Cornpop: Look at this nigga making my point for me once again.
Notice the quote from his spin plus the bolded part.
It clearly says a crime can be committed to a fetus when it is killed. And in his post they call it fetus or unborn child.
Bro. Has a woman ever gave bet to a chicken? Do babies become old man? If your answer is yes then babies starts to grow when the sperm of a man fertilize the egg of a woman. A baby at that point starts to grow. A human starts to grow till he or she gets old and die. Life begins at that instance.
The section below is talking about fetuses having personhood. Which is why when you kill a pregnant woman you have killed two persons. The bill also say there is an exception which is bolded in the quote below. That exception says it is not murder if it is relating to abortion or permission from the pregnant woman backed by law.
So which is it bro?
Making what point for you? You came to condemn abortion with your reference to the double homicide case when the law specifically excludes abortion. Dude you have no point.
Cornpop: Another brainwashed simpleton with no effort to reason for himself.
So since when that killing a pregnant woman counts as double murder? I thought killing a cell or fetus is not killing a human or baby?
Unlike you dummy, I read beyond the headlines.
The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).
The law applies only to certain offenses over which the United States government has jurisdiction, including certain crimes committed on federal properties, against certain federal officials and employees, and by members of the military. In addition, it covers certain crimes that are defined by statute as federal offenses wherever they occur, no matter who commits them, such as certain crimes of terrorism.
Because of principles of federalism embodied in the United States Constitution, federal criminal law does not apply to crimes prosecuted by the individual states. However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.
The legislation was both hailed and vilified by various legal observers who interpreted the measure as a step toward granting legal personhood to human fetuses, even though the bill explicitly contained a provision excepting abortion, stating that the bill would not "be construed to permit the prosecution" "of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf", "of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child" or "of any woman with respect to her unborn child."
Myer: The analogy isn't faulty, your interpretation is faulty.
The point being Islam can be practised as a peaceful religion. Just as Christianity can be practised as a non-judgmental religion.
The Extremist Muslim is the one who becomes the terrorist turning Islam to a weapon of mass destruction.
Likewise the extremist Christian is the one who becomes the JW turning the Bible upside down, judging and sometimes condemning everyone who isn't part of their organisation.
So to you a judgemental person is equal to a terrorist?
DappaD: The OP should go and take the frustration out on Paul himself for penning 1Corinthians 3:19 & Colossians 2:8 that discourages higher education. Or the OP should go and tear out 1Corinthians 14:34 & 1Timothy 2:12 from his/her Bible which says women do not assume teaching roles in the congregation with a baptized and qualified male present. Compare 1Corinthians 11:5
Did you you even read theat paragraph? It was a female only congregation.
Martinez39s: I am convinced, though not certain, that Dtruthspeaker and truespeak are the same person. What a hopeless idiòt.
It certainly feels that way. It feels like when someone is trying to write in a different style but their true self keeps slipping in. I don't usually like to speculate about such things cos I really don't care, I just wanted you to know I suspect the same thing.
lucky999: God said He will cast devil in the pit of hell that's why devil is decieving many people so that many soul will follow him to hell..
2 things about this. First so ultimately the god still won't destroy the devil? The devil will still be a powerful being albeit in hell?
Second, what the heck does the devil want with souls in hell, is he going to eat them or what exactly? If he is being punished just like everyone else, how does he have time to do anything about the souls in hell?
aadoiza: You're wasting your time with those two whose sole existence hinges on winning on a faceless forum. I'm so waiting for that stupid MILF to mention me make I give her the hard phallic lashing she dey crave
budaatum, someone has developed a hard-on for you. Bwahahahahaha!
What a dummy. The guy was changed without his consent because of a failed circumcision! Yes Mr Hypocrite, your "Christian Values" was what lead to this particular tragedy.
My troll is better than your troll, my Lord, because my troll is self-sufficient and does not need encouraging so I need not feed my troll my time.
Mine is a very hungry troll. The past 2 weeks 80-90% of his posts are focused on insulting me. LMAO! Have you ever seen such trollishness. Bwahahahahaha!
HellVictorinho: I am not happy to speak to you like this. I am actually sad concerning what budaatum did to you. Budaatum should be condemned for this.
Image123: You are not getting me right. Basically, anything He does has to be examined in His standard and attributes of Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, being Eternal, being Creator, being Judge. Give me an example or two of God for proper comparison.
I think we are saying the same thing. He is omniscient therefore anything he does is right because he knows everything. So when he kills babies in a flood, he is right because he knows everything. How do we disagree?
HellVictorinho: How did budaatum capture your brain?? Someone just wakes up to accuse people anyhow and you swallow those accusations like you are under a spell!! You are worse than those that believe in God right now!!!!
Now you are doing the thing you are accusing budaatum and myself for no reason. You don't understand what I understand about my communications with budaatum, therefore it's not your place to make such statements. You should put a stop to it.
keppler: Let me point this out first, I have engaged your argument fairly by treating what you say, but you seem to be making a red herring fallacy as seen in most of your response here Show me where historians have acknowledged a supernatural creation apart from what the Bible said Now this is a red herring as it can easily distract one from the point I raised earlier. So, I'm not falling for it and won't address it
You said (emphasis mine): Rather, history itself, which is recorded in the Bible (which has shown itself to be true even by the person Jesus) is used as a tool to know that there was a supernatural creation.
So can you show me historical records that is not the Bible that show a supernatural creation?
Is how did the universe begin a philosophical question or a scientific one? This is part of group of philosophical questions that science can be used to attempt to answer. Anyway, science cannot also answer HOW the universe began because it is a one time event which cannot be repeated, hence cannot be observed and tested - not following the scientific method. This should not distract your fallacy of false analogy anyway
LoL! So you basically just said all cosmologists are not scientists. This is really hilarious. Cosmology is a branch of science that deals with the origins of the universe so yeah buddy the question is a scientific one. I dunno why you are butting heads against a simple analogy intended to show that we should use the right tools for the right jobs, square pegs in square holes.
Did I say consciousness does not follow physical laws? I don't understand your objection. You very well acknowledged emergent properties how then is consciousness different?
Again, I never said nor implied what you wrote here. I said "...atheists never provide the laws that the matter in the brain follows (OBEY) to[b] produce[/b] consciousness/reasoning"
A study that shows that consciousness is not an emergent physical property of the brain will disprove what I am saying won't it? Find such a study to show me that I am wrong. It has been proposed that emergent properties of neural cells produce consciousness, but there is no way to show that it is. In fact, it is a fallacy of affirming the consequent. Matter is known to have new properties when it combines in a way which is usually known by physical laws. I used the absorption and emission of photons of different wavelength earlier; it is repeatable and KNOWN. But here, we are being told that conglomeration of the different parts of the brain (magically) produce consciousness which is not even a property of matter in the first place
There is no magic involved. Our studies of what consciousness is are yet in their infancy however no study has shown consciousness to exist beyond the workings of the physical brain. Again you are pointing at a gap in our knowledge and trying to aver supernatural causation. Will you be able to provide proof of a supernatural causation instead?
Give example of an absolute truth. A rectangle has two lines of symmetry
Why can't a subjective mind know that such a thing is true?
Start here: https://www.britannica.com/science/abiogenesis After you've read it let's discuss it. I was disappointed when you showed a link that definitely explained what was not different from what I said earlier that abiogenesis talks about LIFE FROM NON LIFE and went on to accuse me of not knowing what it meant. This is just funny The first line which provided the definition according to your link reads "Abiogenesis, the idea that life arose from nonlife more than 3.5 billion years ago on Earth" [All emphasis are mine]. And despite the billions of dollars poured into such research to just help show that God is not needed for origin of life (consistent with an atheistic worldview), this is one of the conclusions made from your adored link (which is supposed to teach me what I do not know about abiogenesis): [center]There remain many unanswered questions concerning abiogenesis. Experiments have yet to demonstrate the complete transition of inorganic materials to structures like protobionts and protocells and, in the case of the proposed RNA world, have yet to reconcile important differences in mechanisms in the synthesis of purine and pyrimidine bases necessary to form complete RNA nucleotides[/center]
Did you miss this:
Although many equate abiogenesis with the archaic theory of spontaneous generation, the two ideas are quite different. According to the latter, complex life (e.g., a maggot or mouse) was thought to arise spontaneously and continually from nonliving matter. While the hypothetical process of spontaneous generation was disproved as early as the 17th century and decisively rejected in the 19th century, abiogenesis has been neither proved nor disproved.
Statement in bold was what you were doing that prompted me to point you to this resource. Spontaneous generation and abiogenesis are 2 different things so for you to conclude that abiogenesis has being disproved by Pasteur showed you were lacking in knowledge of what abiogenesis is. Secondly, this was also to show you that this a completely different field from evolution so stop asking for evolution to answer a question it cannot address.
10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’” 13 Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable?
While for some, it makes ask and seek and knock with all their souls and minds and beings in order to gain an understanding.
Perhaps consider what seems like the "mix of half truths, hyperbolic tales, allegories and truths" to you, as the cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life on the east side of the Garden of Eden so the underserving may not pick of its fruit and refuse to die.
LoL! The question was partly to draw your attention. Still hoping for guide from the holy spirit, so that the Cherubs and flaming sword can be dispelled.
DCatt: Your leaky ass is as trash grade as they come and you even showed the gutter where you hang out with your buddy, so what is there to insult about you? Iddiot my dates are loaded and that's why they are not meant for your zombie kind. Just pray to survive it, this shitt is just getting turned.
Bwahahaha! Welcome back trash dweller. We are waiting for the turn. LMFAO!