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Kobojunkie:
I don't need to as what I stated is as stated in scripture.

That was written by men that made obvious mistakes and out right fabrications, the bible isn't error free so your assertion holds no water.

Sarcastic101:
when I say supernatural I mean unnatural things, when an unnatural thing happens it's said to be supernatural, example of this is when matter came out of nothing in the beginning, what scientists refer to as the big bang, nothing was before the big bang it has no natural explanation,
So the supernatural explains the first cause,the start of all natural things, however things like consciousness, emotions and existence of a mind and intelligence can't be explained naturally

Incorrect. Scientists don't say there was nothing before the big bang, scientists don't know what was before the big bang since our current knowledge of physics can't describe it. So my question persists, is it your conclusion that until we find a natural explanation for a phenomenon we should consider it supernatural but when we find a natural explanation it is no longer supernatural? Do you think disease is supernatural?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you an atheist? I see you as the devil's advocate.

Yes I am. Do you mean figuratively since I don't believe in a devil either.

Zonefree:
Person get mind divorce Putin daughter... There are levels to these things

To even marry am first you have to have balls of steel. LoLz.

petra1:
The power of God is as of old. The Bible even let's us know that we are in the days of higher manifestations.
Those who seek God in truth will keep seeing his power And glory . Until the Rapture. It's only after the Rapture that the power of the Holy Spirit will be withdrawn from the earth. So for now . Individuals determine the extent. Of the power of God in their lives and ministrry.

Still waiting for the day one of you will multiply 1 bag of rice into 5000 bags as a sign of this higher manifestation.

HigherEd:
4) Ban Russia from swift. (Put a damage on their intl banking system).

Like someone pointed out Europe relies on Russia oil and shutting them out of international banking might be bad for Europe as well.

tefishy:
."THEY GOT MONEY FOR WARS BUT CANT FEED THE POOR" - TUPAC SHAKUR 1993

The tragedy of human indifference.

PastorMIsBack:
This was posted a month ago. Someone bumped it

Ah OK.

OLAADEGBU:
I'm sure these answers scares the hell out of you atheists.

No it doesn't scare me, why do you think it would?

GoDaddy:
Russian invasion We’ll command war in Ukraine to cease, says Apostle Suleman
Apostle Suleman

The General Overseer of the Omega Fire Ministries International, Apostle Johnson Suleman, has called for prayers for Ukraine which has been invaded by Russian forces.
Apostle Suleman stated that, Holy Bible.....
https://naijareporters.com/2022/02/25/we-could-command-the-war-in-ukraine-to-cease-apostle-suleman/

If only it were that simple, many problems would have ceased.

Sarcastic101:
didn't I tell you that supernatural things are things with no natural explanation,or
Let me say things that can't be done by natural means,you can use a dictionary,
Is the word supernatural hard for you to understand?

It isn't hard to understand but if I use a dictionary meaning you might take issue with because that has been my experience, when I use an available definition believers quarrel about it so best I get the definition you are using. If supernatural just means things without natural explanation that means when something later gets a natural explanation it means it is no longer supernatural for example was lightning supernatural when it had no natural explanation or if we we discover a natural explanation for how life began it will no longer be supernatural? Clarify if you will.

PastorMIsBack:
Lol I wonder what the agenda is. People on Twitter are just mocking.

Which one is agenda again? They are easing restrictions all over the world so what agenda?

mhmsadyq:
In a public space everybody musn't agree with you, but there are always a better way to go about it. Especially, when it concerns what we revered as Mislims.

May be Seun understands that.

I agree there is a better way to discuss in public without acrimony however we are human beings and our emotions or ignorance can get in the way of things, that is what you have to be ready for.

Sarcastic101:
God didn't claim to be the God of thunder or lightening but the creator of the universe and life, which is presently unexplainable as an explanation would require us to either perform such act ourselves or show it happening without God,if life arose unguided and by chance without the need for God why don't we see new life arising?

I asked you for what supernatural means, you haven't explained what it is. I asked you to clarify can you do that first before we discuss any other thing?

Sarcastic101:
Notice I said natural explanation,
If we can't give a natural explanation for an occurrence then it's supernatural,
Everything thing that makes up life is based on things that can't be explained naturally, from the rise of life from non living matter,to the materialise g of matter from nothing,to the complex design of the universe,it's willful ignorance to say that a supernatural intelligence isn't behind your reality

So when we couldn't get a natural explanation for thunder and lightning it was supernatural but we could explain it naturally it was no longer supernatural?

Sarcastic101:
Supernatural things aren't things that have no natural explanation

So anything that has no explanation is supernatural?

PastorMIsBack:
(Where’s the fun in that?)

Duration: 1 minute


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVlDo5SN59U

PastorMIsBack and her infectious laugh, LoLz.

Sarcastic101:
Dumb athiest,
What would you take as an evidence,?
If you answer this question,I'd give you evidence,
Just tell me what you'd take as evidence that my God (a supernatural being) exists

I'd like some evidence for your god but I need you to define supernatural then I can tell you what kind of evidence I would take.

DissTroy:
Accûrsed newt! Boko Haram was a radical group from the 90's, but it wasn't a terror group. When it got sophisticated arms and weapons which Obama unwittingly gifted it indirectly via arming militants during the Arab Spring (from 2010), it became a terror group.

Here's Reuters reporting in 2012 how militant groups in West Africa were having access to Libyan weapons (including the ones Obama was gifting to rebels) for regime change.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-un-arms-idUSTRE80P1QS20120126

You sure do have a shunted brain.

Nah your brain is the stunted shit stick since you can't separate the group getting access to weapons from the group and its idealogy. Boko Haram ideology didn't shift because they got access to weapons, they sought weapons after their ideology shifted you bumbling fucktàrd.

After its founding in 2002, Boko Haram's increasing radicalisation led to the suppression operation by the Nigerian military and the killing of its leader Mohammed Yusuf in July 2009

benalvino3:
By now you should know the UN is useless

In this context it sure is especially as Russia is the head of the Security Council. All the UN is doing right now is help with the humanitarian crises the war will generate.

DissTroy:
You are extremely stûpid! Boko Haram as a name literally means "No to western culture", which makes it literally a radical group.

IPOB is a radical group. Odua People's Republic is a radical group. Feminist Coalition is a radical group.

Boko Haram became a top terror group after weapons from Benghazi and which Obama gifted Libya rebels trickled down south. These things are in the public sphere.

I pointedly mentioned terror group but you twisted it to radical group because you are devious.

Boko Haram would never have become this deadly without the weapons Obama gifted Libyan rebels and him destroying Libya (including Benghazi).


'Lord', read! Read!

And for for all the many words you type you are pretty dumb. Boko Haram became a terror group after radicalisation. And it was not the availability of weapons that radicalised them but a dundee united like you will link 2 unlinked events like the bumbling idiot you turn out to be.

feedthenation:

---Putin just wants to invade Ukraine for his own political ideology---nothing to do with NATO---

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-ukraine-invasion-rationale-july-2021

My sentiments as well. Discussions were underway at the UN Security Council where Russia is the current head so why the haste to launch a military incursion? It doesn't make any sense apart from it being the ploy of a power drunk individual.

DissTroy:
You are a child if you don't see the correlation between Obama and Boko Haram.

When Yusuf was killed in 2009, Boko Haram wasn't a terror group.

During the Arab Spring, when Obama invaded and destroyed Libya, and armed militant groups to cause mayhem, stockpiled arms from Benghazi and US arms moved down south into Northern Nigeria.

This was late 2010 to 2011. That was when Boko Haram became a notable terror group.

There are thousands of articles and thinkpieces detailing how that action of Obama militarized West Africa, and gave rise to ISWAP (and armed Boko Haram). I have posted some over the months and a few today here, but LordReed from Nairaland is hell-bent of rewriting history to suit his skewed narrative.

So bad, even Nobel regretted awarding Obama the Peace Prize.

Your logic is just as faulty as those who blamed Trump for corona virus so no buddy the infant here is you. Boko Haram's radicalisation was not because of Obama, just as corona virus spreading had nothing to do with Trump. Only kindergarten level thinkers would link such events to who is president in the US which it seems you are one.

mhmsadyq:
I don't think it's about the debate. I can choose to engage you or not to a debate.

I think it's the aspersions that follow every debate that is the problem.
I don't think anybody would accepts name calling of what he or she holds dear wether rightly or wrongly.
Anyways, the oath hasn't done much we still Christians go into the space to do their thing.

It's part of what to expect in a public forum. If you want to participate in a pubic forum you should be ready for those who do not hold those things you value as sacred. That is why you create space away from the public for your sacred spaces. Trying to force the public to acknowledge your sacred things in the space for the public is counterproductive. Keep your sacred things in your sacred spaces.

helinues:
Why do i have to sign an oath on something i did not believe in? Why should the Muslims be able to comment on Christian topics without signing an oath

Are Muslims so intolerant that we need to sign a oath before we make comments about their faith?

Seun this is nonsensical

Yes they are that intolerant. They could no longer stand the debates that accrue on a public platform so they wanted their own walled off space. While I understand why Seun gave in, I think he should have made it reciprocal for all religions to make it fair.

benalvino3:
Are you going to deny reality? This conflict started 2014 what dont you understand? That was as a result of Obama and his admin meddling in the country neighboring russia.

Its not what they said, its what they did.

The whole mess is there for you to see. They can play with other nations as they like but russia will not allow them play at their backyard

This conflict didn't start in 2014. NATO has been making overtures to Ukraine since they broke away from the USSR. The question is why is Putin making a military move in 2022, you pointing me to events in 2014. What military move was made in 2014? You claim Obama meddled in Ukraine, was this meddling a military incursion?

benalvino3:
2014, the US arranged a coup that made the pro Russia president of Ukraine resigned and install their puppet which destabilize the country as pro Russian citizens starts to clash with Ukraine. Obama and minions did that promising Ukraine a path to become a NATO member.

Putin does not want Nato around his border... The same thing happened in Georgia in 2008 which forced Russia to invade the country. This is no different from what happened. Putin was forced to do this because it has happened before.

US destabilize the region by meddling in the country in 2014.

You dont really understand what's going on. Look into the crisis In 2014 to understand what Obama and Hillary did to send Ukraine into this path.

So what happened in 2014 is what forced Putin to invade Ukraine in 2022?

benalvino3:
Also,look at obama admin discussing who to install and who not to install before the sitting president fall as per the result of the coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8

LoL! Obama admin? Is Obama the president? How does what an "Obama admin" said force Putin to embark on a military adventure in another sovereign state?

DissTroy:
Selective amnesia?

Boko Haram was never a terror group until 2010 after Yusuf was killed. It existed for years for then but wasn't a terror group. extremists? Yes.

The indirect actions of Obama bolstered it with the Libyan arms which trickled down south.

Interestingly, you avoided all evidence which nailed your Lord Obama to pick at straws? See how predictable you lots are?

You even avoided evidence of Obama admitting Libya was a mistake or the Nobel Secretary regretting awarding Obama the Peace Prize.

I addressed the ISIS component of your statement. Also what did Boko Haram becoming a terror group after Yusuf's death got to do with Obama? Was it Obama that ordered the killing of Yusuf?

DissTroy:
There were no such terror groups as ISIS and ISWAP before Obama became POTUS in 2008. Yet he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

You sure about that?

ISIL originated in 1999, pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda, and participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by a multi-national coalition led by the United States.

benalvino3:
First of all, Trump would have been called a racist by you and your types if he mentioned the word china.

second, Hong kong has always been china. it's one country with two systems, it is not the same as what is going on in Ukraine.

but it will not end with Ukraine. This whole thing started with the Obama admin in 2014 coup, it has happened in 2008 as well. At the end of the day, the west forced russia to do this but it will not go un-noticed he is bold because of the animal in the white house.

with ISIS and separatist in the middle east, they don't need to fight their enemies directly, why didnt they bless Ukraine with lethal weapons to fight back?

Taiwan does not belong to china, only Taiwan can decide if they want to be part of china.as it stands, they don't want and its not because europe is not allowing them to discuss.

europeans are spineless idiots taking advantage of the united states. especially germany, the richest european country

Forced Russia? You are kidding right? What military moves did the West make in Ukraine that required a military response from Russia? Putin's stated goal of demilitarising Ukraine was brought about by which of the West's actions?

This should have been the option since. I fear this is coming too late.