Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Believers So Scared Of Any Historical Information Outside The Bible? by LordReed(m): 4:16pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Believers So Scared Of Any Historical Information Outside The Bible? by LordReed(m): 4:00pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Believers So Scared Of Any Historical Information Outside The Bible? by LordReed(m): 2:31pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Truth, is even greater than documentary evidence and Truth has a way of showing up to scatter all Lies!
We did not even need the documentary evidence to show that those evil bastards did invade and occupy Nigeria, there are too much tell tale evidence eg Victoria Island in Lagos, instead of one Yoruba or Nigerian sounding name. Creek Town in Calabar, instead of one Bassey or Anniefok name etc. Exactly just as we can say that the Exodus or Israelite enslavement in Egypt never happened. Nor were the walls of Jericho knocked down. Truth indeed dispells fairy tales. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Believers So Scared Of Any Historical Information Outside The Bible? by LordReed(m): 2:27pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: Now we are in the super free information age, but so many believers are too scared to look up any historical information with documentary evidence that proves some of the beliefs they have been taught wrong.I was in this situation for decades as all my parents taught me was Jesus 2nd coming but since I watched a video on youtube with documentary evidence of Roman occupation of Israel during the time of the made up character of Jesus, since then I have been set free from believing in this FAKE 2nd cumming that has already come and gone in 70 CE.
Believers time to start using the brain GOD has given you and not the one Satan has manipulated. Because it is bound to introduce conflict and dissonance to their beliefs. Imagine saying the Russia Ukraine war is sign of the end time while completely ignoring the hundreds of wars that have occurred since 1 AD till now. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by LordReed(m): 2:18pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
Competence5050: What NATO under Obama and Biden does is sleep, drink and eat, they contribute little or nothing, but Trump made it equal contribution. They expect America to do all the work and send it to every NATO member... You don't understand how NATO is funded. Contributions are not shared, they are used to purchase arms and to perform other administrative tasks. The NATO command structure is virtually a different standing army that needs its own equipment and funding. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 1:04pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: Do you think it is smarter to say all past written books are invalid then? LoLz. Can you tell me why you don't accept BoE as canon? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 12:27pm On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: Do you think it is smarter to say all past written books are valid? No, but your reasoning cannot be arbitrary. Jude quotes from from BoE you don't accept BoE as canon but you accept Jude as canon, based on nothing but you don't like BoE. NNTR said BoE was false teaching yet the passage quoted directly from BoE is in consistent with your beliefs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 11:05am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: As usual, you get it twisted. i showed you that information about the past was accessible and not hidden. i even used a wicked king and scribes as example. In the same vein, the fact that something is written early doesn't necessarily mean it is valid. i guess you can only think in units.
i answered you immediately already. i said information about the patriarchs was accessible knowledge and that God could have told him. Two clearly given possibilities. You showed what was accessible by way of written information. You are the one getting it twisted, you can't simultaneously claim that past written books about your religion are both valid and invalid. That is an absurd stance. If Jude didn't get his reference from the BoE then where did he get it from? You are unable to provide a straightforward answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 10:45am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: Mat 2:4 KJV And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
Mat 2:5 KJV And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
As you can see, the knowledgeable could access previous information including wicked Herod if he so much wanted. It was not hidden for someone not to get it. That something is done or written before Jesus was born or while Jesus was being born doesn't make it valid or the source. LoLZ. You are literally quoting a place where what was written in a book was used as evidence of Jesus' foretold birth while simultaneously claiming that what is written in the past is not reliable. SMH. Bwahahahahaha! Meanwhile you are yet to answer me as to where Jude got the quote if it was not from BoE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Spot Some Boys With A Beautiful Owl Bird On My Way To Work Today by LordReed(m): 9:12am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Orkpekyandega: On my way to my place of work, I met some boys in the neighborhood carrying a beautiful live owl bird.
I asked what they wanted to go do with the live owl bird.
Answer: kill for meat.
The beautiful creature really looked very attractive. I don't mind owning one as a pet though. Might be expensive to keep as they eat mice and other small rodents. You'll either have to buy them or breed the mice. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 9:02am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: i said it wasn't from the BoE, i did not say it was not from a book. It could also be from God, how about that? The words of the patriachs was accessible to those who cared. LoLz! Accessible how? Read my response again the quote was taken directly from Book of Enoch. The book of Enoch was around before Jesus was born. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 8:29am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: There are scholarly and divine agreements as to the books you just mentioned, just like any scholarly agreement on other old works. BTW, if you read me carefully, i did not say that there was no book. Then what was the source of Jude's statement if it wasn't from a book? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 7:29am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: Okay, enjoy your delusion. That Enoch said something does not mean that he wrote a book. That the book says what Enoch truly said does not mean that he wrote the book. i can write a book quoting you, doesn't mean i am you or that everything else i write is true or you. There are monikers of people on social media, both dead and alive, that say or try to say what the people say/said. It's not a new thing and it doesn't necessarily verify/validate them. But again, enjoy your delusion. LoLz. How do you know what Jude purportedly said if there wasn't a book? The delusional one here is you. By your senseless argument we should discount all the words of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and John since no one knows who actually wrote them. Bwahahahahaha! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 5:51am On Mar 21, 2022 |
Image123: Jude wasn't quoting any BoE duh. Jude was quoting prophet Enoch. All sorts of sorry books came out around that time as it was popular to get books and epistles from Apostles telling people God's message. Like there's always fake and copy versions of authentic things. Book of Moses, Elijah, Mary Magdalene, Demas, Judas, Thomas etc. were flying around to deceive people like you. That quote in Jude was taken directly from the Book of Enoch. |
Christianity Etc › Re: SERIOUS ALERTS: Imminent Rapture Visions And Messages ( JANUARY 2015 Till Date) by LordReed(m): 1:57am On Mar 21, 2022*. Modified: 7:33am On Mar 21, 2022 |
annyplenty: It does not change the fact that HE is coming. All the prophecies and signs are aligning. The prophecies are aligning for the past 6 years at least, 7 if you count from the beginning of 2015. |
Christianity Etc › Re: SERIOUS ALERTS: Imminent Rapture Visions And Messages ( JANUARY 2015 Till Date) by LordReed(m): 7:55pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
annyplenty: He is coming any moment, I still repeat and maintain. I said I will remind you in 3 years, here we are 3 years 4 months later still waiting for your so called "in a moment". LoLz. |
Christianity Etc › Re: To All Theists, Present Your BEST Evidence For The God You Believe In by LordReed(op): 6:14pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
ayoncox: May be my first interpretation was wrong, premise of first judgement is the availability of scientific facts which most non-believers in God look for so my statement All I want is your best evidence, that is all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: To All Theists, Present Your BEST Evidence For The God You Believe In by LordReed(op): 2:24pm On Mar 20, 2022 |
ayoncox: In the context of science what are evidences? I didn't ask about the context of science. I said state your best evidence, you said you had none to present but now you are presenting something as evidence. So again do you have evidence or do you not have evidence? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Love And A Consuming Fire; Beware! by LordReed(m): 10:10am On Mar 20, 2022 |
Omooba77: May God forgive you... I already forgave myself. LoLz. |
Romance › Re: My Mom Just Ruined My Relationship by LordReed(m): 9:41am On Mar 20, 2022 |
daifeanyi68844: I'm an only son and in relationship with a lady I love so much.
We started dating while we were students. Our relationship is 4 years and 8 months. Everything was going fine until she moved into Lagos and I introduced her to my mom.
Now, any issue I have with my mom, she calls the innocent girl and says it's because of her this thing happened.
My mom and I live in a three bedroom apartment. She and my father are separated.
One minute she's nice to the girl, the next she isn't. We broke up today because of this. I'm really hurt. This girl loves me unconditionally, she supports me, treats me so well. When I started my business she gave me her 200k savings to invest in it. I can't even believe my mom is doing all this. I don't know what to do. I'm really hurt. We planned on getting married this year. I don't know if I would ever find a good person like her.
On the other hand, my mom doesn't even care. I want to cut every ties I have with her. According to Judge Judy your mom is a pot stirrer, she is stirring up trouble where there shouldn't be. The solution is not to cut all ties with her but to gave her and yourself space, she too all up in your business. Either you move out of that house or find her somewhere else to live. I think you should make up with your girl and then tell her how you plan to create that distance with your mom. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 9:20am On Mar 20, 2022 |
NNTR:
I am sure I did answer the question and did so with a succint reply
Anyways you can feed off the yellow highlight up there for insights.
Or you want me to clear you with evidence that the Book of Enoch and other variants of it, are best flushed down the toilet, where they belong, as the offer to clear you, still holds
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. So when Jude said: 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. He was saying that the book of Enoch was a false teaching? So in other words Jesus is not coming with 10k saints to execute judgement? Or Jesus coming back is a false teaching? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 8:56am On Mar 20, 2022 |
NNTR: Yes, it is a castigation of the book of Enoch.
Or you want me to clear you with evidence that the Book of Enoch and other variants of it, are best flushed down the toilet, where they belong. If you start, you won't last five minutes into reading the book, before you'll shove it away, from finding the content, being ludicrous and a waste of even idle time.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. You didn't answer the question. Point out how it is a castigation of the book of Enoch. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 8:06am On Mar 20, 2022 |
NNTR:
You often like as seen above see me make a point by referencing the Quran, another book when it stands to reason that I consider the Quran valid.
When I quote and reference Quran verses to my dear beloved Muslim brethren and sisters e.g. AntiChristian, it doesnt imply its valid or holds water, but essentially what I am doing with it, is using a nail to drive out a nail.
Apostle Jude and Apostle Peter before him, where not endorsing the BoE, but actually were castigating others reading and believing it
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. Point out how this: 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. Is a castigation of the book of Enoch and those reading it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Love And A Consuming Fire; Beware! by LordReed(m): 5:40am On Mar 20, 2022 |
helinues: Man, woman or manwoman, Ukrainians need his help urgently.
Na just a slap on Putin and every suffering go end. Abi o! Jesusjnr2020 told us the god gave someone a knock to prevent the person from joining yahoo yahoo, the god should be able to slap Putin and stop the war. LoLz! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 5:54pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
NNTR: Whats the point you think you are making, with saying, 'yet Jude is canon, funny'.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. If Jude is trying to make a point by referencing another book then it stands to reason that if you consider Jude valid then the book it is referncing is also valid. If Jude is canon then Enoch should be canon but what do I know, fantasy makers gonna make fantasy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 3:51pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
Image123: The reality speaks. It sure does. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 1:48pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
Image123: Opinions are cheap and free, reality stares you till eternity. Of course, just as it is your opinion that it is not a fantasy. LoLz. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 12:39pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
Image123: Because the prevalent BoE is a fantasy maker of course. The reality and truth stands. So one fantasy maker quotes another fantasy maker, great. LoLz. |
Christianity Etc › Re: To All Theists, Present Your BEST Evidence For The God You Believe In by LordReed(op): 11:44am On Mar 19, 2022 |
elated177: Why did you open the thread? I want to have a conversation with you. elated177: What do you intend doing with knowledge? LordReed: Understand it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15 by LordReed(m): 10:17am On Mar 19, 2022 |
Image123: It's commonsense. If nollywood produces a film based on the ongoing anything, it doesn't guarantee that it will be the exact truth of the ongoing anything. It also doesn't negate or remove the validity of the anything. Ah, notice that you used a fantasy maker as an analogy, makes me wanna laugh at how apt that is. |
Christianity Etc › Re: To All Theists, Present Your BEST Evidence For The God You Believe In by LordReed(op): 10:15am On Mar 19, 2022 |
elated177: Reed, it was just a simple that did call for the shenanigans. Now, answer, what have you understood so far? LordReed: Why are you asking me? |
Christianity Etc › Re: To All Theists, Present Your BEST Evidence For The God You Believe In by LordReed(op): 1:22am On Mar 19, 2022 |
elated177: How is it not any of my business? That's left for you to answer. |