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budaatum:
And you married her knowing she believes in a God whom you claim did all these things?

Why?

Was she the only woman in your neighborhood and you could not find one who believes in a better God, or are you misrepresenting the God your wife believes in?

When I married her I believed the same things even though this perspective never occurred to me then. It is when I shed myself of belief that it became clear to me. In as much as she doesn't become a baby killing monster then I am pleased to remain her husband. The beliefs in her head do not bother me, her actions are my concern.

Also if you can't point out how I misrepresented the god then stop saying it.

budaatum:
This is a lie, my Lord, and a very annoying one at that!

Your wife does not believe in a "narcissistic god who does" or you would not have married her. So, it's either you misrepresent your wife's God or your wife's beliefs or yourself

Clarify please my Lord, because you do this too often for it to be ignored.

She believes in a god who flood the world killing all the babies and unborn fetuses. She believes in a god who killed David's child because he committed adultery. She believes in a god who killed all the first born of Egpyt. Do you need more examples or are you satisfied that there's no misrepresentation my dear buda?

TheSourcerer:
He walked on water. (Matthew 14 22-23 )
He flew to space (without a helment )(.(john 6 :32 ,and the whole of revelation really)

It's a dilemma especially for the god believers. If the god is a able to over the physical laws of nature then it's hard to defend what it wants from humans who are less capable. On the other hand if the god is unable to do so, then the prestige of the god is diminished. Either way presents a dilemma.

budaatum:
He has not qualified for the pool yet because he hasn't even qualified for the mud!

LMFAO!

budaatum:
The person who wrote what you are about to read below is a definitely going to heaven Christian. But do not take my word for it for by his fruits you can surely hell.

LMAO! That one may need 7 baths in the pool of Siloam.

Pelecius:
Thanks

First of all, making distinction between GOOD and BAD could be vague. One will have to ask, who defines what is GOOD or what is BAD? That is, what do we call GOOD?
Secondly, who decides that a certain BEHAVIOUR is GOOD or BAD?
Mind you, since you seem to be in the atheism camp, it'll be great if your answers are consistent with an atheistic WORLDVIEW

The answers for those above would determine if we can talk about HUMAN WELL BEING even in an atheistic worldview.

Thanks for being nice

I already answered this by saying:

LordReed:
The basis of my Morality is human wellbeing, I measure morality by the effect it has on human wellbeing.

Every conscious and intelligent being, at least at level of human consciousness, is the determinant of their morality. Communal morality is determined by consensus, directly or indirectly by all that are involved in that community.

I have already laid out succinctly how I arrive at my moral framework and it is consistent with my worldview which includes my lack of belief in a god or gods.

HellVictorinho:
Is there any reason why those processes resulted in the current structure of the universe

Like I said it is the result of natural processes, there is no reason other than that. Naturals processes as far as we know are not direcyed what they achieve, they simply occur according to the physical laws of nature.

HellVictorinho:
Is there a reason why humans appeared in the first place
Is there a reason why there is life on Earth

If you mean purpose then no there is no purpose for life or humans but if you mean the result of previous actions, then yeah we are here because of the natural processes that resulted in the current structure of the universe.

Dtruthspeaker:
Even your Paragraph Stands Against You and Betrays You saying you are not an atheist for see how quick and short your claim is, compared to your Lengthy and Very Emotional and Passionate allegation against A Person who you say does not exist.

It is not possible for anyone to hate what does not exist. HATRED ALWAYS COMES FROM DIRECT AND PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH A THING IN EXISTENCE eg hatred for Snakes, Buhari, height, darkness etc.


So your words Show and SAY YOU ARE A LIAR for you Already know personally that God Exists!

Further Your passion indicates very high and unreasonable levels of hatred for God and even after I have severally shown you the reasonableness of His Conduct and you could not offer any reasonable counter, you have still Refused to drop the False Accusations which is what ONLY a Satanist Does and Must Do.

So there you are, even your own words and passions call you A Liar!

So seeing all these past engagements that you can never be reasonable on the matters of God, you are an Unreasonable Unwavering Hater of God, As your Passions and Traditions Have Betrayed you!

Don't be a dummy this early morning. I'm speaking as if the god was real not as if I believe that to be true. If you want to continue being a dummy then kindly Bleep off, I will not entertain your stupidity this time around.

HellVictorinho:
The reasons die along with them when they die.

Or they passed along before they die.

budaatum:
Atheist Principles True or false?

Too many for it to be a simple true or false answer.

Dtruthspeaker:
First in saying "If your god exists" even after I have settled this with you previously

Secondly, in Falsely Accusing Him of immorality in saying "then he is the most immoral being in existence" when He has Never done one Wrong ever, which I have also settled and pointed out to you.

Thirdly you Falsely Accuse Him of being immoral and not Following His Laws in saying "he is the most immoral being because he doesn't even follow his own rules" where you could never Truly find any one time that He Did Something Not Consistent with His Reasonable Rights Exactly as you do.

I am an atheist so I don't know where or when we settled anything about a god's existence.

Your god according to your bible, lies or uses deception, he kills, he fornicated, he watches people having sex (porn), he doesn’t care about people starving or suffering even though he has the power to prevent or end it (not in the Bible per se, more of an inference from human experience), etc. These and more show that if your god exists, he is immoral or maybe amoral.

Dtruthspeaker:
Morality is that which is Good and Right including The Laws in Furtherance of Good and Right.

It is not a distinction or separation, it is A Clear Position or Stand or House or Ground of Right and Good.

The measurement of Morality is Seen when a Right and Good subject matter is applied to a person, whether in truth he shall embrace it like a Soft teddy bear or whether he shall flee from it in rejection as one which bringeth a red hot knife to the skin!

You should quote the person who asked the question not me.

Pelecius:
What is your definition of morality?
What is your standard for measuring it?

Your answers to these questions would set the tone for other discussion.

Morality is principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.

The basis of my Morality is human wellbeing, I measure morality by the effect it has on human wellbeing.

TheSourcerer:
missed you buddy stay safe man.

Back at you buddy.

HellVictorinho:
There's no reason why humans exist despite having conscious minds.

They make a reason in their minds and its sufficient especially if it turns out to be a good reason.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is there no end to your lies and Untrue Accusations?

Even if it was proclaimed by God that Scoffers and Liars would rise up in the last days of this world, must it be you?

Even after putting down all your lies and accusations until the point you had no further reasonable issue, you still go about laying again your former lies and Accusations?

How would it not be right to call you the son of Satan the Father of All Lars?

The you would cry now that I have insulted you meanwhile you have First Insulted Another, Who is Too Big as to stoop so low to defend Himself before His creation, just like you going to explain yourself to your phone or car, what madness that is!

If you guys do not want those who believe in God put a Clear Notification that this is A Party for the gathering of Haters of God, so that we can all stay away and only interested parties should be in attendance!

If you can't point out the lie or deception then kindly Bleep off. I have no time to devote to your inanities.

HellVictorinho:
Do you think the world exists for any reason?

Reason only exists in conscious minds. The world doesn't have a conscious mind therefore cannot have reason.

TheSourcerer:
LordReed ?.

Yeah?

budaatum:
You will find this difficult to believe, but the cure is actually in the book written by the healer called the Gospel According to Luke.

I plan to go over it again some day when I find two or three to gather with me, as it is a process that aids the evolution of the mind.

Do it on Zoom and I'll join.

budaatum:
It is recognition of your former programming that makes you my Lord. Many have not yet come to that realisation even despite claiming to being atheists. And to be honest, I think I underestimate how well a job the programmers did, because I am obviously finding it very difficult to convince people that they will not surely die on the day that they eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but their eyes will open and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. I mean, who wants to listen to the words of serpents even if what they say is the truth. And see me dragging you back into those depths so you might see. Lol.

You keep [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_Eightfold_Path_consists_of%2Cmeditative_absorption_or_union%27%29.?wprov=sfla1]reaching into those depths[/url] my Lord, and the Holiest of Spirits will guide you to understand how and why Jesus is indeed one of the Lords.

Amen my dear buda. I won't lie, it's a painful process unlearning all that used to define me but as you have said the Holiest of Spirits shall guide me.

budaatum:
If it were up to me My Lord, you'd have a month. Three tops!

No one has your potential here, but you must first stop hiding!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOXc7b2YJ4

I have a lot of deprogramming to do my dear buda. Hopefully it won't take 2 years but there are depth I am still plumbing to know how far reaching the former programming goes

edi287:
Ignore that son of bitch. Clowns like him just like destruction and always use Chicago which is a perfect example of what happens when you dump guns in the community to defend carrying uzis and shotgun around.
I've probably volunteered for more community work than his entire lineage has in my sophomore year but the clown I owe him anything...
Fool is not worth engaging...ignore him.

A real big red nose clown.

Kokobilo87:
He is doubling down on the stupid

And you are tripling up on the fucktardism.

aadoiza:
Top on our campaign promises: we shall stuff the pretentious, empty-headed, lexically-challenged REEDIOT's head with faecal sludge all fresh from a public pour-flush pit latrine in the Ajegunle area of Lagos as your degenerated mental wellbeing is our concern.
Oh my, oh my. You are one lucky dude dodo, REEDIOT.

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Kokobilo87:
basilico you see what I am saying the turd is arguing with himself. According to him because they can't have tanks and f-16 jets they should not have AR-15 or weapons. The only positive thing about this turds is that they can't go beyond the stupid of PrideofLincoln1

This is how we we know you are a simplistic dunderhead. We arrived at this point because we were talking about how small arms cannot withstand the firepower of an army like the US has but dumbo like you says it means we said we should take away small arms. You're an unmitigated dullard.

basilico:
Wot was we saying? I just explained why CIA armed insurgents .Cold war. Ive edited my initial post.
Learn from experts

And the US civilian population should be similarly armed to withstand the US Army?

Kokobilo87:
Lmao. When Turds make arguments

When fucktards get silenced.

basilico:
You are such a dumb ass. It was the cold war.Reagan won the cold war " Tear down that wall" he said to Mikhail Gorbachev.
Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979. They were propping up a Commie govt. The Talibans fought back.
At the same time Russia commies controlled Eastern Europe and was actively seeking to overun Western Europe to impose your commie loving socialist ideals world wide.
Reagan authorized stinger missiles to the taliban then sending many russians home in body bags.
At the same time Reagan ratcheted up the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) space war outspending the Russians which caused Gorbachev to declare Glasnost and eventually allowed breakaway of Russia vassal states.
Yes Russians are brutal Reagan had CIA supply Taliban with anti aircraft stinger missiles.
An enemy of my enemy is my friend. The CIA supplied the Taliban with killer anti aircraft missiles.

Then the Taliban took over in early nineties but their idea of governance was different from what everyone expected them to be a democratic society.
And Osama bin Laden was fighting the Russians in Afghanistan ,after they left he turned against america. This happened when Bush and Cheney stationed American troops in Saudi Arabia soil.
The rest is history

You are an unmitigated stupid. Are US civilian citizens supposed to have access to anti aircraft weaponry or what is dumbo on about?

Kokobilo87:
I said a rebel group with Semi automatic rifle or automatic rifle can keep the US Army at bay or give them something to think about without fighter jets or tanks making them think twice on how they move and all you could come up with was

"THE CIA GAVE THEM THE GUNS"
like do you know how to reason with your brain or you are just like a chimp with a keyboard. OMG

The CIA did not simply supply the Taliban with Semi automatic rifles or automatic rifles. They gave them Stinger Missiles for instance. Which US civilian has access to Stinger missiles?

You remain a simplistic dumbass.

EDIT: Below is a list of some of the weapons they acquired. Tell me how a US civil citizen can legally obtain them.

Kokobilo87:
OMG look at the argument this turd is making. This is hilarious.

You are a slowpoke and have no argument.

basilico:
Semantics. Why does that Oakland hustler maintain an AR-15? DM him to give up his arms

You are the one quoting the constitution but want to play the semantics game when the obvious is staring you in the face. GTFOH.