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abdelrahman:
let me see the verse that allow worshipping of kaaba

But yet you all face the kaaba 5 times a day.

Meanwhile you can also show me the verse that describe how the Jews worship or should worship.

abdelrahman:
so facing wall by Jews is also pagan niyen

Not if the wall is adorned with a special black stone that must be revered and worship.

@Op so because Muhammed succeeded in propagating his half truth and half lies for 23 years and the lies were preserved by his sheepish faithful followers for the past 1418 years to be precised (present days) is an evidence that he was sent by God himself hun! And a religion to accept as truth abi?

Have you wondered why the devil and his cohort are yet to receive their judgment from God as well?. it's never how far but how well.

abdelrahman:
and how are u different from pagan sef?

How are you different from pagan either.? Facing and bowing Down to kabba 5 times a day.

Thousands of people viewing this thread right now, majority are Fem.....

damosky12:
The righteous life they lived which had virtues like killing twins, sacrificing human beings to gods, segregating deformed humans and treating them badly, etc.


It tool Christianity to stop the heinous practices they call their heritage. Funny enough, some of the guys criticizing Christianity today could have been offered to some gods in their village.



Think, guys. Africa had no worthy heritage as regarding religion.

My brother tell them.

frosbel2:
Keep your bible given to you by the white man.

Before we had the bible , we lived more righteous and happy lives.

Righteous life can be subjected to different definitions here.

Xiadnat:
You...this guy. Long time.

Aleichem Shalom

How are you doing?

frosbel2:
Well said !

Problem is Africans have lost all originality, they will kill and die for another man's god.

I personally believe in the one God Almighty and that is where it ends.

I thought you became an Atheist

Anyways believing in One God Almighty is good for a start. "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble" (James 2:19).

God is Supreme Consciousness or strong one(s)

Xiadnat:
........ The message of salvation is as useful as it gets. It us eternal, while all else will eventually fade away.


The simple answer to this question is in that of PURPOSE......


The purpose of the bible and Jesus coming to earth was that of the message of salvation. Not to waste his limited time on earth on with peripheral issues.

Xiadnat it's been ages...how are you doing? Shalom aleikhem

harbjar:
So you believe lot committed incest with his daughters...
So the God of the bible destroyed sodom and Gomorrah for homosexuality and spared lot for incest... �
I wonder why you're not following the footsteps of your prophets

You should first of all ask your ignorant self if that footstep was meant to be followed, was it a commandment from God to be followed? Was Lot a prophet? The same God has not destroyed the present world for homosexuality, Trans, Paedophilia (which your prophet is the father and master of ) yet this people live among us. So you can start to kill them by yourself if God's judgment is delaying.

You were quoting Songs of Solomon, as to contain porn and erotic contents but the same Hypocrite like you and your muslim imams will run to Songs of Solomon looking for the name of your paedophile prophet to validate your misconstrued quran. Wake up brother!

harbjar:
i would definitely have had no problem with it if they were romance... i mean what is there if God is teaching us how to have romance with our lawful wives.... but some of these stories here are that of incest eg lot and his daughters, adultery... (samson) and prostitution ( Ezekiel 23).... what should those be doing in a book of God and what lessons are to be learnt from such... do well to tell me the punishment God gave to Samson for on to sleep with a prostitute... yes! Muhammad was romantic but with his wives not daughters or prostitutes
.

Shut up and stop forming holier than thou, can you explain to me in the quran how Adam and Eve's Children got married? Who told you your prophet was romantic or rather a sexual prowess and glorified pedophile.

Because it is the book of God, so God should shy away from the affairs of his creations right? Why do you think it should not be there?..Oh I see. That was why Muhammed and his disciples separated their escapade from the quran while copying the bible and called it Hadith hun?

You should hide your face in shame for being greatly mislead by that your self proclaimed Arabian prophet of doom. Better turn to Christ and be saved.

harbjar:
really.... the kind of hard porn stories you get from your so called book of god filled with different level of incest are such that you cant get from porn books.... you claim this book was written under the power of the holy spirit nd u want to ask... of what reasons will God be revealing this hard level porn to humans in his book ...
(1) Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an
harlot, and went in unto her. – Bible : Judges (16) :
1.
(2) And they made their father drink wine that
night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her
father; and he perceived not when she lay down,
nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the
morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger,
Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us
make him drink wine this night also; and go thou
in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of
our father. And they made their father drink wine
that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with
him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor
when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of
Lot with child by their father. – Bible : Genesis
(19) : 33 – 36.
(3) And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that
land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his
father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the
sons of Jacob were twelve. – Bible : Genesis (35) :
22.
(4) And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain
Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took
her, and went in unto her. – Bible: Genesis (38) : 2.
(5) And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy
brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to
thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should
not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in
unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the
ground, lest that he should give seed to his
brother. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 8 – 9.
(6) When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an
harlot; because she had covered her face. And he
turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray
thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not
that she was his daughter in law.) And she said,
What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in
unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from
the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge,
till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I
give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy
bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And
he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she
conceived by him. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 15 – 18.
(7) And when she had brought them unto him to
eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come
lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay,
my brother, do not force me; for no such thing
ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly.
And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and
as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in
Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the
king; for he will not withhold me from thee.
Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but,
being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with
her. – Bible : 2 Samuel (13) : 11 – 14.
( So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of
the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s
concubines in the sight of all Israel. – Bible : 2
Samuel (16) : 22.
(9) Thou hast played the LovePeddler also with the
Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou
hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest
not be satisfied. – Bible : Ezekiel (16) : 28.
(10) And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they
committed whoredoms in their youth: there were
their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the
teats of their virginity. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 3.
(11) And Aholah played the harlot when she was
mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians
her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue,
captains and rulers, all of them desirable young
men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she
committed her whoredoms with them, with all
them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and
with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she
defiled herself. Neither left she her whoredoms
brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with
her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity,
and poured their whoredom upon her. – Bible :
Ezekiel (23) : 5 – 8.
(12) And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was
more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and
in her whoredoms more than her sister in her
whoredoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her
neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most
gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of
them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was
defiled, that they took both one way, And that she
increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men
pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the
Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with
girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire
upon their heads, all of them princes to look to,
after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea,
the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw
them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent
messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the
Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and
they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was
polluted with them, and her mind was alienated
from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and
discovered her unclothedness: then my mind was
alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated
from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms,
in calling to remembrance the days of her youth,
wherein she had played the harlot in the land of
Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose
flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is
like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to
remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in
bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of
thy youth. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 11 – 21.
(13) My people ask counsel at their stocks, and
their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of
whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have
gone a whoring from under their God. – Bible:
Hosea (4) : 12.
(14) I have seen an horrible thing in the house of
Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is
defiled. – Bible : Hosea (6) : 10.
(15) Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people:
for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou
hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. – Bible :
Hosea (9) : 1.
(16) And he drank of the wine, and was drunken;
and he was uncovered within his tent. – Bible :
Genesis (9) : 21.
(17) And he stripped off his clothes also, and
prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay
down naked all that day and all that night.
Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the
prophets? – Bible : 1 Samuel (19) : 24.
(18) Then David returned to bless his household.
And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet
David, and said, How glorious was the king of
Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the
eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of
the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! –
Bible : 2 Samuel (6) : 20.
(19) So shall the king of Assyria lead away the
Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives,
young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their
buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. –
Bible : Isaiah (20) : 4.
(20) And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned
among the youths, a young man void of
understanding, Passing through the street near her
corner; and he went the way to her house, In the
twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
And, behold, there met him a woman with the
attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud
and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now
is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait
at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed
him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I
have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed
my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee,
diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I
have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry,
with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have
perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning:
let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman
is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath
taken a bag of money with him, and will come
home at the day appointed. With her much fair
speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering
of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her
straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as
a fool to the correction of the stocks; – Bible :
Proverbs (7) : 7 – 22.
(21) Their children also shall be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and
their wives ravished. – Bible : Isaiah (13) : 16.
(22) And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech
against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a
maid; and yet these are the tokens of my
daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth
before the elders of the city. – Bible :
Deuteronomy (22) : 17.
(23) While the king sitteth at his table, my
spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle
of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie
all night betwixt my breasts. – Bible : Song of
Solomon (1) : 12 – 13.
(24) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that
are twins, which feed among the lilies. – Bible :
Song of Solomon (4) : 5.
(25) I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then
was I in his eyes as one that found favour. – Bible
: Song of Solomon ( : 10.
(26) But all the women children, that have not
known a man by lying with him, keep alive for
yourselves. – Bible : Numbers (31) : 18.
(27) This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy
breasts to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to
the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs
thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of
the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; –
Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 7 – 8.
(28) And David sent messengers, and took her; and
she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she
was purified from her uncleanness: and she
returned unto her house. – Bible : 2 Samuel (11) :
4.
(29) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that
are twins. – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 3t
the funny thing is you accuse muhammad (s.a.w) of copying the bible and out of all the different filthy stories in the bible.. he didnt copy even one

Like I said, This is to show you that the Bible was not sugar quoted neither does the bible tried to hide any secrete in the form of (Al taqiyyah) like your quran. All stories and events were documented and told as it is. And this is meant to teach, correct and direct us from doing same mistakes in our time.

Your Prophet copied the bible however the case may be. But the Bible remains the best seller of all time..deal with it.

harbjar:
Not with some added spice bruh. With corrections and giving us the true story.... Stories which doesnt befit the prophets of God eg lot committing incest ....
Genesis 19:32-37
[32]Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[33]And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[34]And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[35]And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[36]Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
[37]And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
And other filthy dirty attributes of the prophets of God including jesus were corrected by God in his final revelation (Qur'an).. . So be careful of what you say and get your self the final testament of God to see the truth

This is to show you that the Bible was not sugar quoted neither does the bible tried to hide any secrete. All stories and events were documented and told as it is.

As for your quran it was all spiced and garnished with fables

All what you wrote up there does not even amount to your prophet's paedophilia

harbjar:
Surah Al-Ankaboot, Surah Al-Ankaboot, Verse 48:

وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُو مِن قَبْلِهِ مِن كِتَابٍ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُ بِيَمِينِكَ إِذًا لَّارْتَابَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Quran), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.
(English - Mohsin Khan)
For more information click on the link http://www.islam101.com/religions/christianity/faq.htm

You are right he did not read any book before the quran but he use to learn the Jewish and Christian scriptures from the Jews around him in those days.

The bible was canonised 600 years before the quran was. How comes the stories in the bible were found in the quran with some added spice? Hun!

aaronson:
I'm just gonna break it down just so you catch a glimpse of the entirety of the Bible.

* Beginning if the Ancient Greek, that was when writing started but not dated documation at the time.

* From Ancient Greek down to the Roman empire era, A lot of wars, ruins, missing scrolls, arson, real event, foklores, fairytales, mythology, mythical characters etc occurred and those documentation is what we told referred to as the Bible. It NOT accurate because there wasn't no witness to validate stories in the Bible. And the Bible was written haphazardly, for example - what happened in 1992 was written followed by what happen In 2017 then goes back to 1997 to continue with no clear explanation, this why, questions like God created Adam and eve but who were other people in the world is still unanswered.

Now back to your question, Why do most religion has has same text.

That's because they got their original text from the same source for example the story of Jesus is folklore and the real event is odysious (Not sure I spelt it right but do your research), It's a character of a figure been born by a virgin mom.

For the most part, Christians and Muslim also got many text from the same source in Egypt too filled with mythical creature characters etc. And till date there are rooms in the Vatican filled with books not accessible by the public and the room is highly guarded. If those books were out in the public you truly know how FAKE religion is.

To further prove my points.

Have you ever asked yourself , why is the words in the Bible spelt different from English? like come cometh, Say sayeth etc. This is because of the translation from Latin and Greek to English.

The bible was not written haphazardly but rather in chronological order having a Genesis (origin) to Revelation (end)

The words cometh, sayeth are old style of literature common in the early 400 A.D

aaronson:
Yeah, it's the same toilet, different sh1t. But it's not you to reply, I'm in a conversation with enilove and waiting on the fellow to reply. Not you!

I corrected your misunderstanding, try to put on a coat of humility for once.

enilove:
TOTAL NONSENSE.

The First Bible ( Torah or the Old Testament ) was originally written in Hebrew , the language of the Israelites. This was kept by the Israelites for more than 1,500 years b4 it was translated to Koine Greek in 2nd or 3rd century BC.

Ex. The word "Genesis" is a Hebrew language meaning "beginning" or " Origin".

The new Testament was in Koine Greek.

Also , God did not create other humans after Adam and Eve. If you have questions in this regard just ask and don't assume that the Bible is not complete or correct.
Everything that is in the Bible is correct and perfect words of God.


Had it been there was no written documents like the Bible you people would have asked why it was not written down. But now that it is written , you are still looking for something to say.

At the bold, the word "Genesis" is not Hebrew word but rather Greek word that means 'Origin'. The Hebrew word for Genesis is "Bereshit".

aaronson:
To [s]put it straight, Descendants of the Jews. Right?[/s]

No! Jews are rather descendants of Israel(Jacob)

Point of correction

SAW stands for SallaAllahiWasalam

I think he needs the prayer more where he is right now

Let's first of all know this basic truth

Yahweh is God Almighty aka the Father
Jesus is a mighty God aka Son of God Almighty

Now the word 'God' is a title denoting 'strong one' or 'mighty one'

Yahweh aka God Almighty aka the Father acknowledges that there are other gods or Gods but there is none or equal to him (God Almighty)

Is Yahweh and Jesus coequal? No No No
"The father is greater than i" said Jesus the son.

Question - Who walked the earth and was crucified and died for three days and rose back to life?

Answer - Jesus the Son

Question - Who raised him?

Answer - God Almighty (the father)

Question - does the bible support trinity?

Answer - No

Note this Down: Holy Spirit and Jesus the Son are possession and divine emanation of God Almighty (the father) who is revealed as Kether (Crown) i.e ruler and the head of all things above and below.

Like I earlier said in one of your thread that I agree with most of JW teaching to be scriptural based. And this makes your organisation adorable to some reasonable extent.

What drags your organisation back into the mud is simply becoming that very thing you vehemently stand against on the long run.

What am I driving at?

If by your sole scriptural knowledge disregard the trinity doctrine held by so many churches today as not supported or revealed in any verses of the bible in turn assert that archangel Michael is Jesus Christ by just speculation without biblical evidence or support, then what makes you different from the trinitarians and their belief?

This is one part of JW doctrine i am not in agreement with. Cause it is ridiculously and outrageously erroneous.

I would have love to debunk this but so many brethren already done that above. Thanks guys!

Shalom Aleikhem!

Peacefullove:
Sir , never knew you saw the way Junia keep somersaulting

That was very disappointing if you ask me.

Nice Thread so far. I'm Not a JW but I think they are more grounded in scriptural knowledge than those who oppose them . I might not also agree with all their teaching either

Some people just hate them for no specific reason.

But if you look at all the seven churches in Revelation none really got it 100% right either. So don't sweat it guys

Junia:
The Hebrew phrase translated as ‘sons of God’ in the Masoretic Text is benê-hā´elōhîm. Bĕnê hāʾĕlōhîm (‘sons of God’) are angels.

I wish you stop replying people here, I don't think you know what you are saying..you contradict yourself greatly.

Benei ha'elohim still agreed with peacefullove that the angels where called the sons of God.

Valro:
Throne crier

Kai

Following carefully...interesting

Superman30:
Christians should better repent and become Muslims immediately



*".......AND GOD DIED....." 5 OF 6*

� *The correct teachings of Jesus within the Bible proves all Paul’s fabricated letters/writings within the Bible false*. The whole idea is just nonsensical. Paul, a man that never even met Jesus. *So, WHO IS/ARE THE AUTHORS OF THIS CONFUSION CALLED THE BIBLE*.
❌Obviously not God, but many uninspired, unidentifiable liars & Fraudsters & ANTICHRISTS such as Paul.
*“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints*. 1 Corinthians 14:33”.
�With both anti God & Pro God positions, errors & fallacies, inconsistencies etc.
*“The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE!” Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline “50,000 Errors in The Bible?*
� The protestant bible has 66-books, the Catholic bible has 73-books , despite this amazing disparity; the apologists still claim that there is only one error free bible supposedly revealed by the (3 in 1 God) PRESENTING THIS VERSE AS A PROOF
*“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” 2Timothy 3:16.*
❓SO, HOW MANY BOOKS WERE ACTUALLY GOD-BREATHED.
⚠ *The same bible warns: “and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” Rev. 22:19”*.
❓SO, WHO IS CURSED BY THE BIBLE? *THE CATHOLICS OR THE PROTESTANTS?* TO BE SURE OF THIS, WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUE NUMBER OF BOOKS SUPPOSEDLY REVEALED BY GOD SO AS TO KNOW WHO ADDED OR SUBTRACTED FROM IT.✅Allah, in the last testament called THE QURAN also curses the authors of confusion. *“So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn”. Q2: 79*.
�The sicknesses of the bible have been diagnosed long ago by the Christian theologians & the answer is expressed in the Preface to the *Revised Standard Version (RSV) 2nd ed., 1971) “Yet, the King James Version has grave defects*. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that *THESE DEFECTS ARE SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS AS TO CALL FOR REVISION of the English translation.”.* The preface of the Queens James Bible also says *“the Bible is still filled with inequality and even contradictions that we have not addressed. No Bible is perfect, including this one.”*.
�Luke 1 vs 1-4 proof that the *bible is nothing but a compilation of stories & letters written by human beings to one another*. “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.“.
❓Is it imaginable that despite all these proofs of human authorship with serious defects, the book still says that entire bible is GOD BREATHED? 2Timothy 3:16.
How can any right thinking person base his/her salvation in the hereafter on a book of confusion supposedly written by 40 uninspired men of Satan.
�INSPIRED INDEED, WHAT A BOOK!
�Tap these links for extensive proofs that the bible is simply the words of Men, not God. http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm�In contrast to the sick book called the bible, is *the last testament & the best challenge which has been divinely revealed to the last prophet & divinely protected*.
� “Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr/Reminder (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”. Q15:9.
� *This is the most positive speech in the world. It’s a proclamation to humanity, a fountain of mercy, guidance for all, healing for the sick, wisdom for all, warning to the heedless, assurance to doubters, solace to the suffering, hope to the desperate, criterion differentiating right from wrong & the greatest miracle to humankind.It is the timeless Speech of Allah, it is not a creation of Allah.*
�THE QURAN. Read a copy today and be saved God willing.
� *Request for free the English pdf or audio translation from Sheikh Jesus.*
“Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction”. Q4:82.
�The bible & the Qur’an talk about the creation of Adam & Eve (May peace be upon them) but there is a world of difference between their accounts. For instance, the bible blames only eve while the Qur’an blame both of them. We said: “O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.” [Q2:35].In the Bible, God is reported to have said that if they would eat from this tree, they would die. When they ate from the tree, they regretted what they had done, and sought forgiveness:
*“Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If you forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers” [Q7:23]*.
�The sin of Adam stemmed from desire, not from arrogance unlike that of satan, hence Allah guided him to repent and He accepted that from him:
“Then Adam received from his Lord Words. And his Lord pardoned him (accepted his repentance). Verily, He is the One who forgives (accepts repentance), the Most Merciful” [2:37].
� *This became a methodology for Adam and his descendants: that whoever sins & repents sincerely, Allah will accept his repentance.Making mistakes is a part of human nature. Prophet Muhammad (peace of Allah be upon him) said, *“Every son of Adam is bound to commit sins…” (al-Tirmidhi) “…and the best of those who commit sins are those who repent.”* .also [Q39:53]
“And He it is who accepts repentance from His slaves, and forgives sins, and He knows what you do”. (42:25).
�The ultimate forgiveness befitting to the Almighty God (ALLAH, ELLAH, ELOHIM) is an unconditional forgiveness. Forgiveness after a revenge e.g. God killing Himself or His only Son before forgiving is fake, pointless & not a forgiveness but a revenge.
�For more authentic & divine details on the creation & journey of Adam to earth, tap this link https://islamqa.info/en/13286

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So I finally read through this thread from Page 0-80 over 2574 post and comments over period of 3 days out of my busy schedule.

I have always been fascinated about the SUPERNATURAL and ESOTERIC world. Though most of the stories and things discussed here are not new or surprising to me. I believe some of the visitors here must have learnt one thing or two.

Kudos to the Op Dlordsamurai, Luminouz, Sexybbstar, Nma27, 5Dmindset, fabem and all other contributors.

Jesus is the Son of God, sent to die for the sins of the world.

I had always knew that white/church wedding is a sham