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SalC:
God bless you too, all we need to do is to always pray for such people who are being persecuted for their faith and always speak against so ill treatment of christians in muslim dominated country.

SalC:
I really pity this Saeed guy who has been in detention for years now and his only crime was his conversion to christianity. I pray God to strengthen him and the Iranian government should stop detaining and torturing people for leaving Islam.

http://mohabatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5972:iranian-american-pastor-arrested-imprisoned-in-evin-prison&catid=36:iranian-christians&Itemid=279

ShakurM:
What can we learn from this biko?

dd12345:
@davien there is no confusion in christianity except you are reading the scripture with a carnal mind. and besides, this is God way by which he want to redeem Man...not Man's own way...not Man's own idea...

1ord:
All you listed here is exactly what the Israelites did under the name of yaweh. CARE TO EXPLAIN?

tola9ja:
NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS
God sent his prophet to the people,but the people can't meet the righteousness GOD want. So God dwell in the flash,delivers the message of God

UR DOCTRINE OPPOSE WHAT IS INSIDE THE BIBLE

GOD IS NOT A MAN

JESUS IS A MAN

Rilwon:
Lol! sometimes one have to allow fo0lish people think they are wise, don't you think? hehe.

Common sense they say is'nt common my chief.

Like your demented brother truthman will say "tough question muslim can never answer" lol.

alaimokan

lilcutie8916:
yes by performing worldwide genocide on their asses, how loving and kind, I am truely touched

Empiree:
I'm not really interested talking to you. I see tola9ja and rilwayne01 dealt with you a million times. I'm not here for that. This is not your area of expertise.Sorry, darling.

Empiree:
What do you mean by they invoke Muhammad(Allah's blessing be upon him and his family)? Sending greeting and salutation on this great prophet is commanded in the Quran 33:56. It's not worship of him. It's asking God to send peace and salutation on him. Dont know what you thinking.

What exactly those people say?.

No, it not like prayer will not be accepted. I think you need to upgrade your iman on this subject.... very weak usermane, very weak.

Rilwon:
Jesus lived the life of a muslim during his time, he was a submitter to the will of God/Allah.

lilcutie8916:
If the reason for Gods destruction of the world during the flood was because of man's sin, then why allow man to survive since we were still going to continue in this sin or even be worse than before. Don't u think it was all just pointless? genesis said that man sin was too much so god had to destroy the world and leave just one holy family to re seed the earth. i am sure with gods infinity he should have know we would just go right back to the reason why he destroyed us in the first place. so my question is what was the point.

plaetton:
@op
Big Lol.

Pls, in the eyes of a perfect omni omni god, what is the difference between GOOD and PERFECT?

Still laughing out loud.

Now, are you saying that god can make something and pronounce it good, but under closer scrutiny that thing would not be perfect ?

He he he he he

I am glad that you said it , and not me.

truthman2012:
Only prayers that glorify the Father.

Nice one.

tola9ja:
you try but i can never accept this



the greatest fabrication i will ever come across unless you can provide a clear scriptural evidence


Isaiah 42:8English Standard Version (ESV)

8 I am the Lord; that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to carved idols

sameera025:
The only reason why I'm am answering this post is to clarify this to others who may read your post and think you make sense. Your behavior and the way you conduct your conversations do not deserve my acknowledgment. You are here to represent your religion yet you do not do so in commendable manner. Telling a religious person they worship the devil. Your actions don't in any way reflect the character of Jesus who you look up to.

Yes, Islam denies the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. Muslims believe that God rescued Jesus from the schemes of the unbelievers and raised Christ to heaven. The general Islamic view is that someone else was crucified in Jesus' place, Judas Iscariot was the one whom the unbelievers killed.

Judas was made to look like Jesus on the night when Christ was to be crucified. The unbelieving Jews thought that they had crucified Christ when in reality it was Judas that they had killed.

Why give the enemy the power of killing Jesus? Wouldn't that be them winning? Were they acting in the way of God by helping God kill him for his sins. No, they were killing him for the faith he was spreading. When they killed him, was he dying for the sins of the jews who brutaly crucified him as well?

If anything, Islam does more justice to Jesus for not giving the enemy the satisfaction of having killing someone so special as the messenger of God. Jesus had the last laugh.

There is no false religion for where you believe the messengers before Jesus did not know of Jesus as Jesus but as the father that know one has told me about yet, We believe all the messengers worshiped and spread the message of the same, one Almighty God from the beginning.

nnenneigbo:
you know he's a muslim, 100%

malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?

sameera025:
So if he always existed, that means all the messengers before him should have worshiped and known him and preached about him since you have now acknowledged the trinity always existed. He felt forsaken by the father that is still himself. I still haven't heard anything about the father though.

sameera025:
So you are saying God made a son, the son he made is still himself. So he made another one of himself, turned jesus/himself into a man, then turned his back on himself/son, broke the union between himself and made himself/Jesus pay for the sins of the people he created. And finally his son/himself felt forsaken by God/himself. Can we also conclude and say a man God died for the sins of people? But God can't actually die can he? Correct me where I am wrong.

tola9ja:
NEW QUESTION


WHY DID CHRISTIANS HAVE MANY VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE AND SOME CONTAIN 66 CHAPTERS SOME 77 WHICH 1 SHOULD WE ACCEPT AS THE WORD OF GOD BETWEEN THE TWO

tola9ja:
3 HE IS REFERRING TO THE CREATOR OF THE WORLD
, JESUS IS A SERVANT THAT SERVE THE CREATOR OF THE WORLD {GOD}

. 4 I glorified you on earth, having

accomplished the work that you gave me to do.


THE CREATOR OF JESUS IS SPEAKING HERE

Isaiah 42:8English Standard Version (ESV)

8 I am the Lord; that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to carved idols.


malvisguy212 NO FABRICATION LET US BE SINCERE IN THESE CONVERSATION

frank317:
Pls which one is universal sin and which one is individual sin?

Is universal sin committed by the universe? And individual sin committed by humans?

Explain biko

tola9ja:
I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU

Job 7:9English Standard Version (ESV)

9 As the cloud fades and vanishes,
so he who goes down to Sheol does not come up


Hebrews 9:27English Standard Version (ESV)

27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

tola9ja:
John 17:3-4English Standard Version (ESV)

3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do.



Isaiah 42:8English Standard Version (ESV)

8 I am the Lord; that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to carved idols.

tola9ja:
YES

Hebrews 9:27English Standard Version (ESV)

27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

tola9ja:
YOUR DOCTRINE OPPOSE WHAT INSIDE THE BIBLE



Numbers 23:19King James Version (KJV)

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?





Job 25:4King James Version (KJV)

4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

tola9ja:
BUT HE SAID HIS FATHER IS GRATER THAN HIM THAT MEANS HE REFER TO SOMEONE CAN HE REFER TO HIMSELF ?