Christianity Etc › Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by malvisguy212: 9:20pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Jessicha: contradiction gallore ...
what is spirit ?
what is soul ? what are you talking about here ? having spirit and soul is contradiction ? Goodluck with your thread. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by malvisguy212: 4:23pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Scholar8200: She is mistaking immortality for Eternal Life (The God-Kind)!!! Why then, does the devil also have Eternal life? wow, bro that is what I want to say in my first post. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by malvisguy212: 4:10pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Jessicha: most religions teach that humans are immortal beings , i.e human exists forever, have a never ending life
that explains why many believ when a man dies he only shed his skin... he is alive . but what dies is his lifeless skin (think abt a snake shedding its skin to get it better )
therefore, not mortals ...
if humans are immortal beings, how can Jesus come to give everlasting life to immortal beings ? someone sud explain this absurdity you miss the point completely, let me ask, how did human achieve this immortality ? The human NATURE is not immortal, it is the spirit and soul which is immortal. Immortality is achieved when the body of the believer is raised and transformed and then united with the soul. |
Christianity Etc › The Supremacy Of The Son Of God. Colossian 1. by malvisguy212(op): 10:49am On Feb 10, 2016 |
The Greek term for "firstborn" is prototokos. Firstborn of all creation does NOT mean christ was "born first" or created first, NO it refer to christ POSITION of SUPREMACY by virtue of the fact that He is the Creator of all things and everything came through Him , see verse 16. The word "firstborn" in Colossians 1:15 refers to positional priority not temporal priority. For example In Psalm 89:27 King David is placed as FIRSTBORN,but David was actually the last-born son of Jesse. Isreal is call "FIRSTBORN" but Israel was not the first nation that God brought into existence, but POSITIONALLY as God's chosen and privileged nation Israel was supreme.
The simply conclusion in colossian 1 was, the word firstborn was NOT use to described chronological oder of event. It was use to express Christ's priority as the CREATOR because all OTHER created being came through HIM as verse 16 say and I quote:
" FOR IN HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED : things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created THROUGH HIM and for him. "
There is a Greek word which means FIRST CREATED (protoktistos) but Paul did not use this word of Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The True Meaning And Essence Of The Lenting Season & Ash Wednesday by malvisguy212: 9:07am On Feb 10, 2016 |
excellencyabia1: did the early apostles observered it if it is so essential. And why does it has to stay up to so many years before coming in. Please let me state that i am just inquisitive. Jesus fasted for forty days. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 10:03pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212: There are differences between Christianity and religion, Many are GOING TO CHURCH but few are GOING DOWN THE ROAD WHICH LEADS TO LIFE. Many are RELIGIOUS but few are RIGHT WITH GOD.
Religion is DOING while Christianity is DONE. When Jesus cried on the cross, "it is finished" The work of our salvation was FINISHED, DONE, ACCOMPLISHED and COMPLETED. A religious man may be likened as a man who try to swim from river kaduna to niger by his own strength, he will never make it. But the man who is save by faith is likened to be a man who get on a ship, hoping it will take him to his destination. This man simply rests upon the ship and lets the ship do all the work.
THIS ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY. 1. RELIGION: "Salvation is something I must do. I must somehow earn or gain salvation by the way I live."
CHRISTIANITY: "Salvation is something only God can do. Salvation is of the LORD!" (Eph. 2:8-9).
2. RELIGION: Religion is summed up in one word: DO--man trying to DO different things to please God and earn His favor.
CHRISTIANITY: Christianity is summed up in one word; DONE--Christ dying on the cross to save sinful man (John 19:30).
3. RELIGION: The religious man is busy "working" (doing good works) in order to be saved.
CHRISTIANITY: The saved person is "not working" (Rom. 4:5) but is RESTING upon the finished work of Another. Although he must beware (1 peter 5:
4. RELIGION: RELIGION is man trying to BRING HIMSELF TO GOD (by human effort, good works, ritualism, traditionalism, sacraments, etc.).
CHRISTIANITY: CHRISTIANITY is Christ BRINGING US TO GOD on the basis of what He did for us on the cross, NOT by our own effort. (1 Peter 3:18).
5. RELIGION: Man trying to please God in the wrong way (Rom. 8:8--"So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God" .
CHRISTIANITY: Man truly pleasing God in the only way (Hebrews 11:6--"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" .
6. RELIGION: The religious man is seeking to establish his own righteousness by ignoring the way of the righteousness of God (Rom. 10:3).
CHRISTIANITY: The saved man is satisfied with the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).
7.RELIGION: Religion is pictured in Genesis 3 by the fig leaves that Adam and Eve made for themselves--a terrible covering (Gen. 3:7).
CHRISTIANITY: Salvation is pictured in Genesis 3 by the coats of skin which God provided by way of the shedding of BLOOD--a perfect covering (Gen. 3:21).
8.RELIGION: CAIN'S RELIGION--"I bring to God the labour of my own hands" (Gen. 4:3). CHRISTIANITY: ABEL'S FAITH--"I bring to God a blood sacrifice. An innocent substitute must die to save me" (Gen. 4:4).
Good works done by sinful man can never please a holy God. The greatest good work is GOD'S WORK accomplished by Jesus Christ who offered Himself on the cross as the sinner's Substitute.Thus we are not saved by good works but we are saved unto good works: "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:10). "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13).
Are you resting fully in the finished work of Christ? Are you trusting in Jesus Christ, WHO HE IS, WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR YOU and WHAT HE HAS SAID IN HIS WORD? "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22). |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 5:42pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: Backing out already? Spineless I suppose and also, your muslim companion has already spoiled the thread with childish posts. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 5:39pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: Backing out already? Spineless I suppose I did not back out, my job here is done, you begin the op as if you really care for the victims of rapist, but the argument progress, your REAL motive was known. You don't really care for them, you want to mock. Do you know at least most of this little children believe in the God you are blaspheme ? Keep on the good work. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:51pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: Including the talking donkey, and why?
Do you believe I am Christ? Goodluck. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:44pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: Interesting. How how do you interpret the story of the garden of Eden? Do you think it really happened? is this the first time you are chatting with me ? I believe every single WORD writing in the bible, beginning from Genesis to Revelation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:41pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Jesus told his disciples to sell their outer garments and buy SWORDS !!
" He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36) canal minded man. The same Jesus condemned the acts of peter who take up sword to cut off the ear of Jesus enemy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:37pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: I have no problem with gay people but raping kids or sleeping with young kids is a no no. Christianity will fall if the church accept homosexuality. That is why they are fighting it even when most of them are gay. raping is wrong, every sane man knows this. Christianity will fall ONLY to those who allowed pastors and priests to interpret the bible for them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:12pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: The thread is about Christianity and its many gay priests. However you shouldnt talk to me about some judgment of god when you know I clearly know there isn't a god.
When a young many ripe enough to smash a woman is still a virgin at the age of 17+,there are tendencies he will start smashing men. Why do you think at least half of priests are gays? Why was jesus said to only have moved with men/boys. Something is fishy. What is your judgment concerning gay priests and muhammed acts ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:04pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Jesuismoi: This man is mixing everything up to prove a point.  how did I mix things up ? The op mention muhammed and christians priests. What are you saying here ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 4:01pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ifenes: What if there is no god? who does the judging? Isn't it time we realize these criminals,rapist need to be locked up? stay on the topic, don't derailed, we are not talking about the existence of God. Justice will prevail, as a christian, God will give every man his reward according to his deed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012, by malvisguy212: 3:00pm On Feb 09, 2016*. Modified: 4:05pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of Barnabas Laid To Rest! by malvisguy212: 2:45pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 5:25pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
openmine: there is a difference btw studying a book and allowing someone read it for you....u will forever remain a slave to dat person who reads for you...
last time I checked,every believer was never deprived of the bible in any way...
So if some believers worship a minister,and carry him like d pics u put up,it simply means dey r zombies who accept wateva d minister or pastor says without studying to find out wat d bible says...
2 timothy 2:15 "study to shew thyself approved unto God...a Workman that needeth not be ashamed,rightly dividing the word of truth..."
A believer is meant to study d word in oda not to b deceived by dose who claim to b ministers..esp dose who speak as though dey are d only ones who have access to God's number...
there will always b false prophets, teachers and preachers of d word...they are every where even in Nigeria...but just d way u have good and bad people,u will always find both sides of d divide....
d logos which is d word of God will show u d difference....
in spite of d awesome things Jesus did on earth,he never asked his disciples or his followers to carry him or not let his feet touch d ground like dat sham of a pastor on d pic...on d contrary,he humbly washed d feet of his disciples... just to teach dem d virtues of humility.... word brother, God bless you...I love this coment " there is a difference btw studying a book and allowing someone read it for you....u will forever remain a slave to dat person who reads for you..." Perfect answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212(op): 9:33am On Feb 08, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Prayer is respectful communication between man and God. Christians are free to pray to their God from anywhere, from any direction, in any (respectable) position, at any time of the day or night and they can be assured that their beloved God would listen to them. To insist that you have to face a specific direction to talk to God is an insult to his Almightiness.
Psalms 4:1: “When I call, answer me, O my righteous God.”
However, whenever Muslims want to pray to Allah, they are commanded to do so at certain specific times, face a specific direction and follow a specific ritual.
Surah 2:144: We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces (when ye pray) toward it. (Pickthall)
QUESTION : 1.At the time when Allah revealed Surah 2:144 to change the Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca, the Ka’ba was still a pagan shrine housing 360 pagan idols. Why would Allah permit his Prophet to bow towards the Ka’ba while it was still polluted with 360 pagan idols? 2. Why must the prayers of the Muslims be directed towards the pagan shrine in order to reach the ears of Allah? 3. Since the Blackstone was venerated by the pagans during pre-Islamic days, why are Muslims all over the world commanded to face this very pagan Blackstone whenever they pray? 4.If you say it to unify Muslims, why are these very same Muslims who while praying unitedly in Arabic, still fighting and killing each other? |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 9:25am On Feb 08, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: 4:157-158
And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh,’ – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Isa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) But Allâh raised him [‘Isa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allâh is Ever AllPowerful, AllWise. ) can't you see the lies muhammed told here ? Are you blind or deaf ? It is the Jews who are boasting here, saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think! Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the “Messiah” when they have rejected him as the Messiah? It must be remembered that the Jewish religious leaders even objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah as this verse implies, would they have killed him? Whether they accept Jesus or not, the Jews will never make such a statement, sarcastically or otherwise. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 9:16am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: D post is for me as if for everybody reading it,how can u lie like dat and refuse to retrace ur lie,dis ur takuya is too glaring alright. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 8:55am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: Is dis what u quoted before,as u can see am not a Muslim & I don't need to defend their bullshit just as I can't defend d trash in ur Bible,admit u lied in ur early post & move on dats all,I only pointed out ur lie,i don't care about what Qur'an and Bible teach because they are all bullshit to me you are confused, and the post wasent for you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 8:52am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: I still don't get u dear perhaps u should help me with picture of handsome devil,I really need to see how he look,i might even love him if truly he is handsome as u want me to believe don't worry, he already love you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 8:47am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: Malvisguy212 u are a liar,d underline is hadith & u call it Qur'an verse to deceive ur zombie,I will save dis comments of urs because of d bold part for future purposes,d bold shows dat u believe dat muslims and Christians worship d same barbaric God (who enjoy roasting & killing human being).using Qur'an to validate ur belief when it suit u & later condemn it when it's against u is nothing but............... Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord THAT EVERYONE OF YOU BE TAKEN TO HELL .” |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 8:44am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: Why would I abuse?what's devil dear?how does it look?u need to tell me what devil is before I can agree if it/him/she is in me or not . I will be waiting for ur answer the devil is handsome and was made with the most beautiful and finest material. Don't allowed him to take control of your life. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 8:10am On Feb 08, 2016 |
lepasharon: You was already bullshittin from the title of the thread. The difference between religion an christianity ? Tell me, what difference? Why running away from the word religion. Were in the bible Jesus use religion in describing His disciples ? The very people Jesus debate with is the religious leaders, the religious leaders are TRYING , but Jesus is saying TRUST in me. Religion is "TRYING" Christianity is "TRUSTING" when adam disobey God, did he have a chance to save himself ? NO. Religion is Man hoping to save himself. Christianity is God saving hopeless man (1 Tim. 1:15) Good works done by sinful man can never please a holy God. The greatest good work is GOD'S WORK accomplished by Jesus Christ who offered Himself on the cross as the sinner's Substitute. Do you want to accept Jesus ? Loose free from religion burden or atheism. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Feb 08, 2016 |
reallest: Bible is full of trash jare,dat book deserve to be put inside dust bin forever I know you will not believe me, you will insult me. There is a devil in you but you don't know, a demon. |