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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 7:16am On Apr 16, 2015
EzioAuditore:
He knew when he was dying like I said, that's why he gave the farewell sermon, but telling the people will only bring panic and so he didn't. Did you not read my last post? If this is your best argument then you are off point. Did Jesus give you a date of when he's coming back? Rubbish!
see, the verse is clear, even Allah don't know how muhammed will died.
Surah 3:144: “Muhammad is no
more than a Messenger: Many were
the messengers that passed away
before him. IF HE DIED OR WERE SLAIN ,
will ye then turn back on your
heels?” (Yusuf Ali)

After the posion muhammed ate from the food start working, muhammed know he will died soon ,this are hid last word;

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the LAST MOMENT of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISIANS for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their
Prophets.”

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
When the LAST MOMENT OF THE
PROPHET WAS NEAR, he used to draw a
sheet over his face; but when he felt
uneasy, he removed it from his face
and said: “Allah’s DAMNATION BE ON
THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS who
made the graves of their prophets
objects of worship.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 7:05am On Apr 16, 2015
EzioAuditore:
And Muhammad had 9 wives not 13. He did not sleep with slaves like you accuse him of doing.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) contracted some of his marriages for sociopolitical reasons. His principal concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. That is why he married the young daughter of Abu Bakr, his First Successor, and the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariyah, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. It was also a gesture of friendship with a neighboring king that Muhammad married Zaynab who was presented to him by the Negus of Abyssinia in whose territory the early Muslims found safe refuge. And where did you Christians get monogamy from eh? Islam is the only religion that restricts marriage and one can only marry more than one wife under special circumstances.
All what you wrote here does not fit a prophet, prophet don't fight war or find earthly pleasure,prophet don't marry little child, (the marriage of Aisha was a political reason,right?) infacte before muhammed became a prophet, he marry a rich woman kadijah who was older than him, infacte it was kadijah who advice him, the calling of muhammed by the spirit being is a calling from God, is kadijah a prophetess?a woman who has no knowledge of the true God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 10:10pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Muhammad focused on telling his people he was a mere messenger to avoid what happened in the case of Jesus where they mistook him for God. There is no need for God to start telling people when his prophet is going to die but Muhammad knew it was coming and gave the farewell sermon before then and when he fell sick afterwards and it became obvious, he told his daughter something that made her smile, that she would be the first of his family to go after him and so it was. Every prophet be it Elisha Jesus or Muhammad had knowledge and could perform miracles but only what God allowed them to. Did Jesus not pray to God? Did he not tell you not to call him good but God alone? He said he was sent to save the people of Israel, so God is sent to the people of Israel alone? The Quran teaches that all prophets are sent to a certain people but for Muhammad who was sent to all of Gods creatures. Do these facts not prove that Jesus himself surrenders to a higher authority? There are verses in the bible where he claims only God has certain attributes which he doesn't, does that not show you that there is only one God? Even Jesus claims not to have certain knowledge in the bible and that automatically disqualifies him as being your LOD because God has knowledge of everything.
you know not what you are saying , even john the baptist prophesied his death but Allah greatest prophet could not. Muhammed did not performed a single miracle https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 9:27pm On Apr 15, 2015
emusmith:
Oh dear!
I notice you are a moderator, why do you guys transfer my topics to the muslims section were I was ban? Do you guys find it pleasurable to hide the truth? Is this not a religion section? As long as the muslims coment on this section then you guy have no right to transfer topics in there section. God will judge you guys for All this evil.

Proverb1:24-26
24 Because I have called, and ye refused;
I have stretched out my hand, and no
man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my
counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will
mock when your fear cometh;

And verse 28-29 said.

28 Then shall they call upon me, but I
will not answer; they shall seek me early,
but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and
did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 9:12pm On Apr 15, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Mr. malvis, I'm still expecting the thread you promised to open for our discussion on the creation of Adam.


I owe you no explanation concerning the above for you are a stiffnecked being, I believe any reasonable muslim/xtian reading the refutation to the OP on page (1) will see that this thread has been desteroyed.

You and truthman can continue to wallow in your ignorance and deceit.

GOD is greater than you all.
your first post is still talking about what we all know, you did not explained anything, mutawaffika appear 25 times in the quran and all were talking about DEATH, but when it come to the very verse that talk about the death of Jesus muslims twist it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 9:01pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
You say it as if what Muhammad says and what Allah teaches are different? Muhammad taught men the Quran, he speaks only that which Allah wants him to, just because its not in the Quran doesn't mean he learnt it from the christians..
in other word, Allah want him to marry his adopted son wife and in the bible we read how God punished David for taking another man wife.apart from the 13wives muhammed had, Allah permit muhammed to sleep with his slaves. The quran even indicate that Allah shere his glory with muhammed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 8:51pm On Apr 15, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Truthman2012


Why didn't you point it out with your real moniker Instead of logging out and logging in your alternate moniker?

Oh! that must have been because of my comments before addressing the OP. I believe you know deep inside that is the bitter truth.




Even if your son read my explanation to your posts up there, he will be highly disappointed in this your response.

Now please tell me the major reason why you replied my comment with your alternate moniker.
this verse too was not talking about death, right?
Surah 39:42:
“It is Allah that takes (mutawaffika)
the souls (of men) at DEATH; and
those that die not (He takes)
(m utawaffika) during their sleep:
those on whom He has passed the
decree of death.” (Yusuf Ali)
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 8:44pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
And the same word and similar verse was used for Muhammad while he was still alive, what's your point? There's nothing twisted here? It's like saying May Allah bless Zakir Naik on the day he dies and the day he is awakened alive? He's still alive is he not? But on that day, May God bless him and also bless him on the day of resurrection. Does this satisfy your curiosity? Don't just twist meanings in ways that suit you.
if you are saying the truth, you would've qoute the verse,muhammed don't even know how he will die, not even Allah know.

Surah 3:144: “Muhammad is no
more than a Messenger: Many were
the messengers that passed away
before him. IF HE DIE OR WERE SLAIN,
will ye then turn back on your
heels?” (Yusuf Ali)
This is Allah talking here, he didn't even know the manner in which muhammed will die.

Surah 7:188: Say: “I have no power
over any good or harm to myself
except as Allah willeth. If I had
knowledge of the unseen, I should
have multiplied all good, and no
evil should have touched me: I am
but a warner.” (Yusuf Ali)

Let us analyze the admission of
Muhammad in Surah 7:188. It should be of interest for Muslims to know that in this single verse in Surah 7:188,
Muhammad admitted the following:
(1) He has no power over any good or
harm to himself.
(2) He has no knowledge of the unseen.
(3) And because of these limitations, evil
(in this case, poison) touched him.
(4) He was just a warner.

One can almost feel an admission of
hopelessness by Muhammad in this
verse. It is a dying man’s confession!
Muslims who ascribe power and miracles to Muhammad are, in fact, deceiving themselves.

The Holy Bible records the following
event where the prophet Elisha saved
certain prophets from the harmful effects of poisonous food:

2 Kings 4:38-41: “Elisha returned to
Gilgal and there was a famine in that
region. While the company of the
prophets was meeting with him, he
said to his servant, ‘Put on the large
pot and cook some stew for these
men.’ One of them went out into the
fields to gather herbs and found a
wild vine. He gathered some of its
gourds and filled the fold of his cloak.
When he returned, he cut them up
into the pot of stew, though no one
knew what they were. The stew was
poured out for the men, but as hey
began to eat it, they cried out, ‘O
man of God, there is death in the
pot!’ And they could not eat it. Elisha
said, ‘Get some flour.’ He put it into
the pot and said, ‘Serve it to the
people to eat.’ And there was
nothing harmful in the pot.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 6:44pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Lmao! Thatis why I warned you about translating things you don't understand! The day one wakes alive in islam refers to the day of resurrection, the day every one will face the judgement of God, the same has been said of other prohets and Muhammad as well, does it mean they died and came back? That's referring to the day of resurrection.

And as to the second part of your argument, no one can die before of after his time. That is just blessing them on the day they die or eventually died, the same was said about Muhammad in the Quran while he was still alive, does that mean he's dead or has died before then?
you have no clue of what you are saying here, muslims scholar twist the chronological sequence of event in the verse that talk about Jesus death but the same word was used for john and the accepts the translation, and you agree with there manipulation ? May God open your eyes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:51pm On Apr 15, 2015
Rilwayne001:
So you agreed that you can't tell us the reason why your god was nailed to the cross bah?



Yes sir, but sir don't you think your son who you said his also on this board will be highly disappointed with you attitude and the fact that you were unable to tell us which sin jesus died for?




If thats what rocks your boat, you can continue recycling, but let it be known deep inside you can only continue to fool your fellow gullible xtian, and I believe tje reasonable ones will notice how low you are, and they will surely embrace the truth. I just hope your daughter (my future wife insha Allah grin) will be online to read you deceitful attitude, and that will make her embrace islam.



Every reasonable individual reading your thread(s) and our rebuttals to them will surely know who is obstinate. And I believe anyone reading my thread about the sin jesus died for will observe the shallow brain you guys possesed.



The Verse Under Discourse
"And when Allah said:" 0 `Isa! I am going to take you away completely and raise you to Myself and clear you of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute."
______________________

What Is Tawafii
"At-Tawaffi": is to take something completely. It is for this reason that it is also used for death, because at the time of death Allah takes man's soul away from his body.

See, for example, the following verses where "Tawafi"is used: "... Our messengers take him completely ( i. e., cause him to die.)" {surah al-An'am: 61

"And they say:" What! when we have become lost in the earth, shall we then indeed be in a new creation?". ..

Say:" The angel of death who is given charge of you shall take you completely (i. e., cause you to die), then to your Lord you shall be brought back"
{Sajdah:10 - 11}

"Allah takes completely the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep; then He withholds those on whom He has passed the decree of death and sends the others back till an appointed term..." {Zumar: 42}

Pondering on the last two verses you will see that the Qur'an has not used "at-tawaffi in the meaning of death, rather the word gives the idea of taking and preserving. In other words, when at-tawaffi is used for death, it is not because it means death; rather it is used to emphasize the connotation of taking and preserving, to show and establish that man's soul does not perish, is not destroyed by death - - contrary to what ignorant people think; Allah keeps and preserves it until comes the time to return it to its body for resurrection. At other places where this sense is not involved, Allah uses the word Al-mawt (death), and not at-tawaffi.

For example:
And Muhammad is no more than a messenger, the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels?" {Al-Imran:144}

"... it shall not be finished with them entirely so that they should die ..." {Surah Fatir: 36}


There are a lot of other verses of this type, not excepting some verses in `Isa's story itself: For example, there are, `Isa's words about himself: "And peace be on me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised to life" {surah Maryam: 33}

And Allah's words about him: "And there is not one of the people of the Book but most certainly shall believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he (`Isa) shall be a witness against them" {surah Nisa: 159}

It all shows that at-tawaffi does not necessarily mean death.

This interpretation is also supported by the words of Allah refuting the claim of the Jews: And their saying:"Surely we killed the Messiah, Isa son of Maryam, the messenger of Allah;" and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so) like `Isa (; and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture; and they killed him not for sure. Rather, Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise. And there is not one of the people of the Book but most certainly shall believe in him before his death and on the Day of Resurrection he (`Isa) shall be a witness against them" {surah Nisa: 157 - 159}

The Jews claimed that they had killed the Messiah, `Isa son of Maryam, and likewise the Christians think that the Jews had killed `Isa son of Maryam by crucifixion, and that after he was crucified Allah raised him up from his grave to the heaven, as the Gospels say. But the Qur'anic verses, as you see, unequivocally refute the story of killing and crucifixion both.

It is apparent from the Divine Words, And there is not one of the people of the Book..., that `Isa (a. s) is alive near Allah and that he will not die until all the people of the Book shall believe in him. Keeping all these factors in view, the word "At-tawaffi, used in the verse under discussion, would only mean that Allah was to take him away completely from among the Jews. Yet the verse does not say so clearly; it is only its apparent connotation.

Source: {Curled From Tafsir al-Mizan of 'Allamah Sayyid Hussain Tabatabi}

In Badshah Husain's English translation of the Holy Quran, Sale is quoted on page 41 of Vol. 11. as under:
" It is supposed by several that this story was an original of Mohammad's but they are certainly mistaken, for several sectarians held the same opinion, long before his time. The Basilidians) Irrenus I. I. C 32 and C. Epiphan Haeres 42 num III (in the very beginning of Christianity, denied that Christ himself suffered, but that Simon the Cyraracean was crucified in his place. The Corinthians before them and the Carpocratians next) to name no more of those who affirmed Jesus to have been a mere man (did believe the same thing; it was not himself, but one of his followers very like him that was crucified. Photius tells us that he read a book entitled
"The Journeys of the Apostles", relating the acts of Peter, John, Andrew, Thomas and Paul, and among other things contained therein, this was one, that Christ was not crucified, but another in his stead, and that therefore he laughed at his crucifiers (Photius Bible Cod 411, col. 192) or those who thought they had crucified him (Tolands' Nazrenus p. 71)"
.

* The Jewish plot to kill Isa was prevented by the best of planners, the almighty Allah..

Mirza Ahmad 'Ali also writes:
Tawaffa is to fulfil a promise. "Inni mutawaffika" means "I will complete your term". The word may mean death or to take away. It has been used in both its meanings in the Quran.

The incoherent recording of the events of Isa's crucifixion, burial and resurrection in the New Testament, proves that the whole story had been fabricated to suit the doctrines of the Christian church.

All the Muslims, in the light of this and other verses of the Quran, do not give any credence to the false story of Isa's crucifixion and resurrection, fabricated by the Christian church..

In the verse of discourse, these words follow each other successively: "Tawaffa" (to take away), "tahar" (to purify), "raf-a" (to raise) and "nuzul" (to descend). These are the four effects of the divine will in connection with Isa, out of which the first three have already taken place and the fourth is expected to happen, before the final resurrection. The religion of Allah shall triumph over all other religions and creeds. The light of truth shall enlighten the world, and a perfect human society shall be established before the world comes to an end. This is His promise.

If tawaffa means death, then also there should be no doubt in the mind of a believer about Isa's nuzul because, as said in verses of al-Baqarah, Allah can give life to the dead or raise up any dead living being to life.

In the opinion of Shaykh Saduq (ra), this explanation is more credible..If tawaffa means departure from this world without dying, then his nuzul will be re-appearance after his temporary disappearance.

Allah Knows Best.

OYA RECYCLE YOUR NEXT THREAD AGAIN, THIS ONE IS DEAD
All what you write here is rubbish, In the above Qur’anic verse, the term
“die” is translated from the Arabic word,
“mutawaffika.” The term
“mutawaffika” occurs over 25 times in
the Qur’an, and in each case it refers to
the death of someone . Especially
enlightening is its usage in Surah 39:42:

“It is Allah that takes (mutawaffika)
the souls (of men) at death; and
those that die not (He takes)
(m utawaffika) during their sleep:
those on whom He has passed the
decree of death.” (Yusuf Ali)
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:40pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Your whole religion is a joke, so much so that even the Europeans that played the trick on you are starting to abandon it. For you to claim that your lord exited the womb of a woman is a silly joke. So your lord was once a helpless baby?
you are an atheist, right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:39pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
The Quran did not give a definite date for his death but rather blesses him on whatever day it is he dies, for john, it has already come to pass but for Jesus it's whenever it happens, the same statement was made about Muhammad ( SAW) even before he died, what's your point?
you seem to misunderstood me, am not asking when Jesus will died, what I ask is, did Jesus died and resurrected? Take a look at this;

This is Jesus talking here about his death ;
Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the
day I shall be raised alive!

And this is john talking here about his death ;
Surah 19:15: And peace on him on
the day he was born, and on the day
he dies, and on the day he is raised
to life.

Are not this two verse saying the same things? If muslims believe john died it means Jesus died too.
Qur’an translator, Yusuf Ali, in his
footnote of Surah 19:33:
“…Christ was not crucified (S. IV. 157).
But those who believe that he never
died should PONDER over this
verse.” (Ali, “The Holy Qur’an”,
p.774, f. 2485.)
You need to ask your self some serious question about your belief, God would not wait for 600 years just to send muhammed to say "they crucified him not" what about those who believe christ was killed before the coming of muhammed ? Who will take the blame for there unbelief? Allah or satan?
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:23pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Pfffttt! I would love to hear what part of the Quran contradicts itself.
read here https://www.nairaland.com/2121425/allahs-invalidate-own-revelation
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:12pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Teaching something other than what Jesus taught is even worse.
read the thread I paste, Paul teach what Jesus preach, can you answer the op? If you have any issue with Paul meet me in the other thread.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:09pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
I have no idea what his point is, maybe you should ask me a more direct question?
did Jesus died? If your answer is no, what about john the baptist,did he died? The same phrase Jesus used to prophesied his death? John used the same word to prophesied his death. Why did muslims not shift the death of john to the future, but shift that of Jesus to the future?
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 5:04pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Deception? Read the story of Paul, the major compiler of the bible, a man who has never seen jesus but claims to have seen a white light, a man who persecuted the followers of Jesus, and yet you follow his teachings and self made fallacy. What needs defense and I promise I will not keep shut, I will defend it to your understanding, there is no contradiction in Islam, only to those who choose to see with a blind eye.
Paul epistles was a teaching, there are differences between teach and preach, Paul teach what Jesus preach, Paul focus on ressurection and salvation in christ, which indicate Jesus is the way,truth and life, to know more about Paul teaching read here https://www.nairaland.com/1981918/did-paul-invent-christianity
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 4:58pm On Apr 15, 2015
EzioAuditore:
The only sense I could deduce from this is the issue of charity because every other thing here is rubbish! Maybe a more direct approach next time eh? What's your point? As to the matter of zakat and charity, do you know what zakat and charity are in islam? Clearly you don't because if you did you wouldn't ask such a stupid question. Zakat is a tax like percentage of a property that must have stayed for a period of one year to the less privileged, charity is anything you give to the less fortunate out of goodwill for the sake of Allah, there are no less privileged in Heaven dumbo! Nor can you keep goods or money for the period of one year. The problem with idiots like you is you translate the Quran however it suits you, the verse about him dying is a reference to whenever it his that he dies, not that he's died before.
read the op very well, your post is off topic.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 4:56pm On Apr 15, 2015
truthman2012:
I have noticed that they keep silent when they have no defence. They call it 'ignoring'. I like it so because sincere muslims will discover islam is deception as nobody is capable of refuting the falsehood. As the Lord lives, the wall of islam shall be pulled down in the lives of innocent muslims.
big Amen to that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 3:45pm On Apr 15, 2015
truthman2012:
Welcome bro.
thank you, let us see how they will twist the op if they can even attempt it .
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 3:31pm On Apr 15, 2015
CHM11:
I couldn't even finish the write up because of so many flaws from the beginning.
you can start by pointing out the flaw in the op, if there are flaw in the op, then you must agreed there are flaws in the quran. note: there are flaws in the quran.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? by malvisguy212: 3:25pm On Apr 15, 2015
emusmith:
Can you summarize your NOTE in one sentence?
Jesus died but the muslims scholar twist the chronological sequence of event in the very verse Jesus prophesied his death. But the same phrase is used in the verse that prophesied the death of john the baptist but the muslims scholar agreed, john died. If they agreed john died then it mean Jesus died, but they twist it just to avoid contradiction.

! I will take thee (Arabic- INNI MUTAWAFFEEKA) when ever someone died the quran used this phrase which mean DEATH, pay close attention to this verse;

Surah 39:42:
“It is Allah that takes (MUTAWAFFiKA)
the SOULS (of men) at DEATH; and
those that die not (He takes)
(m utawaffika) during their sleep:
those on whom He has passed the
decree of death.” (Yusuf Ali)

The term “mutawaffika” occurs over 25 times in the Qur’an, and in each case it refers to the death of someone. Especially enlightening is its usage in Surah 39:42. The same word (mutawaffika) is used when Jesus talk about is death.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212(op): 8:38am On Apr 15, 2015
mustymatic:
You are the one wit the error smiley
you don't have point to prove
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212(op): 8:24am On Apr 15, 2015
babylolaroy I read your coment on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2256206/whom-did-allah-pray but I couldn't reply because I was ban, what rilwayn paste there is way out of line, infacte it was not an attempt to answer my question, even the muslims scholar in this website in an attempt to explained the verse admits that the meaning of
blessings upon the Prophet is praise
for him among the “higher
group” (al-mala’ al-‘a’la, i.e., the
angels, cf. al-Saffaat 37:cool, and the
prayers of the angels and the
Muslims for blessings upon him are
for him to be praised by Allaah
among the “higher group” (the
angels).

http://islamqa.info/en/69944
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Coming In A Couple Of Days by malvisguy212: 10:22pm On Apr 14, 2015
johnydon22:
..lmao atheism doesnt entail being an evolunist.. atheism is just simply disbelief in any deity

.. so bringing up a scientific theory like evolution have nothing to do with atheism instead you should direct your rebuttals to scientist and collect a Nobel price
like I said in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2239640/why-fear-death . Until you and your atheists friends find proof that Christianity is false, you and your friends will keep on trembling with fear(will Jesus come?what if am wrong?what will I say to him?) soo many question.

If you guys are fully convinced Jesus will not come, non of you guys will coment here,
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I marry a Spirit Wife? by malvisguy212: 8:51am On Apr 14, 2015
lastmessenger:
you don't have what I want.
you don't know what you are looking for, what your definition of spirit? Do you think a spirit that does not have effect can cook and for you ? There is this saying that say " when a man heart turn cold,advice seems like noise"

An hausa man say;
Angulu ba'a soka ah'banza== meaning hawk don't come Down for no reason. Why do you want a spirit wife?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, son of man? Read This. by malvisguy212: 7:03am On Apr 14, 2015
Empiree:
There is no time you ever made sense. Roypcain seems to have made the same conclusion as others about you.

You are a very slow thinking man. Yet, you are adamant, obstinate, rebellious in rejection of truth.
roypcain couldn't answer this;

This is Allah talking here in this surah;
Surah 37:170-182 Y. Ali
But (now that the Qur'an has come),
they reject it: But soon will they
know! Already has OUR Word been
passed before (this) to OUR SERVANT
sent (by Us), That they would
certainly be assisted, And that OUR
forces, - they surely must conquer. So
turn thou away from them for a little
while, And watch them (how they
fare), and they soon shall see (how
thou farest)! Do they wish (indeed) to
hurry on OUR PUNISHMENT? But when
it descends into the open space
before them, evil will be the morning
for those who were warned (and
heeded not)! So turn thou away from
them for a little while, And watch
(how they fare) and they soon shall
see (how thou farest)! GLORY TO THY
LORD , the Lord of Honour and
Power! (He is free) from what they
ascribe (to Him)! And Peace on the
apostles! AND PRAISED TO GOD, THE
LORD AND CHERISHER OF THE WORLDS.
There are lot of problems here,These
examples of Allah praising, which
indicates that there are others who exist
as Deity to whom Allah directs these
praises, perhaps explain how the Quran
could say that Allah prays for both
Muhammad and believers:
Surah33:43
He it is who prays for you and His
angels too, to bring you forth out of
the darkness into the light, for He is
merciful to the believers.
Surah33:56
Verily, God and His angels pray for
the prophet. O ye who believe! pray
for him and salute him with a
salutation!
Thus, these examples of Allah praising
and praying demonstrate that there are
other beings who exist as God.
To whom did Allah praising go to? God
cannot shere is glory with man.there are God higher than allah who all this prayer and praised go to, prayer is talking to a higher deity,who is allah praying to? If you cannot answer it, LET IT BE SEALED IN YOUR HEART
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, son of man? Read This. by malvisguy212: 11:56pm On Apr 13, 2015
Empiree:
ifeann, see what you have caused now



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Now, what exactly have you achieved in your favor or in favor of Christianity in three months?. See how Muslims returned to Islam because you. As for me, you pretty much improved my thirst for knowledge. Because of you I decided to open 'library' where i store my researches and references for easy access.

So keep it up lady. Remember i told one time that 'they plot and Allah also plan' Allah is Best Planner. Remember that quote?
let all what the op said be sealed in your heart.

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