiting for the answer to this: Was Sarah satanic for marrying her half brother aka incest?

Dtruthspeaker:
I addressed it the first time and you could not counter, so it is over.

LoLz. You didn't, you claimed god didn't listen to Rachel and after being shown to be wrong instead of admitting your fault you are now claiming you countered me. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
And you took me forward to show that "God remembered Rachel;" which I have now rebutted, as you can not counter.

SO, NOW YOU HAVE CHANGED POST BY DEPARTING FROM WHERE WE HAVE TRAVELLED TO, TO FLEE BACK TO WHERE WE HAVE LEFT TOGETHER, NOW THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU CAN NOT COUNTER.

SO, FOUL! CHANGE OF POST!



In Natural Living.



I have shown you and you saw it, "I will GREATLY MULTIPLY THY SORROWS"

LoLz! Did you miss "he listened to her". Bwahahahahaha OMFA!

NOT THE ISSUE.

Totally the issue. Was Sarah satanic for marrying her half brother aka incest?

Dtruthspeaker:
This is statement shows you!

Secondly, she died by child birth confessing her "sorrows". Genesis 35:18

And what did God Curse again? Genesis 3:16.



We were not given sufficient particulars of her acts, hence why I said, "as is Seen".

I comment from the judgement that the fruit, also proves the Tree.

You claimed the god did not answer her prayer in direct contradiction of what was written in the Bible.

As is seen where? Where in the bible do you get the support that rape is only a punishment for evil? Tamar was not recorded as evil so how come she was raped?

Falls Allegation of incest and Abraham, is not the issue.

Did Sarah marry her half brother or not?

elated177:
What do you intend doing with knowledge?

Understand it.

sonmvayina:
These are belief systems.

This is not what you asked and that I wanted clarity from you.

So from the little you know, who or what is yaweh?

I am leaning towards 1, with a little mixture of 2...

That is my understanding of how people define the gods they believe in. If it is not what you think then define god yourself.

Yahweh is the Hebrew god.

sonmvayina:
Give two definitions...

That should be enough...and two examples each

Pantheism: The belief that the universe is equivalent to god, and that there is no division between a Creator and the substance of its creation. The Advaita Vedanta school of Hindu philosophy is an example of this; the philosophy of Baruch Spinoza has historically also been closely identified with this position, though there is some controversy over whether he is in fact better described as a panentheist.

Panentheism: Like Pantheism, the belief that the physical universe is joined to a god or gods. However, it also believes that the divine pervades and interpenetrates every part of the universe and also extends beyond time and space. Examples include most forms of Vaishnavism and the philosophies of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel and Alfred North Whitehead.

MaxInDHouse:
My God said a time will come when people will start killing one another yet claiming they're worshipers of the same God! Revelations 6:3-4

But His own worshipers will separately remain peaceful citizens anywhere they are simply because they've agreed on standard for right and wrong. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This people will serve as His WITNESSES (evidence of His existence) Isaiah 43:10-12
The Israelites failed to follow God's program so God abandoned them and chose a better nation which happens to be followers of Christ! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

So Jesus promised his followers that they will serve as evidence of His father's promises which has been made firm in their hearts! Act 2:8


Today Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere on this planet, while people from all the earth are finding it difficult to embrace PEACE, Jehovah's Witnesses have gathered millions throughout the earth (living in all the regions where intolerant people are found) and they have successfully achieved peace among themselves.

That's the undeniable evidence of my own God!

Ok.