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Christianity Etc › Re: My Take On The Doctrine Of Trinity And Those Saying Jesus Is God Almighty! by Maamin(m): 3:12pm On Sep 11, 2018
Primesky:
[s]If you do not believe in the Trinity, you do not believe in God. Denial of the trinity is an agenda of Satan to sideline Jesus Christ, and if he succeeds in making you accept that, your connection to God is broken.[/s] Because without Jesus Christ, you cannnot get to God.

Now stop swallowing the lies of watch tower. Jesus Christ was never created, watch tower is the one twisting and lieing about the person of Jesus Christ.

To show you the falsehood of that organization, I will like you tomakint, to answer these questions that Peaceful love and oneJ have refused to answer.

1. When Jesus came in 1914 according to watch tower, where did He enter, and where is He now. What actually did the Bible say about the time and coming of Jesus Christ?.

2. Jesus Christ commanded that we observe the holy communion, so why do you guys make a mockery of it?, are you not then mocking Jesus Christ who gave the command?.

3. How did Jesus Christ rise from the dead, bodily or spiritually?.

4. Is spirit a being or a mere force?. If yes, can mere force talk, teach and reason with people?.

Let me stop here. Please do well to answer the above questions. Thank you.
Trinity is not the way to salvation, it is neither not how Jesus taught us to be redeemed. That is your own teaching.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 2:58pm On Sep 11, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
The post is 99.9% a lot better now

You see the issue here, is that you want to get away with murder.
As much as I dont want to reply at length, I just needed to address some of the holes in your post.
There are too many to gaping holes to mention, so we have an elongated reply post

Take your time, there isnt any need for rushed up post

I dont want to reply with a long post
so I'll look for your prominent point(s), likely going for two or three of them, if I wont do just one

Maamin, you did yourself in, when you agreed that sun and moon are addressed as sons of God

Now tell, what are the sons of God in Job 38:7, that happens to be one out of the three stars verses, you were waving in Mobilia's face?

I am trying to get you see that the expression "sons of God" isnt exclusively used for animated spiritual or celestial beings

You're not used to hyperboles and metaphors being used in the bible.
The bible does this quite a lot, like in this case,
using a figure of speech that directly refers to one thing (e.g. human beings) by mentioning another (e.g. celestial beings) for rhetorical effect.

I dont want slip into writing a lengthy post and getting information lost in it, so I'll for now, only post this much
Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

I believe you are not by any chance thinking these sons of God are Sethites( The human godly race)?

The Contrast between the Son of God and daughters of men in Gen 6 can't be overlooked as ordinary humans. No!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 1:08pm On Sep 11, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Maamin tidy up the above post.
You turned it into a spaghetti post
hold on ..let me quote and answer each please.

spaghetti or macaroni ...You already elongated it when you replied grin

I'm kind of Busy these days , but i will answer them all..i just need time
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m):
MuttleyLaff
Maamin, I recall remarking that your earlier post has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
Now in this new post, you're digging bigger holes to the already present ones in your previous post
I dont even know where to start from, as you've presented too many holes for me plug

I will try and curtail my post, so not to cause information overload

Now, you earlier asked me, by typing:
"This giants were they physically big?"

At which I replied:
"Yeah now
Of course, they're physically big, as big, if not bigger than the original and previous Nephilims
"

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well,
when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
"
- Genesis 6:4

"We even saw the Nephilim there—the descendants of Anak that come from the Nephilim!
We seemed like grasshoppers in our own sight, and we must have seemed the same to them!”
"
- Numbers 13:33

"Some of these nations are descendants of the Anakim.
You know how tall and strong they are, and you've heard that no one can defeat them in battle.
"
- Deuteronomy 9:2

As I earlier said, the giants truly were wiped out during the Noah flood.
but guess what again Maamin, the giant (i.e. the Nephilim) gene survived.

The gene survived the flood, to re-produce Nephilims (i.e. still extra size looking beings)
Aside Numbers 13:33 and Deuteronomy 9:2, we know, anyway from Genesis 6:4, that giants were on the earth in those days and afterwards.

So, the gene surviving, is what is responsible for the still extra size looking beings

I know what your next question will be or should be wink
Where you are missing it is the fact that you still havent given me a good explanation why the ordinary union of human sons of God and daughters of men produced "Giants offsprings, Mighty men of old, men of renown"

renown re·nown [ri nówn]
noun
widespread acclaim: widespread fame or honor


[14th century. < Old French renon < renomer "make famous" < nomer "to name" < Latin nominare]

why are they famous and mighty ? if not that they are extraordinarily more than the normal humans.

Sethites and daughters of men (Cainites) can not suddenly start producing giant genes of celebrities. cheesy

what about the Daughters of God and Sons of Men were they all ugly?
where did the extra size come from, just like that ? is the anointing of the descendants of Seth RESPONSIBLE for the extra size?

1/ How, where and when has God impregnated humans?
2/ How do you mean " they are not specifically said not to be able to do so on earth"?

1/ What verses are you basing "Angels that left their original estate and took daughters of men..." on?
2/ Who do you think angels in "angels that left their original state" are?

You should know better, not to repeat the narrative that it is a snake that spoke
You also should know better, that Satan hasnt the power to make smallest animal to speak, talkess making a "snake" sic to speak
Get the facts right.

Please stop doing this, it feels like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard
You earlier mentioned that only God can impregnate humans, and i believe you don't mean it in a carnal way. so i don't know why you are asking me that. @ bold
Matth. 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Does this verse says angels can't marry or reproduce? but rather they don't do so in heaven. this might be their jurisdiction.

1 Peter 3:19-20 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

Jude 1:6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."


Jude likely understands Genesis 6:1-4 to refer to the intermarriage between spirit beings and humans. Jude 6 speaks of “angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling.” Unless Jude is speaking of an unknown event, he seems to be referencing the angels of Genesis 6:1-4 who left heaven to live on earth.

This becomes even clearer when Jude compares these angels to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, “which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire" [literally “strange flesh”] (Jude 7). We know that Sodom and Gomorrah sexually pursued “strange flesh” in that they practiced homosexuality (Genesis 19:5). (Though “men” in the passage were angels, which could also explain the “other flesh.”)

Angels that left their original estate is not Satan and the one-third angels that rebelled. Don't even go there

Bearing in mind, that the sun and moon are called sons of God,
I half expect you to say, the sun and moon took the daughters of men
Even if the sun and moon are called sons of God, The ones in Gen. 6 are not sun and moon. The sun and the moon can not take daughters of men and give birth to giants..that one doesn't add up.

I hear you Maamin
even though Genesis 1:26-28, identifies categorically, clearly and definitely, who is to procreate
and knowing that angels when dispatched for a mission, dont have sexual designs, when they are sent and/or when they appear
Are angels robots? when on mission don't they have will of their own ?, cant they conceive good and evil thought as well?

"2The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
3So the LORD said,
“My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well, when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
"
- Genesis 6:2-4

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
- Luke 3:38

I sure hope you clearly can see this, that, they are no celestial beings (i.e. angels) involved anywhere in Genesis 6:2-4
You're asking an invalid question, when you ask of the sins of imaginary celestial beings (i.e. angels)
No sir! even before Genesis was penned down , The book of Job was completed and one of the oldest. This book always refer to Sons of God as angelic hosts in all instances it was used. The "sons of God" (Genesis 6:2- 4) is a phrase used three other times in the Bible outside of Genesis 6—Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. In all three of these instances the "sons of God" are spirit/angelic beings, including Satan himself. The use of the phrase in Job suggests that Genesis 6 is speaking of spirits/angels.

Watch this. You're like asking a single man "Are you still beating your wife?"
That's an invalid question, as he has no wife,
just as, there were no celestial beings (i.e. angels) involved anywhere in Genesis 6:2-4, for you to be asking what where the angels sins.

The question shouldnt be what was the sin of these angels (i.e. celestial beings that are angels or messengers)
but it should have been what were the sins of these human beings
Ok..let me rephrase, what is the exact sins of these Sons of God in Gen. 6? is the Phrase "daughters of men" denote sinful people or abomination? Remember Jesus called himself "Son of man" too.

You got caught up in the metaphors used in the bible.
The bible does this quite a lot,
using figure of speech that directly refers to one thing (e.g. human beings) by mentioning another (e.g. celestial beings) for rhetorical effect.

"3Never marry any of them. Never let your daughters marry their sons or your sons marry their daughters."
4These people will turn your children away from me to worship other gods.
Then the LORD will get very angry with you and will quickly destroy you.
- Deutronomy 7:3-4
I understand the figure of speech perfectly. But this verse above did not lay any emphasis on some special children that comes as a result of ungodly union of 'your son marrying their daughter etcetera.'

Did I notice you, in there above, capitalised the s, in sons of God?
Any problem with that?

Mobilia succinctly on Page 1 and I on Page 3, had already told you, their very sins were intermarrying
The giants were already on the earth before and after, produced by the sons and daughters of men
but when the sons of men decided to begin having sex with the daughters of men too,
then the children born turned out to be famous with plenty of brains, as well as not just only brawn.
NO Sir!. the NEPHILIMS existed in those days(as a result of Daughters of Men and The Sons of God) and afterward...not before those days bro! people didnt just start given birth to giant looking beings. cheesy

Read Genesis 6:4-7 slowly but loud out, to see how because of their infamy, wickedness and warrior fixated attitude they met their waterloo.
Wickedness grew in those days as people try to attain longer and uncommon life styles away from Gods purpose due to this ungodly union.

Gen 6:3 "And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."

All fallen angels are demons of some sorts
The word angel, designates messenger, beings whether celestial or human, who is given work to carry messages or do a task

I disagree along with you too

You get possessed by whatever you expose yourself to.
You can be possessed by whatever you permit yourself to come under its influence.
All it takes is, a lapse of judgement, drop in guard, error of judgement, metal lapse, being emotionally vulnerable for possession to take place

Satan has a free pass, and so with it, enters everywhere on earth with it.

Satan doesnt really need a green light before popping head in or around
Satan is already being and still is here on this thread, reading aptly with keen interest

Satan enters you, I and everyone.
It's not just Judas, remember the serpent, remember Peter
(i.e. when and where in Matthew 16:23, Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!'')
At least we agree on the bold wink
It is also good you agree Satan can enter anyone. But i wonder what kind of power Satan has to enter and make human or animal do something against the will of GOD, or even mimic Samuel to answer Saul in (2 Samuel).


Thank you. I am grateful to you for replying back as best as you can.

I am sorry to be the one bursting your bubble
but your beliefs believing that Genesis was not speaking about human sons of God but is speaking of angelic sons of God are false and wacky.

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
- Luke 3:38

Luke 3:36-38 goes back, to men, before the period of the flood and its happening.
and then verse 38, tracing to the very beginning, says about Adam, that he was the son of God.

The sons of God, are descendants of Adam, but more specifically that of Seth, who had high regard for God.
The book of Job goes even way back before Genesis...in the old days when it was recorded, the Phrase "Sons of God" was used for angels not Humans. Luke 3:36-38 is a later genealogy of the only spiritual begotten Son of God and the First Son of God (Adam). I can also say He is Son of Man.

You are making a fallacy of equivalence.

Paste here each or all these older scriptures in the Torah that refers to sons of God as no other than angelic beings
and I'll prove you wrong, that not all the so called older scriptures in the Torah, refers to sons of God, as angelic beings (i.e. celestial beings)

Written up the way you've done, I have just come across and read a discombobulated post
I am sorry Maamin, but just you have to improve and do better than this

I am not teaching.
We havent, even with all I've put forward, scratched the tip of the iceberg, for it to even to be called teaching

Buff up and start pushing the envelope then

"In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
"
- 1 John 3:10

If Adam is called a son of God in Luke 3:38, what do you think makes Noah?

Why repeat a known and unnecessary fact, huh?
Look at 1 John 3:10 now.
Maamin, anyone practising righteousness, is of God, and by default, is a son of God.
The fact still remains that the Sons of God in Gen 6. refers and contrast two distinct types of beings. I'm not making a fallacy But drawing you to the understanding of this particular controversial portion of the scripture.


You whats the issue here?
You're too carnally minded, thats why you're clinging on to "angels" (i.e. incubi) taking human females for themselves
Where were and what were the succubi doing?
Painting their feet and finger nails?
The spiritual is higher than the physical , the spiritual is even said to rule the physical. I'm not carnally minded to think that angels were once on earth to cohabit with human females. You should be the one to tell me what the succubies where doing. Since the sons of God were humans, i wonder what the daughters of God and sons of men were doing. Yes! may be painting their feet and nails to look attractive too in other to be equally desired.

1/ Maamin, why is it that its the men, as in human beings, that God singled out to punish for the sins of the daughter of men, committed with your supposedly "angels" with overly-imaginative and unrealistic tendencies?
2/ Why is it, that its man, that God mentions repeatedly, as having concerns over and so the reason He is going to destroy them?
3/ Why isnt there is a single mention of your supposedly randy "angels" being at fault as why He wants to clear up the earth with flood?
ANSWER 1: Gen. 6:5 "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

ANSWER 2: God did not mention man only but also the angels that sinned only that it was not recorded directly in Genesis. 1 Peter 3:19-20 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah
, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

ANSWER 3: Answer 2 also answers your query on this number 3. in addition to that, Jude 1:6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

In conclusion, the “sons of God” are angels who sinned by having sex with beautiful women. This was the view of the early church fathers. Why were they able to “take wives for themselves, whom ever, they chose. The answer could be that angels are very powerful. Why did they do this? We do not know the answer, but we can guess. Finally God curtailed and addressed the e issue at the right time and passed his judgment as fit to both falling angels and Men.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 9:09pm On Sep 08, 2018
[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=70994045]Yeah now.
Of course, they're physically big as big if not bigger than the original and previous Nephilims
OK, can you tell me what is responsible for this extra size looking beings?

Human beings are the only ones permitted and mandated to physically impregnate themselves

It is only God that is capable of physically impregnating humans.
Not angels, whether fallen or non fallen, who are 110% incapable of physically impregnating humans.
Humans procreate after their own kind. All animals are mandated to procreate after their own kind. Plants and trees and vegetations. But then comes in cross breeding of two different species to produce another special one.

Yes it is only God capable of physically impregnating humans. Angels are only said not to be given in marriage or marry in heaven. They are not specifically said not to be able to do so on earth.

Show me one incident of fallen angel shape shifting in the bible.
None. Nada, not even one
Angels that left their original estate and took daughters of men , are likely to be taking a human form to do just that not spirit.

Mobilia is right, about the effect of all these fantastical/Hollywood-inspired influences
Yes she is right about nollywood/hollywood and all fantasy fictions you can think of...but this particular teaching of the fallen angels is not. I might term snake and donkey speaking as Hollywood inspired too...since we don't see such in our day to day living. In fact Isn't Satan crafty enough to had made a snake to speak?

The neatly arranged perfect natural order with its serene and systematic functioning set up was disrupted the instant the fruit was shared.
The world's already is and still is, in disorder.
I couldn't agree with you more on this. But the perfect natural order of angelic beings cohabiting with humans was not Until the sons of God took in daughters of men.

Be my guest, if you want to live in that fantasy world of fallen angels humping humans
It is even more of fantasy to even think the falling angels can't procreate since it was not categorically stated about them.

Is that the only scripture for your fallen angel transforming into or appearing in physical human forms and performing fleshly activities?
It is..and it is very explicit about it. Tell me what was the sin of these angels.

2 Peter 2:4-5
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

Jude 1: 6
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

You will wonder what this their first estate and own habitation is exactly.

I can list you lots of, a not fallen angel transforming into or appearing in physical human forms and performing fleshly activities
You will have to tell me the very sin of these falling angels or Sons of God in Gen. 6


While this falling angels are bound it is obvious that Satan and his cohorts are the demons wrecking havoc on humanity. Ichuka said angels or falling angels don't posses, and that demons are different from falling angel which I also strongly disagree. Well , Luke 22:3 says "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve."

I will and more, after you have answered the 5 questions listed,
and answer them one after the other the same manner I asked
I did not see much questions in your replies, may be I did not notice. But I will reply them as best as I can.

sons of God is not an exclusive title for angels
It is not used only for angels

The bible, in John 1:12, says:
"But as many as received Him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
(i.e. she, daughters of God, as well) even to them that believe on his name"


The word received, in John 1:12, refers to "regard",
as in, "regarding someone's power, authority, position etcetera"
adding up to mean, as many as have regard of/to Him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God.

It is not fallen angels but it is the human beings that had high regard for God, that went further down the slippery slope
by lusting after women (i.e. daughters of men) who had no high regard for God
Sons of God is not used for angels alone. But that of Genesis was not speaking about human sons of God but angelic sons of God.

John 1:12 is after Jesus came for redemption. That we are born into the body of Christ and given the power to also become sons of God.

Why make an exception in this particular sons of God in Gen 6. While all older scriptures in the Torah refers to sons of God as no other than angelic beings.?

Why dont you drop the bible verse here.
Lets, together, do a peer review of it
We read, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh..." (Jude 6-7).

The first estate of the angels was to serve the purpose of God, not their own lusts for power, a lust for the daughters of men, or a lust to do their own will. Their "own habitation" is the spirit world as they were made "ministering SPIRITS" (Heb. 1:13-14). They were not made "ministering flesh." They (the sons of God) were not to use their transformation powers to put on the flesh of men, which was "strange flesh" for them, in order to sire children with the daughters of men (mortal women). Nowhere in scripture do we read of demons being able to do this. However, the holy angels of God are still able to appear as men (Luke 24:4, Mark 16:5). Although the holy angels of God tend to appear in shining garments, scripture reveals that they look like adult males to people. Some of them look totally like ordinary men. This is how it's possible to entertain them without being aware that they are an angelic being (Heb. 13:2). Now It is no wonder that demons/devils now crave possession of a body. In their chains under darkness, they no longer have the power to transform themselves into ordinary looking adult males as the holy angels of God can do.

Assumption, no concrete bible verse and outright speculation.
This is exactly what you are doing.
No sir! All the verse you put forward are weak in supporting your teaching. So no!

On the other what you read there, is reality, miles more and away from being assumption or speculation
Things of God are even more than reality for a spiritual mind. Trust me they are spiritually discerned.

ROTBL.
You know why "Noah was still termed as a Man and favour in the eyes of the lord" sic?
It is because he didnt think with his head. He thought with his other, better and correct head
Yet he was not called Son of God in Genesis, but a righteous man.

You don't want fiction/fantasy doctrine. But this is what it is all about right now...O Yes! angels took human females for themselves. It is possible. And this is what the scripture teaches. No amount of sugar quoting or length you can water this down to say other wise.

Cc: Mobila
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 7:32pm On Sep 08, 2018
Mobilia:
I know brother. I deeply apologize. I'm not running, it's just that I want to take a little time to go a little further into this subject since this is a discussion.

Just give me a few more days...and I'm gonna be able to focus and try to present this in the best way possible. I'm looking for a specific thing..so please bear with me.
Folks are more than likely, gonna disagree...but I want to at least give an alternate interpretation of (beliefs) that many of us Christians have always held so dear.....
Ultimately we want to have the correct scriptural interpretation..led by the Holy Spirit (although I don't know that we, humans, can ever come to that agreement).


CC: MuttleyLaff
(Are you a theology major? Just wondering..)
OK dear! Take your time. Will be looking forward to it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 1:36pm On Sep 07, 2018
Mobilia:
Brother,
Wow, you have said a lot of powerful info here.
I love the "sons" and "daughters" explanation.
I don't really know how to improve on what you said.
But I will come back (thanks for you guys'patience) and have folks look at the definition of a "giant" and how that notion perhaps is confusing the masses to believe that angels and humans "mated" to create that phenomena (which by the way, I disagree with).
I think we may be looking at that word from a fantastical/Hollywood-inspired view..rather than a more practical view.

CC: Maamin
I have been waiting to hear from you. God's speed. cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 1:34pm On Sep 07, 2018
[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=70830167]They truly were wiped out during the Noah flood
but guess what Maamin, the Nephilim (i.e. giant) gene survived
This giants were they physically big?

Sometimes, we give Satan and especially, like in this case, his angels, way too much credit
Imagine fallen angels having sex with human beings.
Who dash angels monkey banana?
I am sorry that is a bad pun so excuse it

To start with, after their rebellion,
Satan & his fallen angels, lost whatever abilities they might have had, to appear in physical human forms period.
What I understand is that so much has been restricted from those falling angels after their rebellion. Though they are still powerful and a little higher than man.

Angels can ONLY appear in physical human forms and perform all permissible fleshly activities, if and/or when representing God.

Anything less than being in that official capacity, automatically renders such beings, ineligible from having rights to appear as a human being
and perform whatever permissible fleshly activities allowed
I think they can transform or rather shape shift physically at will...the bible says "..even Satan has transform into angel of light". This are higher ability inherent of these spirit beings. But may be it has been bound and taken away from them in other not to keep replicating and perverting the natural order.

Also whats important to know, is that, angels, never had, havent any mandate to procreate, that mandate was given to human beings
You never know what their mandate is/was when they were created, because bible did not mention it either. I only perceive that a boundary was set for them perhaps in the aspect of procreating or mingling with human which they did not keep.

Maybe I am reading the bible upside down sha
but I know, if anyone exists, that's read in the bible about any fallen angel transforming into or appearing in physical human forms
and performing fleshly activities, that person will gladly point it out, where they've done so
But the bible already did in Gen 6:1-6

Maamin, you're my guy
but all your proposals and including the quoted immediate above too, unfortunately, have more holes in them than Swiss cheese

1/ Taking into account the Genesis 18:1-2, 20-22 narrative,
why were, the two in bodily form, which the people of Sodom wanted to sleep with, in the first place, at Sodom & Gomorrah for?
2/ If toeing the line of your construct,
why isnt Jesus, "who was once a spirit being but became flesh and blood dwell among us and even tasted death",
not born a Nephilim aka Biblical giant?
3/ What is the expression for the singular difference, between the body, angel(s) had, appearing as men
and the body, Jesus had, before He tasted death?
4/ Now what is the singular similarity between the body of angel(s) appearing as men
and the body of Jesus
, "who was once a spirit being but became flesh and blood dwell among us..." after He tasted death?
5/ Are you aware that angels, whether fallen or not, are incapable of having physical and direct intimate sex with humans?
Here is what you fail to understand. Jesus came as flesh, it was as God's plan, that is the divine will of God. I'd just like God firming Adam earlier in Genesis. Jesus can not be a mutated or extra physically different in appearance as compared to the perverted union between angelic brings and daughters of men.

Is like wanting a complete breed of goat or human from let's say a union of a man who had sex with a goat. Trust me the outcome will not look like a normal kid/goat or a normal human child.

You need to back up the bolded for me with scriptures.

We all are learning
Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.
Learning at this side of eternity, only stops when we die
wink

I've given a bit above,
few more follows below

My take, is that, the original poster's use of Genesis 6:2 to create the questioning "Is Woman Not From God" topic
stemmed from not understanding the verse, just as he rightly admitted he doesnt

If there were "sons of God", there will be "daughters of God"
just as, if there were "daughters of men", there will be "sons of men"

The bible, in John 1:12, says:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
(i.e. she, daughters of God, as well) even to them that believe on his name
"

Aside John 1:12 above, now the question is, what is it about being "the sons/daughters of God"?
The major & key thing in the "the sons/daughters of God" expresssion, really, is about dependence
Dependence upon what? Dependence upon who? you'll ask
Well, whoever or whatever your dependence is upon, gives away, whether you're part of, or not part of "the sons/daughters of God"

As, any, whether angels or human beings, living in full dependence on God, are called "the sons/daughters of God"
Any, whether angel or human being, fully relying upon God, of own free will and so in glad submission, is called a "son/daughter of God"

It is from youngfocus, the original poster's failure, in understanding Genesis 6:2, that made him ask:
"is the bible trying to say woman are not from God directly"
and to incorrectly misrepresent the bible with this next remark
"the bible make reference to man, as son of God, but woman as daughter of man"
His question stem from the use of the word "sons of God" and "Daughters of men". But I completely understand where he is going with it.

Like I said earlier, the Sons of God in Genesis 6, are no other than angelic beings.

Contrary to what youngfocus, the original poster, constructed,
the bible was not making and did not, make reference to man, as son of God, nor woman, as daughter of man
but rather made a statement of fact reference, to when sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;
and they took them wives of all which they chose
Yes Technically asserting that the mention of these sons of God were not just righteous men of God per say. But higher spirited beings. The very once referred to in Job, as rejoicing when the foundation of the world was being laid.

Said, in a simplified way, some sons of God, saw the daughters of God that they might be fair like the daughter of men are;
but these sons of God, didnt take to, these daughters of God, as wives material, to chose from,
rather these other sons of God, preferred the daughters of men, as wife material
What exactly was the stigma on these daughters of men apart from being flesh?. While sons of God are born of God's spirit.?

When one, fast forwards to Genesis 6:8-9, moving on from Genesis 6:2, then a proper understanding of the situation in Genesis 6:2, unravels.

Noah, as a son of God, had grace
with this grace/favour, he had the sense, to avoid "daughters of men" & stick to a "daughter of God" is what Genesis 6:8 is saying.

Genesis 6:9 corroboates Genesis 6:8, saying, Noah did the right thing (i.e. he was righteous)
and that among the people of his time, he had sound, unblemished & without defect judgement (i.e. he was blameless)
Also, that he didnt depart from walking habitually with God

Noah, was the only one, found in his generation, doing just exactly, what Mobilia succinctly said, earlier on page 1, that:
"God's people were not to mix with the unbelievers"
All these are just assumption no concrete verse to foot the stand of this your speculation to.

Noah was still termed as a MAN who found grace and favour in the eyes of the lord.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Should I Do by Maamin(m): 8:40am On Sep 05, 2018
Some Atheists will soon flood this thread to win a new member to their religion irreligion grin


Meanwhile Op if you can't number your days or add a cubit growth to status or you know that you are not responsible for consistently bringing the nights and days, then look even deeper. There is a supernal creator responsible for the abundant oxygen you breath everyday. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Final Decision On Whether To Die As A Christian Or As A Muslim by Maamin(m): 4:33pm On Sep 04, 2018
Dying as a Christian or dying as a Muslim is the same thing. What matters is knowing and believing in the saviour himself in the person of Jesus Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 9:33pm On Sep 01, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Be encouraged,
and dont get distracted from the truth.
I believe you surely are coming back, and coming back not strong but coming back stronger.
Your scepticism is well founded,
and it is refreshing to see another take a stand like this
Looking forward to her rebuttals, I'm also learning myself. cheesy

What is your take on this topic?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Maamin(m):
Doesn't hold much water to me, if you ask me.

Blood transfusion shouldn't be seen as a sinful act. Our humanity should always come first in saving and preserving lives.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 12:58pm On Sep 01, 2018
sonmvayina:
[s]Yez, and I am saying the Christians got the idea from Egyptian paganism... It is not a Jewish old testament belief.. The jews believe in reincarnation.. Job1:20-22[/s]
Your opinion and wrong assertion
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 12:56pm On Sep 01, 2018
sonmvayina:
[s]Not every human being has got a soul... Some are soulless,like you.... You cannot be claiming the almighty creator of the universe sometimes in the past stoop so low to impregnate a women, another man's wife for that matter and be claiming you have a soul.. That is the height of mockery and insult.. A being that created the universe by speaking it to existence.... But all human has a body and spirit...

Humans are Gods(spiritual beings) experiencing this physical world.[/s].
You are off topic undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 10:33am On Sep 01, 2018
Dalam0n:
Not when this nonsense is what they try to use to control others.
No one is forcing anything on you, go and rest. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 10:31am On Sep 01, 2018
sonmvayina:
You tried in your attempt to explain it from a spiritual perspective... Until you mixed in some bull sheet... The flesh is made from dust and to dust it shall return..
Spirit and body will never come together again.. [s]This your idea is part of Egyptian paganism where they do mummification to preserve the body so it can be reunited with the spirit later on..[/s]
Not my idea but what the scripture teaches.

No, the flesh returns to dust and perish ...the bible do not teach of mummification.

They will be resurrected in due time when Christ come for them.

The soul and the spirit are connected, but separable (Hebrews 4:12). The soul is the essence of humanity’s being; it is who we are. The spirit is the immaterial part of humanity that connects with God. Though they are mutually connected in flesh (body).
Romance › Re: When You Take A Girl Out On A Date And This Happens by Maamin(m): 10:03am On Sep 01, 2018
Why order for what you will not eat in eatery?.. undecided

What sense is there in such sadistic attitude? angry

I will clear her right there, immediately not to try that and never to do that again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 5:29am On Sep 01, 2018
Dalam0n:
Christians be presenting childish mythical tales and superstitions as reality.
You on the other hand shouldn't have a sleepless night over this childish mythical tales and superstition. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 5:14am On Sep 01, 2018
Mobilia:
Hi brother,
Yes....I'm sorry about that. I got terribly distracted....but I'm coming back...soon.
Thanks a million for your patience again... smiley
You are welcome wink

Patience is a virtue, take all the time you want.
Romance › Re: Two Nairalanders Set To Tie The Knot On Saturday by Maamin(m): 3:11pm On Aug 31, 2018
Eponyeeboz:
The amount of money spent on her makeup is more than your mother's bride price.
Uuuuuuuhhh!

Romance › Re: Why Do Most Ladies Not Find Interest In Sex? by Maamin(m): 1:41pm On Aug 31, 2018
DonroxyII:
You will think she is possessed !! lol
cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 1:40pm On Aug 31, 2018
ichuka:
Bro the verses you quoted has nothing to do with angels and demons being same.
But ACT23:8-9 stated that there are Atleast TWO kind of spirits that can influence a man .Angelic spirits and another spirits known as evil spirit by the JEWISH.
Where is it stated that this spirits are demons?

You just choose to ignore all references in the Bible i gave you to hold on to nothing but misconception.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman Not From God by Maamin(m): 11:55am On Aug 31, 2018
[quote author=ichuka post=70767559]Bro you haven't given me any spiritual backing that FALLEN ANGELS are SAME with DEMONS.
You really don't need to be dishonest here. cheesy
After supplying you with few verses from the scripture to back up my claims here and even drawing references to explain my point. You on the other hand only gave me a verse which you suspected "Demons" to being referred to as "Spirit".

Can you provide me a verse that calls the offsprings of the falling angels to be the demons we have today?

The two verses I gave you in the book of Acts strongly indicate that ANGELS and DEMON/EVIL SPIRITS are different.
Angels and Demons are the same, they are both spirited beings. only that demons are falling angels. While the godly ones remain the sons of God.

You can keep denying this truth but the bible is clear about this

Matthew 25:41
"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;"

2 Peter 2:4
Verse Concepts
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;

Is there anywhere written in the bible that a FALLEN ANGEL/Satan was cast out of a human,No?because they don't dwell in human.thats the job of demonic spirits created by the fail.
Neither is there anywhere written in the bible that demons are the Spirit of the Nephilims.
Satan is not actually a name but a verb that simply means "adversary" or "accuser"..try to look it up and see the etymology of the word. There are verses where the word "Satan" is used as "adversary" coming from God.
Romance › Re: My New Girl Friend Is A Sex Freak by Maamin(m): 10:01pm On Aug 30, 2018
alexistaiwo:
Reminds me of my one of my ex.


The girl sex drive high so tey she will be crying if I refuse to oblige her.
My only saving grace was that I am also on the high side.


It took the intervention of her whole family (immediate and extended) to cut off the obsession with my dick.

Still doesn't stop her from sneaking over to my place once in a while.

Sexual compatibility is a very big thing in relationships.

Romance › Re: Why Do Most Ladies Not Find Interest In Sex? by Maamin(m): 9:43pm On Aug 30, 2018
If I hear say ladies don't love sex.. cheesy

My present flat mate is a sexy looking baby mama, she constantly making sex jokes and looking for who to hit it.

The truth is that ladies sexual hormones are not quick to surface like the guys but when they do, hmmmmmmm!










I repeat hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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