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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 11:36am On Jan 09, 2015

timonski:
i am not a jew/christian, so that quote doesn't apply to me

it is the same God that created you. Love him or hate him, it's a choice.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 11:32am On Jan 09, 2015

timonski:
I am unaffiliated

bible say I will spewed thee out of my mouth becaused you were nither cold nor warm.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 11:26am On Jan 09, 2015

timonski:
^ you christians are just as confused as the atheists. Science confirms that the biblical god is just an alien, albeit a powerful one

what denominations are you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 11:23am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
What historical evidence supports Adam and Eve?

what the use of giving you a proof that you will still disagree? How many times atheists ask for proof and if I shere my personal encounter with them, they mock and insult me, why will I lied that I have seen the one that forbid me to lie? What the points?

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 8:56am On Jan 09, 2015

truthman2012:
False!!!

Igbo mythology is demonic deception.
When did Igboland come to existence? How did Amadioha create the Israelites, Egyptians who existed long before the Igbos? No doubt, the first man was not Ibo.

God bless you for this wonderful post.

Islam › Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 8:52am On Jan 09, 2015

frank317:
Shut up... Is that how to say thank u to someone who just schooled u? U have no shame.

His does not believe in the Bible yet he is here spoon feeding ur ignorance on what u, the believer, should know.

So what, if he does not believe? What's ur point? Did he feed u ignorance or not?

they say Islam is perfect,no doubts, a perfect religion should have a complete book. Did you care to ask him where he got the information that ishmael was 17years? Surly he got it from the bible.

The question you should have ask him is" why the information wasn't in the quran? You guys preferred to back a religion that will want you dead, but rain insult to Christians that will allow you to your belief, are you in support of the killing in France which are done by Muslims? Am very sure the demon that is controlling Islam that is what is controlling atheists.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:52am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
You quote a book edited for political purposes by men as the word of the so called God.

the bible used of 6BC are the same we used nowadays, do research.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:51am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
I am igbo and according to Igbo mythology. Amadioha created the universe and then the earth. He then created the first man named Nri.

When he was created Amadioha left him a tuber of yam and kolanut. This is why the Igbos break kola before any ceremony and perform 'iri ji' every year.

don't you think all this claimed would have been supported with historical evidence?

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:49am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
Please all religions do not lead to one God. The indians worship even cow, so does a cow lead to Yaweh?

that is the points am making bro, read the thread and be enlightened. All religion cannot lead to God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:47am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
It's stupidity worshiping a thing that doesn't exist.

It's that simple. I don't have any need for a God.

it a choice you believe or you reject,Christianity is not a blind faith.

◄ Ecclesiastes 12:1 ►
New International Version
Remember your Creator in the days of
your youth, before the days of trouble
come and the years approach when you
will say, "I find no pleasure in them"--

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
Every worshipper claims his or her God is the supreme being, that is why religion is so divisive and destructive.

My grandparents, great grandparents and had gods before the white men brought the Jewish God.

Even the same Europeans have done away with the retrogressive believe in gods yet africans still hold fast to religion.

With all the God worshiping you will think Nigeria would have been better that Europe and America.

Read this thread and ask your question.
https://www.nairaland.com/1999485/all-religions-lead-god-one

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:41am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
Every worshipper claims his or her God is the supreme being, that is why religion is so divisive and destructive.

My grandparents, great grandparents and had gods before the white men brought the Jewish God.

Even the same Europeans have done away with the retrogressive believe in gods yet africans still hold fast to religion.

With all the God worshiping you will think Nigeria would have been better that Europe and America.

quote the claimed from this gods that say they are the creator of this universe.

Christianity Etc › Re: Athiest Claim: If God Existed, Prayer Would Have Brought World Peace? by malvisguy212(op): 7:12am On Jan 09, 2015

malvisguy212:
God grants prayers done in the "name of Jesus." "And whatever
you ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son." (John 14:13) This does not mean that all prayers ending in
the words "in Jesus name" will be granted - but only those that
glorify the Father.sadly, in a world were people's are to make Spiritual
choices causes world division,not everyone will agree with your spiritual the choice you make.they wont glorified the father.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Evil - Does The Bible Say So? by malvisguy212(op): 7:10am On Jan 09, 2015

malvisguy212:
ok, it a choice' you believe or you reject. Thank you for your time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 6:04am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
Who created this Christian God?

if we answer this question by saying something created God, you will still ask "who created the something that created God, the question continue in a cycle, it senseless .

If you don't worship God when you are young, is it when you became 60years that is when you will worship him? When life is no more fun.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 5:57am On Jan 09, 2015

GeneralShepherd:
You are using a book written by cavemen and edited by the Roman empire to argue about the existence of God.

Firstly the bible lacks credibility.

Secondly why Yaweh? What if Amadioha, Allah,Krishna, or the other gods created the universe and Yahweh?

non of this gods stand in a better position to be called the supreme God.

Pleased compare the bible in the 6th century and the present day bible google it and see for your self.the new testament we have today is at least least 99.5% accurate to the original. No
change. (The .5% differences refer to spelling, but no change in meaning.).

When Islam began in the 6th century,
600 years after Jesus Christ, the Bible
was accepted as true. So, you might ask, has the Bible changed since the 6th century? No. All you have to
do is. compare today's Bible with a Bible
written long ago.
We can find complete Bibles, all the way
back to 300 A.D., hundreds of years
before the Quran. You can find one in
the London Museum, in the Vatican, and
many other places. If you compare
today's Bible with the Bibles of 300 A.D.,
the Bible we have today is the same as
then.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:52pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
Christianity doesn't need anything or anyone to make it contradict itself it does that perfectly all by itself. Proof: God is supposedly all knowing and knows what you are going to do before you know yourself. If that is true why didn't he know that Lucifer was going to try to overthrow Him and "bring" evil? A rational being with that knowledge would have prevented that from happening by either not creating Lucifer or stopping him somehow before hand. God is claimed to be loving and forgiving yet he loves punishing people and destroying cities in the bible. That's neither loving or forgiving.

lucifer was created with one of the finest material;

Ezekiel 28:12–15
12 “Son of man, araise a lamentation
over bthe king of Tyre, and say to him,
Thus says the Lord God:
“You were the signet of perfection,1
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of
God;
fevery precious stone was your covering,
sardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,2 femerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed guardian
cherub.
I placed you; you were on the holy
mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you
walked.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created,
till UNRIGHTEOUSNESS was found in you.

How did unrighteousness found in satan? Notice the word "I WILL"in the verse bellow;

Isaiah 14:12–15
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, eson of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!
13 You said in your heart,
I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
in the far reaches of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the
clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15 But you are brought down to Sheol,
to the far reaches of the pit.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:36pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
Next time start from the top of the conversation not the middle else you'll always catch the wrong end of the stick as you have done now.

when you made this post
"I never said anything caused God"

What are you trying to say here?

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:28pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
I never said that either. What I said is there is no proof of God's existence and the faith and the bible are not proof

you can twist your earlier coment you made, no problem bro, the truth is this , there is God.

Christianity is not a blind faith.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:23pm On Jan 08, 2015

Another reason for rejecting God
(choosing atheism), is a willing
acceptance of satanic deception.

The angel Lucifer fell and became Satan (“adversary”) due to his desire to supplant God.
This was Lucifer’s single-minded obsession. He not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the
garden’?” And the woman said to the
serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the
trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You
shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the
serpent said to the woman, “You will not
surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:1-5 ESV).

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s
statements and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality with God.

This manifests in atheists as
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first place, so
God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly
to atheists as it bolsters two of their
desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy —being free to do as they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate accountability—there are no eternal consequences for doing as they please.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 10:05pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
Either you missed the point or you just jumped in without reading the beginning.

your earlier coment indicate , nothing caused God, in other word, God is the first caused.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 9:43pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
I never said anything caused God.

ok. Thank you for your time. God is the FIRST CAUSED.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 9:40pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
What? How can I disobey something I don't even believe exists?

but you BELIEVE the thing caused God. So He exist.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 8:06pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
I already said no, I don't see reason to worship anything. For what good reason? If my parents asked me to worship them that would make sense because they do things for me and it would be like payback. But now for me to worship something that only exists in my mind and does nothing for me makes absolutely no sense.

in other word, you see no reason of worshipping the cause that caused god , but he exist because you argued for it. IT MEAN YOU ARE DISOBEYING THE CAUSE THAT CAUSED gOD.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 8:00pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
You haven't answered me. If God is part of the universe and the universe has a cause then what caused God?

Genesis1:1
" in the beginning God created the heaven and earth"

The universe were created together with time,God is the caused, God is not bound by our understanding of time.

...since God coexists with the world
and in the world there is change,
surely there is a case for saying that
God continues to exist for an endless
time, rather than that he is timeless.
In general that which remains the
same while other things change is not
said to be outside time, but to
continue through time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:46pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
No. Why should I worship anything? Do you worship your parents? They created you. Do you wake up and pray to them, sing praises to them? Do they require that of you or are they just happy to see you healthy and happy and ask for nothing back except for you to do your best and be happy?

we are not talking about the seen ,we are talking about the supernatural,you and I know that our parents are human, but God is a spirit,the atheists argument is "something made God (spirit)". Will you worship this thing? And the next question is this " what made the thing that made God " this is senseless.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 7:00pm On Jan 08, 2015

DieeDiee:
Same thing that created the singularity talked about in the bible. Remember you said it includes God so you can't use God as a cop out

ok bro, I want to ask you a question;

Assuming you are right,something caused god, what next? Will you worship this thing that caused god? Or will you continue to ask the same question, what causes the thing that caused god?

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 6:42pm On Jan 08, 2015

davien:
Again,special pleading...

falsified my claimed and see were it will lead you to. Satan is really working hard on you guys.

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Islam › Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 6:36pm On Jan 08, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Using question to answer question, is that what they thought in you in school? oh! sorry, i have forgotten that you have'nt written your O'levels .

See enh, if you are writing your WAEC, you are expected to answer questions and not to question the questions given to you. If you don't have answer to questions, you either skip it or write 'i don't avan idea' hehehe

so the quran never give the complete information about ishmael and his mother? It is the corrupt bible that educate you. Ok thanks for your insult.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 6:32pm On Jan 08, 2015

davien:
This is circular reasoning because you can't use the bible to prove anything about what it already claims.....it's like using a Harry potter novel to prove hogwards is a real place

yes there are law of physics and time,something cannot came out from no where,scientists can say something must have caused God(which is wrong) but the problems with this scientists is that they don't understand the nature of God, science can't explained God.I believe God is not bound by our understanding of time, why did I say this? Because there are lot of prophecy in the bible that the prophet use present tens example isaiah say "a child IS given" he use present tens.

God is the sole exception to these laws because he is a supernatural being instead of a natural one: he is invisible and immaterial, and his existence does not depend on, nor is it tied to, the existence of our physical world. What holds true of the natural and material does not necessarily hold true of the supernatural and immaterial (and vice versa).
Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Proof That God Exists: For Atheists by malvisguy212: 6:16pm On Jan 08, 2015

davien:
Now can you see the special pleading?

there are many verse in the bible that indicate that God was acting before time begin.

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Islam › Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 6:14pm On Jan 08, 2015

Rilwayne001:
hehehehehehehe abeggg moses, go and sleep.

How can an old woman back a 17years old boy?

let me ask you a question.

The quran mention the name of ishmael mother? I really want you to quote the quranic account.

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