₦airaland Forum

bigfish3k:
complicated! that's why u shouldn't support it. happy u agreed that its complicated. nature didn't impose the complications on us, we did ourselves, how can a country give itself a complicated fomular and expect to grow in tandem with the world.
so we chose more complicated formular instead of easier ones and expect to grow.

its the future of my children am fighting for. the cheating is too much
the youths should educate themselves and fight against injustices no matter the tribe instead of spewing hatred against each other if we really love the country as we claim

It is complicated as long as you and I can't satisfactorily understand it.

truth4u:
Mr man, we said, go your separate way with your 70% landmass and 55% population... We do not need it... It is not by force to be together... Go with those who accept to go with you... And let us go with those who accept to go with us... What is all these wahalas

See SE logic. You didn't tell me that when you were having it so nice during GEJ time. You'll have to wail to eternity for the loss you're still lamenting.
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Shift my friend. Do I look like a descendant of Lugard to you.

DabuIIIT:
have u slaughtered ur 404 for sallah?

Wether Obj, GEJ or Buhari, life is always good. Marginalization is just a word.

I remember one book name. di author call am "Fools Rush In."

How can we know you mean what you said?

sarrki:
Am a core pmb fan

I don't need we need this comparison right now

It's not a justification or an endorsement but to see where those shouting stood when they held sway.

CROWNWEALTH019:
Shut up there

Just as you politicized boko haram

I pray you don't takeover from Kunu and FFK.

DabuIIIT:
chaaattap dia!
Wheres the granpa on here? Ahhh,of cos,hes definitely on one Ipob/kanu/massob related thread foaming in the mouth,vomitting and shouting Ipob this,Kanu that...

..and of cos,zombieTamer wud be kicking his arsse there

Jonathanians have lost it. The least one can do in a sad situation is to sympathize, but here they are ...

krendo:
That's a pure lie!

List Jonathan's appointment and what you will see is balance!

The problem with Nigeria is Northerners are not used to balance, when there is equal opportunity across all zones, that for the Northerners is marginalisation

What is normal for the Northerners is this kind of lopsided appointments Buhari has made!

Come up with another nepotism. I've answered you here:
https://www.nairaland.com/4026546/what-did-when-gej-favoured#60028616

Almaiga:
You're right, Baki shi kan yanka Wuya.

Na so bruh!

To those crying of marginalization about the government's ongoing appointments: What did you do when you once dominated everybody? Buhari, unlike you, will balance things out, as the exercise is yet to be concluded
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List Of President Jonathan's
Appointments Shows Ethnic Lopsidedness
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GEJ Appointments in the past 5+yrs
the North never cried out because it
is not in their nature.
The list amongst others goes thus:
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1. NIMET – Dr. Anthony Anuforom
2. NNPC – Eng. Andrew Yakubu
3. NIMASA – Patrick Apobolokemi
4. PENCOM – Mrs. Chinelo Anohu
Amazu
5. FERMA – Engr. Chukwu Amuchi
6. DPR – Mr. George Osahon
7. Bank Of Industry – Ms. Evelyn
Oputu
8. Nigerian Content Dev. Agency –
Mr. Ernest Nwanpa
9. Consumer Protection Agency –
Mrs Dupe Atoki
10. NCC – Engr. Eugene Juwa
11. NAMA – Engr. Nnamdi Udoh
12. NCAA – Engr. Akikuotu
13. FAAN – Mr. George Uriesi
14. NCAT – Capt. Chinere Kalu
15. SEC – Ms. Aruma Otteh
16. Sovereign Wealth Fund – Uche
Orji
17. NAFDAC – Dr Paul Orhil
18. FIIRO – Dr. Mrs. G. N Elemo
19. Maritime Academy Of Nigeria –
Oron Joshua Okpo
20. Railway Corporation – Eng. Seyi
Sijuwade
21. Nigerian Tourism Dev.
Corporation – Mrs. Sally Mbanefo
22. Budget Office Of The Federation
– Dr Bright Okogwu
23. NERDC – Prof Godswill Obioma
24. NEXIM – Mr R. R Orya
25. Standard Organization Of Nigeria
– Dr Joseph Odumodu
26. Nigerian Broadcasting
Corporation – Emeka Nkem Mba
27. Industrial Training Fund – Prof.
LongmasWapmuk
28. National University Commission –
Prof. Okojie
29. NESREA – Mrs. N.S Benebo
30. MDG Office – Dr. Precious
Gbenio
31. Surveyor General Of The
Federation – Peter Chigozie
32. Statistician General Of The
Federation – Dr. Yemi Kale
33. Accountant General Of The
Federation – Mr. Jonah Otunla
34. Auditor General Of The Federation
– Samuel Yonongo Ukura
35. National Orientation Agency –
Mike Omieri
36. News Agency Of Nigeria –
Oluremi Oyo/Mr Ima Niboro
37. NEPC E/S – David I Adelugba
38. NEPZA – Mr. Olugbenga Kuye
39. BPP – Engr Emeka Ezeh
40. NECO – Prof. Promised Okpala/
Professor Monday Joshua
41. SURE-P – Gen. Martin Luther-
Agwai
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While:
4 IGPs – Northerners, only 1 is a
southerner
Chief of Defense staff – Alex Badeh
NSA – Sambo Dasuki
All CJNs- Northerners
CJ Federal high Court- Ibrahim Bukar
EFCC Head -Mr. Ibrahim Lamorde
INEC Chairman – Northerner Attahiru
Jega
CG Customs – Abdullahi Dikko
FRCN DG- Alhaji Ladan Salihu
Nigeria’s north which occupies 70%
of the country’s land mass is home
to 55% of the population according to
censuses in 1921, 31, 53 and on.
http://newsrescue.com/list-of-president-jonathans-appointments-shows-ethnic-lopsidedness/#axzz4rM3LQ9Xs
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Lopsided appointments: Igbo Domination In Gov't Worries Ijaw, Yoruba.
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Secretary to Government of the
Federation (SGF), Senator Anyim Pius
Anyim, has come under criticisms for
allegedly presenting false and
incomplete data of federal
appointments in an attempt to hide
alleged Igbo increasing domination
of strategic sectors
http://newsrescue.com/lopsided-federal-appointments-igbo-domination-in-govt-worries-ijaw-yoruba/#axzz4rM3LQ9Xs

Chigold101:
in the North you have northern governors forum but in the south, we have south east governors forum, South west governors forum and south south governors forum so how and when did the North start to work in as separate geo political zone?

Let me not catch you tomorrow then, saying 'Core North,"Middle Belt," "Muslim North" etc.

fidalgo19:
Death will answer that question

As it would for everybody.

Redoil:
But omenka and omenkalives made us believe that gej is the cause of benue problem

You can't do without politicizing everything, even natural disasters!

doctokwus:
How would the scenario have looked like if there are Yorubas,Ibos,Ijaws in that list with no northerner and someone had come to tell them that the Northern names would most likely be in the "upcoming list ".How would they have felt?
I have said it that we should call bigotry and nepotism by it's true name,call a spade a spade and not a shovel!
The Buhari goverment is clearly
nepotic and filled with bigots and it should be condemned and resisted by every person who can rationally think,even if it favors you,your tribe or denomination today.He is dividing us further and further and advancing the cause of secessionists.

It has happened during Jonathan and northerners did not raise any uproar.
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This is a new one. So it's Buhari that's encouraging Nnamdi Kanu you mean?

eagleeye2:
In the beginning of this administration, a thing such as this happened and it took the noise people made for them to come out and say that more appointment will still be made. It is happening again.
Coincidence? No.

I only hope it gets spread. I am a diehard Sai Baba supporter. I will be disappointed if Sai Baba takes the Jonathanian way.

A Hausa idiom says something to the effect that: 'Your mouth can slit your throat,' or 'Your mouth can send you to jail.'
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In any case, na you get your mouth.

[quote author=bigfish3k post=60008125][/quote]That's why I said the formula is complicated. It is a mixture of many factors, but definitely population is one of them.

Stingman:
1. Quota system

2. Federal character commission

3. Different cut off marks in unity schools

..were all set up to make sure the north got their position unfairly..

The establishment hardly use it for the southern people...or else how couldn't you see that they don't use it to make sure the SE people.. especially have their quota in the army, Navy, airforce, Custom, police, Immigration, etc, etc...?

Federal character and quota is for the benefit of the country. If not for them, some states won't have any presence in the federal cabinet, as I am made to understand that each state must have a minister. If you look at elected representatives, it is these principles that ensures fair representation and therefore a feeling of inclusiveness.

Balkan:
ok are you happy with the zero for SE?

Not exactly. It's said the appointments are still remaining. So we wait for the outstanding ones.

Stingman:
..but you know that federal character commision was set up, to employ the very low qualified candidates from the north...Has it ever favoured the southerners?

Your impression of the North is the problem. You dudes always think others are undeserving. You can't be flip flopping - either advocate for total abrogation of what you thought was an unjust system or don't partake in it.

Stingman:
Which country on earth..would deliberately choose to punish one of its part? Which country operates on turn by turn basis? I thought you people said you have laws in Nigeria? Where is your federal character Laws?...and you exepct Kanu to obey another set of laws for breaking his bail condition? How on earth can a country progress when it operates different types of laws for different set of people?

You want Federal Character today.

Balkan:
Your elders said you have only one North. do you want us to divide you?

It's you that are using these divisions for your conveniences.
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But whenever you talk of the North the equivalent should be South, and when you begin with SE, SS, etc. you should also divide the North accordingly using the geopolitical zones.

You should divide the North into NE, NW, and NC, since you divided the South into SE, SS and SW.
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But somebody's saying there are as many as a dozen more to come.

Did the girl offend her?Why can't she beat her husband? You can't take the law into your hands. That woman needs to be arrested.

EmeeNaka:
Did I mention 'Hausa' in my post?

Sorry then; enlighten me by what you mean, "North don't kiss ..."

eagleeye2:
I agree.
But after learning Arabic, from their Mallam, what do they do next?

Some become Mallams, or businessmen. Others who've combined the studies with formal system can go on for higher education. and become great businessmen or government employees. Surprisingly, most of the rich men in northern Nigeria have in. one way or the other been Almajiri. I bet you that Dangotes dynasty and extended family have been Mallams and Almajiris.

Nukualofa:
Nonsense. These are Northern Literates

And you are what they call 'educated illiterate.'

SOFTENGR:
I quite agree with that point. Literacy is not about reading n writing in English alone. But the fact is, the VC reads and writes in English. His wife and children do. He's a VC today, not because he reads and write in Arabic, but in English. As an academic, he knows the truth, but decides to cajole his people into believing they are okay once they read n write in Hausa or Arabic and not in our lingua franca.

That's not the case. He's trying to correct a misconception. The word Almajiri is an Arabic word which means one who seeks or searches knowledge, often in distant lands. The worst thing about it is that those who went to conventional schools and acquire degrees in Hausa or Arabic we don't dare call illiterates, but you find that those, especially, who studied Arabic outside the formal system could sometimes be more proficient in that field, but still are referred as illiterate.
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I am currently grappling with this on a research I am engaged in. In my questionnaire, the entries for educational background mentions 1) Illiterate 2) Primary edu. 3) Sec edu and 4) Higher edu.
I thought it unfair that there are people who can read and write outside the formal arrangement and are labelled illiterate. I had thought of ways to accommodate that but couldn't find. My conscience won't go with the misperception but I had to leave it at that with the proviso (in my mind) that, that entry on illiteracy meant NOT educated in the WESTERN sense.

In whatever form, Real Madrid cannot be called a failure. The crop of players whether it was during Benitez or Zidane was/is world class. In whatever ranking, even when Rafael was there, Madrid would always be in the top five, whether it's net worth or form.

SOFTENGR:
Does Prof Abdalla Adamu has a son who is an Almajiri?
If yes, I would agree with him.
If No, then, he's a hypocrite.

He may not necessarily have in the sense you view Almajiri. But what he's saying is that literacy should not be equated only with reading and writing in English, as our own case portrays.

eezeribe:
They are not only scholars but professors... No wonder people from that region are so enlightened and civilised...

The slaves to European culture take any Nigerian who can't read and write in European languages as illiterate. Surprisingly, they call the Almajiri (who can read and write in Arabic) illiterate, but they wouldn't dare call a Saudi, an Egyptian or a Kuwaiti an illiterate.