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Image123:
2000 snide remarks are fully rested on you.

Image123:
A human sacrifice is an exception.

Image123:
Evidently you don't, but God does. i should not be showing you from His Word the several instances He condemns human sacrifice, you know.

Image123:
i know you're lord snide.

Image123:
Now you're patronizing the whole forum and every sensible reader. The fellow you addressed made a reference to time implying that the future will reveal the truth about if he is right or you are(on God). And you replied him on 2000years. This is a reference to Jesus Christ, yes or yes. Either you don't understand what you're asking or you forget. 1000years is like 1day, add it to your reflections.

LordReed:
How many more in addition to 2000 years do you require?

Image123:
Lol, it has everything to do with contradictions because you use a double standard that way. You seem to find it hard to bring the full perspective even for yourself. i'm on the full perspective all the time.

Image123:
You were talking about human sacrifice, remember? All these are not human sacrifice are they?

Image123:
Obviously, you can't. If you can't then you won't.

Image123:
Lol, what concerns a human being with 2000years? You snidely referred to Jesus Christ's coming. Dance around as usual, the music is on.

Image123:
2000years, reed.

Image123:
Indeed. i suppose you don't see any contradictions in the Bible then or in the Old and New covenants, right? Not all reasons are equal, right?

So you do have enemies that you don't love, only that they did not surface. Good for you. You do not love your enemies but you want God to love His enemies. Can you really see the man in the mirror yet?

Image123:
Is the Person you snidely refer to a human being?

Image123:
It's the obvious exception. How do you refer to that as liking the smell of death?

Image123:
Lol, of course you can't answer. You'd probably be shooting your own foot if not head. You forgot that His attributes include being Eternal and that in His realm, people don't actually die in the sense that you depict but will either go to hell or heaven. You cut out that huge difference/part or you refuse to be aware?

Image123:
Given the option that 1000years is like 1 day?

Image123:
It is different from liking the smell of death as you assumed, especially as you know that God does not accept any human sacrifice.

Image123:
Again, you somehow missed out the answer to give me an example or two of God for proper comparison.
Nonetheless, anything God does has to be examined in His standard and attributes of Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, being Eternal, being Creator, being Judge. Not just omniscient but Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, being Eternal, being Creator, being Judge. He is not just Omniscient(a term you are likely struggling with the definition BTW), He is the Creator and Owner of everything with 100% rights. He is the Supreme Judge of everything. Factor these in. Half truth, half knowledge, or half education is not equal to the full picture.

hiddendude:
1. The universe couldn't have always existed as this is inconsistent to how we experience it. Cause and effect work with a forward computation of time from a possible point (a possible infinity).
There are two kinds of infinity (possible infinity and actual infinity). A possible infinity begins with a point in the past and continues infinitely into the future. An actual infinity exists infinitely in the past and continues infinitely into the future (e.g integers on a number line).

2. If the universe were an actual infinity, then the present epoch would be logically impossible. How? Like I posited in the first argument, cause and effect work with a forward computation of time from a possible point. We understand this because we get to present times by successive additions. To understand this, think of the number line. The number 0 stands for the present epoch/point in time, negative numbers represent past epochs and positive numbers represent future epochs. Think of a hypothetical situation in which you have to traverse the number line from negative numbers to 0 (you do this by making successive additions e.g -3, -2 (-3+1), -1(-2+1), 0 (-1+1)). Such an addition is only possible if you have a starting point from which such additions can be made. If you traverse infinitely into the negative part of the number line (i.e numbers before 0 on the number line), you'll never make successive additions because it would be impossible to pick a starting point, hence you'll never get to 0.

3. If the universe existed infinitely in the past, there can be no cause and effect because a forward computation of time would be impossible within the universe.

4. The universe must have a beginning for cause and effect to be possible.

5. If the universe had a beginning, then itself is an effect of a greater cause. Whatever caused the universe must itself not be caused as this would lead to an infinite regress which we must reject because we know it is possible to make forward computations of time which would not be possible with an infinite regress as demonstrated using the number line. This thus leads us to infer that this cause is itself actually infinite.

6. This actually infinite cause transcends the universe because it precedes it.

7. Thus God is the best possible explanation for this as the concept of God assumes actual infinity is a feature of God.

I'm open to counterarguments with logic.

MightySparrow:
Go and know about them

MightySparrow:
Chest is alive, Dajjal and Mahdi are not yet born. So?

MightySparrow:
e expect

A little more, you are expecting Imam Mahdi, Jesus, and Dajjal. Aren't you?

MightySparrow:
Time will tell

MightySparrow:
Ok pray your own, the fact remains, you are not a Bible scholar. You criticism can't change the mind of over 2 billion Christians.



Mohamme's plagiarized the Hebrew scriptures, and stories with embellishments. He himself doesn't understand Christianity let alone, you.

MightySparrow:
You don't get it. I pray as the need arises, for me and others. So, the requests changes daily. The ones I prayed today, still going to pray, I have not received answers yet. All the same he is faithful. For instance, if I pray for a family friend who is three months pregnant for safe delivery., I don't expect her to deliver the next minute. I pray, I wait. So my God is faithful.

Hashabiah:
Kinky read the statement you made earlier and reflect on this nonsense you are now saying

Hashabiah:
An unsubstantiated Being who you steal from but won't admit openly? Wow....nice way to plagiarize content and call it your own.

Hashabiah:
I do not understand. So you just used your own framework as a standard for human morals ? Wow...that is pretty shallow

Hashabiah:
The " objective framework" comes from where? What exact standard are you using to asses and measure?

Hashabiah:
Oga, kindly tell us why you think you can justify when something is good is bad. That is the question

MightySparrow:
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Not at all, my requests keep on changing everyday, thus far, anyways, He has been faithful.

Hashabiah:
I call them assumptions because they are not provable...or are they?