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MizJanet:
Malvisssssssss the bold is a VERY big Lie , the hebrew word rendered spirit , is the same rendered breath , /ruach/ , while soul is Nephesh


Ruach which means spirit/breath appreared in Eclesistes 3:19 , not soul/ nephesh stop lyingggggggggg

MizJanet:
@ bold , Lol , despite your rants your bible still say " man and animals have SAME spirit" ecc 3:19 , is that what you call nonsense ? U called your bible Nonsense , okayyy

RagnarLodbrok:
Alright brother!

Live long and prosper.

menesheh:
Your argument is always a child play.

What is it that allowed you to make a moral choice as you put it (moral judgement). If your answer is your "brain", all animals have various cognitive reasoning ability that varies according to the way it evolved. Other animals have other possessions that you as a human didn't evolved with.

Loving or rejecting god is still the outcome of your brain chemistry. A mad person or a toddler don't give a damn about loving god or rejecting him because of the same brain chemistry.



Until you or the bible demonstrate and substantiate what a spirit is, it will still remain a dormant postulation and nonsensical.

dalaman:
,
Some animals like chimpanzee and elephants make moral.choices.
If humans are created in God's image and likeness then why aren't humans invisible? Why do you guys keep saying thrash?

MizJanet:
Lol @bold , are u saying ur bible is NOT INTELLIGENT , really ? Seem u forgot its d bible that said " man and animals have same spirit" ecc 3:19 ! Oh its not intelligent .okay

MizJanet:

Buhaha @ underlined , " all have the SAME spirit" eclesistes 3:19



Lie again , " all have the SAME fate" eclesistes 3:19



open your eyes and see what you quote, it says: "WHO KNOWS" some of your bible version even say " FOR WHO CAN PROVE" NLT , " WHO KNOWS WHETHER" ESV . seems you guys cant comprehend

MizJanet:

Ecc 3:19-21 says " man and animals have one spirit " ! See ur life , so since your bible which you relied on as proof says animals have spirit as man . Tell me where chickens and cows go when they die ? Lol , i guess lions go to hell .


Y'all are confuse beings .

RagnarLodbrok:
Are you tired of me already? Lol! Alright mate, new priorities for me now. Live long and prosper.

Ahmed4002:
The scripture that Muhammad came with is
called the Quran; which literally means, “that
which is recited.” Because Muhammad (pbuh) did
not write the Quran, he did not author it. But,
the angel Gabriel came and recited it to him
and Allah made his heart a receptacle to that,
just as a satellite is receptive of waves and
gives you images. Is there any other book in the
history of the world that you know of that has
been preserved, without the changing of even a
dot? No book—only the Quran. Don’t take my
word for it. Go to the library and read any
encyclopedia -read what it says about Islam,
Muhammad (pbuh), and the Quran. Read what
non-Muslims say about Islam, the Quran and
Muslims. Then you will see that what I am saying
is universally documented; that Muhammad
(pbuh) was the most profound individual in the
history of humanity. Profound why? Read what
non-Muslims have said. The Quran is the most
profound piece of literature in history. Read
what they said. Islamic life is so comprehensive,
precise and dynamic that it has never changed.
Read what they said. All of the previous
prophets, their scriptures and their stories and
the principle message they came with are
mentioned in the Quran with profound detail.
Did Muhammad (pbuh) meet them, talk with
them, and collaborate with them to write their
biographies? No, of course he didn’t. In the
Quran, the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is
referred to as the messenger of God, and that
is his limit as a human being. Muslims do not
worship Muhammad-they are not Mohammedans.
We have no right to take the name Muhammad
and claim that we are Mohammedans.

plaetton:
Correction sir,
Atheism is not a practice. There is nothing to practice.

Atheism is simply being impervious to religious bullshyte.

plaetton:
LOL.

I don't give a rat's bottom about Islam .

But, I must say that from my lifelong experience, the average muslim is much more intelligent and much more knowledgable and much more honest than the average Christian.

Of course, there are many reasons for this.

One is that islam is a bona fide religion, like it or not, and makes no pretenses about what it stands for .

Christianity, on the hand is a fraudulently contrived mishmash of borrowed this and plagerized that, is founded, supported, and perpertuated by fraud and fraud alone.

Angelou:
malvisguy212... I had even witnessed muslims on this platform who claims that mary was 9 years old when joseph defiled her... I see this as a foul play in a bid to defend the paedophilc instincts of muhammad pbuh

RagnarLodbrok:
Malvisguy212 here's what a brother had to say about the issue,



You have no case here. Some even say it's actually the bibles equivalent of zimri and has no relations to the Samaritans at all. Allah knows best, but there are 5 billion ways atleast to refute your foolish claims.

malvisguy212:
OAM4J . Can you put this on the homepage?

malvisguy212:
Cc OAM4J

RagnarLodbrok:
No. It's inconclusive, the area you claim there's contradiction, the Quran did not mention because it was irrelevant to the story. It spoke of a man named samiri and that was it, it did not say he was a Samaritan. The Quran did not mention whether he was a Jew or not or his background.

RagnarLodbrok:
The Qur'an, while thoroughly referring to the events of the Golden Calf, does not expound on the person of al-Samiri. A description of who he was is irrelevant to the overall message. As such, we cannot definitively say where he was from or why he was among the Israelites or if he was the only one of his kind. The indication that he did not have a covenant is that he was singled out separately from the Israelites and the covenant was established with the Children of Israel. The Old Testament mentions that there were some who escaped with the Israelites and stayed with them until the events under discussion occurred (see Exodus 12:38). So, because he was not one of them he did not suffer the divine punishment.


He wasn't a samiratan, his name was samiri.

RagnarLodbrok:
This copy and paste was brought to you courtesy of answering islam . Com, the proud pioneers of christian stupidity.


Fyi, I didn't even read it.

RagnarLodbrok:
This copy and paste was brought to you courtesy of answering islam . Com, the proud pioneers of christian stupidity.


Fyi, I didn't even read it.

RagnarLodbrok:
Foremost, it should be appreciated that the Quran contains numerous dialogues from many previous tribes, clans and individuals throughout human history. It even contains dialogues from different creations of God. None of these dialogues were spoken in Arabic. Instead, the Quran in the voice of God translates these dialogues in an expression and language which the specific audience of the Arabs could clearly understand and one which would best represent what was said at the time the dialogue took place.

Furthermore, it is imperative that one understands the context of the narrative with a view to appreciate why certain words may have been used. In 19:27-28, Mary was clearly being reminded of her association with great patriarchs such as Prophet Aaron (pbuh) who according to Jewish sources, was considered the first High Priest of the Israelites and through whom the priestly decendancy of his tribe, the Levites continued.

Mary had been under the guardianship of Prophet Zacharriya (pbuh) in a sanctuary (3:37) and had dedicated herself to her Lord. According to Biblical sources, Prophet Zacharriya (pbuh) was a priest from the decendancy of Prophet Aaron (pbuh) and hence of Levitical Priesthood if the Biblical position is to be accepted. However, according to these sources, it also appears that Mary was not herself a Levite but rather from the house of David, a Judah (Matthew 1:1; Hebrews 7:14) which would disqualify her from being referenced as 'descendant' of the tribe of Levi.

Mary's own people would clearly have known that she was not a descendant of the Levite tribe nor of the Levitical Priesthood and hence would not have referred to her as 'daughter of Aaron' which would have been expected if she was being referenced as a descendant of Prophet Aaron's (pbuh) tribe. In the Bible we note Mary's cousin, Elisabeth being clearly referenced as a 'daughter of Aaron' as she was indeed a Levite of Prophet Aaron's (pbuh) tribe.

Luke 1:5
"There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron (Greek: Thugater), and her name was Elisabeth"

Therefore, Mary's people would not have used the epithet 'daughter of Aaron', but rather, one which bound her spiritually to the priestly tribe of Prophet Aaron (pbuh) as she had remained under Prophet Zacharriya's (pbuh) auspices. Mary was clearly reminded of her 'noble associations' with Prophet Aaron's (pbuh) noble descendants when the charge of being unchaste was levied against her. In this manner, she would have been referred to Prophet Aaron (pbuh) as connected to him by faith (as a sister) and not in lineage.

The Quran is familiar with sibling epithets to denote spiritual and social relationships between members of tribes. For example:

Noah is referred to as a 'brother' of his tribe:

026:106
"Behold, their brother (Arabic: akhuhum) Noah said to them: "Will you not fear (God)?"

We find similar references for Hud (pbuh) (7:65; 11:50; 26:124), Saleh (pbuh) (7:73; 11:61; 26:142; 27:45), Lot (pbuh) (26:161) and Shoaib (pbuh) (7:85; 11:84; 29:36)

011:050
"And to Ad (We sent) their brother Hud. He said: O my people! serve God, you have no god other than He; you are nothing but forgers (of lies)"

Even the Bible is familiar with elective spiritual relationships.

Mark 3:35
"Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and mother."

Lastly, the family of Imran is referenced separately by the Quran. There is a whole Surah that usually bears the name (Surah Imran - Chapter 3). It is clear that this family bears no direct connection with the Amram from the Bible, who is the father of both Prophets Moses and Aaron. (pbut)


Isn't this the whole purpose of the thread? How many times have we been over this?

Scholar8200:
But Joachim is not in the Bible. It is not found in the hebrew genealogy of Aaron. The only Jehoiakim was a king that lived centuries after Aaron hence I believe that's not the one you are referring to. Can you give where exactly that name was mentioned?

RagnarLodbrok:
And did the prophet (pbuh) say anything about your bible or the Old Testament? Loool!

Confused sprag!

RagnarLodbrok:
lol!

Mark 3:35

RagnarLodbrok:
What? Are we speaking of the bible or Quran here?

Demmzy15:
Please shake it vigorously, make sure it doesn't fall o!