₦airaland Forum

Pelecius:
Smiles. Seems you've got problems with the (in words of Dawkins) blind pitiless indifference of atheistic world.
Like I said, such act is permissible in such world but is wrong in God's sight.
So whether they donate to church or not does not make it right.

I have no problem with what Dawkins said. What I have a problem with is blaming "atheistic world" for what religious people are doing. Why don't you petition your god to remedy the situation since he doesn't like it, why point fingers at "atheistic world"? You claim your god is all powerful but you and him can't be bothered to do anything concrete about what he doesn’t like.

HardMirror:
that word "true" that is why i created the topic that christians hate each other. you guys pretend to be all good, but you actually are full of hate. what do you mean by true children of god enjoy a sweet life. you say this because you know there are christians living very miserable lives, but you would have to claim "true" christians are always enjoying so that you can cut those suffering off your religion.
these are the kinds of tactics you guys employ to keep people deceived that there is actually something in the religion people should find, and they are not happy because they have not found it.

Are you minding that one, someone that can twist the meaning of meaning till it loses meaning.

Dtruthspeaker:
No sir, all do not Cease! They simply move to the next stage of living depending on their results in this stage.

When you have proof of that come show me.

Pelecius:
and that economic freedom may arise from stealing, Ask Nigerian politicians, kidnapping and so on
Of course, this is allowed in an atheistic world in which the famous Dawkins said it's just "...blind pitiless difference". But it still requires DILIGENCE in getting the job done
This form is definitely not allowed in Christianity which preaches LOVE.

None of the politicians stealing is an atheist (openly anyway). Some of them even donate their loot to church so this your blaming of "atheistic world" is duplicitous.

BassReeves:
Please dont misconstrue judgment as killing

When the state executes a condemned person it is still considered killing, quite different from murder.

Dtruthspeaker:
I never ever forget that you are already marked for final destruction in the fire as you already know, so as a dead tree, there is no thing to harvest, save to put it in the fire!

Valar Morghulis.

budaatum:
I unfortunately have not read Hardmirror's road to his Damascus experience, my Lord. It probably explains his bitterness - the fact that he had so gullibly believed, it seems.

What's unfortunate is how he's now swung to the other extreme and does not realise that he still believes, which is why he's become my new candidate for mud and the Pool of Siloam.

Hopefully, he too would see tokes in his dream.

May we all receive the Jesus Tokes™.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is one of the products which comes out from going to "bad schools" churches and having evil teachers teaching you about He Who is Good.

Surely, you guys must be bad and evil products.

Unfortunately, you will still run into the waiting arms of another evil teacher, If God does not run an intervention.

Yeah keep your killer god not interested.

KnownUnknown:
Careful now, or else Allah might just chop your head off but AntiChristian will be the one holding the machete

LoL! If only wishes were a kobo a dozen.

AntiChristian:
Sooner than you think!

Oh really? I don't recall giving him an appointment.

AntiChristian:
Don't worry, hopefully when you meet Him you'll be able to say this.

When shall I be meeting your Allah?

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

The sad truth is that until you are on your own most parents will brook no opposition to their religious ideas. I would say wait until you move out before you brooch the subject.

HardMirror:
to everyone who used to be a believer and now skeptics, i celebrate you guys. people do not know the amount of courage and strength it takes to admit one is wrong, one has been deceived.
i sincerely celebrate you guys, seun, lordreed, Johnnydon, hopefullandlord, hahn and many others i cannot mention right now. you guys have been patient, resilient even in the face of senseless arguments, you keep trying to let people know they are being deceived. sometimes i have to employ very aggressive mean topics to catch the attention of readers, because they are not listening, they are not trying to learn. they are not thinking.
James Randi could have exploited people, he was telling them the truth, trying to set them free, but they instead turned him to their enemy. same thing happening here. we are seen as the enemy. we must keep trying our best to let people realize the supernatural has no sufficient proof. every claim of miracles has and can be explained, if only people would listen and not see it as an attack against their religion.

I also salute your courage, not many people can come out in the open to admit their errors and seek resolution. Also your story about your religious past was very enlightening, I am not sure I could bring myself to tell mine because I am still kicking myself for being so foolish for so long. While I don't particularly care if any of the religious people on NL change their minds I do care that they take time to scrutinize the information they care to share publicly, don't come on here and sprout nonsense and use your religious garb to dress it up.

Meanwhile, keep it up.

niggadee:
palliative caregiver frightening? after deceased been declared dead by the nurse on duty it’s my own responsibility to do deceased personal hygiene care before transport deceased to morgue

I said you are frightening yourself.

Monogamy:
Supernatural are forces beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature, which can't really be explained how they come about.

Dark energy is one of the supernatural things .. It is not even visible or be described how it looks like but it's damn real..

Dancing Aurora due to sun's particles interacting with earth gravitational field, that is visible. Dark energy is involved in that

Black hole, the spinning of a black hole could even be faster than the speed of light, place of no return

Btw, is the acclaimed religious people's God also comprehensible? What's the meaning of doing things in a mysterious way( unexplainable)

So if you know or explain how they come about they are no longer supernatural? Was thunder and lightning supernatural before we understood how they came about?

Valar Morgulis. Rest in peace.

Valar Morgulis. Rest in peace.

AntiChristian:
Allah created all things!

Stop dreaming. Your Allah is as active as a doornail.

AntiChristian:
Who created the temple in the first place?

Human beings.

AntiChristian:
Allah is able to do all things!

But some things are unbefitting for Him.

Like having son.

Becoming three persons in trinity.

Etc.

Yet your Allah cannot build a simple temple but had to convert the temple of other gods.

malvisguy212:
okay.......that what science thought you.

Taught not thought. Well has your god built a house or written a book? No so science has nothing to do with it.

niggadee:
I work in palliative care home I know what I’m talking about

You are only frightening yourself because you work with terminally ill people. We all have an aversion for death, there is nothing superstitious about that but don't let your aversion cause you to believe things that are not real.

Omooba77:
Does Anything Exist that God Can not Do?

Yes, plenty. For example your god cannot build a simple house or write a book or even just even speak audibly to people today. Nobody has filmed 1 single angel in all the years churches have been recording programs and services so your god cannot make 1 angel visible for all to see.

Ammishaddai:
You are wrong sir. For no one knows the hour or day. But we are given hints as to the time. And as it stands , those hints have already manifested themselves . In fact ,the stage is set for the arrival of our great God and Savior , Jesus Christ . So get ready

We are waiting for Jesus to come and change water to wine let's have a welcome back party.

niggadee:
guy if you jam poltergeis you will sh*t your self

I am guessing you didn't even watch the video. Stop frightening yourself with superstitious nonsense.

maureensylvia:
The prophesy came to pass

5 years is not near. Just checkout how many people have died between then and now.

Other.

Emusan:
Beautiful, so if Seun actually did that, will you consider him to be too WEAK for HIS OWN moderators to have power to ban him?

Like you consider it ridiculous for God to become a man and got killed by His own creation?

Depends on the reason. If he did it just so he could blame his moderators for a mess he could have fixed in the first place then I would consider him a pathetic malicious narcissist.

Yes a god who would instead of fixing problems decided to play roundabout games of blame and condemnation without fixing anything I would consider ridiculous.

You've said it ALL by saying "he CAN'T BE SUBJECTED"

Don't you think this is how Bible describes God too?

You misunderstood what I wrote. I wasn't saying he can't be subject I was saying it doesn't mean he can't be subject in other words he can be subjected to the same laws if he made the change, nothing stops him from doing that.

If "HE SELLS" that closed the case.

Indeed.

You still haven't proved how Seun has limitations AS THE OWNER OF NAIRALAND yet.

I didn't set out to prove that.

Dtruthspeaker:
Naaah! I like His Plan and what He is Cooking for you all!!

That is certainly hotter and "better" than what I can ever ask or think.

So, no, I can wait!

Once again you show us your true colours. Imagine someone gloating at the destruction he thinks will befall his fellow. Despicable.

If a god does exist that is interested in seeing that innocent do not suffer then this world would have been very different. In any case there is no God doing anything about injustice that we can observe.

While I can see what you are trying to say I have some objections.

Emusan:
That's why:
1. Seun can't ban himself either by any of his moderators or antibot

You don't know how the NL moderating structure is setup so you are in no position to say this. Also Seun can easily change it such that a moderator can ban him.

2. Seun can't restrict himself or take an oath in Islamic section before creating a thread/commenting even though he is an Atheist.

Seun not being subject to that rule doesn't mean he CAN'T be subject. Once again he can make that change for whatever reason he deems fit.

3. Seun can't deactivate his own account as anybody can do which means the day Seun deactivated his account is the day Nairaland ended.

Not necessarily true. If Seun sells Nairaland he will need to devolve himself of all privileges he used to enjoy and if under that circumstance he deactivates his account nothing happens to NL.

In short, the rules or laws of Nairaland can be bound on Seun.

Now put God in the position of Seun, does it make sense to you as an Atheist?

Like I said I see what you are saying and it only makes sense if your god has limitations.

KnownUnknown:
The Lord says I’m infinitely wise, so why would I make people and ignore diversity that will ensure fruitfulness and multiplicity. The heavens declare my wisdom and the vagaries of creation bear testimony of the divine intellect. Yea, Man is as varied as the heavens and such variety can not come from two.

The Lord says Man venerates the story of Adam for his own unscrupulous, often nefarious, purposes.

Interesting.