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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Let Us Discuss Christianity. by malvisguy212: 10:10pm On Sep 19, 2014
somthing is not right here, i add a bible verse but the verse was mysteriously remove, i modify it almost two times still the same thing. May God help us.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Let Us Discuss Christianity. by malvisguy212: 10:04pm On Sep 19, 2014
Les: Each time i try to renounce christianity, God does something to bring me back to my senses. I woulda dumped christianity if i haven't seen supernatural things happen. GOD IS REal, BELIEVE!
be strong in they Lord,lady, God is removing the crop from the weed, God say"before i created you , i know you from your mother womb" God know the out come of this atheist before they were born,am not sadden by this,just one advice. No mather what you read on
the internet about christianity,DONT BELIEVE IN IT, LET YOUR BIBLE BE
YOUR GUID, THE BIBLE CANNOT ADVICE' YOU TO DO WRONG, AS LONG AS
THE CHILDREN OF GOD IS CONCERN, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE ENEMIES.


James john and peter were giving the preview of Christ second coming,the verse start like this AFTER 6DAYS JESUS TOOK JAMES,JOHN AND PETER,WHAT DOS THIS MEAN? 6DAYS IS LIKE 6THOUSAND YEARYS TO GOD(2ND PETER3:cool GOD DECLEAR THE END FROM THE BEGINING(ISSAIAH 46;3) FROM ADAM TO THE FIRST COMING OF CHRIST IS 4000YEARS,FROM THE NEW TESTEMENT CHURCH TILL TODAY IS 2000YEARS, ALL TOGETHER IS 6000 YEARS.SO.............AFTER 6DAYS(6000YEARS) JESUS TOOK JAMES,JOHN AND PETER( TOOK THE SAINT,RAPTURE). Are you ready to be amoung the saint? Confess jesus. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 9:31pm On Sep 19, 2014
tola9ja:
Surat 'Āli `Imrān (Family of Imran) - سورة آل عمران

3:59
Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
this book is for people like you.


Isaiah 6 New International Version (NIV) Isaiah’s Commission.
6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they
covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two
they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory.” 4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke. 5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the
King, the Lord Almighty.” 6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken
away and your sin atoned for.” 8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!” 9 He said, “Go and tell this people: “‘Be ever hearing, but never UNDERSTANDING
be ever seeing, but never PERCIVING’ 10 Make the heart of this people CALLOUSED,
make their ears DULL
and CLOSE their EYES[a] Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.” 11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?” And he answered: “Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged, 12 until the Lord has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 9:23pm On Sep 19, 2014
tola9ja: you dont even no your Scripture we are trying to educate you through your scripture and still proof ignorance
my advice to you it to do a lot of research moreover you have already see a lot of evidence but that veil of darkness is covering your face




Surat At-Takāthur (The Rivalry in world increase) - سورة التكاثر
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Then no! You are going to know.
102:5

No! If you only knew with knowledge of certainty...
102:6

You will surely see the Hellfire.
102:7

Then you will surely see it with the eye of certainty.
102:8

my friend dont wait to see the hell fire before you believe in what all prophet practice including jesus
SUBUHANA ROBIKA
you have no idea who you are dealing with. Good night.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 9:13pm On Sep 19, 2014
tola9ja:
Surat 'Āli `Imrān (Family of Imran) - سورة آل عمران

3:59
Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
your problem is that you dont understand anytin.thhe verse you quote say EXAMPLE, dont you know the meaning of example? Or when quran say jesus is the spirit of God, what dos it mean?


God breath his spirit on adam, this mean adam is son of God, but when satan descive adam, he lost the nature of Godliness in him.that is why you need to confess jesus as your saviour to adopt back the nature of godliness,if you confess him now, you will be as a man(adam) from the begining, you will be called son's of God.JESUS IS THE ONLY MAN THAT WALK ON EARTH SINLESS, HE IS OUR ONLY OPTION, THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.


But muhammad case is differnce, satan even possessed him to say somthing God did not commanded'him to say. The satanic verse.
Surah 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all
prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic
verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah
abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his
prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such
demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts. Now if Muhammad was unable to distinguish between Satan's voice
and God's, then how do Muslims know if the entire Quran is not from
Satan himself? Maybe all of the Quran is Satanic in origin, in spite of
Muhammad's conviction that it was entirely from Allah.

According to deutoronomy, that prophet shall die
deutorunomy 18:20
" But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not
commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to
be put to death."

behold the same muhammad die of poison and surah 19:71 say he is in hell.
Islam › Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:14pm On Sep 19, 2014
boykas: you said on christians and jews.....Remember.. which people,,is it not the same people that that wage war in His home town and send him and out until he bow to the idol they worship..please read about Him before making a false accusation on Him.He wage war on idol worshipers...get a life and stop lieing
Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw
how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see
them
shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he
longed
in his soul that something would come to him from God which would
reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his
eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of
the difficulties which they made for him could have been
smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired
such an outcome. Then God revealed 171)
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..." and when he
came to the words: Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and
Manat, the third, the
other? Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he
desired to bring to his people, the words: "These are the high flying
cranes; verily their intercession is accepted
with approval.
(172) When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and
delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their
prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did
not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake. When he came to the
prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and
the Muslims did likewise, following their prophet, trusting in the
message which he had brought and following his example.the pagans even prostrate with him.this development was so pleasant
to the quraysh that some people say the quraysh has accepted
islam.
Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said,
"Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people
that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you." Then the messenger of God was much
grieved and feared God greatly, but God sent down a revelation to
him, for He was merciful to him, consoling him and making the
matter light for him, informing him that there had never been a
prophet or a messenger before him who desired as he desired and
wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue. Then God
cancelled
what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses by telling him
that he was like other prophets and messengers, and revealed:
"Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you but that
when he recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation (umniyyah). God abrogates what Satan casts. The God established
his
verses. God is knower, wise. (174) Thus God removed the sorrow
from his messenger, reassured him
about that which he had feared and cancelled the words which
Satan had cast on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes
whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed,
following the mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other," the words: "Are yours the males and his the females? That
indeed were an unfair
division! They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers." to the words: to whom he wills and accept (175) This
means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God?
When Muhammad brought a revelation from God canceling what
Satan had cast on the tongue of His prophet, the Quraysh
said,"Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the position of your gods with God, and has altered it and brought
something else." Those two phrases which Satan had cast on the
tongue of the Messenger of God were in the mouth of every
polytheists, and they became even more ill-disposed and more
violent in their persecution of those of them who had accepted
Islam and followed the messenger of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by malvisguy212: 8:08pm On Sep 19, 2014
FrancisTony: I am sorry. embarassed
am not sadden by this,just one advice. No mather what you read on the internet about christianity,DONT BELIEVE IN IT, LET YOUR BIBLE BE YOUR GUID, THE BIBLE CANNOT ADVICE' YOU TO DO WRONG, AS LONG AS THE CHILDREN OF GOD IS CONCERN, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE ENEMIES.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by malvisguy212: 6:33pm On Sep 19, 2014
FrancisTony: How?




I used to follow it before but I've stopped(lol, mynd44 can testify).

I only visit this thread and Catholic chat thread.
correct me.

That you love some part of the bible mean you hate some part.right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Atheist? by malvisguy212: 6:31pm On Sep 19, 2014
MissMeiya: Um. Who the fúck are you?
ok. You dont believe in spirit or charm and even juju.

Last year christmas,my friend a calabar boy take me to calabar carnival,
that was december 1st, but before we reach, we decide to branch his
village and spend three days, not knowing that there is war with the
neighbouring village,let me go straight to the point.....the young men
in the village went to the farm when the enemy invade there houses burn it down, news reach the boys in the farm that the enemy are
burning there houses, all the boys at the farm go straight to the village
habalist, the habalist bath them in a very dirty water give them a
calabash as neckless on there neck, the boys line up, they match
straight to there village were the enemy are burning there houses, a
little boy of about 7years was at the front holding a broom, as the enemy is shooting there gun, the little boy immediately start waving
the broom, all the bullet were just flying away the arrows stop in
there front, NOTHIN HARM THEM, I was just standing far distance
watching, I was Soooo surprise,that was the first time I saw human
bein eat human,some will use the oil from human put it on a wine and
drink it.the next morning, I did not even tell my friend I was goin, the guy just here phone call, hellow,"guy na me moses" he ask me, were
you dey nah? I say, I dey kd o. The guy was just laughing.


What is the force behind dream? Ape evolve to man and it end there, why is it not a continues process? You read it on a book and believe it witout concreat prove, THE BIBLE EXPLAIN EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LIFE BUT FOR THE SAKE OF FREEING YOUR SELF FROM SIN, YOU DENOUNC GOD......GUES WHAT? AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT CREATE YOUR SELF, YOU WILL STILL FACE JUDGMENT, JUST ONE SIMPLE ADVIC........DONT DIE, STAY ALIVE MABY TOMMOROW YOU WILL REPENT.
Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by malvisguy212: 6:04pm On Sep 19, 2014
FrancisTony: love some part of bible. :-
this word draw my attension, what is opposite of this statment?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 5:55pm On Sep 19, 2014
NifemiOlu: Honestly, I see no reason why Christians should be arguing with them. You can't understand the bible with head knowledge. That's why the first step is accepting Christ, the Holy Spirit comes into your life and teaches, opens your eyes to the true word of God. Till tomorrow, they will always see the bible as contradictory when as a matter of fact it's 100% perfect.
Lastly, their major issue is the OT...I've always said it to them: "keep reading it to your ruins". Christians live by the grace of God and are children of God.
Everything happening today has already been outlined by Jesus...earthquakes, nations rising against nations etc. yet he's not real. Moreso, a religion came 600years after the other...I laugh.
thank you for your contribution. May God bless you my friend.
Islam › Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 4:49pm On Sep 19, 2014
Abdulsalam20: SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE IS VERY WORST

LEVITICUS 25:44-46
HOWEVER, YOU MAY PURCHASE MALE OR FEMALE SLAVES FROM
AMONG THE FOREIGNERS WHO LIVE AMONG YOU. YOU MAY ALSO
PURCHASE THE CHILDREN OF SUCH RESIDENT FOREIGNERS,
INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BORN IN YOUR LAND. YOU
MAY TREAT THEM AS YOUR PROPERTY, PASSING THEM ON TO YOUR
CHILDREN AS A PERMANENT INHERITANCE. YOU MAY TREAT YOUR
SLAVES LIKE THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, YOUR RELATIVES,
MUST NEVER BE TREATED THIS WAY .
THIS IS HOW CHRISTIANS MADE IT OKAY FOR
SLAVERY, THEYRE BIBLE ALLOWS IT, SO WHY SHOULDNT
THEY DO IT? THEY ARE JUST DOING WHAT THEYRE
BOOK ALLOWS THEM TO DO.
EXODUS 21:7-11
WHEN A MAN SELLS HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, SHE WILL NOT BE
FREED AT THE END OF SIX YEARS AS THE MEN ARE. IF SHE DOES
NOT PLEASE THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER, HE MAY ALLOW HER TO
BE BOUGHT BACK AGAIN. BUT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SELL HER TO
FOREIGNERS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE WHO BROKE THE CONTRACT WITH
HER. AND IF THE SLAVE GIRL'S OWNER ARRANGES FOR HER TO
MARRY HIS SON, HE MAY NO LONGER TREAT HER AS A SLAVE GIRL,
BUT HE MUST TREAT HER AS HIS DAUGHTER. IF HE HIMSELF
MARRIES HER AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, HE MAY NOT
REDUCE HER FOOD OR CLOTHING OR FAIL TO SLEEP WITH HER AS HIS
WIFE. IF HE FAILS IN ANY OF THESE THREE WAYS, SHE MAY LEAVE
AS A FREE WOMAN WITHOUT MAKING ANY PAYMENT.
THIS IS A SEX SLAVE. IF SHE DOESNT PLEASE THE
MASTER? HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TO PLEASE HIM?
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE SEX TRADE IS SO POPULAR
IN EUROPE AND CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES, BECAUSE
THEIR BOOK ALLOWS IT! THEY ARE MERELY DOING
WHAT THEIR BOOK ALLOWS.
EXODUS 21:20-21
WHEN A MAN STRIKES HIS MALE OR FEMALE SLAVE WITH A ROD SO
HARD THAT THE SLAVE DIES UNDER HIS HAND, HE SHALL BE
PUNISHED. IF, HOWEVER, THE SLAVE SURVIVES FOR A DAY OR TWO,
HE IS NOT TO BE PUNISHED, SINCE THE SLAVE IS HIS OWN
PROPERTY
SO YOU CAN BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SLAVE AS
LONG AS THE SLAVE DOES NOT DIE, THIS IS STRAIGHT
FROM THE BIBLE. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?
And if a man sells his daughter to be a
female slave, she shall not go out as the
male slaves do. If she does not please
her master, who has betrothed her to
himself, then he shall let her be
redeemed. He shall have no right to sell
her to a foreign people, since he has
dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has
betrothed her to his son, he shall deal
with her according to the custom of
daughters. If he takes another wife, he
shall not diminish her food, her
clothing, and her marriage rights.
— Exodus 21
i have answer this qustion before but you keep on reapeating it.in the old testament the people live by the law and whe you break it, you will pay accordingly, but now we are save by his grace, what is grace?grace is unmarited favour from God, i do not deserve to be save but by his(jesus) grace am save. You guys in the arab live by the law denying the grace of God.moerover were in the new testament we are encourage to own a slave? But quran say slave is a gift from allah the girls are called booty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 4:37pm On Sep 19, 2014
Rilwayne001: SMDH

olodo oshi buruku...
please please please
Dont quote me again, since it is obvious that you dont know the scripture.


gaddam Reprobate grin undecided angry
abusive that the spirit of islam. I prove you wrong and you have nothing to say, the only thing you got is insult. The carnalminded man cant understand the deep things of God, to him it is foolishness .
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 3:27pm On Sep 19, 2014
Rilwayne001: You do err not knowing scriptures undecided

But this same buybull says in Job.

Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? [size=15pt] or how can he be clean that is born of a woman ? [/size]…

This buybull verse was saying anybody born of a woman is not clean - Yes or Nohuh

Jesus was born of a woman - Yes or Nohuh

And dont forget that

"God is not a man , that He should sin. And God is not the son of man , that He should repent" [Numbers 23:19 ]
trash , Go and ask God to open your understanding, cant you see how satan is confusing you guys? Yesterday i post a coment in the islamic section, everything i post was directly from the quran and hadith i even post some tafsir to support my claim, you brother deleted it and ban me. Is just so sad realy sad. I pray God heal you guys in jesus name.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 3:23pm On Sep 19, 2014
Rilwayne001: [size=15pt] "God is not a man , that He should sin. And God is not the son of man , that He should repent" [/size] [Numbers 23:19 ]

* God is not a man.

* God is not a son of man

* God does not repent (whereas we have the same buybull telling us that God repent in some verse shocked shocked SMdh)

Jesus

* Jesus was a man

* Jesus was born by a human being (mary) i.e he was born of man
you guys are sooooo spiritualy blind, witout understanding.


Numbers 23:19. God is not a man That he should lie means — Break his promise made to his people for their preservation and benediction. Neither the son of man
that he should repent — Change his counsels or purposes, as men
change theirs, either because they are not able to execute them, or
because they are better informed, or their minds are changed by some
unexpected occurrence, or by their passions, none of which things have
place in God. When the inspired writers speak of God’s repenting, as


only God can heal this satanic manipulation in you guys.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 3:00pm On Sep 19, 2014
tola9ja: ok what of adam and eve without father without mother
adam was the first man eve was the first woman, there case is difference, somewhere somehow, human must begin like that, moreover satan make man to fall.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 2:57pm On Sep 19, 2014
Rilwayne001: Please refer to my first quote.

* Jesus was a man - yes or no

* Jesus was born of man - yes or no
jesus was a man because he dwell a flash,when you die,your flash dosent count, it was that breath God breath in you that mather, the breath will reaturn back to God for judgment,because from the begining satan corrupted it, that why you need jesus to make you whole(pure) BUT IN THE CASE OF JESUS, HE WAS SINLESS, ONLY GOD CAN WALK THE EARTH SINLESS.
Christianity Etc › Re: End OF Days[end OF The Harvest] by malvisguy212(op): 2:48pm On Sep 19, 2014
Asiwaju9ja: . Brother, please where is is post on my thread: What the Quran says about Jesus Christ and Mary.

I want settle down read am yesterday couldn't find it. What happened?
my good friend, they hide my post and ban me till march 2015, everything i post was directly from the quran. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Creator Of The World Have Son? Let The Bible And Quran Speak by malvisguy212: 10:39pm On Sep 18, 2014
Rilwayne001: (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/begotten

My question now is Do you thing it befit an Almighty God to Procreate an offspring?

Lets Start from here
why not. A man born of the spirit of God, who will be his father?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 10:35pm On Sep 18, 2014
kimond101: You didn't answer my previous question tho'

I am not an Imam neither am I a sheik but I am a guy who tries to seek knowledge about what the truth is. There isn't mistake in what God reveals. And God hasn't created mankind or jinnkind except to worship him.

God is not weak. That is why he has sent down the Quran that cannot be corrupted by any man. And I believe in everything God has revealed. It is now your option to decide whether to accept the truth or not.

If you want more debate: you can research online or read a Quran with an open mind.

We can talk on and on about this matter but the truth still stands God that created you is the God that created me and everything in this world. He doesn't have partner neither does he get tired. He does as he wills by his power and majesty and degrees as he wants by his honour.

May God forgive me for any mistake I made in typing.

To you is your religion, to me is mine. Its been a pleasure deliberating with you sir. May God guide us all to the straight path and make us inmates of paradise.

I'm out of this thread.

Peace.
i respect your belief, i ask you qustion but honestly i do not ask for answer because deep inside you, you know the answer.i have many reaason not to believe in muhammad, aparet from all the prophet, his lifstyl is diff from them.

In the quran all promise the christians heaven , now if the christians gospel is capable of taking us to heaven, no need for the quran.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 10:27pm On Sep 18, 2014
kimond101: I wouldn't even have replied you but what i'll say is Get a Quran and read the english translation. When you finish reading it you can tell me with certainty what the Quran says. Each verse was revealed for a reason. You can also read the Tafseer( Literal meaning / Origination of the Quran).

The behaviour of some evil muslims doesn't mean that they are behaving in line with what Islam preaches.

I am a muslim and most of my friends are christian. It is the family you get born into that converts you to whatever faith you are today but conviction that make you realise that only God deserves to be worshipped.

Religious intolerance is an issue we need to address. Saying your fellow man would go to hell simply because they don't share the same believe as you is a judgement too big for you to say. And I know weather you are born again or not in your believe, it's only God that can decide who can enter paradise. Religious intolerance is what we are facing in Nigeria. And satan has taken advantage of it to make people perpetrate evil acts. Only people that worship God alone without ascribing partners can enter paradise don't be decieved.
yes every verse wer reavel for reason.


- Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them
shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he longed
in his soul that something would come to him from God which would
reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his
eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of
the difficulties which they made for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired such an
outcome. Then God revealedsad171)


"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..." and when he came to the words: Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other? Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he
desired to bring to his people, the words: "These are the high flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted
with approval.


(172) When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and
delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they
listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their
prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did
not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake. When he came to the
prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and the Muslims did likewise, following their prophet, trusting in the
message which he had brought and following his example.the pagans even prostrate with him.this development was so pleasant to the quraysh that some people say the quraysh has accepted islam.


Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said,
"Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people
that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you." Then the messenger of God was much
grieved and feared God greatly, but God sent down a revelation to
him, for He was merciful to him, consoling him and making the
matter light for him, informing him that there had never been a
prophet or a messenger before him who desired as he desired and
wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue. Then God cancelled
what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses by telling him
that he was like other prophets and messengers, and revealed: "Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you but that
when he recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation
(umniyyah). God abrogates what Satan casts. The God established his
verses. God is knower, wise. (174) Thus God removed the sorrow from his messenger, reassured him
about that which he had feared and cancelled the words which Satan
had cast on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes
whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed,
following the mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other," the words: "Are yours the males and his the females? That indeed were an unfair
division! They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers." to the words: to whom he wills and accept (175) This means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God? When Muhammad brought a revelation from God canceling what
Satan had cast on the tongue of His prophet, the Quraysh
said,"Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the
position of your gods with God, and has altered it and brought
something else." Those two phrases which Satan had cast on the
tongue of the Messenger of God were in the mouth of every polytheists, and they became even more ill-disposed and more
violent in their persecution of those of them who had accepted Islam
and followed the messenger of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 9:55pm On Sep 18, 2014
kimond101: The gospel of Jesus is the truth cause Jesus never lie. And I believe in his gospel. Jesus spoke a language when he was on earth. And the pure language Jesus spoke to convey his message is different from reading the translations that you don't have the original text. That is why when you see a Quran it has Arabic and English. Arabic is the revelation while English is Translation which may vary depending on the readers comprehension of the text.
You ask me to show you the gospel is the reason why God sent the Quran. Because you are the one meant to show me the pure Gospel of Jesus in its original form which you then generate all the literal meanings you have in the Bible today. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the Bible is 100% wrong but what I say is the bible has been diluted with the word of man aswell and word of God. And that is why there are different versions with different meanings. So what I believe in is the Gospel and other messages of previous messangers.
Permit me to use question to answer the question you asked. Jesus who is a word of God with a mother and no father doesn't mean God is his father. Same way Adam was a word of God doesn't mean God is his father and mother? As I explained earlier : God created Adam from nothing (Clay), Eve from Adam(Man), Jesus from Mary (Woman) and you and I from our parents (Man and Woman). Its a display of the power of God and what he's capable of doing. He owns us all and he can decide whatever wonder he wants wih us.
you guys say Allah send down the quran from heaven, which mean it supposed to be 100% accurate,but there are a lot of error in it(i will post it at your command) ,God cannot make this type of mistake,this is the truth, God inspire the men to write his word 2nd timothy 3:16.

I believe in the gospel in the bible, but you dont, so you are the one to show me the gospel you believe in

you are still saying the same thing bro, men dilute the gospel mean allah did not protect his word he give to jesus,this mean allah is weak.
Islam › Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:45pm On Sep 18, 2014
Kingharzyz: Derailed
you ask for proved and i give it to you,is this what you called derailed? You have no answer to it. LET IT BE SEALED IN YOUR HEART.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 8:38pm On Sep 18, 2014
kimond101: Like I said God revealed 404 books and they were all summarised into 4 books Psalms, Torah, Gospel and Quran. God keeps sending different messenger to us. So if you deny the Torah sent to Moses and the Psalms then you don't Truely believe in God. The Jews deny Jesus. The christians deny Mohammed.
I never told you the gospel is corrupt. God guided the gospel of Jesus. But the bibles we have nowadays are of different versions. And there pure gospel which Jesus brought is the truth. The pure gospel is what Jesus said. Not what was reported. If you can find it then good for you.
The Jews earned the anger of God cause Jesus brought the truth to them but yet refused to believe. During the time of Jesus did the people worship Jesus? Did Mary worship Jesus? Who did Moses pray to? Who did Abraham pray to?
We have been given brain to think and the reality is even though no messenger was sent our natural instint tells us to worship God alone.
God almighty is not weak.
Allah is arabic for God
Olorun is yoruba for God
Chineke is Igbo for God
Ubanghiji is Hausa for God
So worship God alone and don't ascribe partners with him. That is the straight path.
you are still saying the same thing, but this time you twist it now, the bible is not currupt, and the gospel God gave jesus, can you show me, let compear it with the bible.

Leave the issue of allah is God,olorun is God e.t.c....

Let me ask you, a man born of the'spirit of God, who will be his father?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 7:06pm On Sep 18, 2014
kimond101: The truth with all due respect is there are various versions of the Bible. The true message of Jesus Christ is pure and that is why God revealed the Quran to support the Gospel. Nothing can be added to it and nothing can be taken away from it.
Finding the Gospel in its true form is a task that may never happen. I'm a muslim and I believe in the all the books revealed by God and try to obey the Quran commandments to the best of my ability even though I'm not perfect
i was ban that why i did not reply you.

You said jesus christ message is pure? Then, no neeed for quran, as we already have the pure message of christ.

You said finding the gospel is a task? So allah guid the quran but fail to guid the message of Jesus? Allah said in the quran that non can change his word.......saying the gospel is currupt, it make allah weak.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 6:55pm On Sep 18, 2014
tola9ja: emusan and malvisguy212

hope you both accept jesus was not crucified with all these biblical and quranic evidences
i ignore you because no mather how hard i explain bible for you, you will never understand beacuse thhat is how you were brought up, it will be hard to comes out of islamic deception,i have a muslim barground, but by his Grace am a christian.

All what i have explain to you, openminded friends will understand.i post a coment in islam section, infect my aguiement is from the quran and i demanded an answer, but your mod(maclantunji) ban me for offensive post, are you guys ashamed to know the truth?i pray God save your soul.

thank you for your time.bye
Islam › Re: What The Quran Says About Jesus Christ And Mary. by malvisguy212: 5:41am On Sep 18, 2014
maclatunji: You are really funny.

You mean someone who died according to you can be God? Hahahahaha...joke of the ages.
yes, died to reconcile us back to himsel and ressurected, and behold he live FOREVER MORE.
Islam › Re: What The Quran Says About Jesus Christ And Mary. by malvisguy212: 9:37pm On Sep 17, 2014
Asiwaju9ja: Is any reason worth the killing of another? And you chose what you want to see. No wonder u cannot see Muslims killing but I bet u can see isreal killing Palestinians? Do you know that some religious beliefs such as budhhaism does not even believe in d killing of rats let alone human beings?
when the foundation is faulty, what can the follower do?the foundation of islam is faulty.
Islam › Re: What The Quran Says About Jesus Christ And Mary. by malvisguy212: 9:28pm On Sep 17, 2014
Asiwaju9ja: [b][/b]

I did a lttle research and discovered these facts in the Quran:

Please read what the Quran says of Mary and Jesus Christ.

Quran acknowledeges that He is the Messiah.

Quran Chapter 3, Verse 45>

[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah].

That he started preaching at an early age.

Quran Chapter 3, Verse 46>

He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."

The Immaculate conception

Quran Chapter 3, Verse 47>

She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allah ; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is.

He is teaching the Goodnews(Gospel)

Quran Chapter 3, Verse 47>

And He will teach him writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.

Further more,

The Quran acknowledges that JESUS CHRIST Can heal the sick, raise the dead and even give life By the will of GOD.

Quran Chapter 3, Verse 49>

And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.

The Quran also said that Jesus Christ did not die, that he is still alive and will come again.

Quran Chapter 4, verses 158

But Allah raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.

He will come back.

Quran Chapter 17, verses 104>
... and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus)

Amongst other amazing facts I discovered were that-:

The Quran said Jesus spoke at 2 days old

There is a whole Chapter dedicated to Jesus's Mother in the Quran "Maryam" (Quran Chapter 19)

The Quran acknowledges that Maryam(Mary) Had no sin (Quran Chapter 3, verse 34)

The Quran Said that Mary the mother of Jesus Ascended into Heaven alive. She didn't die like all human beings(Quran 50, verses 23)

What Conclusions can we draw here, please I want to hear some comments.
truely, no human can do all this except God. Jesus is Lord.
Christianity Etc › Re: From Christianity To Deism And Back by malvisguy212: 4:25pm On Sep 17, 2014
Zikdik: Silence, not silent. Basic English Grammar.
ok, thanks for the correction.............as long as you understand my point, am good.

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