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nwabekeyi:
lol, no Sir...

First if all, humans don't have the basic apparatus to survive in water for more than an average of 1mins and evolution doesn't occur in 1mins.

The link between animals that inhabit water and land can be found around the emergence of amphibians on the evolutionary tree. These animals were the first to start breathing air, even as at now, we have amphibian who can breath air and water.

Now, the idea is that, evolution doesn't occur just in few years, it takes several thousands of years for a noticeable evolution and the idea is that: if a specie cannot adapt to a change in environment, it will die and go into extinct. If the earth suddenly becomes flooded humans wont survice but if the flooding occurs gradually over thousands of years, this might give human beings a chance to adapt and start breathing water thereby evolving

No specie of organism can adapt to a sudden change in environmental condition, the slower the change occur, the higher the chances of evolving and adapting to it

nwabekeyi:
Evolution is simply a change in heritable genetic information over a successive period of time. This change in heritable genetic codes can be influenced by the environment, chemicals, radiations etc

In one sentence, it's actually the ability of living organisms to genetically modify themselves in other to adapt to a constantly changing environmental condition.

Over a long period o time, this can give rise to new species of organisms which are physical and genetically dsiticnt from their ancestors and can be able to survive in the environment they found themselves

Gbemishile1:
The Glorious Qur’an, the Muslims’ religious
Scripture, was
revealed in Arabic to the Prophet Muhammad
(p) through the angel Gabriel.
The revelation occurred piecemeal, over a
period of twenty-three years, sometimes in brief verses and sometimes in
longer chapters
Upon receiving revelation, the Prophet (p)
engaged himself in the duty
of conveying the message to his Companions
through reciting the exact
words he heard in their exact order. This is
evident in his inclusion of even the words of Allah which were directed
specifically to him,for example: “Qul” (“Say [to the people,O Muhammad]”). The Qur’an’s rhythmic style and eloquent expression
make it easy to memorize.
The Prophet (p) encouraged his Companions to learn each verse that was revealed and transmit it to others. The Qur’an was also required to be recited regularly as an act of worship, especially during the daily meditative prayers (salat). Through these means, many repeatedly heard passages from the revelation recited to them, memorized them and used them in prayer. The entire Qur’an was memorized verbatim (word for word) by some of the Prophet’s Companions.
Among them were Zaid ibn Thabit, Ubayy ibn Ka’b, Mu’adh ibn Jabal, and Abu Zaid.
the sequence or order of the Qur’an was arranged by the Prophet (p) himself and was also well-known to the Companions. Each Ramadan, the Prophet (p) would repeat after the angel Gabriel (reciting) the entire Qur’an in its exact order as far as it had been revealed,while in the presence of a number of his Companions. In the year of his death, he recited it twice. Thereby, the order of verses in each chapter and the order of the chapters became reinforced in the memories of each of the Companions present. As the Companions spread out to various
provinces with different populations,
they took their recitations with them in order to instruct others
In this way, the same Qur’an became widely
retained in the memories of many people across vast and diverse areas of land. Indeed, memorization of the Qur’an emerged into a continuous tradition across the centuries, with centers/schools for
memorization being established across the Muslim world. The Qur’an is the only book, religious or secular, that has been memorized completely by millions of people.

“(This is) the revelation of the book(quran) in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the
worlds. Will they say: ‘He has forged it!’ Nay, it
is the Truth from the Lord ...”. (32:2-3)
“But Allah bears witness that what He has
revealed to you (O Muhammad), He has revealed from His own knowledge, and the
angels bear witness (to it), but sufficient is
Allah for witness”. (4:166).
“And you (O Muhammad) did not recite any
book before this, nor you were able to
transcribe one with your right hand. In that case, indeed those who talk vanity could have
doubted.” (29:48).

The reasons why there were stories in the quran was
1. To remind the people of what happened to the previous nations that rejected the teachings of their prophets.
2.the non believers actually went to meet the prophet to ask 'you claim to be a prophet sent by Allah,tell us what happened to the previous nations before us if you are truthful'
so Allah revealed them

Gbemishile1:
The Glorious Qur’an, the Muslims’ religious
Scripture, was
revealed in Arabic to the Prophet Muhammad
(p) through the angel Gabriel.
The revelation occurred piecemeal, over a
period of twenty-three years, sometimes in brief verses and sometimes in
longer chapters
Upon receiving revelation, the Prophet (p)
engaged himself in the duty
of conveying the message to his Companions
through reciting the exact
words he heard in their exact order. This is
evident in his inclusion of even the words of Allah which were directed
specifically to him,for example: “Qul” (“Say [to the people,O Muhammad]”). The Qur’an’s rhythmic style and eloquent expression
make it easy to memorize.
The Prophet (p) encouraged his Companions to learn each verse that was revealed and transmit it to others. The Qur’an was also required to be recited regularly as an act of worship, especially during the daily meditative prayers (salat). Through these means, many repeatedly heard passages from the revelation recited to them, memorized them and used them in prayer. The entire Qur’an was memorized verbatim (word for word) by some of the Prophet’s Companions.
Among them were Zaid ibn Thabit, Ubayy ibn Ka’b, Mu’adh ibn Jabal, and Abu Zaid.
the sequence or order of the Qur’an was arranged by the Prophet (p) himself and was also well-known to the Companions. Each Ramadan, the Prophet (p) would repeat after the angel Gabriel (reciting) the entire Qur’an in its exact order as far as it had been revealed,while in the presence of a number of his Companions. In the year of his death, he recited it twice. Thereby, the order of verses in each chapter and the order of the chapters became reinforced in the memories of each of the Companions present. As the Companions spread out to various
provinces with different populations,
they took their recitations with them in order to instruct others
In this way, the same Qur’an became widely
retained in the memories of many people across vast and diverse areas of land. Indeed, memorization of the Qur’an emerged into a continuous tradition across the centuries, with centers/schools for
memorization being established across the Muslim world. The Qur’an is the only book, religious or secular, that has been memorized completely by millions of people.

“(This is) the revelation of the book(quran) in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the
worlds. Will they say: ‘He has forged it!’ Nay, it
is the Truth from the Lord ...”. (32:2-3)
“But Allah bears witness that what He has
revealed to you (O Muhammad), He has revealed from His own knowledge, and the
angels bear witness (to it), but sufficient is
Allah for witness”. (4:166).
“And you (O Muhammad) did not recite any
book before this, nor you were able to
transcribe one with your right hand. In that case, indeed those who talk vanity could have
doubted.” (29:48).

The reasons why there were stories in the quran was
1. To remind the people of what happened to the previous nations that rejected the teachings of their prophets.
2.the non believers actually went to meet the prophet to ask 'you claim to be a prophet sent by Allah,tell us what happened to the previous nations before us if you are truthful'
so Allah revealed them

adefolakol:
Bring other translations and let's compare

adefolakol:
If you want to test the protection of Holy Qur'an, try burning one...Verily, We Ourself have sent down this Exhortation, and most surely We will be its Guardian.(Q15 vs 9)

adefolakol:
No solid evidence on this bro...you referred me to a Christian website for a proof.

adefolakol:
I've told you about the usage of Raf'a, check other translation and compare.

I don't need to repeat my self

adefolakol:
No one is forcing you to be his followers but detest from using foul language against Allah, for Allah is powerful and All seeing.

adefolakol:
Pi numbers are up to a million and Qur'an is just 6,666 verses

adefolakol:
YOU were the one that jumped bro and I have to reply you...Concerning the quran verse you keep saying, I have explained to you only if you don't understand.

You even have the courage to add your own words by adding body and soul...hahaha...

adefolakol:
And bible is the corrupt book?

adefolakol:
Till today, we have many people who have memorized the whole Holy Quran. if its possible now automatically its possible then

adefolakol:
your previous prophets in the bible also did

adefolakol:
And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember(Quran 54 vs 17

adefolakol:
I don't need to argue with you anymore....A fabricated website hosted and designed by Xtain.

adefolakol:
Facing the Kaabah is a command from Allah.

adefolakol:
IN addition how has Holy spirit brought remembrance to you....

bahaushe1:
Jokers! No one is a Muslim until he believes in Jesus (AS). There is nothing like "..muslims are coming to Jesus (AS) in mass...".

adefolakol:
Bring a reference that Qur'an was burnt or eaten by goat

adefolakol:
Thank God you agreed that they all bowed...now you are learning...

We bow towards Allah and not kaaabah...we face kaabah, I've corrected you

adefolakol:
He has replied you already bro.

It was sent down to our beloved prophet muhammad as a revelation "And We have not sent down to thee the Book except that thou mayest explain to them that concerning which they differ, and as a guidance, and a mercy for a people who believe."Qur'an 16 vs 64

And was sent to him through Angel Jubril

Qur'an 96 vs 1-4 "Read in the name of your Lord who created (96.1). He created man from a clot (96.2). Read and your Lord is the most honorable (96.3) who teaches by the pen (96.4). He taught man what he did not know (96.5)."


As for the compilation, He or she has done justice to that

adefolakol:
With no doubt Prophet Muhammadsaw was God sent.
We can even find that in the bible and Qur'an

John 14:16, Gospel
[For] I will pray the [Creator], and He will give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever.

John 16:8 - 12, Gospel
And when he has come, he will expose the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement. Of sin, because they do not believe on me; of righteousness, because I go to my [Creator], and you see me no more; of judgement, because the prince of this world is judged. I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.

John 16:7, Gospel
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send him to you.

John 15:26, Gospel
And when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the [Creator], [even] the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the [Creator], he will testify of me.

John 14:26, Gospel
[And] the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the [Creator] will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.

John 16:13, Gospel
[And thus,] when he, the Spirit of Truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak of himself; but whatever he will hear, [that] he will speak, and he will show you things to come."


From Qur'an 61 vs 6 Remember when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O Children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of God to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me .


So If I convert to Christianity and accept Jesus as my lord, automatically heaven is sure abi?

adefolakol:
Reply all my responses...stop dodging

adefolakol:
Bow to the Kaaba?....That's our way of worship bro, we face Kaaba and bow for Allah just as Jesus and other prophets did.

"And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..." (Matthew 26:39)

"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..." (Joshua 5:14)

"And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces…" (Numbers 20:6)

"And Abraham fell on his face..." (Genesis 17:3)

"…and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God." (Revelation 7:11)

"…then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground." (Nehemiah 8:6)

"…Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces." (1 Chronicles 21:16)
"And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..." (Matthew 26:39)

"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..." (Joshua 5:14)

"And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces…" (Numbers 20:6)

"And Abraham fell on his face..." (Genesis 17:3)

"…and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God." (Revelation 7:11)

"…then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground." (Nehemiah 8:6)

"…Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces." (1 Chronicles 21:16)

"…and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees." (1 Kings 18:42)

As for the stone, we don't bow for the stone bro. Ask anybody we don't. We throw stones at three walls we call jamarāt, in the city of Mina just east of Mecca. It is one of a series of acts that must be performed in the Hajj. It is a symbolic reenactment of Abraham's pilgrimage where he stoned three pillars representing the temptation to disobey God and preserve Ishmael.

As simple as that bro...

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adefolakol:
Lol...God has blessed you so much that you have eyes but can't think.

I have explained the verse you keep quoting but you still don't understand. You and Ken4Christ waved my questions but that's not a problem.

Indeed, truth has come and falsehood has vanished.

But detest from associating Jesus with God...Jesus was only a prophet just like others.


Peace....I'm out

adefolakol:
Lol....like you were there abi...lolz.

Gbemishile1:
yes,there were valid accounts of the revealations.it was written down on leaves,stones etc.
The people around the prophet memorised it wholly as it was revealed.
The angel brought it down to the prophet in his language so he and his followers would understand.
The caliphs memorised it and compiled it wholly to make a single book that hasnt changed since it was compiled.
We have so many people who have memorised the whole quran,which was the language of the prophet
jesus was sent to the jews,the prophet gave him the words in his language.he was rejected by his people and had only few followers.there was no account that the followers wrote the bible.
The person who wrote it was not even close to him during his life.
How can a prophet be molested and disgraced by being hanged between two thieves.it doesnt give worth to the God that sent him with the gospel to preach.
Also,there was no account in the bible where he said he is dieing for the sins of the people who crucified him or to the world,please quote it for me in the bible.
How can i believe the book that talks about the prophets in bad light.it 'belittles' the supreme God that sent them to their people as prophets.
What happened to david in your bible?
What happened to samson?
Another prophet that was drunk and 'raped' by his two daughters.

Who said and wrote those stories?
Was it God?
Was it jesus?
Who are prophets?
We see them as role models
how can you preach what you dont practice
how can a prophet lead without showing good example
it doesnt give worth to the message he was sent with.
go and ask your self questions
God has given you a thinking faculty
jesus said i am the truth and the light,no man goes to the father except him.
He was speaking to his people,just like whaty the past prophets.
They were sent to their people and admonished to follow them in order to receive salvation.

Gbemishile1:
who wrote the bible?
Was he part oh jesus discuple?
Did he in anyway move close to him to hear his teaching?
Please be factual

adefolakol:
It so disheartening to see Christians(not all tho) bowing down in front of jesus and Mary statue in there respective churches and pray. This was the same act God sent Abraham to condemn (Blasphemy).

If I am to practice gnectoctism that Christians practice today, I would rather turn prophet Adam to a god for He has no father and mother.

Indeed, truth has come and falsehood has disappeared.

adefolakol:
[s]No contradiction bro, you are not wise enough to apprehend Holy Qur'an.... The word Raf'a used in the verse is what you don't understand and I tried to explain to you that same word was used for Prophet Idris....

Here is a beautiful saying of my beloved prophet of Allah,
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الْيَمَانِ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا شُعَيْبٌ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، أَخْبَرَنِي عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُتْبَةَ، أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ، وَعَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالاَ لَمَّا نَزَلَ بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم طَفِقَ يَطْرَحُ خَمِيصَةً لَهُ عَلَى وَجْهِهِ، فَإِذَا اغْتَمَّ بِهَا كَشَفَهَا عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، فَقَالَ وَهْوَ كَذَلِكَ ‏ “‏ لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْيَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارَى اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ ‏”‏‏.‏ يُحَذِّرُ مَا صَنَعُوا‏.‏
Narrated `Aisha and `Abdullah bin `Abbas:
“When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets.” The Prophet (ﷺ) was warning (Muslims) of what those had done”.(Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Hadith #427)

This hadith is quite clear and does not need much explanation. The Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw stated that he did not want the Muslims making his grave into a place of worship as the Jews and Christians did. The Jews had many prophets but the difference between the Jews and the Christians is one prophet alone, and that is Isaas. This is the reason Christians are also mentioned in this hadith. This shows that during the lifetime of the Prophetsaw, Isaas already had a tomb and was buried. This further proves Isaasdid not ascend to the heavens physically. Furthermore, the Christians do not believe any prophet is worthy of worship and only worship Isaas as they mistake himas for a god.


Bring it on bro....I'll educate you on both religion
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