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Welldone Mr. Shoeless.



Money wey dem for take repair Police College dem wan carry am dash another panel of politricians.


Double Wahala for Dead Body - Fela Anikulapo Kuti

all4naija: Comeon! We've heard worse about those names you listed. People even called the late Yar'adua sickle-cell sufferer. Please, learn to air your views appropriately without insults.

Indeed, I don't still see how charisma can move a nation forward! Would you care to explain that?

Confidence (comportment and charisma included) is usually a sign of ability and being on top of things.

If your are recruiting and interviewing people for a hot profile job...please tell me you will overlook how the interviewed compose themselves and handle questions.

GEJ could not back his statement with any details.... your commander in chief indeed.


By the way let me ask you a simple question:
What happened to SURE-P and the promised refineries one year later?

Wait until subsidy is finally removed by this your favourite president.

HNosegbe: I especially hated his response to the question on oil theft. What the hell did he mean?

The number one attribute of good leaders is the willingness to accept responsibility when things go wrong. For me, Jonathan's failure to properly articulate a plan of action in dealing with the menace of crude oil theft (choosing instead to shift the blame to foreign buyers and refiners) has just confirmed to me the kind of leader he is: Weak, indecisive, vacillating, incoherent and clearly lacking in direction. A country as big and as complex as Nigeria SURELY deserves a better leader.

For me, this is yet another example of how NOT to lead.

I am learning a lot from him, only in the negative sense.

Exactly... Clueless responses.

Stevens Jojo: The sin of doing nothing. James4:17.

He sees things go awry.
Then issues a statement that 'condemns' the act.
He DOES nothing.

Actually he does something......


setting up COMMITTEES in series

Pray for Nigeria

all4naija: Who has lead the nation with charisma since its existence? As if moving the nation forward is about charisma! Please, spare me your petty unacceptable comment.

OBJ as much as I do not like him never lacked charisma and by no means less Yar'adua. Zik, Tafawa-Balewa, Murtala Moh'd, Awolowo.... The list is endless....

This fellow called GEJ is slow witted, appears to be out of touch from the reality of leadership, lacks confidence (and by extension charisma).
They do not term him CLUELESS for nothing (Vox populi...).


Please what is one thing you have learnt from the responses he offered to Amanpour's questions?

That stolen crude is refined abroad so international community should come and help Nigeria or that BH is a local terrorist group so we need other countries to help us fight them etc

Anyway you have calibrated yourself to GEJ's level of intelligence so you can see no problem. I may be wasting bandwidth in trying to educate you.

I do not need to insult GEJ.

But he has not got charisma or quick thinking to lead 150 million Nigerians wallahi.
GEJ's responses are devoid of any insight.

It is like a "your mama...your mama too" tirade by two little boys.

Amanpour: 60% (should be more) of Nigerians do not have access to constant electricity
GEJ: Go and ask in Lagos, Abuja etc. Power is one sector we have improved upon. (He repeats himself. Finish)

GEJ cannot even state by how many megawatts his administration has increased power generation.

I don't want to go on....

2015....May God help Nigeria.

If not for bad worsening leadership (GEJ etc) .... Past presidents like OBJ who have failed Naija should not be speaking grammar in public and making newspaper headlines......Smh

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by John Campbell
January 15, 2013

Nigeria–the giant of West Africa–could be expected to play an outsized role in the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) force to intervene in Mali. The commander of the force is Nigerian, and Nigeria has reported it will supply 900 of the total force of 3,300. In the past, Nigeria has also footed the lion’s share of the costs of regional intervention forces.

However, at present Nigeria’s military is overstretched. There are troops on active duty in thirty-three of the thirty-six Nigerian states and the army, in effect, has the lead in responding to the Boko Haram insurgency in the north. Therefore, it is no surprise that President Goodluck Jonathan last week reported a cut to Nigeria’s initial troop pledge to the ECOWAS Mali force and signaled that his country would be unable to fund most of the operation, unlike in the past. Unfolding events appear to have bolstered that troop pledge again, however.

With the acceleration of Mali-centric activity following the French intervention, President Jonathan announced that Nigerian troops would arrive in Mali imminently. There are reports that some are already there. It is unclear what, if any, operational significance the presence of small numbers of troops from ECOWAS states will have on the current fighting. However, the Nigerian presence keeps open the ECOWAS role. France already has around 750 troops on the ground, and is planning to more than triple that to at least 2,500. The United States, UK, Belgium, Denmark, and Canada have all pledged transport planes, and in some cases, logistical and training support.

Many Nigerians inside the government have maintained that Boko Haram has links with international jihad networks, especially al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), one of the leading elements among Mali’s Islamic insurgency. Mali has used that claim as a basis of requests for outside help. If such links do exist on meaningful terms, it would seem likely that Boko Haram will escalate their attacks in northern Nigeria in solidarity with its Islamic brothers. If that happens, there will be yet more pressure on the already overstretched Nigerian forces.

http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2013/01/15/nigerias-role-in-the-mali-intervention/

Do you think Nigeria should be involved in the Malian crisis? If yes, in what role?

Will sending Nigerian troops to Mali exacerbate the Boko Haram crisis in Northern Nigeria?

slyfoxxjoe:
I am sick of this mess. I am tired of staying at home, my food don dey finish and I am short of booze o!

Bruv,

Be steadfast and hold on.

This is a great opportunity to demand a lot of changes from the inept Gov't structure we have had.

The next time may be on the brink of Nigeria splitting etc etc

kulutempa:
AS part of the negotiations, Jonathan must publish monthly accounts of how much Nigeria spends on the National Assembly and on Aso Rock.  He must also render monthly progress reports on all infrastructure projects in Nigeria.  Finally he must give details of all uncompleted contracts in the country, and what he intends to do to ensure that they are completed. There should also be a law that the contractors who have failed to complete  projects should refund the contract money otherwise they will be prosecuted.  He should set up an independent  contracts monitoring and enforcement agency with immediate effect, otherwise all the noise about spending subsidy savings on infrastructure projects would come to nothing as usual.

caseymoney:
Seconded

989900:
YESS THIRDED. . .haha

Fourthed! If that means anything.
Do we have a quorum?

I was going to dismiss this as unfounded rumours at first but there appears to be some evidence to indict this woman who came on TV to claim that Gov't hands are tied.
So she is among the "cabalocracy" tying Nigeria peoples hands.

Ghana comes up as an example of how to remove fuel subsidy according to Nigeria Gov't Ministers forgetting the following facts:

Ghana removed its Fuel Subsidy on January 2012 just like Nigeria but
Ghana's fuel price hike is 15 - 30 % versus 116 - 120 % hike in Nigeria

Ghana does not produce Crude Oil presently and is not a member of OPEC. Nigeria is the 8th largest exporter of Crude OIl in the world

Ghana is listed as the World's Fastest Growing Economy in 2011 (20% growth by Economy Watch using IMF's tracker of GDP) vs Nigeria's growth (8%) ranked 37 globally

Ghana has a 45,000 bbl/d capacity refinery in Tema processing Crude imported from Nigeria where there is no functioning refinery.

Ghanaian Cedi converts to the 1US Dollar at 136Naira versus 162N for the Naira

Crime rate in Ghana is low and Tourism is big earner unlike Nigeria.

I do not see Nigeria ripe for fuel subsidy removal at present conditions.

Okonjo-Iweala, Goodluck Jonathan, Sanusi Lamido and IMF should step up their game. We need functional refineries at least to begin discussions on how much Fuel Subsidy there really is or isn't in Nigeria.

And they claim the  economy is about to crash but Gov't can afford to bribe anybody for support.
Definitely there's more that they are protecting than the interest of the masses.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201201091247.html


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A group of youths and women numbering over 1,000, yesterday clashed following the refusal of the organiser of the rally to pay them their booty.

Some of the youths who spoke with our reporter said they were in the Labour House to express their support for the removal of fuel subsidy by the federal government.



The groups are National Youth Movement for the Removal of Subsidy (NYMRS), Women For Thisday (WFT) and the Unemployed Youth Association of Nigeria (UYAN).

The leader of UYAN, Ebi Zuofa also called on the National Assembly to institute a law that will compel politicians to invest in Nigeria in order to create jobs for the youth.

The groups were afterwards seen in groups collecting N1,000 each from the organisers of the protest.

Trouble, however, started when some of the youths went into rampage, demanding for complete payment from the organisers.

Every attempt to speak with leaders of the groups suffered a setback as none was willing to speak with journalists.

Some women who spoke to LEADERSHIP WEEKEND said, "We were called to protest in Labour House against the general strike expected to begin on Monday. They told us that after the protest we would be paid N1,500 each, but they are now giving us N1,000, even when we were told that they collected N10million for this project."

Why do we still have very learned Nigerians that cannot back up their statements with cogent facts and figures?

It is , the Gov't will do this, the Gov't will partner with that etc etc,  Poverty will just go away. No track record of past achievement as proof of their ability to deliver.

It is all a mess. If refineries work in this country we wouldn't need to get as high as 140N/ltr for petrol at all.
They just don't get it in this Gov't.

Who lets commodity prices inflate by more than 100% at a go? No other Gov't will try this elsewhere.

ojofree:
Hellloooooo people, everybody keeps saying Buhari built 3 refineries, i would like to know when those refineries were built, was it during his time as head of state or while he was minister of petroleum. If they were not built during his term as head of state, then he has no right claiming them as personal achievements, it is an achievement that should be credited to the then head of government, Buhari only carried out an instruction handed down to his ministry. I will only tolerate this arguement again if he built them while he was head of state

read the threads before you post

MAYOWAAK:
In 1976, General Muhammadu Buhari as a Minister (then Federal Commissioner) for Petroleum, doggedly fought and convinced the Military Supreme Council on the need to construct a second refinery. With his determination, diligence and discipline, that refinery was commissioned in 1978. That is the WARRI REFINERY we know today!
In 1978, as the first Group Managing Director (then Chairman) of NNPC, he pioneered the construction of Nigeria's third refinery purely as NNPC project. In 1980, that refinery was commissioned as NNPC REFINERY KADUNA.
In 1984, as a Military Head of State, he awarded the construction of the largest Refinery in Africa. Which was the fourth and the last refinery ever built in Nigeria. That Refinery was commissioned as PORT HARCOURT NEW REFINERY!
Nigerians say NO to corrupt politicians, and identify with this true and formidable STATESMAN.
MUHAMMADU BUHARI IS A COLOSSUS OF A LEADER!!!

By the way you mustn't be president to influence policies. Buhari was doing his job as a patriotic public servant.
That is how track records are built.

I have a huge amount of respect for Sanusi but from the account of this email, you may as well be corresponding with Lagarde (IMF Boss).

He couldn't break down his thoughts to convince an ordinary Nigerian on what the subsidy really entails and appears to be either out of touch with the Nigerian reality or is choosing to be non-committal at least in his statements.

Sanusi makes certain assumptions-
           Gov't will use the savings from fuel subsidy removal to do its proper job of providing infrastructure etc
           Petrol at N141 or N138 Naira per liter will not cause prolonged hardship in the lives of the common people because of the first assumption above.
We know these assumptions are more likely to be far-fetched.

We now gather that GEJ took the rash decision because he didn't want to contend with mass protests close to 2015 (election year).

See? GEJ sacrifices the welfare of the same Nigerians who gave him mandate in 2011 on the alter of PDP's political ambitions for 2015.
It throws a lot of suspicions on the real motives of the subsidy removal in the first place.

I agree that fuel subsidy removal is not evil in itself but the manner of its rushed implementation (no palliatives) to even setting up a special subsidy funds committee appears irresponsible. The same people who claim the Gov't / Gov't recurrent expenditure is overbloated (true) are the same people bringing in more people (Kolade etc) to do the normal job of the Economic team, Ministers, ministries and parastatals who are being paid anyway for having jobs.
They are not ready to tackle themselves or their huge excesses but prefer the masses to bear all the brunt of years of mis-governance.

It should be Nigeria's Gov't mandate to ensure that (within two years or so) all 4 refineries are fully functional (and roads/railways are functional too if they are imaginative enough) before fully deregulating the downstream sector. We won't have to pay as high as 138/141 N/L for petrol in this scenario.
Sanusi won't tell you this.

The refineries can be sold afterwards and buyers will abound.

The shortcomings of the present think tank for this country leave a lot to be desired.

I am of the opinion that if you ask Jonathan what he will do with the savings from the fuel subsidy removal, he is likely to draw a blank.
The cabal will use the savings to run elections in 2015.

God Bless Nigeria.
May the souls of the Christians and Southerners murdered today in the North rest in Peace.

The numerous subsidies mentioned by fellow readers were once put in place to benefit Nigerians from her vast resource and accelerate national development.

Obviously all failed-since over 70% of Nigeria live below the poverty line, greater than 60% of the population is illiterate, failed infrastructure, insecurity and an over bloated government are the order of the day.

Corruption is the de-facto problem with this country.

Unless the government of Jonathan or anybody else provides a soft landing for the masses - I expected a two year programme to return refineries to working conditions and a massive road building campaign with railways to follow before petrol subsidy removal occur, the elite cabal stands to benefit yet again from the misery of v. poor leadership.

But look on the brighter side,
The same folks that will quadruple the masses' hardship with an ill timed and implemented subsidy removal will bear the brunt of an imminent "Daman Spring (or Revolution if you may)" that will result.

Goodluck to us all.

'Shutter Island' is the thriller a movie should be.

I am torn between a releasing a guffaw and breaking a tear.

You guys stupefy me!

Please where is developed in Nigera? Please!
The FG is pitting us against one another with these statements.


The North, likewise the South of Nigeria have their peculiar problems.
We are supposed to be holding leadership responsible in our various regions instead of comparing amongst ourselves.

Southern Nigeria has crowded cities with no amenities, no jobs, insecurity, high cost of living etc.
Northern Nigeria is suffering from fundamentalism and a general lack of awareness, lack of economic growth since religious crisis began in the 80s and 90s etc

What we have is a Nigerian problem. We are all suffering, forget North or South.
We and especially our leadership have failed ourselves.

It is like two people involved in a car accident and one who lost an arm is making jest of the other who lost his leg.
They're both losers.

Both Northern and Southern Nigeria are underdeveloped. Period.
Go figure.


Now what are the solutions?
It does not matter if we want to remain as one country or not.
We will only go our seperate ways with our regional problems that have to be fixed anyways.

No. 1 Stop Corruption! Stop Corruption! Stop Corruption!
No. 2 Instead of the SWF, the monies should be used to improve three very important pillars of our development namely:
        a. Power generation
        b. Functional Refineries
        c. Truly functional Ajaokuta (and other Steel mills)
No. 3 Promote Agriculture especially! And other non-oil sectors (manufacturing, SMEs) to provide employment and income.
No. 4 Education system in this country needs to be revamped even if it means bringing back Europeans educationists.
No. 5 Infrastructural development can come later (and it mustn't be handled by the governments per se)

Other things like health care, security will follow if we get our fundamentals right.

At the moment it would be Abuja if you have good resource to rent or own a decent property.

This is because it has close to adequate infrastructure but hasn't developed the full trappings of a congested city like Lagos or a troubled city like Port Harcourt.
Secondly it is cosmopolitan enough unlike Enugu, Ibadan or Kano.

In the past, Jos, Calabar (maybe Owerri) and Kaduna would have been the places to live in. Religious riots, neglect, insecurity and cultism have changed these.
I would like to see Ilorin before I pass judgment on hearsay.

Thinking about it, the Nigerian situation alongside her cities has deteriorated with time I must say.

IMHO:

Both are important.

Good governance brings (better) infrastructure and not the other way round. ADB's viewpoint is perhaps based on the rationale that while trying to achieve full good governance, Africa has to develop in the interim. I chose to differ.

Africa's foremost issue is (lack of) leadership. Let us accelerate the proceses of entrenching credible elections, rule of law and due process.
Overhead due to corruption, lack of planning and reliance on foreign goods will drop significantly to let African governments and businesses focus on infrastructural development amongst other important things.

What will good infrastructure bring on the long term if it is not sustainable from a maintenance and planning perspective (which are in turn dependent on good governance)?

The Economist Asks:
Is improving infrastructure in Africa more important than improving governance?


A new report by the African Development Bank suggests that Chinese-style infrastructure development does more to help Africa than Western aid focused on good governance, education and health. The report argues that the quickest route to development is through investment in heavy infrastructure, in particular roads, electricity generation and water.

But increasing spending on these kinds of projects might result in less being spent on health and education, previously thought to be the key to development.

Is infrastructure more important than Western donors have been willing to admit? Are they right to be suspicious of spending on infrastructure programmes which can swiftly become useless prestige projects? Which do you think is more important?

Leave comments here or goto http://www.economist.com/economist-asks/improving-infrastructure-africa-more-important-improving-governance to cast your vote and join the debate.

Nigerians have decided. Let us respect each other and hope that the next four years work out to our advantage as a people.
Even with PDP govt and GEJ as president, your NASS members and governors who you have/will freely elect(ed) should serve as a wedge against the ruling party corruption that we have witnessed since 1999.


CONGRATS AND WELLDONE NIGERIA

Below is a table of the latest
available results from states around Nigeria from Saturday's
presidential elections.
The figures show the number of votes won by the main
candidates in each state. There are 36 states plus Abuja, the
Federal Capital Territory (FCT).
Results are still awaited from some regions and for some
candidates. The Independent National Electoral Commission has
yet to collate national figures.

                        PDP          CPC        ACN         ANPP

ABIA                1,175,984        3,743        n/a          n/a
ADAMAWA           508,314      344,526     32,786          n/a
AKWA-IBOM       1,165,629        5,348     54,148        2,000
ANAMBRA          1,145,169        4,223        n/a          n/a
BAUCHI               258,404    1,315,209     16,674        8,777
BAYELSA             504,811          691        370          136
BENUE                 658,472      102,171        n/a          n/a
BORNO                207,075      909,763        n/a          n/a
DELTA               1,368,851        8,960     13,146          n/a
EBONYI                480,592        1,025      1,102       14,296
EDO                    542,242       17,795     54,242        2,174
ENUGU                 802,144        3,753      1,755        1,111
FCT                     253,444      131,576      2,327          674
GOMBE                 290,376      495,898        n/a          n/a
IMO                  1,381,357        7,591        n/a          n/a
JIGAWA               491,252      663,994     17,353        7,676
KADUNA            1,190,179    1,334,244     11,278       17,301
KANO                  440,665    1,624,543     42,353      526,310
KATSINA              424,587    1,154,000        n/a          n/a
KEBBI                 369,198      501,453        n/a          n/a
KOGI                  399,816      132,201      6,516       16,491
LAGOS             1,281,688      189,983    427,203        8,941
NIGER                 217,289      403,015      7,893        4,882
OGUN                 309,177       17,654    199,555        2,969
ONDO                 387,376       11,890     74,253        6,741
OSUN                 188,409        6,997    299,711        3,617
OYO                   484,758       92,396    252,240        7,156
PLATEAU           1,290,865      356,551        n/a          n/a
RIVERS             1,817,762       13,182     16,382        1,449
SOKOTO              309,057      540,759        n/a          n/a

TOTAL             20,344,942   10,395,134    632,701    1,531,287

CANDIDATES AND PARTIES

PDP - Goodluck Jonathan (People's Democratic Party)
CPC - Muhammadu Buhari (Congress for Progressive Change)
ACN - Nuhu Ribadu (Action Congress of Nigeria)
ANPP - Ibrahim Shekarau (All Nigeria Peoples Party)

Below is a table of the latest
available results from states around Nigeria from Saturday's
presidential elections.
The figures show the number of votes won by the main
candidates in each state. There are 36 states plus Abuja, the
Federal Capital Territory (FCT).
Results are still awaited from some regions and for some
candidates. The Independent National Electoral Commission has
yet to collate national figures.

                   PDP          CPC        ACN         ANPP

ABIA            1,175,984        3,743        n/a          n/a
AKWA-IBOM   1,165,549          n/a        n/a          n/a
ANAMBRA      1,145,169        4,223        n/a          n/a
BAYELSA          504,811          691        370          136
BENUE             658,472      102,171        n/a          n/a
DELTA           1,368,851        8,960     13,146          n/a
EBONYI            480,592        1,025      1,102       14,296
ENUGU             802,144        3,753      1,755        1,111
FCT                 253,444      131,576        n/a          n/a
JIGAWA            491,252      663,994        n/a          n/a
KADUNA         1,190,179    1,334,244     11,278       17,301
KANO               440,665    1,624,543     42,353      526,310
KATSINA           424,587    1,154,000        n/a          n/a
KEBBI              369,198      501,453        n/a          n/a
LAGOS           1,281,688      189,983    427,203        8,941
OYO                 484,758       92,396    252,240        7,156
RIVERS          1,817,762       13,182     16,382        1,449
SOKOTO            309,057      540,759        n/a          n/a

TOTAL          14,364,162    6,370,696    765,829      576,700

CANDIDATES AND PARTIES

PDP - Goodluck Jonathan (People's Democratic Party)
CPC - Muhammadu Buhari (Congress for Progressive Change)
ACN - Nuhu Ribadu (Action Congress of Nigeria)
ANPP - Ibrahim Shekarau (All Nigeria Peoples Party)

marvix:
Sanusi is right, its just that people are not listening to what Sanusi is sayin, he is saying if the govt does not wake up to its responsibilities.

Revolution  will only happen when we all are frustrated with the system, I wonder how many posters on this forum are children of Customs officers, Police Officers, PHCN officials, Port officials, how many posters here are related to MDs of parastatals, how many here are not beneficiaries either directly or indirectly in this country.

Corruption in Nigeria feeds 80% of the population or is anyone actually deceived that 70% live below $1 per day, they survive from corruption, what is the meaning of its not my salary I am living on but the grace of God? In Egypt the people were not benefitting from corruption because accountability is everywhere except in the presidency, everyone had to do with what he had.

I will close with this last question, if it was simply impossible for Policemen to collect tolls on the road, rent out their guns to armed robbers and could not go on unofficial assignments escorting people would anyone ask them to revolt?

Good question.

Only issue with Nigeria is can people from the North and South agree to revolt together irrespective of who is in power?
That is something that may work against a peoples revolution in this country.

againstGEJ:
OK. Now the revolution is to wait till after April?

Yes.

GEJ has not given a good account of himself as a leader for the past 1 year (at least)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=591177.msg7587227#msg7587227

PDP has not improved for the past 12 years.

But if we have an instrument (free and fair elections) to boot out non-performing people/parties in leadership I think we can wait and until the results come in.

Kobojunkie:
How can this journalist claim a man of Bankole's calibre is the one to drive the last nail into this revolution-is-impossible-in-Nigeria argument ?

Help me ask oh. Don't mind the semantics.

Bottom-line is even the said journalist thinks Bankole has not got the calibre to dismiss the possibility of a revolution in Nigeria.

Let's see after the April '11 polls and test Bankole's premise should the elections come up foul.