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FOLYKAZE:your post make a lot of sense, you need to read the second post on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2146831/cast-out-demons-sonoflucifer-free The second post on the thread I paste possessed lastmessenger. |
Roypcain here is one again.observe; This is Allah talking here in this surah; Surah 37:170-182 Y. Ali But (now that the Qur'an has come), they reject it: But soon will they know! Already has OUR Word been passed before (this) to OUR SERVANT sent (by Us), That they would certainly be assisted, And that OUR forces, - they surely must conquer. So turn thou away from them for a little while, And watch them (how they fare), and they soon shall see (how thou farest)! Do they wish (indeed) to hurry on OUR PUNISHMENT? But when it descends into the open space before them, evil will be the morning for those who were warned (and heeded not)! So turn thou away from them for a little while, And watch (how they fare) and they soon shall see (how thou farest)! GLORY TO THY LORD , the Lord of Honour and Power! (He is free) from what they ascribe (to Him)! And Peace on the apostles! AND PRAISED TO GOD, THE LORD AND CHERISHER OF THE WORLDS. There are lot of problems here,These examples of Allah praising, which indicates that there are others who exist as Deity to whom Allah directs these praises, perhaps explain how the Quran could say that Allah prays for both Muhammad and believers: Surah33:43 He it is who prays for you and His angels too, to bring you forth out of the darkness into the light, for He is merciful to the believers. Surah33:56 Verily, God and His angels pray for the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him and salute him with a salutation! Thus, these examples of Allah praising and praying demonstrate that there are other beings who exist as God. To whom did Allah praising go to? God cannot shere is glory with man. |
RoyPCain:if I am slow in response because I am busy, you don't expect me to be online for the whole day. We are not talking about worship here, I gave the example of the creation story in the quran because you said "when allah used the word WE, it include jibril" and there are many verse in the quran that indicate jibril was an angel, and the quran went further to say Allah told the angels to prostrate to adam, if we are to agree by your explanation that jibril which is an angels is AMONG the WE in the quran, then it does not make any sense at all because there is no way a man can create a being and prostrate to it, this is idol worship. Just face you are wrong. |
RoyPCain:.[/quote]when the quran say WE, this is not a title, what you are saying here is that God is a title which is very very wrong, Gabriel is a creature of God and if he was among the WE, how can you explained this verse; “Does not man see that it is WE Who created him from a sperm-drop? Yet behold! He (stands forth) as an open disputer!” [36:77] Is jibril among the we? Remember when Allah created man he order the angels to worship man, how is it possible that jibril who you claimed joined by Allah in creating man would later worship man? Angel Gabriel is not the holy spirit, Gabriel is among the archangel. The holy spirit is present now with the believers. |
RoyPCain:this all I wanted to know, the WE including the angel Gabriel, meaning Gabriel shere glory with Allah, Allah is a very very weak God indeed. |
mustymatic:after this,I don't think I will be replying you anymore because your first post advice me not to twist anything which I obey ,if you want to debate with someone, you should be able to debunked his claimed and present your case, did you adress where I quoted"Jesus shere the glory with God"? No and many other of my post. John4:24 say God is a spirit,can a spirit walk in a realm of human ? No unless God possessed a flesh, both the quran and bible say Jesus is the son and spirit of God but the quran never give the reason why such title should be given to Jesus. The reason why God spirit was on Jesus is because God himself want to have a personal relationship with his creatures just like he did before adam fall, God want to reconciled himself to man.that why the bible say Jesus had two nature,God and man; GOD; because the spirit of God is upon Him. MAN;because He walk in a realm of human as we all know a spirit cannot walk on earth. Why do you change the written? Peter say" you are the son of the living God" but you twist it to say son of Mary, is that how to debate? Why dint you adress the rest of my post? |
mustymatic:christians are not assuming that Jesus is God , we are stating the facts. John17:5 "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN." What do you understand by this verse? In john20:28 why dint Jesus forbid Thomas for calling him God? If he is no; John20:28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" Peter called him son of God and Jesus did not deny it in matthew16:16. |
mustymatic:your mind is spiritually dead, only Jesus can healed you, eternal life is heaven where there is no death and suffering. |
mustymatic:Jesus never directly say He is God worship me if Jesus had said this, the Jews would have killed him early, infacte that is the main reason the Jews killed Jesus, when they ask him are you the God? He never say no. However there are many attribute that God alone possessed and Jesus claimed to possessed it too.let take a look at them; Matthew23:24 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you PROPHETS and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city. The old testament indicate God alone send the prophet, who then is Jesus? John8:23 And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. If Jesus is not of this world then where did he come from?not only did Jesus claimed to come from heaven, but He said it was his throne,isn't heaven God throne? Luke 22:30 that you may eat and drink at My table in MY KINGDOM, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. John18:36 Jesus answered, "MY KINGDOM is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting, that I might not be delivered up to the Jews; but as it is, MY KINGDOM is not of this REALM." Jesus claimed,He exist before the world was created. John17:5 "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN." This statement is an obvious claim to deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist before the creation of the universe, but He claimed to share the glory of God! Jesus also claimed that He had "all authority... in heaven and on earth" and that everything of God was His. So tell me, can a prophet has this attribute that God alone possessed? |
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RoyPCain:very good, the quran used plural pronouns for Allah.let me give you another example; Lo! verily, ye and that which ye worship, Ye cannot excite (anyone) against HIM. Save him who is to burn in hell. There is not one of US but hath his known position. Lo! WE, even WE are they who set the ranks, Lo! WE, EVEN WE ARE THEY WHO HYMN HIS PRAISED S. 37:161-166 Pickthall Allah, the one supposedly speaking at this point, uses plural pronouns to say that he knows his position, sets the ranks, and is the one who hymns the praises of God! In other words, Allah is the "We" and the "Us" here who is praising and worshiping Allah.this verse is sooo clear, who who Allah is praising here? This word is reffering to Allah"even we are they " and the next statement is "who hymn HIS praise" who is the HIS? Surly the his is greater than Allah. |
RoyPCain:in other word, jibril and Allah are partner.and your post indicate jibril shere glory with Allah. You are confused here. Surah17:1. Glory be to HIM Who made HIS servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque of which WE have blessed the precincts, so that WE may show to HIM some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. Note the confusion of this last text. If you take that sentence seriously, then there are at least four persons involved here; Person A to whom glory is given, person B is the servant of person A, and persons C and D (or more) who are the subject and the speakers of this whole sentence. Actually, who is "him"? … so that WE show to HIM some of … surely HE is the … seeing. Doesn’t the structure suggest that the HIM and the HE should be the same? Whatever the case maybe, this point is clear. The Quran does use plural pronouns for Allah. |
RoyPCain:explained the we in this verse; This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which WE reveal unto thee (O Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point). S. 3:44 Y. Ali |
Christ arose - and now lives! When He ascended into heaven, He did not leave His followers alone. He sent them the Holy Spirit. Why did God send the Holy Spirit according to the following verses? 1. John 14.26 HE will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you 2. John 16:7-14 "...it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will SEND HIM to you. The Holy Spirit Is A Person We might shirk that the Spirit is merely a power, a force, or an "it", when in fact, Scripture reveals that the Holy Spirit is a person. The Holy Spirit is a person in the same sense that God the Father is a person, and the Lord Jesus Christ is a person. 1. He Acts As A Person a. He teaches (John 14:26; 1 Corinthians 2:13) b. He testifies (John 15:26) c. He guides into all truth, He hears, speaks, shows ( John 16:13) d. He prays for us (Romans 8:26) The Holy Spirit Is God 1. The Holy Spirit possesses divine attributes. He knows all things ( 1 Corinthians 2:11-12) and one can never escape the presence of the Spirit, in other words, He is omnipresent ( Psalm 139:7, ![]() 2. The Holy Spirit is associated with the Father and the Son, and placed on the same level as they are. a. According to Matthew 28:19, the disciples must baptize in what names? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit b. Read Acts 5:1-6. According to verse 3, who did Ananias lie to ? Holy Spirit Then in verse 4, who is Ananias accused of lying to? God Both verses are referring to the same person - Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit who is God. c. According to John 4:24, what is God? God is spirit. |
RoyPCain:God is ONE with 3personalities. The holy spirit is not a active force. |
Empiree:o ye satan, do you think the holy spirit is a active force? If the spirit is a force, everyone can control the power. |
softapple:I don't believe you, holy communion is taken every last or first Sunday of the week. Say the truth and liveth now. |
RoyPCain:this verse answer your question; Genesis1:26 Then God said, "Let US make mankind in OUR IMAGE, in our likeness.... The words "us"and "our" indicate more than one person is talking and the word "image" indicate ONE GOD. If God is three the verse should say images and not image .our God is ONE with three personalities. And the book of 1john revealed the number of 'us' and 'our' genesis was talking about to be 3. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven... |
mustymatic:where in my post I say muslims don't believe in Jesus? I said "even the demon believe and tremble" Jesus advice us to have faith in Him and also said "he is the way to eternal life" none other prophet can say this, do muslims have faith in Jesus? I read your post in the Islamic section,I was ban there, ask your question here. |
davien:the bible encourage us to be certain in our faith in God and be fully convinced. I really want you to check this link, when will we have "the theory of everything" Physicists want to find a single theory that describes the entire universe. http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150409-can-science-ever-explain-everything |
An2elect2:and AMEN. Thank you my sister. |
true2god:we will keep on saying the truth until it sink in there system.the quran is nothing but the word of satan. |
Blazinraj01:it's your choice, believe or pass by. |
udatso:offcorse, you guys will not accepts, thank you for your time. |
Blazinraj01:muhammed is a man who is possessed by the devil to contradict the word of God, why will God waited for 600 years to send muhammed to say "they crucified him not? " what about thoes who died thinking Jesus is death, who gonna take the blame for there unbelief? Satan or Allah? Muhammed is very very confused, let me show you something here; Surah 4:157: And their saying: Surely we have KILLED THE MESSIAH, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. (Shakir) Why will the Jew killed the messiah? If you read this account in its entirety from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you will understand who they are that are saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think! Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the “Messiah” when they have rejected him as the Messiah? It must be remembered that the Jewish religious leaders even objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah – as this verse implies – would they have killed him? Whether they accept Jesus or not, the Jews will never make such a statement, sarcastically or otherwise, regarding the Messiah because the Messiah is a reverential figure for whom they waiting for deliverance. No Jews will boast that they have killed the Messiah. And the Jews are still devotedly waiting for the Messiah. If you chose to remain in this lies, it your choice, worship God or abandoned Him, God allow the tree of Good and evil to grow in the garden just for man to have two option(good and evil) , chose good and live. Thank you for your time. Good bye |
udatso:salvation is free. |
Blazinraj01:can you proved the lie in this? https://www.nairaland.com/2183400/inspired-muhammed https://www.nairaland.com/2121425/allahs-invalidate-own-revelation https://www.nairaland.com/2226270/jesus-son-manwho-father |
udatso:are you greater than your prophet who do cannot predict his afterlife? Or how he will die? |
Blazinraj01:what mission Jesus did not complete? This is the deception of satan, Jesus has already come and convict the world of sin , I wish you know the implications of saying Jesus did not die for your sin, there are many things you supposed to know, but the dark nature of muhammed had blinded you, even yusuf Ali in his footnote on surah19:33 say; " Christ was not crucified but thoes who believe Jesus never died should realy PONDER on this verse" This verse record Jesus prophesied his death; Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall) The chronological sequence of event here is understood,born,die and ressurected.but muslims scholar disorder it by saying this verse is indicating born,raised alive and die.this is pure satanic manipulation. But the same phrase is used in the verse of john the baptist; Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir) This is john the baptist talking about his death, will john also come back and die again? It is only Jesus that can deliver you guys from this satanic spell. |
udatso:give people medicine? Do you want to give what you don't have? |
Blazinraj01:Jesus is coming back to do what? What about Allah only prophet muhammed? |
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