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Lukmann:so who is Allah rescuing in hell ? The evil doer ? |
Syncan:alright. |
Syncan:NO, the place of death and hades, is it purgatory ? |
Ioannes:is to prove that our faith is real, work is the proof, we are elected. Jesus say you cannot come to the father without Him ( election)... if you Love me you will keep MY commandment (evidence of election). He combine this two together when he say : my sheep here my voice (election) and follow me (evidence). Our works are not decisive in our salvation. They are evidence of God’s saving work in us. |
lalasticlala:thank you, what about now ? |
Lukmann:Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell.” The verse everyone of you be taken TO HELL, not crossing the bridge as you imply. Surah 19:72: “Then (Thumma) We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.” Those who are rescued are the pious ones. |
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Ganjafama:the peace you felt is not a true peace. The human nature is like a black and white dog, both fighting to gain control of your life, the one you feed the most is the one winning. You don't want to keep on fighting, you are resting temporary, this resting is NOT a peace. |
AbzDore:yes, muhammed is the ONLY prophet of allah, no wonder All other prophet are jews, not a single arab, that is the message surah 29:27 is saying: Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham), We bestowed upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused PROPHETHOOD and revelation to continue among his offspring. Prophethood are to come by isaac and jacob ONLY, Muslims scholars claim that Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael. But Ishmael is entirely excluded in the prophetical line in Surah 29:27. If Allah intends to include Ishmael, his name would be placed before Isaac, as he was older than Isaac by fourteen years. |
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malvisguy212:happy sunday |
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The morality of Jesus was so far ahead of its time that 2,000 years after Jesus brought it to this planet, modern society is still no closer to attaining it. 'Go the extra mile .... bless those who curse you .... It is more blessed to give than to receive ...' Present day morality, with its crude focus upon observable behavior rather than heart attitude, is hopelessly primitive and out of touch with reality. Consider these examples: 'Anything is OK as long as you don't hurt anyone,' says a man who wouldn't dream of injuring his wife, and devastates her by cheating on her. |
Everything anyone has ever enjoyed springs from God's creative genius and generosity. Riches is a gift from God, sin cannot take away your riches, sin will only lead you to doom. just like samson. samson strength is a gift from God, even when samson fornicate with delilah, his strength was still their, his disobedient lead to his death. |
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The earliest indications of the Old Testament canon come from the time of Ezra and Nehemiah and suggest that the process had begun during the Babylonian captivity (605-535 BC) with the Torah (the 1st 5 Books of the Bible). But the process was probably not complete until sometime in the 2nd Century BC. Deciding which books were to be included was done by senior priests based on general agreement that each book was authentic (written by the person identified as its author) and divinely inspired. The 39 books of the Old Testament form the Bible of Judaism, while the Christian Bible includes those books and also the 27 books of the New Testament. This list of books included in the Bible is known as the canon. That is, the canon refers to the books regarded as inspired by God and authoritative for faith and life. No church created the canon, but the churches and councils gradually accepted the list of books recognized by believers everywhere as inspired. It was actually not until 367 AD that the church father Athanasius first provided the complete listing of the 66 books belonging to the canon. He distinguished those from other books that were widely circulated and he noted that those 66 books were the ones, and the only ones, universally accepted. The point is that the formation of the canon did not come all at once like a thunderbolt, but was the product of centuries of reflection. Let's look first at the Old Testament. Obviously the first five books (sometimes called the Torah or the Pentateuch) were the first to be accepted as canonical.We're not sure when this occurred, but it was probably during the fifth century before Christ. Of course, the Hebrews had the "Law" for many centuries already, but they certainly did not pay very good attention to it. It was probably the work of the prophets Ezra and Nehemiah that restored it to general use and fixed it once and for all as authoritative. How about the rest of the Old Testament? The prophets' writings were also not brought together in a single form until about 200 BC. The remaining Old Testament books were adopted as canonical even later. The Old Testament list was probably not finally fixed much before the birth of Christ. The Jewish people were widely scattered by this time and they really needed to know which books were the authoritative Word of God because so many other writings claiming divine authority were floating around. With the fixing of the canon they became a people of one Book, and this Book kept them together. Nor is there a single date when we can say that the canon of the New Testament was decided. In the first and second centuries after Christ, many, many writings and epistles were circulating among the Christians. Some of the churches were using books and letters in their services that were definitely spurious. Gradually the need to have a definite list of the inspired Scriptures became apparent. Heretical movements were rising, each one choosing its own selected Scriptures, including such documents as the Gospel of Thomas, the Shepherd of Hermas, the Apocalypse of Peter, and the Epistle of Barnabas. Gradually it became clear which works were truly genuine and which mixed truth with fantasy. By the end of the fourth century the canon was definitively settled and accepted. In this process Christians recognize the providence of God in providing us with his written revelation of himself and his purpose with the universe. Questions still arise now and then about the canon. Some wonder why just these 66 booklets were chosen. Why not 65 or 67? Why was the sometimes puzzling booklet of Jude included to the exclusion of other edifying scriptures? To these questions we reply that these books are the ones that God himself has chosen to preserve for us, and he has not told us exactly why. Together they form an immeasurable treasure, and in them we find God's matchless gift to his people. Here we are moved simply to trust in his providence as he led his people through the years and gave us the most honored and powerful and comforting volume in the history of humanity, the book known as the Bible. And in his providence he has provided this treasure for you as well. Take up its ancient words and mandates and live by them! As you steep yourself in its pages, your heart will find peace at last. http://www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/bible-faqs/how-were-the-books-of-the-bible-chosen/ |
Lukmann:NO, every pious muslims will enter hell until the day of judgment, the hadith confirm it, hell fire will devour everything EXCEPT the mark of prostration, allah forbid it to be burnt. Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349: “They (the angels) would recognise them IN THE FIRE by the marks of prostration , for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken OUT OF THE FIRE having been burnt …” The muslims are not just crossing the bridge, they are IN the fire, after then allah will lay bridge across hell, the godly ones will be rescue and the evil ones will remain their. |
OLAJADON:lol. Alright. |
OLAJADON:are you sure you're okay ? How can God answer the prayer of a sinful man ? I live with you with your thread. |
OLAJADON:this will be my last post in this thread. The father is in heaven and it was the son that incarnate in jesus christ. When we pray, it was through the son we ASK, men can only have access to God through faith in christ , bible say the prayer of a sinful man is abomination to God, faith in christ is substitution of our sin. if you still insist , Goodluck . |
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OLAJADON: malvisguy212: |
OLAJADON:christ is a man. It was God the son incarnate in christ "a man". The verse say ONE mediator between God and man, the MAN, christ jesus. |
OLAJADON:what is the different ? The other brother say hadith is a revelation. Why did allah allow his revelation (hadith) mixed with fabricated ones ? |
OLAJADON:why is All his hadith is not authentic ? How do this false hadith make it way into sahih bukhari hadith ? How do you know a hadith is false ? If yes, what is the need of this false hadith still existing in the mist of authentic ones ? Answer this question properly and see how your muslims scholars are manipulating the truth. |
In whose name and by whose authority are we to pray? JESUS, and why is that ? 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" |
OLAJADON:you ask a question which is greater than your understanding, we come to the father THROUGH His son. When you want something from your father, you ought to obey his word, right ? Jesus is the WORD of the FATHER. |
lexiconkabir:the guy explanation was very lame. |
AlMuflihah:read the post I quote. |
nasiayam:muhammed is the only prophet who did not abide in what he preach. Here muhammed prohibit muslims to swear using forfathers name: 2094. It was narrated from Salim bin ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar, from his father, from ‘Umar, that the Messenger of Allah heard him swearing by his father. The Messenger of Allah said: "Allah FORBID YOU FROM MAKING OATHS BY YOUR FOREFATHERS ." ‘Umar said: "I never took an oath by them (i.e., my forefathers) myself nor narrating, such words from anyone else." (Sahih) Muhammed as usual violate his own command: 2706. It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: "A man came to the Prophet and said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, tell me, which of the people has most right to my companionship?’ He said: ‘Yes, BY YOUR FATHER , you will certainly be told.’ He said: ‘Your mother.’ He said, ‘Then who?’ He said: ‘Then your mother.’ He said: ‘Then who?’ He said: ‘Then your mother.’ He said: ‘Then who?’ He said: ‘Then your father.’ He said: ‘Tell me, O Messenger of Allah, about my wealth – how should I give in charity?’ He said: ‘Yes, BY ALLA H, you will certainly be told…’" (Sahih) This is not the first time muhammed commit the sin of shirk, muhammed praise the pagan gods and bow down to them, letter he claim it is the work of satan, satan enchant him ( how can satan enchant God's prophet ?) |
reallest:are you sure you are educated ? A muslim confused you with two DIFFERENT context, and you fall for this ? Alright. |
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these doesnt answer all my earlier question not even one...or r y confused or speechless...remember to put bible verses when answering any of my question.