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Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I marry a Spirit Wife? by malvisguy212: 9:42pm On Apr 13, 2015
FOLYKAZE:
Skpeticism has reduced to zero ground especially with so called freethinkers who cant drive phenomena into philosophical reasons away from jokes. I think ignorance spark up reason, logic and general science. But all got is sarcasm and rhetoric questons that add nothing to intelligence.

OP, starting with, what is spiritual wife?

Judging from your OP, what you think is a beautiful and se.xy lad who you can fuccck that dwell in the spiritual realm or heavens. I have this strong believe that this is what you think spiritual spouse is. I could be wrong though but pls do explain what you think spiritual wive is if my belief is parallel to yours.

Thanks
your post make a lot of sense, you need to read the second post on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2146831/cast-out-demons-sonoflucifer-free
The second post on the thread I paste possessed lastmessenger.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 9:11pm On Apr 13, 2015
Roypcain here is one again.observe;

This is Allah talking here in this surah;

Surah 37:170-182 Y. Ali
But (now that the Qur'an has come),
they reject it: But soon will they
know! Already has OUR Word been
passed before (this) to OUR SERVANT
sent (by Us), That they would
certainly be assisted, And that OUR
forces, - they surely must conquer. So
turn thou away from them for a little
while, And watch them (how they
fare), and they soon shall see (how
thou farest)! Do they wish (indeed) to
hurry on OUR PUNISHMENT? But when
it descends into the open space
before them, evil will be the morning
for those who were warned (and
heeded not)! So turn thou away from
them for a little while, And watch
(how they fare) and they soon shall
see (how thou farest)! GLORY TO THY
LORD , the Lord of Honour and
Power! (He is free) from what they
ascribe (to Him)! And Peace on the
apostles! AND PRAISED TO GOD, THE
LORD AND CHERISHER OF THE WORLDS.

There are lot of problems here,These examples of Allah praising, which
indicates that there are others who exist
as Deity to whom Allah directs these
praises, perhaps explain how the Quran
could say that Allah prays for both
Muhammad and believers:

Surah33:43
He it is who prays for you and His
angels too, to bring you forth out of
the darkness into the light, for He is
merciful to the believers.

Surah33:56
Verily, God and His angels pray for
the prophet. O ye who believe! pray
for him and salute him with a
salutation!

Thus, these examples of Allah praising
and praying demonstrate that there are
other beings who exist as God.
To whom did Allah praising go to? God cannot shere is glory with man.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 8:32pm On Apr 13, 2015
RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; i have never smh for anyone until now. heck. you deserve it because you are so slow it is a chore to continue with you. i truly mean that.

if Allah says that Angel [AS] should prostrate [not worship in this case, but obedience to Allah is worship in this case] to Adam [AS], is that not enough evidence that Angel Jibril [AS] is not a partner and not really in the We of Allah when it comes down to the true meaning and that Jibril [AS] is obedient worship of Allah? does your God obey your another God? the God that obeys and the God that is obeyed, which one of the 2 is the true God? a God that prostrates in command and or worship another God is not truly the God to worship.

you are like your father [using your book against you] satan, the rejected, liar and killer from the beginning.
if I am slow in response because I am busy, you don't expect me to be online for the whole day.

We are not talking about worship here, I gave the example of the creation story in the quran because you said "when allah used the word WE, it include jibril" and there are many verse in the quran that indicate jibril was an angel, and the quran went further to say Allah told the angels to prostrate to adam, if we are to agree by your explanation that jibril which is an angels is AMONG the WE in the quran, then it does not make any sense at all because there is no way a man can create a being and prostrate to it, this is idol worship. Just face you are wrong.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 7:01pm On Apr 13, 2015
RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; Jibril is honored with beautiful titles; holy spirit is one of them. remember the title because you say you worship the holy spirit in your Trinity.
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.[/quote]when the quran say WE, this is not a title, what you are saying here is that God is a title which is very very wrong, Gabriel is a creature of God and if he was among the WE, how can you explained this verse;

“Does not man see that it is WE Who
created him from a sperm-drop? Yet
behold! He (stands forth) as an open
disputer!” [36:77]

Is jibril among the we? Remember when Allah created man he order the angels to worship man, how is it possible that jibril who you claimed joined by Allah in creating man would later worship man?

Angel Gabriel is not the holy spirit, Gabriel is among the archangel. The holy spirit is present now with the believers.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 12:20pm On Apr 13, 2015
RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; the verse you posted above the post of maamin who is above me now is a verse which God commanded angel jibril to identify Allah and go directly to the angels honoring God and their servant position to Him.
this all I wanted to know, the WE including the angel Gabriel, meaning Gabriel shere glory with Allah, Allah is a very very weak God indeed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 12:17pm On Apr 13, 2015
mustymatic:
You mean these?
When Jesus came into the region of caesarea philippi, he asked his disciples saying "who do men say that I, the SON of MAN, am? 16:15
So they said, "some say john the Baptist, some Elijah and others Jeremiah OR ONE OF THE PROPHETS." 16:16
He said to them "but who do you say that I am?"
Simon Peter answered and said "YOU ARE THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD" 16:17
JESUS said he is the son of man, blood and flesh, son of Mary. JESUS COULD TELL HIS DISCIPLES THAT HE WAS GOD, THEY WEREN'T GONNA KILL HIM huh
John 20:28, Jesus neither deny nor admit? IF he wanted to be worshipped, definitely he will admit
In the quran
Al-Maeda, Verse 72:
Indeed, the truth deny they who say, "Behold, God is the Christ, son of Mary" - seeing that the Christ [himself] said, "O children of Israel! Worship God [alone], who is my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer." Behold, whoever ascribes divinity to any being beside God, unto him will God deny paradise, and his goal shall be the fire: and such evildoers will have none to succour them!
JESUS didn't say he was GOD, worship the GOD of JESU
after this,I don't think I will be replying you anymore because your first post advice me not to twist anything which I obey ,if you want to debate with someone, you should be able to debunked his claimed and present your case, did you adress where I quoted"Jesus shere the glory with God"? No and many other of my post.

John4:24 say God is a spirit,can a spirit walk in a realm of human ? No unless God possessed a flesh, both the quran and bible say Jesus is the son and spirit of God but the quran never give the reason why such title should be given to Jesus. The reason why God spirit was on Jesus is because God himself want to have a personal relationship with his creatures just like he did before adam fall, God want to reconciled himself to man.that why the bible say Jesus had two nature,God and man;
GOD; because the spirit of God is upon Him.
MAN;because He walk in a realm of human as we all know a spirit cannot walk on earth.
Why do you change the written? Peter say" you are the son of the living God" but you twist it to say son of Mary, is that how to debate? Why dint you adress the rest of my post?
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 10:25am On Apr 13, 2015
mustymatic:
I thought I made clear my conditions... well since u can only come up with This, I hav no choice but to discard ur claims. So in summary, you are saying that Christians only assume that JESUS is GOD? u said he shared glory with his father, who do u think is the father then? why don't u worship the father since u claim JESUS is his son, cos the father wud b more superior.
And your question if a prophet cam hav these attributes is yes, JESUS perfomed miracles by the will of the GOD that sent him
christians are not assuming that Jesus is God , we are stating the facts.
John17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH
YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN."

What do you understand by this verse?
In john20:28 why dint Jesus forbid Thomas for calling him God? If he is no;
John20:28
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my
God!"
Peter called him son of God and Jesus did not deny it in matthew16:16.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:30am On Apr 13, 2015
mustymatic:
There is no eternal life u kno that, u must die.
your mind is spiritually dead, only Jesus can healed you, eternal life is heaven where there is no death and suffering.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:28am On Apr 13, 2015
mustymatic:
There is no eternal life u kno that, u must die...Muslims hav faith in all the prophets not only Jesus. Now answer my question: Where did JESUS say "I am God" or "worship me"? I want to c it kulukulu not beating about d bush, cos me my LORD says worship him in the quran.
Jesus never directly say He is God worship me if Jesus had said this, the Jews would have killed him early, infacte that is the main reason the Jews killed Jesus, when they ask him are you the God? He never say no. However there are many attribute that God alone possessed and Jesus claimed to possessed it too.let take a look at them;
Matthew23:24
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you
PROPHETS and wise men and scribes;
some of them you will kill and crucify,
and some of them you will scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute from city to city.

The old testament indicate God alone send the prophet, who then is Jesus?

John8:23
And He was saying to them, "You are
from below, I am from above; you are
of this world, I am not of this world.

If Jesus is not of this world then where did he come from?not only did Jesus claimed to come from heaven, but He said it was his throne,isn't heaven God throne?
Luke 22:30
that you may eat and drink at My table
in MY KINGDOM, and you will sit on
thrones judging the twelve tribes of
Israel.
John18:36
Jesus answered, "MY KINGDOM is not of
this world. If My kingdom were of this
world, then My servants would be
fighting, that I might not be delivered
up to the Jews; but as it is, MY KINGDOM
is not of this REALM."

Jesus claimed,He exist before the world was created.
John17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN."

This statement is an obvious claim to
deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist
before the creation of the universe, but
He claimed to share the glory of God!
Jesus also claimed that He had "all
authority... in heaven and on earth" and
that everything of God was His.

So tell me, can a prophet has this attribute that God alone possessed?
Islam › Re: For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt by malvisguy212: 8:25am On Apr 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
Allah is a weak god; he could not protect his previous Revelations. He also gains more power and might throughout time, because he supposedly is now able to protect his last revelation, the Quran.

Allah does not care about people being misled by counterfeit revelations. And yet he will still punish individuals with hell fire because they follow a corrupted
Message even though they may have not come to the realization that Allah had allowed it to be corrupted. That means Allah is UNJUST .the quran is the only religious book that abrogate it revelation and replace it with another and the former revelation are still in the quran,YET the muslims will still open their filty mouth to say other books are corrupt.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 8:05am On Apr 13, 2015
RoyPCain:
i know common sense is actually notcommon.
the american embassy in nigeria is part of america, a place very far away from the nigerian shore.

why is the embassy part of america except that it represents america. the ambassador represents the president. many represent the president; secretary of state, secretary of defense, etc.

God Alone is We as isaid. revelation is in 4 ways; inspiration , without the angel, inspiration withe the angel delivering, inspiration through dream, revelation during isra wa miraj.



in the 4 ways, Jibril appears in 1. what is interesting is that you block your mind concerning where i said God has absolute and ultimate right more than obas and british royal individuals who use 'we' for themselves, singularly. you held on to where Master may have counted His slave, honoring him so that the slave he is delivering the message of his Lord to can know this is from the Master, not anyone esle.

my the way, where We appears, the story/message/command will end up with I, Me, to indicate the We is actually talking about 1 Entity; God Almighty.


Surah17:1. Glory be to HIM Who made[b] HIS servant[/b] to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque of which WE have blessed the precincts, so that WE may show to him some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing.


make use of your senses, please. The Quran is understood by every muslim as Allah is the Speaker. so the Speaker is The We, He and the servant is Muhammad [SA] on the journey. do you speak english all day, using it as the language to communicate in your neighborhood, etc? if not, don't ever analyze any Quranic sentence. ever, you hear me? lol. 4 persons you said? what gives?
very good, the quran used plural pronouns for Allah.let me give you another example;

Lo! verily, ye and that which ye
worship, Ye cannot excite (anyone)
against HIM. Save him who is to burn
in hell. There is not one of US but
hath his known position. Lo! WE, even
WE are they who set the ranks, Lo!
WE, EVEN WE ARE THEY WHO HYMN
HIS PRAISED S. 37:161-166 Pickthall

Allah, the one supposedly speaking at
this point, uses plural pronouns to say
that he knows his position, sets the
ranks, and is the one who hymns the
praises of God! In other words, Allah is
the "We" and the "Us" here who is
praising and worshiping Allah.this verse is sooo clear, who who Allah is praising here? This word is reffering to Allah"even we are they " and the next statement is "who hymn HIS praise" who is the HIS? Surly the his is greater than Allah.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 11:42pm On Apr 12, 2015
RoyPCain:
so you fail and you now turn your attention to Quran? May you get some benefit from this below. amin.


i am sure you have heard the expression 'how are we doing today?'. to mean that the questioner is asking the questioned how are you, today. no? who has the ultimate right of majestic expression more than God? yet the obas in nigeria yoruba tribe and the english royals, individually use we for themselves, when talking about himself or herself.

itis true that all obas and english royal persons will die, while Allah will not die, ever.

now, Allah uses we for Himself alone to emphasis His Ultimate Majestic Status as only He can.

the least basic explanation of the we here [if Jibril was sent to deliver the Inspiration] may just be Me your Lord is the Ultimate WE. but since you will not see me, but will see My inspired servant Jibril [AS] who is my speaker to you, Jibril is in the we [so that you know I am the One Who sent him, and let your heart be calm and be strong in faith] similar to Messenger/prophet Moses being made God, and Aaron the prophet that followed him, while neither of them is God in reality, but Moses was Messenger and Aaron was prophet in actuality. your envoy represents you. whoever hurts an envoy hurts the one who sent him.
in other word, jibril and Allah are partner.and your post indicate jibril shere glory with Allah. You are confused here.

Surah17:1. Glory be to HIM Who made HIS servant to go on a night from the
Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque
of which WE have blessed the precincts, so that WE may show to HIM some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing.
Note the confusion of this last text. If you
take that sentence seriously, then there
are at least four persons involved here;
Person A to whom glory is given, person
B is the servant of person A, and persons
C and D (or more) who are the subject
and the speakers of this whole sentence.
Actually, who is "him"? … so that WE
show to HIM some of … surely HE is the
… seeing. Doesn’t the structure suggest
that the HIM and the HE should be the
same?
Whatever the case maybe, this point is
clear. The Quran does use plural
pronouns for Allah.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 10:41pm On Apr 12, 2015
RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; 1 with 3 personalities or persons is schizophrenic.
this is what you have made God to become? are you not able to use your mind?

all in all you failed the second time to adhere to yes or no.

remember the second time is after the first time and both of them are not just 1 time or same time.
explained the we in this verse;
This is part of the tidings of the things
unseen, which WE reveal unto thee
(O Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast
not with them when they cast lots
with arrows, as to which of them
should be charged with the care of
Mary: Nor wast thou with them when
they disputed (the point). S. 3:44 Y. Ali
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 10:19pm On Apr 12, 2015
Christ arose - and now lives! When He
ascended into heaven, He did not leave
His followers alone. He sent them the
Holy Spirit.

Why did God send the Holy Spirit
according to the following verses?
1. John 14.26 HE will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you
2. John 16:7-14 "...it is to your advantage
that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will SEND HIM to you.

The Holy Spirit Is A Person We might shirk that the Spirit is merely a power, a force, or an "it", when in fact, Scripture reveals that the Holy Spirit is a person. The Holy Spirit is a person in the same sense that God the Father is a person, and the Lord Jesus Christ is a person.

1. He Acts As A Person
a. He teaches (John 14:26; 1
Corinthians 2:13)
b. He testifies (John 15:26)
c. He guides into all truth, He hears,
speaks, shows ( John 16:13)
d. He prays for us (Romans 8:26)

The Holy Spirit Is God
1. The Holy Spirit possesses divine
attributes. He knows all things ( 1
Corinthians 2:11-12) and one can never
escape the presence of the Spirit, in
other words, He is omnipresent ( Psalm
139:7,cool
2. The Holy Spirit is associated with the
Father and the Son, and placed on the
same level as they are.
a. According to Matthew 28:19, the
disciples must baptize in what names?
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
b. Read Acts 5:1-6. According to verse 3,
who did Ananias lie to ? Holy Spirit
Then in verse 4, who is Ananias accused
of lying to? God Both verses are referring to the same person - Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit who is God.
c. According to John 4:24, what is God?
God is spirit.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 10:07pm On Apr 12, 2015
RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; i didn't ask you for verse. if you are my student, i will just write zero on your paper for failing to follow instruction.
by the way Us will not be 1. or is it 1? yes or no.

did you say 3 in verse of John? yes or no.
is 3 also 1? yes or no
God is ONE with 3personalities. The holy spirit is not a active force.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212: 10:05pm On Apr 12, 2015
Empiree:
rilwayne001, your brother don messed up here. Come see. God is not one according to him. Then he got confused all over.
o ye satan, do you think the holy spirit is a active force? If the spirit is a force, everyone can control the power.
Christianity Etc › Re: He Took Holy Communion And Had Sex After Church, Any Repercusion? by malvisguy212: 8:44pm On Apr 12, 2015
softapple:
Just want to know if there are any repercusion in what just happend, he went to church and took holy communion and immediately after church service, he had sex with a lady (church choir) that has a boyfriend at home.
I don't believe you, holy communion is taken every last or first Sunday of the week. Say the truth and liveth now.
Christianity Etc › Re: More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) by malvisguy212:
RoyPCain:
@ifeann, for you are some questions with definite yes or no to answer each and we wanna know if you have 1 God or more, up to 3 maybe.
lets see how you fair in this quiz.

1] is God Almighty the Creator and all else His creation? yes or no.
2] is there another God beside the 1 God Who created all creation without any aid? yes or no.
3] is Yahweh the 1 God The Unseen Creator? yes or no
4] is what does not have proper name that you call the holy ghost the 1 God The Unseen Creator? yes or no
5] is Jesus son of Mary who was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel [father Jacob] the 1 God Unseen Creator? yes or no
6] which one is truly God and the others are not? Yahweh or Jesus son of Mary or the nameless holy ghost? i can't answer or you stump me.
7] if Yahweh is God and Jesus son of Mary is God and nameless holy ghost is God, how many Gods are there? 1 or 2 or 3
8] which one is Ultimate God and has no equal? Yahweh or Jesus son of Mary or nameless holy ghost
9] if God is more than 1 is the worshiper of Yahweh plus Jesus son of mary and nameless holy ghost not practicing some adulatory? yes or no


let me stop here to give you a breather.
this verse answer your question;

Genesis1:26
Then God said, "Let US make mankind in
OUR IMAGE, in our likeness....

The words "us"and "our" indicate more than one person is talking and the word "image" indicate ONE GOD. If God is three the verse should say images and not image .our God is ONE with three personalities.
And the book of 1john revealed the number of 'us' and 'our' genesis was talking about to be 3.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear
record in heaven...
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 7:53pm On Apr 12, 2015
mustymatic:
Who told you Muslims don't believe in the
existence of Jesus? You are just going over what you barely have knowledge about.
IF only u worship Jesus because of the miracles he performed, then u r doomed. Pastors perfom miracles, like TB Joshua, y dont u ppl worship him?
Muslims are not Antichrist, we dont only love Jesus, in fact we worship the GOD of Jesus.
where in my post I say muslims don't believe in Jesus? I said "even the demon believe and tremble" Jesus advice us to have faith in Him and also said "he is the way to eternal life" none other prophet can say this, do muslims have faith in Jesus?

I read your post in the Islamic section,I was ban there, ask your question here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Fear Death? by malvisguy212(op): 2:04pm On Apr 12, 2015
davien:
Faith peddlers have conned quite a lot of people...
the bible encourage us to be certain in our faith in God and be fully convinced.

I really want you to check this link, when will we have "the theory of everything" Physicists want to find a single theory that describes the entire universe.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150409-can-science-ever-explain-everything
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Fear Death? by malvisguy212(op): 1:59pm On Apr 12, 2015
An2elect2:
The only time i can fear death is if i no longer have the assurance of salvation.

But am confident that my salvation is for ever. Amen.
and AMEN. Thank you my sister.
Islam › Re: For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt by malvisguy212: 11:18am On Apr 12, 2015
true2god:
No matter how the truth is recycled, it remains the truth. Keep it bro, we wont get tired of exposing the fraud in mohamMAD, and the falsehood in the quran with its numerous abrogations, and its anti-christians and anti-Jews rhetorics (quran 5:51, 9:29-30).
we will keep on saying the truth until it sink in there system.the quran is nothing but the word of satan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 10:05am On Apr 12, 2015
Blazinraj01:
Case closed, you ain't worthy of my opinion. Wallow in your ignorance
it's your choice, believe or pass by.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 10:01am On Apr 12, 2015
udatso:
Just as albaqir has replied this but it's your job to recycle. Chief recycler
offcorse, you guys will not accepts, thank you for your time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:59am On Apr 12, 2015
Blazinraj01:
Who is Muhammad?
muhammed is a man who is possessed by the devil to contradict the word of God, why will God waited for 600 years to send muhammed to say "they crucified him not? " what about thoes who died thinking Jesus is death, who gonna take the blame for there unbelief? Satan or Allah? Muhammed is very very confused, let me show you something here;

Surah 4:157: And their saying:
Surely we have KILLED THE MESSIAH,
Isa son of Marium, the messenger
of Allah; and they did not kill him
nor did they crucify him, but it
appeared to them so (like Isa) and
most surely those who differ therein
are only in a doubt about it; they
have no knowledge respecting it, but
only follow a conjecture, and they
killed him not for sure. (Shakir)

Why will the Jew killed the messiah? If you read this account in its entirety
from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you
will understand who they are that are
saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the
messenger of Allah.” According to the
Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think!
Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the
“Messiah” when they have rejected him
as the Messiah? It must be remembered
that the Jewish religious leaders even
objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah – as this verse implies – would they have killed him? Whether they accept Jesus or not, the Jews will never make such a statement, sarcastically or otherwise, regarding the Messiah because the Messiah is a reverential figure for whom they waiting for deliverance. No Jews will boast that they have killed the Messiah.
And the Jews are still devotedly waiting
for the Messiah.

If you chose to remain in this lies, it your choice, worship God or abandoned Him, God allow the tree of Good and evil to grow in the garden just for man to have two option(good and evil) , chose good and live. Thank you for your time. Good bye
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:43am On Apr 12, 2015
udatso:
Haha, this is little. They would post more lengthy ones. These guys are so funny, they created a topic to sell jesus to us and they are talking about terrorism in islam. Trust me, they can't help it but talk about Islam. Nothing feels tight for most of them if they don't talk about Islam. It kinds of give them inner peace I think
salvation is free.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:39am On Apr 12, 2015
Blazinraj01:
Yes. They will just wake and conjure speculation in their mind and post it on nairaland hoping to convince us all. I guess they can't help it. smiley
can you proved the lie in this? https://www.nairaland.com/2183400/inspired-muhammed

https://www.nairaland.com/2121425/allahs-invalidate-own-revelation

https://www.nairaland.com/2226270/jesus-son-manwho-father
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:36am On Apr 12, 2015
udatso:
Let me predict what would happen in this thread. A certain user called malvisguy212 or his friends would go and copy paste certain trash about Islam that have been dealt with already. Actually they are late already. They should be doing it now.
are you greater than your prophet who do cannot predict his afterlife? Or how he will die?
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 9:34am On Apr 12, 2015
Blazinraj01:
To complete his ministry which is to restore law and order on earth and defeat Dajjal. You know what He would be coming back as radical muslim kiss
Prophet Muhammad isn't coming back because it isn't in his mission and prophet Muhammad is late and he is in his grave like all other prophet worshipping God everyday.
Jesus on the other hand didn't die (he wasn't crucified and didn't die for your sins) but was raised to heavens and he has been there all this while awaiting his return. tongue
what mission Jesus did not complete? This is the deception of satan, Jesus has already come and convict the world of sin , I wish you know the implications of saying Jesus did not die for your sin, there are many things you supposed to know, but the dark nature of muhammed had blinded you, even yusuf Ali in his footnote on surah19:33 say;

" Christ was not crucified but thoes who believe Jesus never died should realy PONDER on this verse"

This verse record Jesus prophesied his death;
Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the
day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall)

The chronological sequence of event here is understood,born,die and ressurected.but muslims scholar disorder it by saying this verse is indicating born,raised alive and die.this is pure satanic manipulation.

But the same phrase is used in the verse of john the baptist;

Surah 19:15: And peace on him on
the day he was born, and on the day
he dies, and on the day he is raised
to life. (Shakir)
This is john the baptist talking about his death, will john also come back and die again? It is only Jesus that can deliver you guys from this satanic spell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 8:45am On Apr 12, 2015
udatso:
My medicine is for people who are ready to listen not for you. For you there isn't any drug for you. Your faith is in God's hands. Go and join your ifean and others to continue attacking Islam. You are better in that aspect not in defending your faith
give people medicine? Do you want to give what you don't have?
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, No Heaven/paradise! Muslims Hear! by malvisguy212: 8:43am On Apr 12, 2015
Blazinraj01:
Really? I didn't know that.
Muslims believe Jesus is coming back.
Jesus is coming back to do what? What about Allah only prophet muhammed?

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