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Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 8:29am On Feb 13, 2016
malvisguy212:
There are differences between Christianity and religion, Many are GOING TO CHURCH but few are GOING DOWN THE ROAD WHICH LEADS TO LIFE. Many are RELIGIOUS but few are RIGHT WITH GOD.

Religion is DOING while Christianity is DONE. When Jesus cried on the cross, "it is finished" The work of our salvation was FINISHED, DONE, ACCOMPLISHED and COMPLETED. A religious man may be likened as a man who try to swim from river kaduna to niger by his own strength, he will never make it. But the man who is save by faith is likened to be a man who get on a ship, hoping it will take him to his destination. This man simply rests upon the ship and lets the ship do all the work.

THIS ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY.
1. RELIGION: "Salvation is something I must do. I must somehow earn or gain salvation by the way I live."

CHRISTIANITY: "Salvation is something only God can do. Salvation is of the LORD!" (Eph. 2:8-9).

2. RELIGION: Religion is summed up in one word: DO--man trying to DO different things to please God and earn His favor.

CHRISTIANITY: Christianity is summed up in one word; DONE--Christ dying on the cross to save sinful man (John 19:30).

3. RELIGION: The religious man is busy
"working" (doing good works) in order to
be saved.

CHRISTIANITY: The saved person is "not working" (Rom. 4:5) but is RESTING upon the finished work of Another. Although he must beware (1 peter 5:cool

4. RELIGION: RELIGION is man trying to BRING HIMSELF TO GOD (by human effort, good works, ritualism, traditionalism, sacraments, etc.).

CHRISTIANITY: CHRISTIANITY is Christ BRINGING US TO GOD on the basis of what He did for us on the cross, NOT by our own effort. (1 Peter 3:18).

5. RELIGION: Man trying to please God in the wrong way (Rom. 8:8--"So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God"wink.

CHRISTIANITY: Man truly pleasing God in the only way (Hebrews 11:6--"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him"wink.

6. RELIGION: The religious man is seeking to establish his own righteousness by ignoring the way of the righteousness of God (Rom. 10:3).

CHRISTIANITY: The saved man is satisfied with the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).

7.RELIGION: Religion is pictured in Genesis 3 by the fig leaves that Adam and Eve made for themselves--a terrible covering (Gen. 3:7).

CHRISTIANITY: Salvation is pictured in Genesis 3 by the coats of skin which God provided by way of the shedding of BLOOD--a perfect covering (Gen. 3:21).

8.RELIGION: CAIN'S RELIGION--"I bring to God the labour of my own hands" (Gen. 4:3).

CHRISTIANITY: ABEL'S FAITH--"I bring to God a blood sacrifice. An innocent substitute must die to save me" (Gen. 4:4).

Good works done by sinful man can never please a holy God. The greatest good work is GOD'S WORK accomplished by Jesus Christ who offered Himself on the cross as the sinner's Substitute.Thus we are not saved by good works but we are saved unto good works: "For we are
his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:10). "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13).

Are you resting fully in the finished work of Christ? Are you trusting in Jesus Christ, WHO HE IS, WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR YOU and WHAT HE HAS SAID IN HIS WORD? "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22).
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212(op): 8:28am On Feb 13, 2016
malvisguy212:
if you cannot answer questions relating to your belief, how do you conclude that islam is the right religion ? Because the quran say so ? Does it mean that Islamic belief is blind faith ? You muslims are the one who need to be worried concerning judgment, the quran has already revealed your destination , and it is hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 8:26am On Feb 13, 2016
malvisguy212:
In Islam, it is not how one lives that
guarantees salvation, but how one dies.
To die while fighting the infidels in the
cause of Allah is the only sure way for
Muslims to be assured of a place in
Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment.

Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of
the believers their persons and their
goods; for theirs in return is the
garden of Paradise: they fight in H
is cause, and slay and are slain.
(Yusuf Ali)

Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul
which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT.

Surah 17:33 is an important verse for
suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means.

Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam.

THE BARGAIN OF ALLAH
It may surprise many to learn that all
Muslims, including Muhammad will
descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam.

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .”

THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71.

However, there is a way for Muslims to
bypass “Hell” and head straight into
Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with
Muslims to show how this is possible.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
strive your utmost in the Cause of
Allah , with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to
Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,
and to beautiful mansions in
Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed
the Supreme Achievement. And
another favour will He bestow, which
ye do love, – help from Allah and a
speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali)

The above Qur’anic verses were written
in the historical context of the Battle of
Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are
motivated by this murderous bargain of
Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in
the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place
in Paradise for cold blooded killers.

Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and
those who believe with him, strive
and fight with their wealth and
their persons: for them are all good
things: and it is they who will
prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:38am On Feb 13, 2016
JackBizzle:
Pastor


Is good also a created thing? You christians and your half baked logic.


God created evil. He is the almighty smiter. The punisher.


Yaweh the defiler
Good is not a created thing either. Listen, there is natural evil and moral evil, Moral evil is the sin of rational creatures (angels and
men) scripture indicate it, moral Evil came first. Natural evil is a curse brought upon the world because of moral evil. Moral evil exists because humans are free to do either good or bad, it's just that simple. Why does God allowed this to happened ? I mean why does God allowed Evil ?the simple answer to this is, God instills in each of Us the ability to know right from wrong. One of the purpose of God creating us is to CHOSE to Love Him or reject Him. as
sentient and free beings it falls on US to
choose, not God to dictate, if God dictate for us, then is partial freewill. So evil exist because WE ARE ALLOWED to CHOSE from it, who Allowed us to chose ? GOD. This mean, God is not the author of Evil, we are.

Evil exists because WE choose for it to exist ( we choose by doing what we know to be wrong AND by choosing to be apart from God)
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by malvisguy212: 10:38pm On Feb 12, 2016
sukkot:
grin grin grin my bros malvisguy212 i troway salute sir. we remain ever loyal
I just dey enjoy your picture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by malvisguy212: 10:33pm On Feb 12, 2016
sukkot:
buahaha shake the haters off with haterade. its like this, anything religion always comes with haters. i have found that out cheesy
you know, we have many kind of prophet, like prophet of doom, weeping prophet and many other. But you bros, I call you comedy prophet. Weldon.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:28pm On Feb 12, 2016
ichommy:
cheesy Confused people
No. You are confused, God created the whole world and everything in it. Evil is not a created thing, You can't see, touch, feel, smell or
hear evil. It is not one of the fundamental forces of physics. So just as scholar explained it. Evil is the consequence of God withdrawing His light. Just as we define darkness as the absence of light.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Feb 12, 2016
Scholar8200:
The passage in question is self explanatory, darkness/evil is the consequence of God withdrawing His Light. For example, man was not created with an evil nature.(Eating from the forbidden tree was not a question off morals but faith)
However, after the fall, man was separated from God and the heart of man became evil as a result Genesis 6:5

Meaning the creating of evil takes place as a consequence creatures being the determinants.
correct bro. God is Not the author of Evil, God does reward and punished people on the basis of Good and bad deed. God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through human authorities) on those who rebel.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 8:36am On Feb 12, 2016
malvisguy212:
Why do you chose to remain in deception ? Do you know the meaning of covenant at all ? Ishmael is the firstborn of Abraham, by tradition, the firstborn child should came first, yet the quran omit ishmael name who is the first born, and add Isaac name in the prophetic covenant. This strongly disqualified muhammed as a prophet.
Islam › Re: Can Prophet Come From Arabia? The Bible Speaks by malvisguy212: 8:31am On Feb 12, 2016
meixili:
وَاِنَّ مِنۡهُمۡ لَـفَرِيۡقًا يَّلۡوٗنَ اَلۡسِنَتَهُمۡ بِالۡكِتٰبِ لِتَحۡسَبُوۡهُ مِنَ الۡكِتٰبِ​ وَمَا هُوَ مِنَ الۡكِتٰبِۚ وَيَقُوۡلُوۡنَ هُوَ مِنۡ عِنۡدِ اللّٰهِ وَمَا هُوَ مِنۡ عِنۡدِ اللّٰهِ​ۚ وَيَقُوۡلُوۡنَ عَلَى اللّٰهِ الۡكَذِبَ وَ هُمۡ يَعۡلَمُوۡنَ‏ 


(3:78) And there is a party among them who twist their tongues while reciting the Book to make you think that it is part of the Book when in fact it is not.66 They say: 'It is from Allah', when in fact it is not from Allah. They falsely fix a lie upon Allah, and do so wittingly.
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if you are implying that this quranic verse talk about the bible being corrupted, then why will allah ask the Jews to judge with a corrupted book ? By the way are you hockeyoiler ? You behave like him, you don't adress post.
Islam › Re: Can Prophet Come From Arabia? The Bible Speaks by malvisguy212: 9:29pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili
When was the bible corrupted ? How can Allah command the Jews to judge with the early scripture, if this book is corrupted.? Or does Allah not known that the book is corrupted ?

Let’s review the evidence of what the
QURAN says about Bible:

The QURAN says the BIBLE IS GOD'S
PREVIOUS WORD TO MAN
Surah 2:136:
Say, [O believers], "We have believed in
Allah and what has been revealed to us
and what has been revealed to
Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and
Jacob and the Descendants and what
was given to Moses and Jesus and
what was given to the prophets from
their Lord . We make no distinction
between any of them, and we are
Muslims [in submission] to Him."

And the Quran also says that NO ONE
CAN CHANGE GOD'S WORD :
Surah 6:115.
"And the word of your Lord has been
fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can
alter His words, and He is the Hearing,
the Knowing."

Scholars and many old Bible manuscripts reveal that the contents of the Bible available in Muhammad's time (570 - 632 A.D.) are nearly identical to those of today's Bible. And the Bible of Muhammad's time, the one endorsed
by the Quran , says that Jesus was not
just a prophet because He ACCEPTED
WORSHIP as GOD.

Why believe Muhammad is superior to
Jesus when even the QURAN says that
Jesus WAS SINLESS: (Sura 3:45-46;
19;19-21), that He was born of a virgin
(Sura 3:47), was called the Messiah
(Sura 3:45), that He performed miracles,
like raising of the dead (Sura 5:110), and
that He bodily ascended into heaven
(Sura 4:158), and yet Muhammad DID
NONE OF THESE THINGS? The Quran
confirms the Bible of Muhammad's time
to be God's word, and in it we see that it
says that Jesus NEVER sinned even once. Yet the Quran says MUHAMMAD sinned (Quran 40:55; 48:1-2).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 9:05pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili:
Salamalikum my brother. Peace and good health to you and your family.

وَوَهَبۡنَا لَهٗۤ اِسۡحٰقَ وَيَعۡقُوۡبَ وَجَعَلۡنَا فِىۡ ذُرِّيَّتِهِ النُّبُوَّةَ وَالۡكِتٰبَ وَاٰتَيۡنٰهُ اَجۡرَهٗ فِى الدُّنۡيَا ​ۚ وَاِنَّهٗ فِى الۡاٰخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصّٰلِحِيۡنَ‏ 


(29:27) and We bestowed upon him (offspring like) Isaac and Jacob,47 and bestowed prophethood and the Book48 on his descendants and granted him his reward in this world; he will certainly be among the righteous49 in the Hereafter.





47. The Prophet Isaac (peace be upon him) was his son and the Prophet Jacob (peace be upon him) was the grandson. The other sons of the Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) have not been mentioned here, because from his Midianite descendants only the Prophet Shuaib (peace be upon him) was appointed a Prophet, and no Prophet was born among his Ishmaelite descendants for 2500 years or so till our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Contrary to this, the descendants of the Prophet Isaac (peace be upon him) continued to be blessed with the prophethood and the Book till the Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).

48. This covers all the Prophets who were raised from all the branches of the Prophet Abraham’s (peace be upon him) progeny.

49. What is meant to be said is this: The rulers and the learned men and the priests of Babylon who tried to defeat the mission of the Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) and the polytheistic people who had followed their wicked chiefs blindly, have since been blotted out and no trace of them is to be found anywhere in the world, but the person whom they had wanted to annihilate by burning in the fire only because he had proclaimed the word of Allah, and who eventually had to leave his country empty handed, was so blessed by Allah that his name has been well known in the world since the past 4,000 years and will remain so till the Last Day. All the Muslims and the Christians and the Jews unanimously recognize that friend of the Lord of the worlds as their spiritual leader. Whatever guidance mankind has received during the past 40 centuries has been received through this one man and his righteous descendants. The unique reward that he will get in the Hereafter is assured, but the place of honor that he has gained even in this world has not been gained so far by any of those who have exerted themselves in pursuit of the worldly benefits and advantages.
Why do you chose to remain in deception ? Do you know the meaning of covenant at all ? Ishmael is the firstborn of Abraham, by tradition, the firstborn child should came first, yet the quran omit ishmael name who is the first born, and add Isaac name in the prophetic covenant. This strongly disqualified muhammed as a prophet.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 6:38pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili:
I urge you my brother not to compare me to the greatest man to walk the face to of the earth. Peace.
muhammed is not even a prophet, the quran indicate it.
Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham),
We bestowed upon him Isaac and
(Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused
prophethood and revelation to
continue among his offspring.

Surah 29:27 mentions that Prophethood
and Scriptures came uniquely through
the seed of Isaac and Jacob. It speaks of
the prophetic office as having been
entrusted to Isaac and Jacob and their
descendants. And Allah also declared in
the above Qur’anic verse, that the
prophethood would “remain” in the
lineage of Isaac and Jacob. In other
words, anyone claiming to be a prophet
of God must be born in the Prophetic
Race.

If Muhammad is a descendant of
Ishmael, then he cannot be a
descendant of Isaac at the same time,
given the fact that Ishmael and Isaac are half-brothers.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 5:21pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili:
Peace my brother

وَاَوۡرَثَكُمۡ اَرۡضَهُمۡ وَدِيَارَهُمۡ وَ اَمۡوَالَهُمۡ وَاَرۡضًا لَّمۡ تَطَـــُٔوۡهَا​ ؕ وَكَانَ اللّٰهُ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ قَدِيۡرًا‏ 


(33:27) Allah made you inherit their land, their dwellings, and their goods, and a piece of land on which you had not yet trodden. Verily Allah has power over all things.

this part of the Surah was revealed after the autumn of the Hijrah year 7, it refers to the result of the Khaybar expedition of that autumn. Khaybar is a Harrah or volcanic tract, well-watered with many springs issuing from its basaltic rocks. It has a good irrigation system and produces good harvests of grain and dates in its wet valleys, while the outcrop of rocks in the high ground affords sites for numerous fortresses. At present it is inhabited chiefly by men of the race of Bilal (the Abyssinian) who played a prominent part in the expedition. It is a sort of island in the deserts on the outskirts of Najd . In the Prophet's time there were Jewish colonies settled here, but they were a source of constant trouble, especially after the Siege of Madinah. It became a nest of all the hostile Jewish elements expelled for their treachery from elsewhere. Its capital, Khaybar, is about 90 miles due north of Madinah. Its inhabitants offered some resistance, and 'Ali, though he had just risen from a bed of illness, performed prodigies of valour. After its surrender, a land settlement was made, which retained the cultivators of the soil on the land, but brought them under control, so that no further focus of active hostility should remain near Madinah. The terms of the settlement will be found in the Maghazi of al Waqidi
allah made him heir to their land and goods, and you call muhammed a mercy to mankind. And neglect the grace of God in christ Jesus . Alright, its your choice.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 4:48pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili:
Peace my brother in humanity. For you may insult me, I turn the other cheek and love you for the sake of God. I hope you have a great day, and enjoy good health.
I once chat with a muslim man here, let me mention him.
Visitor700, he said it is not Islamic for muslim to call non muslims brothers "Turn the other cheek" was a biblical reference, muhammed did NOT turn the other cheek.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 4:42pm On Feb 11, 2016
meixili:
The Qu'ran is a manual for humans, a manual for life. Pure, uncorrupted, free of contradiction. Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him was the best man to walk on earth, and an example for all of mankind.
how is muhammed the best man to walk on earth ? If you read the quran very well and compear the things Jesus did with what muhammed have done, I tell you the truth, you will not even call muhammed a prophet, in the quran, Jesus is the messiah, he gave life to a bird
, He heal the sick raised the death and do many wonderful miracle,YET you call muhammed the best man ever walk on earth ? Muhammed raid people, take their wives and property, while Jesus is busying restoring sight to the blind and given hope to the hopeless, you judge for yourself. Who is really a mercy to mankind ?

Surah 33:27: And He made you heirs
to THEIR LAND and their dwellings
and THEIR PROPERTY , and to a land
which you have not yet trodden, and
Allah has power over all things.
(Shakir)


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59,
Number 377:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: On the
day of the battle of Uhud, a man
came to the Prophet and said, “Can
you tell me where I will be if I should
get martyred?” The Prophet replied,
“In Paradise.” The man threw away
some dates he was carrying in his
hand, and fought till he was
martyred.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 12:28pm On Feb 11, 2016
annunaki2:
Unfortunately most muslims have been indoctrinated to never question the quoran no matter how evil, vile or ridiculous what is written in it.
you are right my brotherly.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 11:01am On Feb 11, 2016
Spybradd:
No justification for murder..all suicide bombers are murderers and have their places reserved in hell..
Cc malvisguy212
that is the common sense I want muslims to use.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 10:59am On Feb 11, 2016
Spybradd:
sorry,i got u wrong,thought u were promoting that evil doctrine.
Pls kindly modify. God bless
promoting what ? You mean by exposing the evil teaching in the quran , I am promoting it ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 9:39am On Feb 11, 2016
Spybradd:
ORIJINal.. Mi o so kan kan,o.
are you a muslim ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Lie In The Bible And Permit Lying?? by malvisguy212: 9:33am On Feb 11, 2016
johnydon22:
only a lie needs another lie to make it look good simple..

Stop defending lies
point the lies I told or remain silent.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Lie In The Bible And Permit Lying?? by malvisguy212: 9:31am On Feb 11, 2016
lllllllllllll:
More lying approved by GOD Almighty:

1 Kings 22:21-23
21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
23 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

GOD Almighty gave the spirit the green light to go and cause lying. And yet they tell us: "thou shalt not lie"?
God allows Satan to tempt Job by inflicting suffering on him. We see that God gives Satan some freedom of will to do evil and to tempt mankind.

And in 2 Thessalonians 2:5-12. We understand, God allowed evil people to work miracle,in fact those who reject the truth willfully,He allowed them to be overcome by delusion. God allows this to happen in the hopes that when the situation for those who listen to the lies goes from bad to worse, he hopes that the people will come to their senses and realize the foolishness of their rebellion. In any case, the hope and desire of God is obviously that his people repent and
return to them so that they can be
restored to a relationship with him and
so that he can bless them. The simple
fact is that sometimes when God cannot
discipline us because of our stubborn
hearts, he allows “the world” to discipline us. To be specific, in 1 Kings 22 because of Ahab’s evil heart, God chose to discipline them for their stubbornness and their idolatry. Similar to Job 1, he allowed Satan free.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Lie In The Bible And Permit Lying?? by malvisguy212: 9:20am On Feb 11, 2016
lllllllllllll:
Paul permitted lying in Romans 3:1-8 & Philippians 1:15-18:

Romans 3:1-8
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were intrusted with the oracles of God.
3 For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
5 But if our righteousness commendeth the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who visiteth with wrath?
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?
8 and why not, Let us do evil, that good may come? whose condemnation is just.

Paul here is admitting that he lied or that he might resort to lying for the sake of spreading GOD Almighty's Truth. This is demonstrated in the following verses from Paul:

Philippians 1:15-18
15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

So if one practices sodomy in California, USA, and offers his rear end for sexual sale to be politically correct to the society that he is in, or one does illegal sex with the girls in town and goes to the bars and get drunk with the people, to get the attention of those people that he is living among so that he can preach to them whatever he wants to preach, then according to Paul, these "false motives" are still justified! To Paul, the end literally justifies the means!
very simple. Paul is more pleased when the gospel is preach than the holiness of the preacher.

So two lessons: 1) Rejoice that God can
override prison and poor motives to
advance his cause. 2) Value the truth of
the gospel even more highly than you
value the attitudes of those who preach
it.
Christianity Etc › The Qur’an – A Manual For Suicide Bombers by malvisguy212(op): 8:45am On Feb 11, 2016
In Islam, it is not how one lives that
guarantees salvation, but how one dies.
To die while fighting the infidels in the
cause of Allah is the only sure way for
Muslims to be assured of a place in
Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment.

Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of
the believers their persons and their
goods; for theirs in return is the
garden of Paradise: they fight in H
is cause, and slay and are slain.
(Yusuf Ali)

Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul
which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT.

Surah 17:33 is an important verse for
suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means.

Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam.

THE BARGAIN OF ALLAH
It may surprise many to learn that all
Muslims, including Muhammad will
descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam.

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .”

THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71.

However, there is a way for Muslims to
bypass “Hell” and head straight into
Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with
Muslims to show how this is possible.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
strive your utmost in the Cause of
Allah , with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to
Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,
and to beautiful mansions in
Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed
the Supreme Achievement. And
another favour will He bestow, which
ye do love, – help from Allah and a
speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali)

The above Qur’anic verses were written
in the historical context of the Battle of
Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are
motivated by this murderous bargain of
Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in
the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place
in Paradise for cold blooded killers.

Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and
those who believe with him, strive
and fight with their wealth and
their persons: for them are all good
things: and it is they who will
prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212(op): 6:23am On Feb 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
Sahih Muslim Book 13: 4016Ibn
Abbas reported: When Allah’s
Messenger (may peace be upon him)
was about to leave this world, there
were persons (around him) in his
house, ‘Umar b. al-Kbattab being one
of them. Allah’s Apostle (may peace
be upon him) said: Come, I MAY WRITE FOR YOU A DOCUMENTS ; YOU WOULD NOT GO ASTRAY AFTER THAT. Thereupon Umar said: Verily Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) is deeply
afflicted with pain. You have the
Qur’an with you. The Book of Allah is
sufficient for us. Those who were
present in the house differed. Some
of them said: Bring him (the writing
material) so that Allah’s Messenger
(may peace be upon him) may write a
document for you and you would
NEVER GO ASTRAY after him And some
among them said what ‘Umar had
(already) said. When they indulged in
nonsense and began to dispute in the
presence of Allah’s Messenger (may
peace be upon him), he said: Get up
(and go away) ‘Ubaidullah said: Ibn
Abbas used to say: THERE WAS A
HEAVY LOSS, INDEED A HEAVY LOSS,
that, due to their dispute and noise.
Allah’s Messenger (may peace be
upon him) COULD NOT WRITE (OR DICTATE) THE DOCUMENTS FOR THEM.

These Hadiths state one thing clearly,
which is that Mohammed died with a
revelation which he wanted to speak out but could not/did not. He wanted to give the Muslims something of importance which will keep them on the right path. But he could not write it because of the commotion around him. This revelation remains unspoken and unwritten and went to the grave with Mohammed. What does this say about the Quran?
Christianity Etc › Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212(op): 6:20am On Feb 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
so you know the exactly time I created this topic but because you cannot defend what is made plain to you, instead you ignore it ? Okay
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 6:18am On Feb 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 6:17am On Feb 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
There are differences between Christianity and religion, Many are GOING TO CHURCH but few are GOING DOWN THE ROAD WHICH LEADS TO LIFE. Many are RELIGIOUS but few are RIGHT WITH GOD.

Religion is DOING while Christianity is DONE. When Jesus cried on the cross, "it is finished" The work of our salvation was FINISHED, DONE, ACCOMPLISHED and COMPLETED. A religious man may be likened as a man who try to swim from river kaduna to niger by his own strength, he will never make it. But the man who is save by faith is likened to be a man who get on a ship, hoping it will take him to his destination. This man simply rests upon the ship and lets the ship do all the work.

THIS ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY.
1. RELIGION: "Salvation is something I must do. I must somehow earn or gain salvation by the way I live."

CHRISTIANITY: "Salvation is something only God can do. Salvation is of the LORD!" (Eph. 2:8-9).

2. RELIGION: Religion is summed up in one word: DO--man trying to DO different things to please God and earn His favor.

CHRISTIANITY: Christianity is summed up in one word; DONE--Christ dying on the cross to save sinful man (John 19:30).

3. RELIGION: The religious man is busy
"working" (doing good works) in order to
be saved.

CHRISTIANITY: The saved person is "not working" (Rom. 4:5) but is RESTING upon the finished work of Another. Although he must beware (1 peter 5:cool

4. RELIGION: RELIGION is man trying to BRING HIMSELF TO GOD (by human effort, good works, ritualism, traditionalism, sacraments, etc.).

CHRISTIANITY: CHRISTIANITY is Christ BRINGING US TO GOD on the basis of what He did for us on the cross, NOT by our own effort. (1 Peter 3:18).

5. RELIGION: Man trying to please God in the wrong way (Rom. 8:8--"So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God"wink.

CHRISTIANITY: Man truly pleasing God in the only way (Hebrews 11:6--"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him"wink.

6. RELIGION: The religious man is seeking to establish his own righteousness by ignoring the way of the righteousness of God (Rom. 10:3).

CHRISTIANITY: The saved man is satisfied with the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).

7.RELIGION: Religion is pictured in Genesis 3 by the fig leaves that Adam and Eve made for themselves--a terrible covering (Gen. 3:7).

CHRISTIANITY: Salvation is pictured in Genesis 3 by the coats of skin which God provided by way of the shedding of BLOOD--a perfect covering (Gen. 3:21).

8.RELIGION: CAIN'S RELIGION--"I bring to God the labour of my own hands" (Gen. 4:3).

CHRISTIANITY: ABEL'S FAITH--"I bring to God a blood sacrifice. An innocent substitute must die to save me" (Gen. 4:4).

Good works done by sinful man can never please a holy God. The greatest good work is GOD'S WORK accomplished by Jesus Christ who offered Himself on the cross as the sinner's Substitute.Thus we are not saved by good works but we are saved unto good works: "For we are
his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:10). "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13).

Are you resting fully in the finished work of Christ? Are you trusting in Jesus Christ, WHO HE IS, WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR YOU and WHAT HE HAS SAID IN HIS WORD? "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22).
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Christianity Etc › Re: Fathers Sticking Their Fingers Into Their Daughters In The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:21pm On Feb 10, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Please Christian fathers I urge you to not follow your Bible and do NOT do this to your daughters!
your mind is soo dirty, am sure your muslims brother will be disappointed with you.

A girls virginity was checked by having a
white SHEET under them the first time
they made love. The SHEET was kept as
evidence. The man had exactly ONE day
to make this claim- meaning that after
that time the sheet could be discarded.
(Talmud Masechta Kesubos Chapter 1)
On top of that- because the sheet could
be falsified or the girl could have lost her hymen through vigorous activity and not through sex- the sheet was NOT accepted by evidence and the husband would have to bring two witnesses to prove that she had had sex before she married him- and if he had witnesses, the parents had to bring witnesses that would prove his witnesses were false (once again Talmud Masechta Kesubos Chapter 1) The idea that the passage is referring to WITNESSES and not an actual garment or sheet is confirmed in Sifrei 22:92 and the Talmud, Masechta Kesubos 46a) And Talmud Eruvin and Niddah deal with a MARRIED women's SELF EXAMINATION every month to see of she is still menstruating or not. it has nothing to do with a new bride being checked by anyone else.

The note on Doctors in modern Morocco
is NOT to the Moroccan Jewish community (which no longer exists since
they all moved to Israel after the state
was established and they were expelled
by the Moroccans). On top of that Isaac
was Rebecca's HUSBAND, not her father.
Also, what the person leaves out is that
the procedure is explictly PROHIBITED
after the giving of the Torah- Isaac was
not subject to Torah law at the time.
All in all, all you've provided is a
standard anti-Semitic rant in which
Jewish sources are misquoted and put in out of context in order to try and stir up hatred.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible The Gospel Of Porn by malvisguy212: 10:14pm On Feb 10, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Brother didn't prophet Jesus peace be upon him warn you about using the word fool ?
stop reading the bible like the quran. The context which Jesus say don't call someone fool, the context was about his disciples. And the context which Jesus call a person fool, He was debating with His enemies, scribe and pharasses. They acted foolishly and someone had to call their foolishness to their attention just as I call your foolishness to your attention.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible The Gospel Of Porn by malvisguy212: 10:06pm On Feb 10, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Little wonder why we hear from the media about Priests that are in involved with Pedophilic acts. However, from where these Priests inspire to do such acts? The answer is that they inspire from Bible. Actually, Pedophilia was born from this book of perversion. Let us see some passages that clearly support Pedophilia and Rape of preteen girls

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

But the most outrageous is that the Bible imply that God is a Pedophile himself! (AstagfuruAllah)

Numbers 31: 25-40

25. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
26. Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:
27. And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:
28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons,(including the little girls) and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:
29. Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
30. And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons(including the little girls), of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD.
31. And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.
32. And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,
33. And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,
34. And threescore and one thousand asses,
35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
36. And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:
37. And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.
38. And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve.
39. And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one.
40. And the persons(including little girls) were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls)

In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.


The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
to“God”! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls. Therefore Bible by saing that “LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical “God” . Shame to the Bible and Shame to its followers.

So when we hear from the media, Priests(Christians and Jews-majority of Christians) that rape and molest young preteen boys and girls, we must not be surprised because these are the teachings from their “Holy Book” the Bible, as clearly demonstrated from the Verses : Numbers 31: 25-40.
I explained this before.

in number 31. the Midianites were
descendants of Abraham through
Keturah, and by the time of Numbers
31,were a ‘tribal league’ of different clans and families. The midianites were
corrupted and they are seducing isreal to worship others gods:

Numbers 25:1-3
1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the
men began to indulge in se*xual
immorality with MOABITE WOMEN,2 who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate and bowed down before these gods. 3 So ISREAL JOINED IN WORSHIPPING the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them.

You see, the isrealite were having se*xual intercourse with the moabite women ,and this women are baal worshippers , because God had promise an everlasting covenant with Abraham, so he want to preserve the midianites , hence He save the virgin, infacte this virgin had to wait outside isreal for purification:

Number31:19
19 And all of you who have killed anyone or touched a dead body must stay outside the camp for seven days. You must PURIFY YOURSELVES and your
CAPTIVES on the third and seventh days.

And in number 25:17-18. It state why
God oder the killing:

The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Treat the
Midianites as enemies and kill them, 18
because they treated you as enemies
when they deceived you in the affair of
Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor.”

The reasons are stated in this passage as:
1. hostilities taken by the Midianites;
2.deception of Israel by them, in the
‘affair of Peor’. So God preserve the
virgins so that the midianites will not be
wipe out, for they are among the
descendant of Abraham.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible The Gospel Of Porn by malvisguy212: 9:58pm On Feb 10, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Your book is full of filth. I didn't write it. I know its hard for you. This is nothing I have barely touched on this subject.
fool, the song of solomon is about a man and a woman, the man first approach the woman, but the woman refused because the man was a stranger,but the man keep on insisting, after that the woman get use to him and accept him. As the love grow from strength to strength, they both fell in deep love. The man cherished her so much that he began to described her. But because your mind is dirty, you are thinking dirty and filthy things.

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