₦airaland Forum

Bar1941:
Very soon, we will start a protest tagged:

#Bring the original Nnamdi Kanu#

Bluntemperor:
But,what about Mrs Abacha?
Have they Shown You How Much Abacha Looted Out of Nigeria,That Foreign Government are Still Bringing Back the Looted Money Till Date?
So,Abacha and his Family as footsoldiers- of looting Machines- Are Guilty of Corruption in Nigeria!
•Something de Wrong With Our Southerners- for they love gaulibility - Cho,Cho,Cho!
It Seems You Are so Ignorant Of Facts on Corruption in Nigeria - for you to type this Rubbish In Red!
Na Wa O!

Raph82:
but he made the headline as the biggest looter in the history of Nigeria.

truthera:
Nnamdi Kanu was charged for terrorism and not about what he saod regarding Buhari. Nigeria's government has failed to produce a single witness to testify how Kanu was directly linked to any killings or violence in the south east.

LMAO

Now, all of a sudden you know that a witness is needed to make outlandish claims ??

DMerciful:
You have no point!

truthera:
Peaceful protest is not illegal. Nigeria government's violent campaign against IPOB brought about tragic consequencies, destruction of lives and properties. You keep parroting the same false narrative on every thread about Nnamdi Kanu.

truthera:
My answer to your question is irrelevant because I don't have an ambition to be the president of Nigeria. When you decide to become a public figure or occupy a public office like governor or vying to become a president of a country then you should be able to develop the thick skin required for the office. People will call you unprintable names and say all kinds of things about you. Peter Obi can not use that as an excuse not to support the movement to release Nnamdi Kanu if he truly believes in what he preaches regarding justice, competent principled leadership and accountability.

LMAO

truthera:
I understand that Kanu had in the past spoken negatively about Peter Obi sleeping with other men. If this is another reason behind his silence over the injustice towards Nnamdi Kanu, then it shows that he is too petty to be Nigeria's president. It shows that his strong principled stance against injustice is a farce.

3Ceagle:
The questions I asked are still not answered. Discussion like this help view event from different angles and objectively find the missing links and project solutions. I see that you are fixated only on the aftermath and on MNK, peace of the grave yard. I yield the floor.

DomPerignon:
You dey try.

Trying to make sense and reason with these deranged cannibals is futile.

Broveens42:
If he didn't insinuate peaceful protesters shouldn't defend themselves, it won't stop the loss of lives and properties by sponsored thugs. Infact, it would make it worse.

So, his insinuation did not cause damage, but failure of the police to protect lives and properties as they watched by the sidelines.

The more you push, the more you indict your government.

Kewekubosineh:
You have grudge against KANU. So, your submission can't be taken seriously.

We don't have Two laws in the country. So, what applies to North should apply to South

KANU was acquitted by a competent Court, Federal High Court Abuja,about two years ago but still being held.

So,it pricks your conscience fine that someone released by the Court still being held in the custody?

What goes round comes around. So, be very careful!

Christistruth03:
It cannot be thrown out of Court because Ipobs numerous victims meed Justice for the Kpaings on Kanu's orders

truthera:
If Nigeria was not lawless then Kanu's case would've been thrown out by the court.

3Ceagle:
You did not answer my question. Were they initially peaceful? What led to change of method, was it killing of innocent protesters, hunting down of their perceived members? In one pathetic case, the police went to an open ground where they were having their regular meeting, shot and killed many who had only flags in their hands. What was their offence? Was it that they killed people or that they demanded a country? Has government ever been held responsible for anything in this country?
The Governors are self serving and they know that majority of the people in SE and especially the youth align with the demands of the group. The Governors had a meeting with him in August 2017 with a follow-up to come. Did the arrogant Governors ever disclose the groups demand and what transpired in the meeting. Simply because those Governors lack capacity to manage crises. Should the FG also follow the Governors sheepishly. The truth is that the Nigeria state hate dissenting voices. The only president, who had brains to solve a national problem was President Umaru Yar'Adua. He found a way to bring peace in the Niger Delta.

On the statistics of 5% to 95%, who did the poll? Do you think the FG will sincerely allow for referendum especially when there have been serious push to not put referendum in the constitution.

MNK abused everyone including his own tribesmen, which I think was overboard.

The insecurity in the SE is multidimensional, all sort of criminals, state and non-state actors took advantage of the situation, especially with Simon Ekpa group. The calm there today is because, MNK IPOB washed their hands off from the continued sit at home order and the charging of Ekpa to court by Finland government.

The Nigerian state should better take the issue of Equity, Fairness and Justice for all very serious otherwise we'll continue to have dissenting voices.

truthera:
Section 39 subsection 1 states....

"Every person shall be entitled to freedom of expression, including freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart ideas and information without interference"
Take note of this "to receive and impart ideas and information without interference" you can not twist the law when it does not favour you. The court has no power to restrict/limit peaceful protests as doing so means interfering on right of the people to freedom of expression. Malali, you always deceitfully omit facts in your posts about Kanu. You always push half truths and absolve the government of any blame that's why I find your words empty. Kanu's agitation was never violent until the government attacked IPOB members through it's military offensive campaigns in the south east.
You said "The Abuja court didn’t “ban” protests; it limited them around high-risk zones like Aso Rock and the National Assembly, a standard global security practice, not tyranny." Nigerians have the right to protest peacefully in public places such as Unity Fountain, Aso Rock and National Assembly, the court should've mandated the police to provide security for the protesters and not to infringe on protesters rights by restricting them. I know that you will not say all you are saying if the protest was to demand for Kanu to be sentenced to death because you are not different from other malicious hateful people here whose only mission is to ensure that Nnamdi Kanu never gets justice but your plan will fail.

Broveens42:
Let me school you Mr lecturer.
You can make statements to keep people on the alert and that doesn't mean you were responsible for any action afterwards.

You can threaten someone out of anger and and something unfortunate happens to the person you threatened (not connected to you whatsoever), preliminary investigation could warrant your arrest, but doesn't mean you were responsible and could be proven in a competent court.

I'm sure you were referring to the end sars saga in Lagos influenced by your 'cherry picking' of words; kanu did not order people to burn lives and properties, he only insinuated people should defend themselves from sponsored thugs, whose modus operandi is cause confusion during any peaceful protest.
It is the duty of the police to protect peaceful protesters, but we all saw in the videos and from subsequent protests, how the police watch these thugs destroy properties.

Assuming those thugs were Kanu's men, are you saying they are now working for the Nigerian police?

The more you push your misconception about kanu, the more you indict the state actors

biremi:
I don't like it when people shift the goal post in any discussion I am involved
Any person that indulge in goal post shifting during a discussion demonstrates his lack of capacity for rational thinking
I don't indulge such people
Have a nice day

jmoore:
I never knew politicians come to nairaland to make comments.


What the op described is a general problem, not peculiar to southeast.

Broveens42:
Take up arms to do what ? A lot of prominent politicians and religious leaders have also said people should take up arms and defend themselves, because it's a constitutional right to life.
Kanu is only kept perpetually in detention because he is against the British project

3Ceagle:
First you should know that Lagos/SW and SE is not the same. That we are lumped together as one country does not mean we have one common goal. Nigeria as a country does not have a goal. You did not condemn the FG that killed many peaceful protester in the early days of the movement. You did not condemn Buhari for his insensitivity in ordering the killing of innocent civilians in the SE for just believing in the movement. You did not condemn Buhari for sending soldiers to kill him in his home which they eventually killed many people in his house. Those lives don't matter right?
When did the violent activities start, was it before or after the extra judicial killings of peaceful protesters? I have reservations in some of the later activities of the group but how do you excuse the FG for their high handedness. The state has power to exterminate right? Do know that human right organisations condemned and documented the various killing by the state against this people. Buhari designated them terrorist organisation but adamantly refused to do the same to those wielding AK47 in bushes, killing and raping women in their farms and displacing villages. So where is the justice in Nigeria?
Finally, was ANC a terrorist organisation? Why were they designated a terrorist organisation by SA, UK, USA and others? Are they still terrorist organisation today?
All hostilities ended on a negotiation table isn't it, why can't FG do the same for all the nationalities that make up the country. All lives matters.
Let view things from all sides.

3Ceagle:
You probably don't know South-east. You swallow everything said on social media hook, line and sinker. First, people don't sell their land just to please you or look good. There must be a need. Secondly, there are many hausa/yoruba who own properties and do businesses over there, especially the areas you have them as a community. If they are maligned how come they have flourishing leadership in the various states.