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BluntBoy:
MuttleyLaff and Luvmijeje, you people should just let go.

I have a feeling that there is more to your quarrels than meets the eye. Are you in love with each other

There's nothing o. He just couldn't take it that a woman more smarter than him just whip his ass. They are many on this platform.

frosbel2:
You are asking her to go and study a book which your ancestors for thousands upon thousand of years knew nothing of , yet they were more noble, honest and upright than all your rascal pastors and men of God put together.

The bible is not inerrant, it is full of myths and fables and some truth , but cannot be said to be the word of God in its entirety. Get out of your religions delusion and do something beneficial for mankind.

He knew nothing about the Bible and I'm here to teach him.

MuttleyLaff:
My "atori" nine o tails whip is busy doing press-up, eager to get to work on you and whip some Godly sense into you.

Where are the proofs of all you've falsely accused me off?
None!

What did I accuse of that you didn't bring upon yourself. Didn't you say the disciples Christ sent out were on a training mission?

How was that an accusation?

MuttleyLaff:
How did you get out?
You are raving the m word with your strawman mining and pathetic tactics.
Get the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo out of my way. Shoir
Thats how they behave, listen I will run you down, run you out of town,.
Just quit whilst your escape route is still open, there and exists

This is just the beginning of me straightening you up. By the time I'm through with you, you will start seeing straight and right.

MuttleyLaff:
I've told you before and I would continue keep telling you that you are more confused than a chameleon that slid into a bag of skittles

Show me anywhere on this thread or anywhere else on Nairaland,
where I have supported or advocated building Churches olodo rapata upon twenty
I laugh at your confusion

Common sense is like deodorant, people like you, who need it most, never use it.

Dont worry, by the time, the dust settles, you'll receive sense and have your brain reset
otherwise I'll send you back to sender, squealing, bruised up, battered and crushed, to that hellish, dark and unGodly godly hole you crawled out from

Get ready for Armageddon come early, happening to you
Nonsense and ingredients

I hope you know the book of Revelation is a vision or a higher form of dream. So all what you saw there is not going to happen as it is written.

You can now thank me for the lesson.

MuttleyLaff:
Ms Big Shot, high and mighty not. Shior
If you cant be sure of the moniker, only God knows what else, really and truly you are not to be trusted to be sure of

For you not to remember the moniker, means you are sloppy
There is the difference between you and I
You dont remember the moniker, but I do, the luvmijeje

Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall
Yes I am. Unremarkable and waka pass are my middle names
Mark them down, remember them because they are your nemesis

You are poison is the reason why you're in big trouble
and you not recognising you've stepped out of your league is another why

The grass is cut short, to see the snakes and kill the closest snake first
You're now on the watch list for whenever you again step out of line to start accusing the brethren
You are in trouble because when you again start opening your big mouth and throwing your weight about again
you will be chased after, get caught, picked and lifted off the floor before being body slammed

You are so full of bullshit, you put the pro (i.e. professional) in the word coprophilia
Get the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo out of here olodo rapata upon twenty

I cant believe I suffered you gladly when you asked for bible verse(s) showing the disciples had training and tests

You are a joke, a clown, behaving like someone with mouth dysentry. Abeggy shift

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides
by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will
shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness
for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious
Anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers
And you will know
My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee"
- Ezekiel 25:17 according to Jules

Yes, I quoted you first, for running your mouth with lies and bullshit
You talked so much bullshit I didn't know whether to offer you a breath mint, toilet paper or to shut you the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo up

Its MuttleyLaff and not Muttlaff you lazy as foxtrot uniform charlie kilo dipshit.

I will called you a liar to your face, rub it on your face and smear it on your nose

Please dont blame your inadequancy and biblical deficiency on me
What stopped you from lifting up the hood and looking into the engine yourself.

luvmijeje, its because you're infoxicated, that is why you didnt see the scriptural verses
& not understand the bit that partly said, disciple means a follower or pupil of a teacher

I ask you to quote where Jesus commanded you all to start building Churches, you went to the book of Ezekiel. MuttleyLaff you're a confused fool. Get ready to be more confuse. Get ready for me to break down every single shield you are all using to lie against God.

I get una time. You think you are defending God, get ready for me to expose how you have been defending man and not God.

A guilty person needs to confess because justice will never let a barefaced liar like you luvmijeje, take punishment in silence

You tell blatant lies and concoct impudent untruths easily about other human beings,
and it doesnt matter to you whether they're dead and alive

Muttlaff, you are an hypocrite. You have the gut to call me a liar after twisting and turning the Bible upside down. After you couldn't back your training bullshit with a scriptural verse.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont have to do anything for you
What's wrong with your own hands? Are your hands limp?
Why dont you want to do the heavy lifting yourself?

I will deal with you and send you back squealing to hell

I am your worst daymare and nightmare
Rebel calling me a sanctimonious righteous fool.

Bring it on.
and if you dont have a change of heart and repent, you'll fall on your sword yourself

She said, she didn't even know MuttleyLaff before coming to this thread
but the immediate above is by luvmijeje(f): 6:50am On Jul 09

A guilty person needs to confess because justice will never let a barefaced liar like you luvmijeje, take punishment in silence

You tell blatant lies and concoct impudent untruths easily about other human beings,
and it doesnt matter to you whether they're dead and alive

You have no shame, you lie like a cheap throw Persia rug and make no attempt to disguise it.

Have you ever heard the saying "keep your grass cut short, to see the snakes and kill the closest snake first"

I remember Luke 10:19, talking of Jesus
giving us the authority to trample on snakes & scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; that nothing will harm us

luvmijeje, you are in big trouble.
Your closest cover is blown wide opened, your goose is cooked. You're toast.
cc Mobilia, BluntBoy

So you expect me to remember an incident that happened July 9th (5 months ago). Do you know how many people I have quoted? For me not to remember you, it means you are unremarkable. You be waka pass.

So that is the reason that I'm in big trouble?

Copying you 5 months doesn't nullify the fact that you couldn't provide scriptural verse to back your bullshit and it doesn't nullify that you quoted me first on this thread.

.

Some of you have serious issue. So because Lil Kesh and Olamide said it, it's now fact.

What makes them better than those who believes in it?

MuttleyLaff:
With the greatest respect to you BluntBoy she isnt making any sense
What she is doing is strawman mining

BluntBoy what has all these got to do with me

Of course it is BluntBoy

No she hasnt if she is a green snake in green grass
Just because I havent mentioned her to be a lurking green snake before now, doesnt mean I never saw her to be one
She is a venomous snake, full of enmity and hostility, hiding in the grass
with the desire to hurt, annoy and/or offend others with her poisoned mind
No matter what wonderful questions a snake asks, a snake is still a snake
BluntBoy and Luvmijeje, remember what wonderful questions the serpent asked Eve in the garden of Eden? SMH.

You're not trying to make any point.
What you are doing is shaking a table you are on.
The table you're standing on is not balanced because it has uneven legs and also isnt placed on firm ground
Double wahala for deady body

BluntBoy, please help ask luvmijeje, where on this thread or anywhere else on Nairaland,
have she read me recommending or supporting the custom of erecting cathedrals

luvmijeje, you are confused more than a chameleon that slid into a bag of skittles
Mobilia sussed you out for what you are
You are a renegade, you are an accuser of Paul, saying Paul twisted the teachings of Christ. SMH

Face palm and Jesus wept, again.
This is an absolute and unbelievable public display of biblical illiteracy
The cheek of it. She is asking me to provide scriptural references in where it's written in the Bible that they were on training course.

Common sense is like deodorant, people who need it most, never use it. SMH
luvmijeje, if you accept and agree that disciple means a follower or pupil of a teacher
why on earth are you requesting I spoon feed you, with bible verses about the disciples' training and testing?

You are totally crazy. You quoted me first. I didn't even know you before coming to this thread.

All the time you have used to post that crap, you would have use it to post a scriptural verse to back all your bullshit.

I am worst than the deadliest of snake. I am more vicious and trickish than the serpent in the garden of Eden. You have been put on notice.

Who do the hell do you think you are? A sanctimonious righteous fool!!

Get ready for all of you to be exposed using the scripture. I won't go out of it. I'll use it to expose all your hyprocisy. I will expose you as the empty barrel that you are.

Jesusjnr, I read every single thing you wrote and what gladdens me is you being ready for oppositions. You will face great oppositions. So let me welcome you ahead of great oppositions.

But if God truly sent you, be rest assured.

hesilo:
Wow... It's more like it. You quite close to your interpretation, I could relate to most of your ascertions But I still feel that I make progress in life and at a point where I need deliver, I fail to. It has always been the interpretation in my own side.

Don't be too hard on yourself. I've had a lot of those moment but those failure had made me stronger. When things don't work the way I want it to, I've programmed my mind to reason that it was meant to fail.

BluntBoy:
She made a lot of sense.

We have read about how Christ viewed the temple as mere stones. When did the custom of erecting cathedrals start? Why has church buildings become so powerful that many cannot even tell the difference between a "Church" and a mere building? Why do pastors get so excited when they erect an edifice? Is building an edifice the same as building a church? Should pastors not be sad at the level of dastardly acts committed by Christians all over the world, from money laundering to drug peddling among other life-threatening acts. Why are they rejoicing or admiring mere stones like the disciples did thousands of years ago?

This is an issue that needs serious attention.

Luvmijeje has asked wonderful questions.

Thank you Sir for seeing the point that I'm trying to make.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont know why you think they are good questions
but do know that she and frosbel2 need to get someone slap reset their brains for them because of their buffooneries.

SMH. For crying out loud, what has ekklesia, to do with physical brick and mortar temple?

The reason why, when the ink was wet, I didnt want to post on frosbel2 "Freedom From Religion Is The Best Thing Ever" thread
was because frosbel2 is on the far high end spectrum of a lost cause, but I changed my mind after reading you endorsing his post.

Once you start down the slippery slope of self-destruction, like frosbel2 has, it is going to be very difficult to climb off it
luvmijeje, dont do follow-follow with frosbel2.
Please dont dig yourself a hole, you cant climb out of

Retrace your steps to find out where you've got it all wrong.
Go study the bible and learn about temple of the heart, about worship in spirit and truth etcetera

So you still couldn't provide any scriptural references for your claim. I tire for your case.

BluntBoy:
Good questions!!

He can never answer it truthfully because during the era of Christ, he prophesied against the building of temple in Matthew 24 :1-2

Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

Christ was against the building of churches. Then came in Paul who twisted the teachings of Christ.

MuttleyLaff:
Are you by any chance infoxicated?

I asked because I did earlier write that,
the those twelve, with POWER & AUTHORITY were sent out in pairs and that this is a test luvmijeje.

Said they were put through their paces to check their performance, reliability etcetera before being drafted into widespread and wider use.
To see what will they do when alone, when Christ is not there and so left to their own devices
Would they obey, would they trust, would they have faith, would they deliver/have good successes?

I also wrote luvmijeje, that if you had put forward Matthew 28:18-20 instead of Luke 9:1-5,
maybe we wouldnt have been having this our intelligent discourse in this way or manner
Since you are in Luke, then have Luke 24:46-49 in association with Matthew 28:18-20.

Now notice luvmijeje that the twelve were instructed to specifically go only to the Jews, as in, sent to the Israelites alone
and that, it was after the twelves return, that the seventy, were in similar manner sent out to undertake the same test
The only difference between the twelve's and the seventy's testing
was that the seventy were now sent to have the test on a widespread and wider ground,
as in, they were sent to the Jews and Gentiles alike.

The seventy passed the test, returned with joy and testified to Jesus, in Luke 10:17 with the following words:
"Lord, even the demons submit to us in Your name."

So anwering your "Are the above also on training course?" question
The above seventy, just like the earlier twelve, I never said were on a training course
This is a test luvmijeje for the above seventy, just like it was a test for the earlier twelve.

Now this is detouring a bit, to go on to another matter of same or similar strength of importance.
You really need to reconsider what your perception of religion is luvmijeje
because if you thoughtfully read Luke 10:25-37 further down from Luke 10 : 1-11,
you'll get to know that there is no freedom from religion
There is no escape from pure and true religion like you were agreeing with frosbel2 on that other thread

Guess what luvmijeje, hear me out, listen and listen real good
The word "religion" has changed its meaning from what it originally was,
It has changed from when it used to be about benevolence, thoughtful consideration and generosity for other people in need
Changed when it used to be associated with the word compassion

You see, having compassion makes you care, lets you become less prejudiced,
makes you less extreme, less intense or violent to want to kill, antagonise or fight unjust wars with another

Yup luvmijeje, compassion cuts right through Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, New Age etcetera

Watch this luvmijeje, do you ever ask about someone's belief or unbelief first before offering them help or assistance?
Do you ever first, ask about someone's belief or unbelief before extending your compassion to them, especially when in time of need?

If anyone wants to do religion, then compassion, is the religion, on record, deemed pure and faultless by God

Whatever the front, however it is painted and however you've perceived religion to be,
the truth and fact is, what is fronted as pure and faultless religion in today's world, isnt it.

Religion, that is pure and faultless, is about, not, how regular one prays, is not about regular congregated attendance.
Religion, that is pure and faultless, is not, about wearing hijab or burka

Even before what the world has become today, a priest & levite (i.e. pastor and "church" worker) in Luke 10:25-37
had slipped up on what pure and faultless religion is

Anything less than practising, pure and faultless religion, is not true and so thereby is false religion.
If it's not compassion centric it is false impure and faulty religion

Freedom from that kind of religion is the best thing ever
however freedom from pure and true religion, is the worst thing ever, that will happen to humanity

There is only one true and pure religion in the world - Empathy

If you like skim through this post and fleetingly read it, like I am guessing you'll do

Absolutely bullshit. Every single of your comment is bullshit because it's base on a false premise. That's how you get on the pulpit and start teaching rubbish.

Where was it written in the Bible that they were on training course?

Men like you created religion in order to control your fellow men. When next you respond to me I want biblical scripture that shows Christ commanding you all to build churches?

Matthew 7 :1-2

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1] Judge not, that ye be not judged.

[2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

hesilo:
All my life as I grew up I have had a reoccurring dream . It might come in different forms but it would still end same way. Everytime I sleep and find myself writing an exam or quiz that has a stop time, I will never finish the exam before the stop time. I would always find myself struggling to finish the exams no matter how simple the questions are. I have been having this dream all my school days and even now that I am a graduate and gainfully employed I still see myself writing an exam and never comfortably finishing my question before stop time. It's either I'm struggling to answer very simple questions and probably not submit my answer scripts as a result of not finishing on time.

NB: I was really a successful graduate, what I mean is that I was never an olodo in school. Currently work with an oil servicing company in Portharcourt. But this dream keeps reoccurring. Please does this have a spiritual interpretation?

So let me break it down :

Every time I sleep signified an event is about to take place.

Find myself writing an exam or quiz that has a stop time signified an event that has a short span.


I will never finished the exam no matter how simple the questions are signified it's an event that cannot be stop by you.

Personal Note : I've gone through the other comments and I saw that there are other's who had your kind of dreams. Your dream signified you are a perfectionist who believes if you adhere strictly to the rules everything will fall into place. In my short time on earth you, I've realise you can't control others. You can only control your part and allow things to fall into places themselves. In order words, your dream is only warning you that you can't control it all.

MuttleyLaff:
Hmmmm!
SMH at you luvmijeje.
Why luvmijeje, why couldnt you have asked me to shed more light on my remark,
but instead you found it easier resorting to accusing me of twisting Christ instructions?

luvmijeje you should know better that now.
You're smart enough to know things like these.
To know that those twelve, for the past 18 months or thereabout, were on a training course with Christ
and that the event in Luke 9:1-5 is where and when very close to the end of Christ's earthly ministry that the twelve's training wheels came off

Quite rightly, the twelve disciples were persuaded by Christ to follow Him
so He can give them special training in how to be fishers of men
and all this, in preparation for laying the foundation for building of the church

Those twelve, with POWER & AUTHORITY were sent out in pairs. This is a test luvmijeje.
They are put through their paces to check their performance, reliability etcetera before being drafted into widespread and wider use.
What will they do when alone, when Christ is not there and so left to their own devices?
Would they obey, would they trust, would they have faith, would they deliver/have good successes?

luvmijeje, if you had put forward Matthew 28:18-20 instead of Luke 9:1-5,
maybe we wouldnt have been having this our intelligent discourse in this way or manner

I know luvmijeje, what you are on about, concerning ekklesia that Christ mentioned and what is paraded and fronted today to be ekklesia
but I dont want to make assumptions without seeing proof of it in black and white.

That's why I kept soliciting for more information to state clearly & in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, of what you're saying/asking

luvmijeje, it is out of fear of God,
that, as a great way to say "thank you" but without a twisted mind or sexualised ulterior motive
I will plant my tender, soft, pale pink rose red lips against your bumbum, next time you throw the bumbum for me.

Luke 10 : 1-11

1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.

6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.

7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.

8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:

9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,

11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

Are the above also on training course?

Mobilia:
Yes....I was addressing you Luvmijeje.
I appreciate you for saying this because after I wrote it, I thought about it to myself that maybe I needed to address you.
I was actually gonna amend this to add your name. I wasn't able to do so earlier...but I was coming back.
I had read some thing that you had said (on another thread which I actually mixed up with this one) and I was trying to see where I could kindly interrupt your conversation...but I hesitated.
I wrote that to him, but you definitely took it the wrong way.
I know you don't know me, but one thing I don't do is try to "backbite". Yes..."backbiting" is a sin.
My apologies that you misinterpreted my actions.
My posts/threads are quite blunt...and I've had some controversies here on N.L...and don't hide at all. I face them.
I was truly coming from a sincere and loving place (because I remember you from 1 1/2 years ago here in this section and how you debated a lot)...but since you don't personally know me neither can you sense my intentions behind mere words, I'll let you think as you wish.
Your tone seems to have become really harsh and angry now and I was wondering where that has come from? "Confront you eyeball to eyeball?" Baby sis, see this tone...very harsh and combative like we're gonna get ready to box in a ring or on the street.
Anyhow, the one thing I have come to realize is this:
I cannot change what a person thinks about me.
I can only be "me".
I'm glad though, that you have found some folks who you find sincere and loving, because that is rare in life...and a blessing once you do.
I will neither fight nor debate you though cause that was never my intention.
I sincerely meant that I would keep you in my prayers...cause I remember the "warrior" that you used to be

Please do accept my apologies for coming out strong against you.

I'm actually not a calm, quiet and submissive kind of person. Religious force me to be that. My family knows I'm fire. Those who ain't close too me thinks I'm quiet because I prefer to listen than talk.

But being online totally removes that facade. You can't be quiet and survive politics section and I'm a regular visitor there. You can't be quiet with those Atheist guys. Because I'm so use to being in that high wire environment, I'm always forgetting not everyone are or love one who is aggressive. Please do accept my apologies again.

I came to this thread to war with those Atheist guys but fortunately I agreed with the Op. In addition to what has been written above I will list five more advantages of religious freedoms from my perspective.

1. I feel more at peace.

2. I receive higher revelations.

3. I get to love my fellow men irrespective of their belief.

4. I get to understand the religionist more than when I was still one (funnily enough)

5. And I also get to understand the Atheist more than when I was a religionist.

Mobilia:
You know what? I hate to even think like this, but I believe you may be onto something.
I noticed something the other day (on a thread I was on) which can be termed Hegelian dialectic..which presents (2) sides (the thesis and antithesis) supposedly against each other in order to sway the masses to come to one agreement (synthesis).
The thing about this is that the (2) sides aren't really in disagreement...it's actually people with like-minds covertly...but overtly presenting a supposed crises in order to get their targeted result. I can't prove that it happened there, but something odd gave me pause a few days ago...and then interestingly enough I was led to your post today.
On another note, I am really saddened & shocked to see the young lady here, who used to be a champion for Christ...now have such an opposing belief.
Prayer for her...

I feel like you are addressing me. If you are, address me directly. There is no need for backbiting. You know backbiting is a sin.

That's why I love Jesusjnr. He confronted me eyeball to eyeball though I didn't welcome his opinion but I appreciate it because it came from a place of love.

bknight:
By the dreamer, I meant you the person who dreamt.

What do you want to try? You just interpreted OP’s dream

I thought you were a little bit disagreeing with my interpretation. It's all fine.

MuttleyLaff:
What time is it?
Ah just past one, as I was about going to say, a bit early in the morning, for colorful language

This is why I tried wanting to pin you down to know exactly
and unmistakenly find out what you are having gripes with

You see luvmijeje, the twelve in Luke 9:1-5 were on a training course and this is before the build of the church
Notice the highlight of training exercise is faith
centring on no dependence on human, no human effort, no human factor calculation, no human factor reliance

Notice also, no threats, no instilling fear, no promising of doom/gloom no intimidating remarks, no curses, just shake off the dust from your feet

Hmmmm! Training course? Muttleylaff fear God o. The way you are twisting Christ instructions deh make me deh throw my bumbum for you.

jesusjnr:
You don't take any prisoners do you? Wow spewing religious bullshit, well i'm any special as you say that I am, maybe the spewing of religious bullshit is integral to it.

Moreover this thread has been here for quite a while, I just keep updating anytime I'm able to.

Thanks though for having my back!

Don't mention and don't mind mind me saying bullshit.

OkCornel:
Perhaps Matthew 16 v 17 - 18 can clarify;

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

How does verse disqualified the instructions Christ gave to his disciples? How was it an instruction to start building churches? How was it an instructions to start collecting tithes and different kind of offerings?

bknight:
You are right. But notice that the Bible was not used by those people to interprete those dreams?

Hmmmm! You truly nailed that.

bknight:
The dreamer.

Well, maybe I have to learn to interpret for others. But I’m not really sure it’s my thing tho

Honestly, I want you to give it a try. Tell me about the dreamer?

bknight:
It’s rather curious that people think the Holy Bible (or other religious books) should be used to interprete dreams. Although they may be used to counsel.

Dreaming and interpretations are psychic gifts. Arguably

In defense of them, the Bible contained stories of men who used the gifts to make a difference.

What other books does that? Do you know that I never knew until when I was arguing with someone here that it's not only people who are religious who has those gift.

MuttleyLaff:
Luke 9:1-5 has many possibilities to consider, without knowing what specifically you are on about
so dare I say, I still am none the wiser with your remark

Bullshit. I'll rephrase again, are the so called followers of Christ truly following the teaching of Christ in the context of the scripture I posted above?

bknight:
I should learn interpreting for people from you.

Mine is that I dream. I interprete my dreams & they come to pass as dreamt. But I do not interprete for people.

Once I interpreted for my mother. Her disbelief was unfortunate as it came to pass only a few days later exactly as dreamt

It means you also have the gift of interpretation. Don't sell yourself short. Tell me what makes this dream peculiar?