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Corea4king:
LordReed

Show me where science says humans will transform into another species.

Just read theory of evolution,how human beings came into existence and the transformation they undergoes like homo erectus, homo sapiens and what awaits them in the future.

Image123:
This is exactly besides the point like i already stated tongue in cheek. A doctor's right or wrong diagnosis is not what determines sickle cell or failed eyesight or shorter leg or fibroid, or dead newborn or measles or stroke. You don't need a doctor to see or experience or suffer these things. So whether they are right or wrong or omnipotent is not the point. The point is these things happened to or around me and were not things that just left from time to time by chance. They left by prayer.
You were the one who felt that God isn't real because not every prayer or petition is granted. i used your criteria on what you trust the most and it fails miserably. Not everyone is changed by education or hospitals. This doesn't make them less valuable or valid, neither does it make those who were changed to be questionable. These are the criteria you apply to what you trust and believe most. Those are your highest gauge and standard. They are what you usually want miracles and the supernatural to be tested by. The Omnipotent didn't promise you to heal all your sickness, did He?

Boomboost:
It's the programming.

Some have been programmed from childhood, some from movies, some by societal factors but they know in their hearts that they are mimicking heterosexual relationships.

Yes I agree, some want to be profane and devil-appealing.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why do lesbians require a penis-object for sex?

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why is it that between two males in a same-sex relationship, one must behave like a female?

If homosexuality is normal or natural, why do homosexuals have to invade their anuses? Why can't they insert one penis into another?

If nature actually ordained homosexuality, like some people claim, why all the manipulations?

Can the "homosexuality is normal" crew answer those questions for us?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Tetehjewels:
FYI bred in the bone is short for the saying "what is bred in the bone will come out in the flesh"

It simply means it is hereditary or in other words one is born that way.

Ignore the word BRED there because it would confuse you into thinking it means TAUGHT.

Bred in the bone simply means DEEPLY ROOTED just like being hereditary or in your DNA

Corea4king:
Please,when will human beings transform to another species, according to science?

jimmynauty:
True question athiest will Dodge and claim it's evolutionist that propose

jesusjnr2020:
Go to the following thread and see everyone there including Lordreed call him a scammer and blackmailer:

https://www.nairaland.com/post/105954828

It was that glaring. He owns the @privettoall moniker there.

So he's the one trying to scam, blackmail and threatening people's lives up and down. He started that of Mobilia/Eviana because she refused to give him her financial info. He's started mine here by attacking me and eventually threatening my life.

He'd soon start to reap the harvest of all the evil seeds he's being sowing here.

Image123:
Lol, now you are absolving our doctors. Maybe they were wrong right? Maybe there was no sickle cell all along, or maybe the eyes were perfectly fine, or just maybe we were all daydreaming about the shorter leg and the fibroid, or maybe the newborn baby was just joking or testing us by playing dead. Like you've opined, maybe measles just resolves in hours from time to time, stroke just decides to completely leave from time to time. Are you aware at all that many people have gone to school and to hospitals yet their condition persists?

TenQ:
Actually, the four positions are not blank.

Only a baby could be truely called pure agnostic. Reason being that he has probably no knowledge to even take a position.

Theists are biased and much as Atheists (extreme end of the two spectrums)

Agnostic-theists and Agnostic-theists are biased either above or below the neutral line.

I guess you get my point.

hupernikao:
Well, it was drawn from your earlier submission. You inferred below.



How does this comes in?

A belief system or unbelief (which is what is being discoursed) is never same as religion.

A belief can give rise to a religion but it's never the same.

A belief is rooted in conviction, a religion offers a mode to serve and worship what you believe in.
One can believe and not worship same.

So, the focus here is what man believes or not believe, not what he worships.

TenQ:
A blank state strictly means UNCOMMITTED to any position but asking Questions enough to have the blank slate filled with a position.

I think your case is more like: You have already known enough or you require an answer to conform to your thinking such that any other thing will not suffice.

Let me give you an analogy:
Is there water trapped under Venus?
Blank Slate: I don't know but I'm willing to seek for evidence that will support or negate the presence of water (this is true agnostism)
Semi-Blank State: There is no water except I see a superior evidence (this is the position of ALL agnostics Ive met)

Now, to even make it clearer, I can ask you the question:
Which one of these is closest to your position about God?
i. Theist
ii. Atheist
iii. Agnostic-Atheist
iv. Agnostic-Theist

HellVictorinho3:
Hell yeah



I find no reason to believe...........

HellVictorinho3:
Blank of faith in God..... I think that's what LordReed says

TenQ:
It still simply mean that your so-called Blank slate is NOT blank!

TenQ:
I think you are professing a NEUTRALITY that is biased.

Why?
An agnostics is a person with a leaning towards atheism but only uncommitted to say as a FACT that God doesn't exist.
(sorry, its not a debate over the definition of atheism as a disbelief or not: it's my opinion)

You say:
"A lack of belief doesn't limit you from considering the god concept"
I don't believe in Santa Claus
I can't even believe in santa claus
BUT
I can read about Santa Claus
I can discuss Santa Claus with others

However, it is impossible for me to believe in Santa Claus because my BLANK SLATE (from the start) has excluded him from my life even if perchance he is found to be true.

How then is your blank slate different from mine?

hupernikao:
It's the systematic practice of religion corporately with an extension of informing your individual devotions. Nothing wrong with this but this isn't what is on the table now.

hupernikao:
Knowing God is not same as secular religion. You must always make this distinction. Religion can be the platform on which such conviction is spread. But knowing God isn't the same.

TenQ:
Is there a religion that doesn't have a God/god/karma as the center of it?
Is it possible to reject be "free of religiously encumbered thoughts" without also being free from the God/god/karma behind it?

Let me rephrase:
Yes, its true that: "The lack of belief is not really a quality by itself"
Its also not bad to: start on a clean slate, a tabula rasa from which one can now work things out
The contradiction occurs when on this clean state religious thoughts by default is REJECTED/DISBELIEVED!


How can it be a clean state when the only thing written on the blank slate is, be "free of religiously encumbered thoughts"?

Don't you think it means simply that any other thing except religiously encumbered thoughts are to be entertained in this new "blank slate"?

TenQ:
Deep thoughts you have there unfortunately also with a contradiction.

Yes, its true that: "The lack of belief is not really a quality by itself"
Its also not bad to: start on a clean slate, a tabula rasa from which one can now work things out
The contradiction occurs when on this clean state religious thoughts by default is REJECTED/DISBELIEVED!


How can it be a clean state when the only thing written on the blank slate is, "REJECT the thought of the Creator?"

hupernikao:
You wrote the below.

Hermes119:
alright let's do another assumption
Let's assume that before God ordered the genocide against the amelekites he gave you the privilege of selecting one of these options for him to execute
A) annihilate the amelekites
B) build a huge wall around them preventing any access with the Israelites
C) manually interfere with any attempt by the amelekites to kill an Israelite
D) make the Israelites invisible to any amelekite who proposes to harm him/her
E) change the minds of the amelekites so they stop harbouring evil against the Israelites

Which would u pick

Image123:
Add coincidence to it if it makes you sleep better. Just that it continues to happen ever so frequently. i've had personal case S where the doctors said nothing could be done and God showed up. Not to mention the not too personal. Maybe the doctors were not conjecturing or superstitious enough.

Steep:
you are contradicting yourself, for a man to take a decision he must belive and be fully convinced of his actions.
Going by your logic attacking bokoharam and Islam is mass murder.

HellVictorinho3:
You are one of the atheists I respect for trying as much as possible to be objective and correct in every case.




You deserve to be respected by every other atheist for also trying to be as sincere as possible towards the consideration of human rights as often as possible.

jimmynauty:
'Living god'

What do you mean by 'living' in the context you just posted.

HellVictorinho3:
What's the essence of atheism?


Martinez39s,1Sharon,CAPSLOCKED, LordReed,adoyi8,kingsmaz,johnnydon22,helineus,MJBolt and every other atheist on Earth.

NNTR:
Daniel 12:1-4
1“Now at that [end] time Michael, the great [angelic] prince who stands guard over the children of your people, will arise.
And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time;
but at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the Book [of Life], will be rescued.
2Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake (resurrect), these to everlasting life,
but some to disgrace and everlasting contempt (abhorrence).
3Those who are [spiritually] wise will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven,
and those who lead many to righteousness, [will shine] like the stars forever and ever.
4But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the scroll until the end of time.
Many will go back and forth and search anxiously
and knowledge will [greatly] increase.”

If some dead Jew coming from the sky is not your problem, then verse 2b soon will be

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

StJohnofChrist:
No matter what I bring to you, you'll end coming up with another explanation to
Aid your belief in unbelieve. Whatever that means.
Even if there were to be a giant finger writing in the sky "God exists". You'd come up with a scientific explanation to "help" your unbelief.

Your knowledge on what an hypothesis is and a theory is is not accurate.

StJohnofChrist:
The thing is, it's real, I mean the spiritual is real. The unseen realm. I mean it's very very real.

I mean, why do atheists think they have the capacity to judge the evidences one who claims there is God has, atheists believe they have the intelligence, neutrality and warts and all to assess the evidence deciding whether there is God or not.
It's just like when the Big bang investigation came up and it was proven that the world in fact had a beginning, it didn't sit well with some atheists as they placed their faith in the unproven multiverse theory, so I read, which in itself is not objective manifestation.
Confusion if you ask me.

I believe atheists are like blind people, it's like telling a blind man to behold the beauty of Mona Lisa and the fine art.

An atheist has the pre conceived mindset of "I don't believe in the existence of a God" because there can't be any evidence. So any attempt to prove otherwise is just a passing wind.

In this country Nigeria and beyond, most especially Nigeria where the supernatural influence is almost relied on. Some out of a pre conceived mindset choose to feign ignorance with the amount of info on the public domain.

I mean why don't you get out there and find the truth. Instead of asking, seeming humble yet full of pride questions like "Proove there is God" every time when you've already set your mind to never believe anything that comes as proof.

The only proof I can show you is the spiritual, and at that I will pray for you. Most encounters with God are not like a Road to Damascus encounter or a Slash of the ear encounter. It's an overtime build up of faith.

ifyken:
Sometime some questions and some post you suppose ignore. It is highly improbable that such an event will ever happen. In fact you are more likely to have a party with Kim Kardashian and Demi rose and also win 100 million dollars lottery in the same day than to have the power of all the world nuke in your hands.
He says that the person will have no morals because he doesn't believe in God but Hitler was a christain,all our politicians are either christain, Muslim or traditional worshippers but they are looking us dry. This implies that religion has little to no effect on the morality of an individual.
If even someone was smart, charming, cunning and ruthless to have the power to blow us to bits using the world's nukes, he or she or non binary will probably be self serving and wants to survive at any cost. If he/she/non binary was brilliant enough to build even one nuke unnoticed,he/she/non binary will know the consequences on detonating such a bomb and will probably not do it.
Even if he/she/non binary detonates it then we die which is not a big deal given that humans right now are very very insignificant compared to the vastness of the universe. Thank you.