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Niflheim:
Why do christian churches in America apply for the "Religious Tax Exemption Form"? I thought they said that they are not a religion?

everything I said in the op is in the bible, if you disagree, point were I misinterpret the bible. The churches in America are not in the bible.

hockeyoilers:
Christianity is pagan to the core. Muslims are the best of creation because we worship the Creator not the creation. Though I respect my Christian brothers , they are misguided and in a state of kuffar

OAM4J lalasticala I pleaded with this gentleman to stop derailing my threads but he refused, he copy and paste this samething in all christians thread.

cloudgoddess:
That wasn't an opinion, that was from the dictionary.

so what's your point ? Believing in what dictionary explained about religion is your own opinion, and explanation in dictionary was right. Christianity is out of that definition.

menesheh:
Christainity is under the umbrella of religion. There is no doubt about it, no matter how many times you choose to apply equivocation fallacy to explain any possible differences between them.


Religion being a graduated cult amongst many others cults that belief in and worship of a supernatural controlling power, especially a personal god or gods. This is a replica of the old saying that "Lawers can see something white and said is it black" sort of analogy.

cult or religion discourage it members to questions their belief. What I explained in the op, I include bible reference, so the proof is in the scripture.

Skepticism is important to the christian
faith, John the baptist who soppose to
believe Jesus is the messiah, John still
have doubt at some point, that is why he send his disciples to ask Jesus "are you the messiah?"Jesus did not condemned him, instead He performed miracle in their prescence as proof. Thomas ask questions, infact, there was a time all the disciples complained in matthew 18:27.
Peter answered him, "We have left
everything to follow you! What then will
there be for us?" .

The bible advice us to test every Spirit
and see if they are from God.

cloudgoddess:
"religion (n) - the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."

Nope, still religion.

everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. Thank you.

hockeyoilers:
Christianity is a set of pagan customs and superstition. It's book corrupted to the core.

this thread is not for your likes, it is way beyond your knowledge, do not derailed this thread.

Niflheim:
You say that blood sacrifice of the innocent is not religion? That it is Christianity?..........................So why do your pastores always condemn the pagan ways of old?!!

blood sacrifice is a forestshadowing event in the old testament how Jesus would come and pay the price of our sin in the new covenant of Grace .

Jeze:
Rubbish

First Corinthians 1:20
(ESV) asks, “Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the
debater of this age? Has not God made
foolish the wisdom of the world?

This thread is not for you, you do not belong to the kingdom of God, Jesus likened people like you as dogs who eat from their master table, this teaching is beyond your knowledge. First
Corinthians 1:28–29 (ESV) goes on:

But God chose what is foolish in the
world to shame the wise; God chose
what is weak in the world to shame
the strong; God chose what is low and
despised in the world, even things
that are not, to bring to nothing
things that are, so that no human
being might boast in the presence of
God.

DeathStroke007:
How does this question relates with the topic? SMH

yes, this questions is important, what is the reason this disciples were killed ? Would they give their life for an untrue story ? There are outside biblical record how they died and the reason of their death. The
eyewitnesses had lived with Jesus and saw Him die and then live again. They suffered martyrdom or exile because they had seen and knew the living Truth. They alone had irrefutable, objective evidence of the resurrection. We don’t, but we have reasonable evidence provided in what they wrote.

The scribes and pharisees are willing to deny any evidence, for example Look at John 9, the man born blind. When he was Heal, what had happened they rejected the evidence they had gathered. Today skeptics will not look directly at the evidence.

truthman2012:
Good.

The religious aspect of the thread is referring to norminal Christians and muslims trying to please God in the power of the flesh.

The Bible says ''by strength shall no man prevail.

Neither is salvation obtainable by goog deed but through the finished work of Christ.

correct. God bless you.

There are differences between Christianity and religion, Many are GOING TO CHURCH but few are GOING DOWN THE ROAD WHICH LEADS TO LIFE. Many are RELIGIOUS but few are RIGHT WITH GOD.

Religion is DOING while Christianity is DONE. When Jesus cried on the cross, "it is finished" The work of our salvation was FINISHED, DONE, ACCOMPLISHED and COMPLETED. A religious man may be likened as a man who try to swim from river kaduna to niger by his own strength, he will never make it. But the man who is save by faith is likened to be a man who get on a ship, hoping it will take him to his destination. This man simply rests upon the ship and lets the ship do all the work.

THIS ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY.
1. RELIGION: "Salvation is something I must do. I must somehow earn or gain salvation by the way I live."

CHRISTIANITY: "Salvation is something only God can do. Salvation is of the LORD!" (Eph. 2:8-9).

2. RELIGION: Religion is summed up in one word: DO--man trying to DO different things to please God and earn His favor.

CHRISTIANITY: Christianity is summed up in one word; DONE--Christ dying on the cross to save sinful man (John 19:30).

3. RELIGION: The religious man is busy
"working" (doing good works) in order to
be saved.

CHRISTIANITY: The saved person is "not working" (Rom. 4:5) but is RESTING upon the finished work of Another. Although he must beware (1 peter 5:

4. RELIGION: RELIGION is man trying to BRING HIMSELF TO GOD (by human effort, good works, ritualism, traditionalism, sacraments, etc.).

CHRISTIANITY: CHRISTIANITY is Christ BRINGING US TO GOD on the basis of what He did for us on the cross, NOT by our own effort. (1 Peter 3:18).

5. RELIGION: Man trying to please God in the wrong way (Rom. 8:8--"So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God".

CHRISTIANITY: Man truly pleasing God in the only way (Hebrews 11:6--"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him".

6. RELIGION: The religious man is seeking to establish his own righteousness by ignoring the way of the righteousness of God (Rom. 10:3).

CHRISTIANITY: The saved man is satisfied with the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).

7.RELIGION: Religion is pictured in Genesis 3 by the fig leaves that Adam and Eve made for themselves--a terrible covering (Gen. 3:7).

CHRISTIANITY: Salvation is pictured in Genesis 3 by the coats of skin which God provided by way of the shedding of BLOOD--a perfect covering (Gen. 3:21).

8.RELIGION: CAIN'S RELIGION--"I bring to God the labour of my own hands" (Gen. 4:3).

CHRISTIANITY: ABEL'S FAITH--"I bring to God a blood sacrifice. An innocent substitute must die to save me" (Gen. 4:4).

Good works done by sinful man can never please a holy God. The greatest good work is GOD'S WORK accomplished by Jesus Christ who offered Himself on the cross as the sinner's Substitute.Thus we are not saved by good works but we are saved unto good works: "For we are
his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:10). "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13).

Are you resting fully in the finished work of Christ? Are you trusting in Jesus Christ, WHO HE IS, WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR YOU and WHAT HE HAS SAID IN HIS WORD? "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22).

abduljabbar4:
If you judge between us and them you will understand that we are more matured and respectful than them. Let's maintain that stand altough everything has its limit

see lies, you muslims, when you face questions that threatened your belief, if you have no answer to provide, your only answer is insult, is this not childish ? Read here and see for yourself https://www.nairaland.com/2904710/islamic-prayer

darkenedrebel:
No, I'm not deathstroke.

alright.

Rilwayne001:
Bokum!

you're the first muslims that condemned the gospel of barabbas, golpen take the book as the word of God.

Rilwayne001:
The Gospel of Barnabas like the bible is another piece of shiiit.. I dont believe either of them.

is their any different between the book of barnabas and the quran ? The book of barnabas even speak highly of your false prophet.

darkenedrebel:
Kindly drop a link to where you saw this.

are you deathstroke007 ? The link is there.

Scholar8200:
Amen, God bless you too. Surprisingly, another group claim it was Barrabas that was crucified! Does that mean the Apostles and disciples were persecuted for preaching and healing in the name of Barrabas?!!! At least NO ONE will deny that they were persecuted!

lol, barrabas was crucify came back to life, write everything. This muslims effort was just to proved the bible was corrupted.

DeathStroke007:
After Jesus had departed, the disciples scattered through the different parts of Israel and of the world, and the truth, hated of Satan, was persecuted, as it always is, by falsehood. For certain evil men, pretending to be disciples, preached that Jesus died and rose not again. Others preached that he really died, but rose again. Others preached, and yet preach, that Jesus is the Son of God, among whom is Paul deceived. But we - as much as I have written - we preach to those that fear God, that they may be saved in the last day of God's Judgment. Amen.

END OF THE GOSPEL

I will not call you muslim anymore, I will call you barnabasim, defend your prophet enoch here. https://www.nairaland.com/2912069/gospel-barnabas-laid-rest

Newnas:
first I am sure you didn't open the page of not a number of Islamic literature including the Quran were referenced

Since you don't believe the Quran its only logical that I Quoted the source you would trust



first I am sure you didn't open the page of not a number of Islamic literature including the Quran were referenced

Since you don't believe the Quran its only logical that I Quoted the source you would trust

tell me the verse and chapter muhammed performed miracle.
Writing a book and having idea is not a miracle, is a gift (talent), just as the book writing by Shakespeare.

Newnas:
Only if people would speak of only that which they have knowledge of!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Muhammad

Secondly, doing all this is not specific to Jesus only, rather many righteous men and prophets performed miracles before him. Moses' staff and splitting of the sea! Elijah's fire! Samson's strength etc all of this are in your Bible.

but all these didn't make them be raised to divine status.
The son of Mary is a Prophet and servant who was sent with miracles just like those before him, do not practice extremism in love to the extent that you get misguided.

And why do these people not comprehend!!!

nonsense, so wikipedia is your quran now ? Muhammed performed miracle in wikipedia.

Newnas:
I can never believe a people who worship a man born of a woman!

I can never believe a people who worship a mortal like them!

the good thing is that, no one ask you to believe, is a choice.

How can an ordinary man took clay,mold bird and give life to the bird ?
A mortal man heal the blind , raised the death and sooo many miracle, while allah greatest prophet could not performed one? Rebuked the devil and be set free from this satanic spell in Jesus name.

YourMain:
First things first. I'm not an Islamist.

The UK is not a Christian country. Stop fooling yourself. I'm sorry since when was being gay okay in Christianity. Or divorce. Or half the things Uk have put in their laws. No. The U.K. Is not a Christian country. They do whatever they want.

Lol so what? If those countries want to be liberal good for them. They're allowed to do whatever they want. So do Islamic countries. If they don't want to be liberal they don't have to be. Just because some countries have that doesn't mean they all could.

Lol. I'm not going to bother. I've been to the uk. I've been to Germany. I've been to France. I've been to the USA. The only country I would consider Christian is Spain. I actually see what happens in those countries. They're not Christian countries.

you are not a muslim ?

Newnas:
The cure for ignorance is asking!
One of Allah's names is al-Waduud the one who loves (His obedient and pious) servants. And He started His book with two of His name's that imply mercy -Rahman and Raheem!

what a silly comment, do you know the meaning of unconstitutional love ? Offcorse allah love his obedient slaves, who wouldn't ?

Lalasticala , this is front page worthy.

Wow, Scholar8200 you have done enough justice, deathstroke and any other muslims should answer this questions you ask please :
{LET'S ASK, WHO WENT TO HANG
HIMSELF THEN? WHO WENT TO RETURN
THE 30 PIECES OF SILVER?}

I never look at it this way, this is revealing, so according to the book of barnnabas, judas was crucify came back to live return the 30 piece of silver and then die the second death by suicide ? Lolzz. Truthman2012 you need see how satan has foul our muslims brothers. God bless you Scholar8200.

DeathStroke007:
When the prayer was ended, the priest said with a loud voice: `Stay, Jesus, for we need to know who thou art, for the quieting of our nation.'

Jesus answered: `I am Jesus, son of Mary, of the seed of David, a man that is mortal and feareth God, and I seek that to God be given honour and glory.'

The priest answered: `In the book of Moses it is written that our God must send us the Messiah, who shall come to announce to us that which God willeth, and shall bring to the world the mercy of God. Therefore I pray thee tell us the truth, art thou the Messiah of God whom we expect?'

Jesus answered: `It is true that God hath so promised, but indeed I am not he, for he is made before me, and shall come after me.'

The priest answered `By thy words and signs at any rate we believe thee to be a prophet and an holy one of God, wherefore I pray thee in the name of all Judaea and Israel that thou for love of God shouldst tell us in what wise the Messiah will come.'

Jesus answered: `As God liveth, in whose presence my soul standeth, I am not the Messiah whom all the tribes of the earth expect, even as God promised to our father Abraham, saying: "In thy seed will I bless all the tribes of the earth." But when God shall take me away from the world, Satan will raise again this accursed sedition, by making the impious believe that I am God and son of God, whence my words and my doctrine shall be contaminated, insomuch that scarcely shall there remain thirty faithful ones: whereupon God will have mercy upon the world, and will send his messenger for whom he hath made all things; who shall come from the south with power, and shall destroy the idols with the idolaters; who shall take away the dominion from Satan which he hath over men. He shall bring with him the mercy of God for salvation of them that shall believe in him, and blessed is he who shall believe his words.

the quran say Jesus is the messiah and He will come again. But the book of barnnabas say Jesus isn't the messiah. if the book of barnnabas was inspired by God, then the quran is not from God, God cannot display double standard. Your muslims brothers must be disappointed at you right now.

Visitor700:
No, but are those "hateful terror inspiring verses" not common misconceptions propagated by the media?

so when muhammed married his adopted son wife, had sex with slaves, behead Jews and christians, married more than 10 wives when he was soppose to marry 4. Is All lies told by the media ?

truthman2012:
Good.

God bless you.

my brother, the devil is a liar. I cannot believe people who chose muhammed as their prophet, are they insane ?

DeathStroke007:
http://barnabas.net/index.php/chapters/431-chapter-39adam-gets-life




Go read all chapters

you this boy, why are you soo confused ? Read here and see how the disciples died for their faith https://scannedthoughts./2010/03/29/the-12-apostles-skinned-stoned-crucified-and-beheaded/

The reason they are killed is because they preach the crucifixion of Jesus christ, how He died and ressurected, and the preach the sonship of God the father and His son. Would you chose to die for false doctrine ? Would the disciples give their life for untrue story ?

600 years later, muhammed the self proclaimed prophet came and say "they crucified Him not " who was his witness for this claims ? Those Jews and christians who believe Jesus was crucified, 600 years before muhammed came, ALL of them should've died, long gone, whose gonna take the blame for believing Jesus was crucify or is the Son of God ? Allah or satan ? What is the different between a god who made people believe in false doctrine and satan who is the DECEIVER ? Don't this indicate they are the same person (allah and satan ) ?

xerxesII:
Lmao
Circus clown
I'm a free-thinker

alright.

xerxesII:
Face your religion and stop _bitching around like a _senile _pussy!


Damn!

you are ashamed of your false prophet, that is why you claim not to be a muslim.

xerxesII:
Nigga, stop disturbing NL server with your dumb, _retarded threads

Its not like as if your threads r getting any converts

so give it a rest _bitch boy

And FYI I'm not a muslim

you are NOT a christian, read all Truthman thread and see if he is not telling the truth. Which kind of god hate unbelievers ? Allah has 99 names, there is no love in it, muhammed claim to be a prophet but his character is different from biblical prophets, he marry his adopted son wife and claim it is God who command him to do so, now if a pastor came and say to you, God say he should marry your wife, what will you call that man of God ? A real man of God ? That is how muhammed deceive Rilwayne001 ,hockeyoiler , deathstroke etc . See, we will continue to expose islam until the whole world hear. Thank you.