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Emusan: Is it not you hmmm or na today we don dey talk am?

I know what need you is a Bible teacher that's all.

U are not talking of a bible teacher u are talking of a brainwash, someone that will tell u his teachings and u believe "follow follow" like zombie without using your brains. God gave u brains a favour from him to think just try to put sentiments out

Mee234: ''Not every one that said to me lord lord.... '' following verse says '' many will say''. If you were not reading with prejudice, you have notice the phrase '' not all'' and '' many''. Not all the people that called him lord will be denied but many because narrow is the way. You probably do not read the whole chapter. Maybe someone (an alfa I suppose )gave you those verses to use. Do yourself a favour, read from chapter 5. Don't leave out anything. The massage is straight forward. You will see Jesus (was) is talking about people who claim to know the way of God but were wrong. People like you and some bad Christians.

Sorry I am not leaving out anything nor am I cherry picking, pls find time and read the thread from the begining, I have explained most arguement u are raising had u read my previous text u will know, I always analyse and back it with the bible, not that I can't with the quran but if I quote from the quran u can say I don't believe in it. Why don't u find out u why Jesus will tell u to go away from him? U see that has been the problem, u don't really follow the teachings of Jesus, u follow the teachings of Paul and the church. Jesus teach and believe in One and Only God(1 in 1) but u believe in Three in One (3 in 1), Jesus said for u to go heaven u have to keep the laws and commandments Matt 5:17-19. These are some of the reasons why he will tell u to go away. Those few that follow Jesus and keep to his teaching will surely reach heaven and most people today that follow the teaching of men (many he will tell go away) will not make to heaven. So u see he has reasons in his second coming to tell u to get away not that I'm cherry picking.
There is one thing u need to reason not that every prophet has to use the same words to say it;-
At the time of Noah, Noah is the way to God the truth and the life
At the time of Abraham, Abraham is the way to God the truth and the life.
At the time of Moses, Moses is the way to God the truth and the life.
At the time of Jesus, Jesus is the way to God the truth and the life.
Mohammad (saw) is the last prophet (comforter, spirit of truth) he is the way to God the truth and the life.
Because people blackmail him and we are trained to hate him is not a reason. Truth will always be the truth whether we see it or not it will not change.

Emusan: This is what we're saying, twisting Bible upside down out of ignorant. Only God will save people.

Ask yourself, is this what the Bible really teach?

Pls u tell us what am I twisting? This is simple basic straight forward language.

Mee234: He will say those words to people like you who claim to know Him yet refuse to honour Him.

Mee234 pls let's be fair and truthful to ourselves.
Let me ask you a question.
Do the muslims call Jesus lord, lord? NO
Do the Jews call Jesus lord, lord? NO
Do the Hindus call Jesus lord, lord? NO
Do the Christians call Jesus lord, lord? YES
So in his second coming when u go and call him lord lord have we not prophesied in your name and do many mighty works, he will tell u go away from me I don't even know u, u people of iniquity. Matt 7:22.

JMAN05: I dont see how your question which portray human reasoning can fit the bible account.

it is not just a story but a historic story of what happened in the past.

U wanted to clearify the errors in the bible.
The bible said that vegetation came before sunlight, how is it possible?

JMAN05: good. but dont you think that following Jesus detates that we do not live like muslims?

If u follow Jesus, you can't help but be a muslim

Emusan: Did I response to the Op or your fallacious statement?



Who started it and who copy each other? By saying all religion do circumcised is a pure lie go and read history my brother.



Judaism is the religion of Old Jews.



Infact I can't stop laughing at you. If God wanted it that way why you mahdino don't leave it as theirs? You barber you hair but trim the beards, what a confuse state.


Another lie, what is the meaning of civilization and when did it start? You need to go back on history man!



I don't think you reason before you type, no offence ooo. If the will of God is to save his prophet, how many prophet of God that didn't taste death?



Likewise He won't have given them chance to arrest Him.



If you need sunday school teacher on that tell me.
There're many way you've tried to prove the death of Jesus wrong but alll in vain.



Well if Trinity is your problem that's for you because all christians believe in only one God. But a powerful God who can manifest Himself in different ways as we seen in the universe because things that we seen were not made from things that do appear.



If Islam is the submition to will of God, what does the Quran says about the will of God?

You said in one post that the "will of God is to obey his commandment and to have success in this life and the life to come" which I have debunked.

Pls talk with reason, i said Jesus kept beards like the muslims cos if God want him to shave he could have tell him or are u saying that there is no barber at the time of Jesus that is why he did not shave?
U keep talking of the will of God did u know all the prophets of God taught salvation @ there own time. Whatever u leave for God to decide for u is his will and all the prophet there has never been a time that they taught that someone will carry your burden, they taught believe in one God and practice righteousness that has remain the will of God. The first time the so called idea of the inherited sin came was Roman myths, pls read history long before christianity. The book of Eziekel 18:20 say the soul that sin he shall die, the father will carry the iniquity of the son nor shall the son carry the iniquity of the father. It is Paul that brought up the Roman ideology that Jesus die for your sin. What a nonsencecical idea that the most loving God was offended billions of years without our knowledge and imagine that the God u call most loving cannot forgive one man but duplicate the sin and castigate everybody but has to shed the blood of someone, u call that loving? That is shylock, blood thirst. Even a dog can forgive and forget when u beat him.
What is wrong with u? Think man. U are not a fool no one teaches that. For u to get salvation keep that laws and commandments.

basilico: Muhammad even led a raid while the pagans of Kaaba were fasting. He became unpopular but once a thief always a thief. We non muslims know that your prophet was fake. I will mention Quran 5:33 which you quote to say that if you kill one person Its like you kill all humanity. The next verse after that says that you should kill those who dont believe the prophet should have his arms and legs but off for corrupting islam. Your lies you muslims are getting exposed every day.

IS TERRORISM A MUSLIM MONOPOLY
TERRORISM IS FIRST TIME USE IN THE 1790S DURING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION THE YEAR 1793 TO 1794 WERE CALLED THE YEAR OF TERROR[color=#990000][/color] MAXIMILIN ROBESPIERVE WAS HEADING THE GOV. AND HE KILLED THOUSAND OF INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS HE ARRESTED OVER 500,000, 40,000 WERE EXECUTED 200,000 WERE STARVED TO DEATH . WHEN U LOOK AT ATTACKS FROM THE 19TH CENTURY U CAN HARDLY FIND ANY ATTACK DONE BY THE MUSLIMS

IN 1881 TSAR ALEXANDER II OF RUSSIA WAS ASSASINATED IN A BOMB BLAST KILLING 21 INNOCENT PEOPLE. THE ATTACK WAS CARRIED OUT BY IGNANCY NOT A MUSLIM

IN 1886 A BOMD BLAST TOOK PLACE IN HAYMARKET SQ IN CHICAGO DURING A LABOUR RALLY 12 INNOCENT KILLED DONE BY 8 ANARCHISTS ALL OF THEM WERE NOT MUSLIMS

5TH SEP 1901 THE THEN US PRESIDENT WILLIAM MCKINLEY WAS ASSASINATED BY A MAN NAMED LEON CZOLGOSZ

1ST OCTOBER 1910 THERE WAS A BOMB BLAST IN LOS ANGELS TIMES NEWSPAPEER BUILDING KILLING 21 INNOCENT PEOPLE DONE BY 2 CHRISTIANS NAMED JAMES AND JOSEPH NOT MUSLIMS

28 JUNE 1914 ARCHDUKE OF AUTRIA AND HIS WIFE WERE ASSASINATED BY MEMBERS OF THE YOUNG BOSNIA GROUP THEY WERE SERBS NOT MUSLIMS

16TH APRIL 1925 A BOMB BLAST IN ST NEDELYA CHURCH IN SOFIA THE CAPITAL OF BULGARIA MORE THAN 150 KILLED AND 500 INJURED BY BULGARIAN COMMUNIST PARTY NOT MUSLIMS

9TH OCTOBER 1934 KING ALEXANDER OF YUGOSLAVIA WAS ASSASINATED BY VLADA GEORGIEFF NON MUSLIM

1ST MAY 1951 THE FIRST US PLANE HIJACKED BY RAMEREZ ORTIZ NON MUSLIM

28TH AUGUST 1968 THE US AMBASSADOR TO GUATEMELA WAS ASSASINATED BY A NON MUSLIM

30TH JULY 1969 USS AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN KNIFED BY A JAPANESE NON MUSLIM

3RD SEPTEMBER 1969 US AMBASSADOR TO BRAZIL WAS KIDNAPPED BY A NON MUSLIM

19TH APRIL 1995 BOMBING OF THE FEDERAL BUILDING IN OKLAHOMA CITY KILLED 160 INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS BY 2 CHRISTIANS TIMOTHY AND TERRY
DO U KNOW THAT FROM 1941 TO 1948 AFTER THE WORLD WAR IN A SPAN OF 8 YRS 259 TERRORIST ATTACKS WERE CONDUCTED BY JEWISH TERRORIST GROUP WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THE 22ND JULY 1945 BOMBING OF KING DAVID HOTEL HEADED BY MENACHEM BEGIN KILLED 91 INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS AND THIS SAME MAN MENACHEM BEGIN LATER BECAME THE PRIME MINISTER OF ISREAL AND LATER GOT AWARD FOR NOBEL PRIZE FOR PEACE. HOW COULD THE WORLD KEEP SILIENCE TO SUCH ATROCITIES HMMMM

HITLER ALONE KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS WHO WAS HE, A CHRISTIAN NOT A MUSLIM

IN GERMANY FROM 1968 TO 1992 BAADER MEINHOFF GANG KILLED SEVERAL INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS THEY WERE ALL NOT MUSLIMS

IN ITALY THE RED BRIGADE HAVE KILLED SEVERAL INNOCENT PEOPLE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR KIDNAPPING AND KILLING OF THE PRIME MINISTER OF ITALLY ALDO MORO

THE JAPANESE RED ARMY ON THE 20TH MARCH 1995 ALIM SHINRIKYO USED NEON GAS IN THE TOKYO SUBWAY KILLED 7 AND INJURED 5700 INNOCENT POEPLE THEY WERE BUDDHIST NOT MUSLIMS

U.K FOR ABOUT 100 YEARS NOW THE IRA IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY ARE CONDUCTING TERRORIST ATTACKS WHICH IN
1972 THREE BOMBS BLASTR KILLING 27 PEOPLE THEY ARE CATHOLICS NOT MUSLIMS,
IN 1974 TWO BOMBS BLAST IN GULFORD PUB KILLED 5 AND INJURED 44 THE SECOND BLAST IN BIRMINGHAM PUB KILLED 21 AND INJURED 182

JUST MENTIONING A FEW

1996 A BOMB BLAST IN MANCHESTER SHOPPING CENTER WERE ABOUT 206 INJURED

IN 1998 1ST AUGUST THE IRA PLANTED A CAR BOMB WHICH KILLED 35

15TH AUGUST 1998 OMAGH BOMB BLAST KILLED 29 OVER 330 INJURED

4TH MARCH 2001 BBC WAS BOMBED ALL BY IRA NOT MUSLIMS

IN SPAIN AND FRANCE THE ETA CONDUCTED 36 ATTACKS

IN AFRICA THERE ARE SO MANY BUT ONE OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS IS THE LORD SALVATION ARMY A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST ORGANISATION IN UGANDA THEY BRIAN WASH YOUNG CHILDREN TO COMMIT TERRIRIST ATTACKS NOT MUSLIMS

IN SRI LANKA THE MOST NOTORIOYUS ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD EXPERT IN SUICIDE BOMBING THEY ARE HINDU NOT MUSLIMS

MAOISTS IN NEPAKL IN 7YRS CARRIED 99 ATTACKS NOT MUSLIMS

ATTF AND NLFF ARE CHRISTIAN TERRORIST GORUP IN NORTH EAST INDIA

2ND OCT 2004 44 HINDUS KILLED BY THEM NOT MUSLIMS

ULFA IN A SPAN OF 16yrs FROM 1990-2006 HAS CARRIED OUT 749 ATTACKS THEY ARE NON MUSLIMS.

JOESEPH STALLIN (KNOW AS UNCLE JOE) KILLED 20 MILLION. HUMAN BEIGN INCLUDING 14.5 MILLION WERE STARVED TO DEATH HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM

WHEN YOU GO TO CHINA MAO TSE TSUNG HAS KILLED OVER 15 MILLION HUMAN BEIGNS HE WAS A NON MUSLIM

BENITO MUSSOLINI OF ITALY KILLED 400,000 HUMAN BEINGS HE WAS A NON MUSLIM

ASHOKA IN ONE BATTLE ALONE OF KALINGA KILLED MORE THAN 100,000 PEOPLE HE WAS A HINDU NOT A MUSLIM

WE KNOW WE HAVE OUR BLACK SHEEP LIKE SADDAM HUSSAIN HISTORY TELLS US THAT HE KILLED A FEW 100 THOUSAND PEOPLE BUT THE EMBARGO PUT BY GEORGE BUSH AND U.S ALONE KILLED MORE THAN 500,000 IRAQI CHILDREN (HALF A MILLION) INNOCENT CHILDREN BY GEORGE BUSH A CHRISTIAN NOT A MUSLIM

WHEN WE ANALYSE WE CAN SURELY SAY WITHOUT ANY DOUBT THAT TERRORISM IS NOT A MUSLIM MONOPOLY, NOT ONLY THAT. IS NOT A MUSLIM MONOPOLY IT IS NOT EVEN ENCOURAGE IN ISLAM.

QURAN 5:32 SAYS IF ANYONE KILLS ANY HUMAN BEIGN WOULD BE AS IF HE HAD KILLED ALL MANKIND, AND IF ANYONE SAVE ANY HUMAN BEIGN IS AS IF HE HAS SAVED THE LIFE OF ALL HUMANITY.
ISLAM CONDEMS ALL FORMS OF TERRORISM

Emusan: You're still spreading this your false teaching.



Were you there? See how Jesus said we should pray Matt 6:9 why don't you pray in that way but chose only His style of praying?



Is it Muslims that start circumcision or Jews?



This is to show you how brainwash you are, all ancients people kept their beards and not even beards including their hairs I will take you serious if you leave your hair uncut together with your beards. Beside you kept your beards as ancient style not like Jesus...hmmmm



But you claim He didn't; when you said He prayed to God so that He won't die and God send Him angels and delivered Him (meaning Jesus's will exceeded God's will). If you now agree He submited to the will of God, but the will of God is for Jesus to sheld His blood(died). So you agree Jesus died now?



Who else claim multiple gods?



Now do you believe in Jesus?



What is the meaning Muslim?
When Jesus was born and died 600years before Islam..lol

Keep deluding yourself.

I have told you to stop chasing the shadow of religion and seek for salvation of your soul which have been concealed only in Jesus blood for everyone to be reconcile to God Almighty because there is NO other NAME given to man under the sun to be saved than the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

Shalom!

People can say what they want to say, saying islam is fake is just your wishful thinking.
Whether the Jew started circumcision or not, I am just trying to tell u that all religion that came from God practice it.
Who told u that the Jew is the name of Moses religion?
U are talking about ancient people keep beards, that is how God wanted them to dress it. Do u think that at the time of Jesus there was no barber?
I told Jesus submit his will to God, the will of God is to save his prophet, if God did not want to save Jesus he would not have given him the chance to pray to save him. I thought u said he will come and willing die without defence, why did he prepare self defence and told his diciples to come with sword and guard him?
Jesus belives in only one God , but know u say 3 in 1. U are lying. When u say the son u have a mental picture of a handsome man like Mel Gibson that acted the role of Jesus in the film passion of christ, when u say in the name of the father u have a mental picture of someone like santa clause giant in heaven and when u say the holy ghost u have a mental picture of some bird a dove and there is no way u can ever see these picture as one, so u have 3 mental distinct picture of 3 personalities.
What I understand is that u did not know the meaning of a muslim. The meaning of a muslim in arabic is someone who submits his will to God, so count them Noah, Abraham, David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad all of them we respect and revere them cos they all practice the same religion of One God and we are sent (messenger) by one true God.

khattab02: Bismillahi rahmanir raheem.wassalatu wa salamu ala rasulullahi ajma'iin.In the Name of Allah most beneficient, most merciful,blessings and salutation upon the last and final messenger Muhammad salallahu alihi wa salam. Truth2012 when u say somtin like that,we say: ''Qul haatuu burhaanakum 'in-kuntum saadiqiin'' ''bring your proof if ye are truthful''.

Ameen

Emusan: What was your question sir?

Read above my last post u attend to answer

udatso: i also noticed that you do not know the difference between standardisation of the quran and compilation of the quran..standardisation was done by usman (ra) while compilation by abubakar (ra)

There is only one God and Mohammad (saw) is his messenger.

truthman2012: None of your quotations is referring to Muhammad. He is not in the Bible. You lack proper understanding of the Book.

What is your comment on the above pagan origin of islam?

Hear this again: Zamzam well in Kaaba was dug by Abdu Mutaleb, Muhammad's grandfather who was an adherent of Satan under Jinn-devil religion. He dedicated it to idols in the pre-islamic period. The same well is used by muslims today as holy water. Can you see that islam is a continuation of idol worship re-defined? May God in His mercy open your spiritual eyes.

Bros, I said u should get the Hebrew bible u will see the name of Mohammad been mentioned by name. Why don't u go and check it, are u scared?
If u have left the bible without translating his name to english u could have see it there, but because u want to cover it. Who gave u the right to translate people's name?
U see all u are saying is ur wish ful thinking. Everybody knows that the Quran is strongly agaisnt idol worship. So u can say what u like to ur christian congregation.

basilico: Muhammad even led a raid while the pagans of Kaaba were fasting. He became unpopular but once a thief always a thief. We non muslims know that your prophet was fake. I will mention Quran 5:33 which you quote to say that if you kill one person Its like you kill all humanity. The next verse after that says that you should kill those who dont believe the prophet should have his arms and legs but off for corrupting islam. Your lies you muslims are getting exposed every day.

Hey boy, u don't know what u are talking about. Don't u know that Jesus wash his hands head and feet just like a muslim, he fell on his face to pray to God just like a muslim, he was circumsied just like a muslim, he keep beards just like a muslim, he submit his will to God just like a muslim, he said there is only one God just like a muslim and he said for u to get salvation just believe that there is only one God and him the messenger of God (John 17:3), JESUS IS A MUSLIM.

Emusan: Which truth? When Jesus said He is the way, The TRUTH, and the life. I can't just stop laughing.....

The teaching you're following never promise such thing as above true or false?



So far now Man that has ever passed through the surface








of this earth and make such statement with certainty, which I've confirmed....well anybody's teaching is false!!! Beside I don't practice religion Jesus Christ is never a religious person.


I'm only try to let you see the light I'm not promoting Christ or religion, so is you choice afterall we shall all stand before Christ on judgement day parent won't stand for their children, brother won't stand for brothers e.t.c



You're right but not what the Bible says that you're preaching.



You and your brethens have been twisting the word of God not what It really means.



Please what name did I call you?
I argue because you misinterprete the Bible to suit yourself and your believe.



Well thanks for that but how I wish you could reason who the statement above is referring to?




How can you worship the Father?

This is my point of replying your post since all this while because it's unclear point you need Jesus for. The will of God is not to attain success if that's your burden. God's will is for us to be free from death and have a perfect life, where there'll be no more sorrow, sickness, disaster(which it calls RECONCILLATION--God reconciles us to Himself through is only begotten Son Jesus "there's no other names given to man under the sun to save than Jesus' name)...this is where SALVATION play the vital role. The question I will ask you now is, how can someone obtain salvation?


Yea, that's the major reason you shouldn't believe another teaching except Jesus' teaching because He came from God, He didn't receive message from angel or anybody.



He also said those that believe in Him will not pearch but have everlasting LIFE. Which I'm pleading you to seak and forget religion issue.



No read Bible very well.


The letters killeth but the spirit lives forever...so Jesus has abolished the laws..only if you can ask how?



No salvation can be obatined through commandent.




He didn't read Bible very well.



Yea, you should've believe Him for this statement.



Well if you think I am no problem but I didn't.



Hmmmm........Thou shall not Judge......


Shalom!

Emusan, you have not answered, u are cutting my talk and delibrately fumbling around. u see what ever I tell u or explain to u, its only when u reason with good heart and seek for the truth. U have already rule out Islam and u are made to understand that it is a wrong religion, in that kind of situation u can never get it right. Well all that I have been preaching to u is not from the quran but from what u believe the bible reaching an extent that I analyse what Jesus says imphasizing on it, but still u argue and call me names, u are a pratical testimony to what Jesus said "Seeing they see not hearing they hear not neither do they understand" people believe in what they want to believe. U said u asked me thy will of God? The will of the father is to worship him so we can all attain success in this life and next. Do u know Jesus said I speak not my own will but the will of the father that sent me, so definately when he said verily, verily i said unto u except u righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the u can by no means enter the kingdom of God. That is the will of God and salvation, now how can u be better than the Jew if u don't keep the laws and commandments? If keeping the commandments is not salvation will Jesus emphasize on keeping it, he said not even a jot should be left out (not even a word should be left out) but know u have thrown away the whole commandments. Are u not wicked for throwing away what Jesus said u should keep? Iniquity indeed u are.

I testify that there is only one God amd Mohammad is the messenger of God

Emusan: Waoooo Mahdino is reason well now.



It's not new the way you & your brethens have been twisting the Word of God, but see the detail of where you quote: Matt 7:20-24 "20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his houseupon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mahdino you're hearing the word of Yeshua but what are you doing about it? I have asked you in one thread but you couldn't give a specific answer, let me ask you again; what is the will of God?



See pure lies, it's because their works is full of iniquity.



God will surely have mercy on you, see what the verse you mention above is talking about: Matt 5:17 "17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

how does the above relate to salvation? Hmmmm

Emusan, u see what ever I tell u or explain to u, its only when u reason with good heart and seek for the truth. U have already rule out Islam and u are made to understand that it is a wrong religion, in that kind of situation u can never get it right. Well all that I have been preaching to u is not from the quran but from what u believe the bible reaching an extent that I analyse what Jesus says imphasizing on it, but still u argue and call me names, u are a pratical testimony to what Jesus said "Seeing they see not hearing they hear not neither do they understand" people believe in what they want to believe. U said u asked me thy will of God? The will of the father is to worship him so we can all attain success in this life and next. Do u know Jesus said I speak not my own will but the will of the father that sent me, so definately when he said verily, verily i said unto u except u righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the u can by no means enter the kingdom of God. That is the will of God and salvation, now how can u be better than the Jew if u don't keep the laws and commandments? If keeping the commandments is not salvation will Jesus emphasize on keeping it, he said not even a jot should be left out (not even a word should be left out) but know u have thrown away the whole commandments. Are u not wicked for throwing away what Jesus said u should keep? Iniquity indeed u are.

Mee234: It is a lesser issue for Muslims yet they bomb each other when they run out of '' enemies of Allah''. Even lesser when each sect reciting the same'' clear koran'' will disagree over issues like temporary marriage and mode of prayer. A disagreement that often results to killing with each believing they are doing service to Allah.
On a serious note, are you guys still expecting prophet isa to come and correct some things?

Thank God that u know how some people can go agaisnt there religious books, so pls let's not judge Islam by the way some people behave cos as long as we have bad muslims we have bad christians.
On a serious note we are not expecting prophet Isa (as) to come and correct or add anything, he is coming to clear himself about the lies been said on him. If u read in the bible Matt: 7:22, when he come in his second coming the christians will go to him saying lord, lord, we have prophesied in ur name and do many mighty works (e.g built schools, hospitals e.t.c) and Jesus will tell them u useless people go away from here I don't even know u. Ask youselves why will he say that to u? Its because u have left his teachings, he said if u want salvation do the laws and the commandments (Matt: 5:17) but someone has come to divert u from the straight path, who is the master?

truthman2012: @ OP

God had no covenant of prophethood with Ishmael, His covenant was with Isaac. That was why all prophets came through the lineage of Isaac including Jesus. So when the bible talks about brethren [/b]it is talking of children from Isaac lineage.

Muhammad was not a prophet of God but of allah, an arabian deity being worshiped before his birth. Even going by islamic creed - "lailah ilalah Muhammadu rosulilah". There is no god save allah and Muhammad is his prophet. [b]The only prophet allah had was Muhammad, other prophets belonged to the God of Israel.

For your information, Jesus is the last prophet:
"Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed HIS SEAL OF APPROVAL." John 6:27

From the bible reference, you can see Jesus is the [b]seal [/b]of God's prophet. Muhammad is not one at all.

Pls get the hebrew bible and u will see MOHAMMAD (saw) mentioned by name in the songs of Solomon 5:16.
Your christian brothers delibrately translated the name of the noble prophet Mohammad (saw) so u cannot know.
Read al quran the last testament with open mind.

fijiano202: Firstly it will be sad to see u strap urself with Bomb due to ur stupiid belief ,Secondly i have some questions for you 1 where is it written that Jesus was called God. 2 what was muhammed doing for the first 40yrs of his life. 3 do u know Isreal divided into 12 tribes in 715 B.C which hosea was the prophet then AND Last King name was HOSHEA so brethen can mean one of the tribes of isreal or the children from isreal 4 do you know the jordan which u call a muslim country his not the Old biblical Jordan cos king nebuchadnezzar invaded it in 586 B.C,the last king name was ZEDEKIAH. 5 Do You Know the years and Gap between Ishmeal and Jesus Christ. 6 Do u know what is Written in John 14vs6. 7 do you think God needs anyone to fight is battle for him.theres no difference between muhammed at adeboye if truely muhammed was called by God,cos the are both servant of God,Pls dont post rubbish without confirming ur story and make sure you give your Life to Jesus Christ

Do u know that Jesus was 30 yrs when he start to preach, what was he doing for 30 yrs?

abubello: Im interested in the proposed debate as well

Let's work on the arrangement, format and venue.
Pls call 07036065077

[quote author=Emusan]Imagine, Mahdino and co always form as if Islam is one.

Follow God's word, if I may ask is it God's word or voice of angel?

Now you're claiming that people say shouldn't be accepted, isn't it in Quran that you should fight for Allah?



This is the major point that Muslims lack, who says Holyspirit can not be verified? Why can't you give it a try?


Our God is one! Don't you know that? I know because you're confuse with the issue of Trinity you think some christians claim three Gods.
Well that's your unverified issue, because even coming together of Husband and wife to become one is a mystery for you. Read REVELATION 5 (I won't quote the verse) you will see where SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD was written. Imagine seven spirits(plural) of God(singular).

Keep promoting religion, my dear seek for salvation. No religions in heaven



Pls talk sense into my head, u are just beating around the bush

Mee234: My question was what do you do with some of the things you are berating Christians for that you have in islam? Abi you want to deny that there are no sect with different teaching? If the Koran is practical how come those sect with different practice?

That is why I said islam is pratical. If the Quran said A and any other person or sect said Z you know that it is A that you follow cos it is God's word and cannot be change but not like the christian where everybody claims to have the spirit which cannot be verified, even if someone has high fever and he had bad dreams he can claim that is the spirit. What is the spirit doing to people that they can't understand simple straight forward language?
I also told u that with all the sect why is it that all the muslims in every corner on earth belives in There is only one God and Mohammad (saw) is his messenger. That infact is a clear unity of belief. On lesser issues no two men can have the same mind.

igbeke: ... And who.told u ur mohammed or allah's laws were bn refered to here?
btw, dont u think its dellusional to falsefully insert ur ka'abba in d Holy Bible in order to attract attention and rellevance?
get it straight, Jesus Christ and mohammed are two parrallel entitites wit no point of intersection. u want a transversal? its not working.

Jesus said in the gospel of John that when HE the spirit of truth comes HE will guide u into all truth that HE will not speak of HIMself ... Who is Jesus talking about? That HE is Mohammad (saw)

Mee234: In Nigeria too we many different sect of Islam with different teaching. Some preach allmajir while some( few though) condemn it. Do we say Muslims are confused? Or do we throw away the Koran because Muhammad have different revelations about christ dead and resurrection. One being Allah will cause him to die and raise him up the other being Allah deceiving people in thinking they kill the Son of Mary. Who do we blame ? The angel giving Muhammad revelations?

In islam it is very pratical, what God says is in the Quran and is final nobody tries to revise it or wait for another spirit, prophet or angel. The last testament have been given to the last prophet and nobody is coming as a prophet again and the Quran cannot be changed till dooms day. So whatever is in the quran is the guidance, so anybody that seeks any other thing is at loss. In islam everyone beliefs in One God and Mohammad (saw) as his messenger. The thing is Allah has never change his promise or confuse any nation, just because some people change their books to suit their claim does not mean God confused them. Jesus christ has said it that he will not die in Matt 12: 38-40. It was later on that the church introduce the roman myths of someone dying for the sin of the world.

Emusan: Lol...Shalom (Greek-peace) ...alekum(arabic-unto you)....Well Jesus said peace be unto you but not in arabic way....'Alafia fun oo(yoruba version)'...unto you is not alekum in greek.

Hmm shalom is hebrew





As if Mahdino was there! Why can't you pray the way He taught us to pray? Matt 6:9


Is it the only person? All ancient people did so i.e Abraham, Moses, Noah, all his Desciples, Mohammad e.t.c so you kept your beards like ancient people not like Jesus. Huhmm



Who is anti-christ?



Love and glorify hmmm in what way you people do these?



They were scared because they don't believe He would resurrect from dead because He is the who raised people from dead.



How did He prove Himself to them?



Pure lies, not all at all, they were first scattered when He was arrested but follow Him at behind...read Bible very well.


I will still have time to answer both unanswer question and the answered one with Biblical support.

This day I'm begin to relax on promoting Christianity on this forum simply because tha's not the instruction of our Lord Jesus. Jesus said go ye into the world and preached the good news (salvation).

These facts about Jesus can not be altered by anybody but can only be accepted or disaccepted by anybody

His pre-birth & death prophesies,
His miraculous Birth,
His ministration of Salvations,
His various working of miracles,
His denials by Judas,
His crucifition,
His resurrection,
His ascension into heaven,
And His second coming.

All these are through about Him but can be rejected by anybody.

His blood has been sheld for us to make us clean because "without shelding of blood there's no remission" Heb 9.

Jesus loves you before you love Him.

Pls try and study about the spirit of truth Mohammad (saw)

Emusan: Pretending as if he doesn't know the guy.

Bros pls have u seen my post?

Emusan: Dear Mahdino, may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.



Ok Sir,



It's too odd of you to say this, have you ever see me quote people's word outside the Bible? I always give you my own interpretation.



Simply because they didn't believe it can happen.



To strenghten their believe Jesus also shows them the point of the NAILS holes at His legs and hands for real comfermento.



He only said if Father will wish and let the cup pass over Him: Nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt. and it's the will of the Father that prevaileth.




I will attend to this when I get home, show me where God send angels to him?

Bros I don't know why you guys don't want to follow Jesus. Why won't u greet me the way Jesus did? When he came to the upper he said shalom alekum meaning peace be unto u. Why do u have to say what people are saying (in the name of your lord) did Jesus taught u that? That is all we are saying the way he greet, the way he wash his hands, face and feet, the way he fall on his face to pray to God, the way he kept his beards, the way he said u should keep the commandments, e.t.c that's all we are saying. We are not the anti christ, we love Jesus, we respect him and we glorify him.
Going back to the subject, when Jesus entered the upper room they were scared and u said is because they did not believe it can happen. WRONG. It is because they taught he was a spirit (ressurected body) from the dead, so he had to prove to them that he is the same person ALIVE not dead. Cos all of his diciples where not eye witness of the scene,they heard from hear say (rumour) that he was dead.

Emusan: Pretending as if he doesn't know the guy.

@ Emusan bro peace be upon u. Going back to the subject, I want u to know that apart from the sign of Jonah there are many other facts and testimonies in the bible that Jesus did not die if only you will come out of that box the church has been preaching and see deep beyond what u are programme to believe.
Why were the diciples terified (afraid) when Jesus came to the upper room?
Why did Jesus had to prove himself to them that he was the same fellow ALIVE not a spirit or resurrected body?
Why did Jesus pray to the father that he should not let him die and why did the father answered his prayers sent angels to guarranty him and prophesied his answered prayers in Hebrew 5:7?

Pygru: Maclatunji is here to deal with you guys

Who is Maclatunji?

F00028: easy there! you seem to be losing it.


if you still dont get it I can't help you.


you are clearly out of your depth.

and your wild accusations only mask your deficiencies in your imagination.
but hey, if it makes you feel better...



-Carl Sagan, Parade magazine, April 22, 1990. And the book Billions & Billions: Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millennium, Ballantine Books, New York:

“It [the embryo] sucks blood from capillaries. It bathes itself in maternal blood, from which it extracts oxygen and nutrients. It establishes itself as a kind of parasite on the walls of the
uterus…

“By the third week, around the time of the first missed menstrual period, the forming embryo is about 2 millimeters long and is
developing various body parts. Only at this stage does it begin to be dependent on a rudimentary placenta. It looks a little like a
segmented worm.”




pix1: A scanning electron microscope of the embryo (dorsal view). About 25 days.
http://php.med.unsw.edu.au

pix2: Left, shows an embryo of about 22 days
Right, A leech’s (rear) sucker
http://static.scanpix.se/
lennart_nilsson_video/video22.html
http://www.sciencephoto.com/
media/366747/enlarge

F008 may God reward u

Emusan: Did I preach denomination(churches) to you?
I preach Christ!

I have also shown you where the Bible said "the foundation has been laid......anybody can build on top.....but everyone who builds on top should take heed how he/she built it because every man's work will be tested by fire...." what I'm telling you is personal encounter with the Holyspirit not on what people say. Majority interpret the word of God today out of their own selfish interest.

Shalom!

That's what I am saying everybody claims to have the holyspirit personaly, u too claim to have it personaly and the direction differs.
Pls brother what we have to do is to use our God given intelligence and reason. It doesn't matter whether a billion people have been victims.

Emusan: I do but do also read Bible with the help of HolyGhost?

Brother, I have explain about the holyghost saga.
U see in Nigeria we have over 2000 different churches and denomination. All of these churches claim to have the holyghost and they are going in different direction. One say with sprinkle of water u are baptise one say no u have to be deepen, one say the name of God is Jehova one say no, one say Jesus is God himself, one say no he is unique son and so and so and so and they all claim to have the holyghost still going in different ways. So pls don't claim or blame the holyghost when u see facts that does not suit u.