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Oricha62:
That is not true.
What is proof if you are truthful.

Isn't it obvious and known world wide that anyone that leaves Islam for other faith has fatwah issued on his head?

Even an unborn baby know this

[quote author=Mccullum post=68347358][/quote]Bwahahahaha.....which Muhammed are we talking about here?

Are you kidding me when and where did all these happened any historic reference documented to serve as evidence?

Mccullum:
I thank God for the conversion of that man, may Allah guide him more in Islam, Ameen. Yes Jesus can heal an amputee during his life time and Miracle doesn't peculiar to Jesus alone because many prothets of Allah did miracles even Mohammed did many miracle which is not common by Muslim clerics to mention them except if sermon force them to make reference to it unlike Christian clerics that mostly mentioning Jesus' miracles. Abraham did his own, Moses and many of them did miracles after prayer of seeking permission from almighty Allah to do it and He'll grant it in order to convince people that truly they were His messagers.

Which miracle did muhammed performed during his life time? Mention miracles like healing the sick, blind, deaf, dumb, casting out evil spirit, healing lepers, raising the dead and I will become a Muslim

Stop rubbing him together with those faithful jewish patriarchs, muhammed is not and will never be part of them.

The present GO's of this generation can boast of doing more miracles than your self proclaimed prophet..wait! T.B Joshua's got more juice than your muhammed.

Oricha62:
Has anyone see imam or Islamic scholars that convert to Christianity? Never ,but multiples of pastors had converted to Islam after studying Bibles.

They are always on low key because of the death threat Islam issues to apostates.

In case you need more let me know.

Yian1:
I pray you don't die a pagan or Christian. Just try as a neutral person and study Islam that everybody is condemning for some time and if you find lies in it, you should just back off.

May you not die as a Muslim too. Have you studied the bible like your quran prescribes for you?

The lies in the quran makes it sound poetic.
You hear chapters like "the cow", "the table", "the star", "the woman" smh!

sshyne:
I watched that video and I was touched, now must Christians will engage in an online battle with the Muslims arguing on which religion is converting more people from the other side. But have come to realize that people who engage in such argument both Christians and Muslims are people with low IQ that's why most times I don't respond to some people after I drop my messages.

This is a wake up call for the Christians, that man left Christianity because some so called GO misguided him and he didn't want to do anything to sin against God and humanity. Collecting money from the poor to leave extravagant life and build universities and also large cathedrals at the expense of the poor is a sin against God and humanity. I always ask some Christians if they know the God they serve? They always say yes,but they don't know they serve the God there GO created(God of mammon) thinking they are worshiping the Heavenly Father. That man made a statement that Muslims follow there Quran but the Jesus preached in churches today is far different from Jesus Christ in the bible. The Jesus in the Pentecostal church wants your money for salvation and miracles that doesn't exist while Jesus Christ in the bible is far different.
The MC said the pastor will be named Mohammed because "after Jesus Christ was Mohammed " that word touched me because they still reference Jesus Christ according to the Quran.

Am a Christian but like i always say am a different kind of Christian. I stopped going to church because I know the God I serve and am not ready to serve some any GOs stomach, Philippians 3:19(Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things.) And I have never regretted my actions.

It is better you go to a mosque or worship ogun or sit at home than go to a modern day business center called Pentecostal church thinking you are worshiping God. Am sorry to break your heart, you are not worshiping the most high God. You are just a social movement worshiping a GOs. #bittertruth.

Peace be unto you all.



Note - if you are trying to make a stupid point don't quote me. You can decide to die in your ignorance..your choice.

You do not sound like a Christian. Stop the Hypocrisy and show your true identity.

NOETHNICITY:
Who will remunerate the converts?
Thought you folks usually say northerners re poor

Is Islamic banking subjected to Northern Nigeria alone?

Sarkin:
I believe Jesus Christ is a prophet of Allah.

Tell Me where Jesus said I am God, worship me and I'll convert to Christianity RN

Tell me where Jesus said I am not God don't worship me and I will convert to Islam?


Quick reminder:- Don't run to the quran it won't be accepted by me.

CyynthiaKiss:
Businesses man pressing their mumu bottom as usual

I am sure his case will be like that of this corper I attached his picture below who converted to Islam, after three months of not getting what he wants, the idiott quickly ran back to Christianity and even started cursing muzlems for not giving him what he wants despite his conversion. lolz.

You can't be sane and be a Musslim let alone igbo Muslim because the last time I checked, Igbo life style and Islam can't go together.
So if you see anything Igbo Muslim, check the person very well, something is happening behind closed doors.
Just like the way Rochas has paid some imolites to become Muslims so that northerners will see him as lover of Islam just because of his presidential ambition he will never attain.
Igbo Muslim ko
Igbo Hindus ni

Look at the dudes eyes sef, he looks high on something. Most converts to Islam are in it for the financial gain that comes with the conversion. It's all business.

Sarkin:
No matter what you trolls say over here, it doesn't change that Islam is the fastest growing religion and the way of God.
I am a Muslim and I reckon that that's why I'm such a good and well mannered person.

Fastest growing religion by high birth rate and by maiming and annihilation of other faiths.


You are far from good and well mannered person.

Must Christians believe in the Koran to validate it?

nwabekeyi:
why must we pray in that one translitered from Greek instead of the one from the original Hebrew?

It really does sound awkward having two different names do one person, now I ask do we stick to that of the original Jew or that translitered from Greek?

Like I said, whichever language is convenient for you to use does not matter in God's sight

nwabekeyi:
my friend, stop the game, its not a joking matter.

What dies jesus means and in what language?

Basically, what this means is that Joshua and Jesus are the same name. One is translated from Hebrew into English(Joshua), the other from Greek into English(Jesus).

It is also interesting to note, the names "Joshua" and "Isaiah" are essentially the same names as Yeshua in Hebrew. They mean "Savior" and "the salvation of the Lord."
In German, our English word for book is "buch." In Spanish, it becomes a "libro;" in French, a "livre." The language changes, but the object itself does not and that is the most important thing.

In the same way, we can refer to Jesus as “Jesus,” “Yeshua,” or “YehSou” (Cantonese), without changing His nature. In any language, His name means “the Lord is Salvation.”
Those who argue and insist we call Jesus by his correct name, Yeshua, such as yourself are only concerning themselves with trivial, non-essential matters.

I was once at this very stage you are right now. The Bible doesn't give preeminence to one language (or translation) over another. Man does this not God. Beside was it not God who separated the word from speaking in one tongue?

Whatever language you seek him in truth he will surely hear you.

nwabekeyi:
its simple, yeshua means salvation

What does Jesus mean?

I'm now using your logic against you...

How did you come about that Yeshua means salvation?

You need to explain further please

nwabekeyi:
the meaning of Yeshua was given not Jesus, I don't like arguments too, I just want to be clarified about it as this is a religious issue and people don't just give transliteration that doesn't correlate with the version of the name.

If Christians ask questions, they would have asked why most of the Latin words doesn't correlate with their original Jewish origin, but no, you accept everything by Faith

You on the other hand, have you shown or prove that the transliteration of Yeshua to Jesus does not correlate? Where is your evidence?

tartar9:
That should mean Jesus was created and that the term "son of God" is merely a title: @Maamin;@updatechange

God beget him through the power of his spirit a perfect Monogene, one of his kind. Son of God in this term is more than just a title.

Hebrew 1:5 For unto which of the angels says he at any time, thou at my son,this day have I begotten thee? And I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son.

So you see God doesn't need the human ways of reproduction to beget. For him to beget a son, as he wills it, it be.

nwabekeyi:
it's not all about what you and I believe, it's all about what facts present...

I'm still waiting for the meaning of Jesus

The meaning has been given to you already but you choose to prolong and make argument out of nothing.

May you find what you are looking for

Shalom!

nwabekeyi:
the Hebrew and Egypt version Moses means to different things, read it well, so how come Yeshua and Jesus will mean the same thing?

Two different transliteration from one source, that doesn't make any sense, we know what yeshua means, we are still yet to find out what Jesus means

You couldn't even admit you were wrong about the origin of the name 'Moses'.

Saying the meaning of the name is different is ridiculous...translitrlerations could change the letters from one language to another but meaning might remain the same. Which you have been provided answers to already.

nwabekeyi:
I don't understand this, do you mean Esther has the same meaning as Moses?

No!

Just drawing other similar references that's all

While it seems like you have edited your initial comment, here is a screen shot from abarim publications about the Egyptian etymology of the name Moses
Though not 100% agreed on that site.

nwabekeyi:
yes, that's what I want to hear, so how did Jesus to be and what does it mean?

The same thing the Hebrew variant means, the differences is just the language in which it was translated or transliterated .

Esther = Babylonian

Hadassah = Hebraic

Moses = Egyptian

Moshey = Hebraic

nwabekeyi:
I can see english alphabets in those words and not Hebrew alphebets, see Hebrew alphabets below

Lol! O I see, transliteration is your major problem.

Yeshua is the English transliteration of the Hebrew text of that very name.

nwabekeyi:
Yeshua is written in English alphabet and not Hebrew. It's just a direct translation from the Hebrew alphabet so your comment doesn't hold water

You are funny, 'Yeshua' is in modern Hebrew 'Yahushua' is old hebrew.

Just like 'Yohannan' modern and 'Yehuchannan' old Hebrew.


Have you heard of the shepherdic and the Ashkenazi jews?

nwabekeyi:
so why can't you just pray in yahashua name instead of Jesus since we can now write the Messiah's name correctly in English with an accurate pronunciation?

I really I'm not comfortable with praying to an anglicized name when the original version is available unless there's a hidden story behind he emergence of the name Jesus that has made it so difficult for Christians start praying with yahushua.

Then also be sure to pray in the complete old Hebrew dialect that uses the variant 'Yahushua'

tartar9:
Your "Almighty God" begets children; through asexual reproduction right?

Nooo! only your Allah needs all those human reproductive means and attributes to function and beget.

The Almighty beget by simply saying yehi (exist) wa'yehi (and it exist).

And when he declares, his words stand for everlasting.

Selah!

Hebrew = YAHUshua, Yeshua or Joshua (Yoshua)

Aramaic = Eesoo' or Yeshu

Greek = Iesous

Latin = Iesus

Anglicised or English = Jesus

Meaning remains the same all through

'Yahweh is salvation' or 'Yahweh is Saviour'

Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am Yahweh and beside me there is no saviour"

Proverbs 18:10 " the name of the LORD(Yahweh) is a strong tower, the righteous run to it and are safe.

Shalom Aleikhem!

tartar9:
Lemme add my own: Jesus is the son of God; not son of Yahweh.

Somehow trying to steal Jesus away from his father abi...

No! It will not work cause his father's name is in him 'YAHshua'

kingsmaila:
Jesus is the messenger of Allah and Allah beget no son nor was HE begotten.

Yes your Allah does not/cant beget a son but Almighty God (Yahweh) beget a son through whom he saves the world from sin.

nwabekeyi:
there's no fundamental difference between other mammals and human, the difference in intelligence between animals and humans is just in few degrees.
Animal brains are also capable of cognitive abilities: memory, curiosity, ability to reason and to imitate others. The only reasons why humans could be more intelligent is the enlarged brain to body index and bigger neocortex portion of our brain which is responsible for higher order brain function

If animals had the same brain/body index as humans, they maybe equally or even more intelligent than we are.

It's not about the brain to body index mass. If it were to be so, then shouldn't an obese human being live like one of these animals due to large body mass and small brain?

Shouldn't at least a cow be more intelligent due to it bigger brain to that of a human.

nwabekeyi:
first, you are seeing it this way because you are Human and have the sense to rationalize.

Every organism have a particular organ you can't beat them to, we were very fortunate that ours is our brain, for example the mantis shrimp has the most developed eyes of the animals kingdom, it's sees even UV lights, we don't have such eyes.
We maybe closely related to gorillas, but we don't have the muscle mass and strength of gorillas, we don't need them based on how we are adapting hence we have to exchange muscle pack for Brain development overtime.
Another example that the polar bears liver is superior to that of humans, it stores many folds of vitamins more than that of humans and works better, they adapted to what they eat.
A cow has more developed GIT than humans, they need it, we don't because of our form of adaptation.

So if humans have more developed Brains, it doesn't mean we have better liver, intestine, kidney, it all depends on adaptive requirements.

Looking at the evolutionary pattern of the brain, it's evident that we gave up most of our muscle mass for brain mass overtime.

You don't get my point, better built in body systems is far from it because humans are also OK when it comes to intestine, kidney or liver. Except for cases where disease is involved.

What I am saying is that why are these other life forms lacking intellectually and mentally regardless there better physical ability? Could it be that natural selection picked humans alone out of millions of other life forms to be exceptionally developed mentally? Why is there no other animal that measure up to humans even slightly?

RAMADAN SPECIAL: THE WARRIOR ‘PROPHET’ by Albert Afeso Akanbi

“Who are we to make such a decision? To allow another living being -any living being- to die, when ours is the power to prevent it?” -Reed Richards

 

Last week we dug a little into the private life of the Islamic prophet, and hypothesized alternative reasons why he married more women than his own ‘revelation’ allowed.
Today, in this special Ramadan series, we dig into at another major aspect of his life, namely, his role as a warrior.
No matter what Islamists today say, I think it’s time for everyone to come to grips with the fact that, the Islamic prophet was indeed Islam’s first military general and leader of a successful insurgency.
Had he failed as a fighter, Islam may have been relegated to the geographic backwater of Arabia, and the conquest of most of Byzantine Christian Empire by later Islamic forces would never have occurred.
Although the idea of a warrior prophet may be offensive to many Muslims, it is true.
Islamists today tell us that all the wars were fought in self-defense. But studies upon study, expert upon experts have proved to us that nothing could be further from the truth.
While some say “Our Prophet forbade offensive attacks of all forms… He only permitted fighting in self-defense” others, like J. Ahmed Ghamidi explained that “…directives of the Qur’an pertaining to war… were specific only to Muhammad against Divinely specified peoples of his times…Pagans, Jews, and Christians…as a form of Divine punishment -for they had persistently denied the truth …after it had been made conclusively evident to them by Allah through Muhammad…”
I find this explanation unacceptable for the simple reason that experts told us that his ‘prophet hood’ was not “…made conclusively evident…”, they say there are no records, be it historical, religious or archeological, of his message prior to his appearance and that the rejection was in line, since his message was a clear distortion of the Jewish and Christian messages respectively.
Proponents of defensive wars argument should explain the account of the numerous battles, among which were the Battle of Badr, in which the Islamic prophet sent his men out to raid caravans, then deliberately provoked a battle with the Meccan army sent out to defend them.
Bukhari 46:717 tell us that “The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives”
Countless reliable accounts in the Hadith and Sira mentioned incidents where people were grazing cattle or farming and were attacked. In many cases, the records say the Muslims raped women after slaughtering the men (Sahih Muslim 3371). The question now is how does raping a female captive denote self-defense?
What, for example, was the compelling reason for sending his army into hitherto Christian lands, for example Syria? In fact, history tells us that at Muta, Syria, his force met with disaster at the hands of the Byzantines at that time. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 791, Ibn Kathir v.3 p.326-337) Now, had this been a matter of self-defense, the enemy would have followed the routed army back to Arabia, but this was not the case.
We also read about the Tabuk raid, which was a second incursion into a Christian territory, and how locals were forced to pay him tribute after ambushing and killing their civilians to assert his authority (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 903).
Another example would be how “…the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them…” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959)
Obviously self-defense was not a factor in any of these cases.
The first part of Sura 9 was revealed shortly after the Muslims established military dominance in Mecca and verse 5 read: “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)…”
The words, “when the forbidden months are past,” preclude the possibility that this was a matter of self-defense, and in any case, how can “…laying ambush…” translate to self-defense?
Another well documented example is the attack on the peaceful community of Khaybar. Unfortunately for today’s Islamists who deny that this was an aggression, not only is there no supporting evidence that the Muslims were under attack by the Khaybar Jews, but there are at least historical references that flatly contradict any notion of self-defense. Ibn Ishaq/Hisham described the incident thus:
“We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, “Muhammad with his force,” and turned tail and fled… The apostle seized the property piece by piece… (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 757).
Note that these people were not attacking; in fact, they did not even know they were supposed to be at war
We also read that “when the apostle raided a people he waited until the morning. If he heard a call to prayer he held back; if he did not… he attacked… we came to Khaybar by night … and when morning came he did not hear the call to prayer, so he rode and we rode with him. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 757)
In fact, according to the hadith, we know the Islamic prophet was fond of yelling “Allahu Akbar” before and during attacks. (Sahih Bukhari 52:195 ). Who today doesn’t know that this tradition has passed down to modern-day Islamic terrorists?
Perhaps the best proof against the self-defense argument is what we read in one of the hadith:
“Allah’s Messenger called Ali [and said]: “Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory,” and Ali went a bit further and …said in a loud voice: “Allah’s Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?” Thereupon he (the Prophet) said:” Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger …” (Sahih Muslim 5917)
Any honest seeker of truth who read this account would agree that the question Ali posed would have been unnecessary had the Muslims been under attack or if the answer to the question was obvious. The reply Ali got underscores the ostensible purpose of all Islamic wars, which is to force non-Muslims into Islam.
There are countless examples in the Koran, Hadith and even history, of how, majority of Islamic wars were clearly religious, and acts of aggression.
Throughout the history of man, and in many great ethical ideologies that great philosophers, moralists and religious men have expounded over time, we have heard them repeatedly say life is sacred and nothing should justify the taking of it. Even Jesus Christ, on countless occasions, taught his listeners to turn the other cheek when slapped, admonishing that those who lived by the sword died by it.
What is holy about war? About taking life, the same life that man is yet to understand how it functions, how much more how to create it.
Yet, in the space of a single life time, we saw man who fought many major battles, led countless raids, planned many military operations, was wounded twice, and yet some would have us believe his is “a religion of peace.”
Historians tell us that the Islamic prophet reportedly spent hours devising tactical and political stratagems, and even remarked that “all war is deceit.”
We know that the Islamic ideology of “holy” war (jihad) and martyrdom (shahada) was transmitted to the West during the later wars between Muslims and Christians, we know this changed the traditional Christian pacifistic thinking on war, and brought into being Christian warrior saints, and provided the Great Roman Catholic Church with its ideological justification for the Crusades. And we know that the crusades were a response to the atrocities of the jihads, especially in the Holy Land.
Today, most West countries continue to make the mistake that the Arab conquests that followed after the Islamic prophet were purely conventional warfare. But the armies that achieved those conquests did not exist in Arabia before him, and he organized them into one large, single religious fighting machine, from the clusters of fighting men, loyal to their tribes and clans that they were.
We know also that, as off shoot of those Islamic wars, Classical Islamic law is intolerant of non-Muslims, offering them the option of conversion or death in extreme cases.
Yet, Islamists argue that jihad was obligatory for Muslims only when they were prevented from exercising their faith, thus restricting it to defensive purposes.
But, from the Wahhabis to modern terrorism, keen followers of Islam and world events know this, among the legacies of the Islamic prophet is still alive today.

bahaushe1:
As servant and messenger of Allah to Children of Israel.

Is that all?