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bidexiii:
The ak is a good weapon honestly and ur saying makes me.......

The AK set the bar for assault rifles, no disputing that.
However if you choose to arm a regular infantry with legacy ak47, it is fine by me.
Arming elite units whose jobs are already complicated and require great precision and attention to detail with legacy ak47 doesn't make sense.
As it is their job is already difficult, why put them through the stress when hitting targets.

Stephandeswardt:
Am saying send me anywhere with an ak and am good to go.....there is a saying don't shoot a big caliber man with a small caliber round........ stopping power, wall penetrative power. ....matters a lot.......why do you think they don't hunt large animals with 5.56 rounds. ......it will get up and tear you to pieces, to me tavor is good for headships and cqb''s. .......okay cough that's all....

Bro while I respect your opinion

I want to ask you a simple question.
Have you fired an ak?

Going by your logic the FN SCAR also fires 7.62rounds like the AK

bidexiii:
..... tell me what's the difference between the fist of beryl riffle delivered and the carbine like ak's those SBSC are carrying..?

And don't forget the NA rangers still uses those carbine like ak and even they are fresh deliveries...

I'm not understanding this.

Growth is accompanied with knowledge.
Pride builds nothing.

Stephandeswardt:
Notice more sbs using aks and tavors together. .....tells you a lot about ak

Only thing it tells me is weapon familiarization, which is necessary.
Are you saying it is proper to spend so much to train such an elite team and send them into actual battles with legacy Ak47?

Vikkie14:
I watched with amazement how some Nigerians and South Africans Niggas are ranting over the Burundi's saga. Why do we like taking pride in the fall of others? Someone says he feels good when Nigerian Army runs from BH, what's the pride in that? Another person says Seleka Rebels puts South African troops to flight leaving behind weapons and dead soldiers, i asked, TO WHAT END?
Why can't we just put our (stinking)pride down and embrace each others so that this continent will be a better and safer place to dwell in? We just likes taking glory in the downfall of other africans, are we truely patrotics to the continents?
That's a report about Al-shabaab overrunning military facilities, killing officers and the US couldn't mustered a drone to suppress or give aerial cover. That's why i like Ethiopia.... I want the ethiopian's style. Send away any unuseful and parasitic foreign military that aint helping your course and goals. Had it been there was coordinations and agreement btw the east african Airforce(as some of you guys suggested), Alshabab wont have a field day like they had. We need to look inward and help ourselves Africans. I dont care if you are Black or chocolate or white africans, as far as you are from africa.
That's Russia, we know how they fares in Syria. That's US and its coalitions, we know how they too fares in Iraq and syria over a year ago.
There's a saying in Nigeria that: Nobody loves Nigeria better than Nigerians. And am saying Nobody loves Africa better than Africans. If we dont love our continent, nobody will.
Stop taking pride and happiness in the downfall of other africans.
Look inwardly and tell me how many conflicts had been reported in North America (with exception of guns incidents) or South america(exception of drug cartels). How many? That's it.
That's middle east that has been turned into hotbed of war and radicalism. Check africa, from Burundi to CAR to Nigeria to Mali to Libya to Egypt to somalia to Algeria to kenya to niger to cameroon to chad... Etc and you will see countless bloodshed and unending conflicts. How will the continent grows economically when we get bored with fighting upon fighting. Isn't that why contractors from african are developing ways of countering western influence to destabilized the continent? We need spiritual recrudescence. We Africans can only stop the massacres we are witnessing everyday. Who cares if SA's are trainignwith their Nigerians counterpart or Malawi training a small unit of Egyptians army or Guinea-Bissau having military drills with Algeria. Who gives a damn? Let's for once stop the animosity toward other powers on the continent.

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upko1:
You no sabi pidgin ni?
I'm saying that atleast an African country indigenously manufactured a guided missile which missed it target during test. It is far better than Nigeria whose defence industry is eating millions and churning out pile of outdated mess

Yes! I'm a Nigerian, but I condemn mediocrity and hypocrisy

Prepare to face the 82nd keyboard division of the Nigerian e-legion.
How dare you

MikeCZAR:
Mi-35M is not the class of the Apache, Mi-28 and the Rooivalk.

How many helicopters types does the Nigerian military fly?

I think what our friend africaken meant was African military needs to incorporate more armed scout helics to supplement heavy attack helics.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, insurgents.

Nothing even the Oryx gunship can't handle backed by LIFT jets.

Read about the fireforce: Helicopter warfare.

http://www.jrtwood.com/article_fireforce.asp

brr

Patchesagain:
Only an 1diot would have hid helos operate where heavy SPAAG is present


What you are not seeing is the multi-asset fusion that is bring demonstrated

More like
Hey I wanna die

I see the keyboard soilders are at it again.
It's a pity most of their post are propaganda driven

Yeah Bleep the USAF they got no operational aircraft
Bleep the DoD, they are all of teenagers
The Pentagon is hosting Justin Bieber and Miley
Why are US soilders getting trained by the Pakistanis

patches689:
Actually, I am arguing against the use of weapons that require accuracy.

I am arguing for the use of area-affect weapons.

The usage of 12.5 at ranges of 2km is ridiculous... you have zero accuracy, in Veitnam a soldier hit someone with a 12.5 HMG at that range and it made the record books... thats how rare it is. Look it up.

Since WW1 the mortar always has been, and allways will be, the number 1 killer on the battlefield.

Depends on what you mean by number one

patches689:
1. 60mm mortar has a blast radius of 35-40m, 120mm has a blast radius of 60m. Accurate mortar fire will stop them dead - assuming your men can land a mortar round within 40m of their target

2. ATGM's are relatively cheap, reconciles rifles are cheaper. 14.5 mounted on vehicles are not accurate platforms due to suspension sway when shooting.

3. DShK has a 2km range, Y-3 AGL has a 2km range. Most mortars have a range up to 10km.

Really?
Who needs accuracy when hosing down goatforkers with high ex incendiary rounds

The other points are completely valid.


Oh and fork the beach and dotted skyline. The view from this metal can make your keyboard sticky.

Odunayaw:
why do soldiers in N.E appear to b on different camos

it's open season over there, wear whatever the fork you want. Nobody cares.

patches689:
You can see the turret shape and the iconic RCWS quite clearly

Challenger has never been destroyed by enemy action and has only been penetrated once (driver lost a toe). One Challenger survived over 40 RPG and ATGM hits.

Abrams tanks we see getting penned in Iraq are M1A1 which are now over 34 years old and lack the DU +Graphite (DU = Depleted Uranium) layer.

Performance speaks for itself, during the entire Iraq/Afghanistan of ~14 years no single M1A2 or M1A2 SEP was ever penetrated by ATGM's with the only crew loss being from a tank that drove off a bridge into a river.

Nice one
Sterling records speak for themselves.
If it ain't speaking on the theater, it definitely shouldn't be talking on the internet.

ValerianSteel:
Yes Israel is buying up to 45 units between now and 2020.First delivery of sixteen units will be later this year.

The F-35's coming to Israel will be incorporated with the $422million dollars advanced Israeli systems and software.Cutting edge even far better off than what the F15Ra'am and F16I use in the Israeli Air force which are remarkably one of the best used by any Air Force in the world today.

A decade ago when the STOVL version of the F35 was proposed, critics said it wasn't possible.
The day STOVL flight test was conducted successfully, they kept mute.
F35 would be revolutionary, it won't go down as the fastest or most manevarable aircraft in history, but I would define how future wars would be fought.

denisfidha:
first there are twi types of co-witnessing if the absolute doesnt work you can rise the scope alitlebit, the pic you showed from your "shooting bench"
The scar is said to fit perfectly, so dont argue for the sake of arguing, we all know when it comes to guns its all about preference of the holder, whatever works for them might not work of everyone, every trained person knows what gives him and his rifle an edge over the opponent. If the rest of his teamates had their iron sights down, the guy with his up must have tried it before during, training and prefered it that way

Having the iron sights up with aim point or eotech sights isn't bad, I don't get what this argument is all about.
You can co-witness your sights, fold the iron sight away as backup incase EOtech starts acting up.
Example is when, You are coming out of a dark room, before your eyes adapt to the bright light, you are gonna need your iron sights to Compensate for that.

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bidexiii:
Don't be upset m14a1 , that picture is photo shopped....even a lain man can tell.....

OK sensei

bidexiii:
Sorry....once in a while we just post the score outcomes btw our gallant troops and BH ;

But ur f-22 raptor is not that real, it has being photo shopped........"no offence "Hope u realized that and one a thread like these what we post are battle field images /pictures and "videos sometimes"..

I see, good cameras are alien to you.

bidexiii:
tnk's M41A1........

His it because of the gore images/pictures..... .

Yes

Great thread.
However most of the pictures are depressing to me
So I would like to seek permission to drop this here.
Great photo thread.

jln115:
That 8kg can also cost you a life, also I never said the SANDF don't have body armour, but your pic proves what im saying, How many mags do you think you can fit on to that vest of yours compared to a M83 battle jacket?

10+1 on full heat mode
12 if I use a mag cinch unit

jln115:
Many reasons why his wearing a backpack, but that's not what our soldier wear on deployment, BUT it still proves my point, when walking around with 40kg worth of kit, an 8kg plate makes a huge difference.

lives are worth more than 8kg. You already saddled up with 40kg, 8kg don't bite much.

Patchesagain:
... I suspect it is simply because it looks cool

No it doesn't.


OK it does

jln115:
How much does weigh?

As much as he weighs.

jln115:
Radio, food, water, ammo, shelter, grenades, ect ect ect.....Body armour with a plate weighs 8kgs!!

All here, for the shelter strap it to the back

Train in amour fight in amour.

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Patchesagain:
When you dont have CAS on 5 min standby you need to be able to fight your way out of or into anything

But really not every man packs that much?

Tacticool
(take of those 9mm, you don't need those, better off with more ammo)

Patchesagain:
Yes, however you can now carry an extra 7kgs of belt/grenades/60mm mortars

Serious heat, for a patrol

Patchesagain:
6 + 1

Same loadout

Patchesagain:
Just watch videos of NATO troops in Afghantistan... the second they actually have to walk around they are lumbering oafs and get tired quickly.

In the bush, speed and concealment provide all the cover you need.

Its a doctrinal thing, if you can give all your men MRAPS and your MRAPS can access the whole theater of operations with ease, and you can saturate the theater of operations so that there is a FOB every 50 km and patrol houses every 10km between and have CAS on 5 min standby across the whole AO, then you can issue plate.

But in the vast distances we are involved in, with limited resources you want mobility above everything.

don't mind those NATO slackers.