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Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 4:23pm On Sep 17, 2014
kimond101: وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُۥٓ إِسْحَٰقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِى ذُرِّيَّتِهِ ٱلنُّبُوَّةَ وَٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَءَاتَيْنَٰهُ أَجْرَهُۥ فِى ٱلدُّنْيَا ۖ وَإِنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ لَمِنَ ٱلصَّٰلِحِينَ
And We bestowed on him [Ibrahim (Abraham)], Ishaque (Isaac) and Ya`qub (Jacob), and ordained among his offspring Prophethood and the Book [i.e. the Taurat (Torah) (to Musa - Moses), the Injeel (Gospel) (to `Iesa - Jesus), the Quran (to Muhammad SAW), all from the offspring of Ibrahim (Abraham)], and We granted him his reward in this world, and verily, in the Hereafter he is indeed among the righteous.
29:27
according to this verse, all prophet are to come through the descendant of isaac and jacob.God say the convenant he promise to abraham is EVERLASTING (FOREVER) no prophet are to come through ishmeal instead because he was the son of abraham God made him a great nation but the prophethood are to come through isaac and jacob.

You say allah give jesus the gospel.if it not the gospel we have now, provide the gospel let compared it with the one we have now.
Islam › Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 9:23am On Sep 17, 2014
Abdulsalam20: he has kept deceiving. When
Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall
deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a
huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that
most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible
talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell............U said i should quote the miracles of prophret muhammad i posted it for u an d u claim it should be in the quran and not in the hadith THAT SHOWS THE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE U HAVE ABOUT ISLAM........you dont know what is quran and what is hadith QURAN IS THE DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD TO GUIDE ALL HUMANITY WHILE HADITH IS WHAT THE PROPHET SAY AND WHAT HE DO DURING HIS LIFETIME SO WHEN MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE ONE THAT AUTHORED THE QURAN THEN WHY DID U EXPECT THE LIFE HISTOTY OF THE PROPHET IN THE QURAN.......though this may be new to u because most bible passage are narrations of the life style of the prophet......
with all the error in the quran, you still called it the word of God?
Islam › Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 9:18am On Sep 17, 2014
Abdulsalam20: AS I HAVE SAID MUHAMMAD WAS NEVER POSSESED BY SATAN I GAVE U ENOUGH EVIDENCE IF U READ THE VERSE NEXT TO IT I WILL SEE THAT ALL THESE IDOL ARE CONDEMNED BUT YOUR PROBLEM IS U ALWAYS REPEAT ONE POINT YOU SEE I CANT BLAME YOU MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL EXCEPT FEW.........I DONT ARGUE WITH GOONS AFTER GLARING EVIDENCE PROVIDED FOR YOU U STILL DENY IT............. I LAUGH AT U BECAUSE U SAID NO PROPHET RECEIVE A REVELATION FROM GOD THROUGH ANGEL I PROVED YOU WRONG AND YOU WENT AHEAD TODENY YOUR STATEMENT.........YOU SAID CHRISTIANITY EXIST BEFORE ISLAM THEN OBIOUSLY YOU ARE WRONG EVEN JESUS NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY ALL THE PROPHETS PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD U SAID IT IS THREE
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even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment
of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with
interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran
{3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and
quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that
ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in:
Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property
among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the
hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion
of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian
book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really
there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t
know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have
ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe:
for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause
of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery!
What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus
22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that
is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall
ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated
in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt
not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money,
interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon
interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U
OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who
prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her
head, for that is one and the same as if her head were
shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF
COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI
CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray
pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont
they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti
christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN
CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW
WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn
any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U
NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR
BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE
BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform
(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his
right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT
AN ANTICHRIST....
debating with you is nonsense ,you have'nt deal with issue of satanic verse, you are jumping to another aguiement,this show you cannnot explain muhammad possessed by satan.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 8:58am On Sep 17, 2014
Emusan: What type of grammar is this huh
lolzz.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Sep 17, 2014
tola9ja: Deuteronomy 21:23English Standard Version (ESV)

23 his body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is cursed by God. You shall not defile your land that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance.

message of the cross is foolishness there is noting like Crucifixion
carnalminded man,



The apostle Paul referred to this law in relationship to Jesus and His death on the cross. In Galatians 3:13 we read, “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree’” (ESV). Jesus was cursed for us, hanging on the cross as a substitute for our sins. The law in the Mosaic economy was a foreshadowing of the redemption of man. Another interesting detail is that the cross of Christ was sometimes referred to in Jewish contexts as a “tree.” Acts 5:30 states, “The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree” (ESV). Acts 10:39 says, “They put him to death by hanging him on a tree” (ESV). See also Acts 13:29. The concept of cursing and blessing in association with a tree is found in the larger narrative of Scripture. In Genesis 3 Eve and then Adam eat fruit from a tree from which they were forbidden to eat. In Revelation 22:14 the eternal state includes those who eat from the tree of life. A tree was involved in the entry of sin into humanity (through the tree in the Garden), the answer to sin for humanity (through the cross), and the ultimate removal of sin in eternity (through the tree of life). Under the Mosaic Law, those who were hanged on a tree were cursed. The law made it illegal to leave the body hanging overnight. This law applied to Jesus, who was executed on a tree, although He had done no wrong. Jesus’ dead body was removed from the cross on the same day of His death and was buried. Jesus took the curse of sin upon Himself to redeem us from sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: From Christianity To Deism And Back by malvisguy212: 9:09pm On Sep 16, 2014
as our athiest friends are working hard to convince you. We the christians (your brothers) will pray for you in silent.
Islam › Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:52pm On Sep 16, 2014
Kingharzyz: Any proof that Muhammad own a slave ? guy are you from this planet ... if you can't come out with proves... I take God beg you don't quote me again...
thank you
To begin with, the Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves.
Here are some relevant verses: 33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom
you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given
you as booty." This verse clearly shows that Muslims believe that taking slaves in war
was a God-given right. These slaves were considered 'booty' or the
spoils of war. As the saying goes: to the victors go the spoils. 23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to
them:..." The passage's context here (not quoted in full) details how Muslim
males are allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave
girls. Implicit in this is that Muslim males had slave-concubines. 70:30 is
basically a repeat of 23:5. Ibn Sa'd's "Tabaqat", gives a clear description of Muhammad having
"relations" with at least one of his slave girls. Muhammad had sexual
relations with Mariyah, his Coptic slave. Mariyah and her sister, Sirin
were slaves given as gifts to Muhammad. Muhammad gave Sirin to
Hasan Thabit, the poet. Ibn Sa'd says that Muhammad "liked Mariyah,
who was of white complexion, with curly hair and pretty." [Taken from Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes),
p151]. Ibn Sa'd also writes that Mariyah bore Muhammad a son named
Ibrahim. He died 18 months later. Sa'd writes: "If he had lived, no
maternal uncle of his would have remained in bondage", p164. This
shows that there were other Coptic slaves owned by the Muslims. The Quran also instructs Muslims NOT to force their female slaves into
prostitution (24:34), and even allows Muslims to marry slaves if they
so desire (4:24), and to free them at times as a penalty for crime or sin
(4:92, 5:89, 58:3) and even allows slaves to buy their liberty, if they
meet certain of their master's conditions (24:33). [90:10 'freeing of a
bondsman' refers to Muslims ransoming other Muslims who were slaves of non-Muslims.] While I think it's nice to allow a slave to obtain his freedom, (at his
master's discretion) it is tragic that Islam allows them to be enslaved in
the first place. That's like robbing a bank and giving some of the
money back to the bank, and thinking you did the right thing! The above verses show that taking slaves was ordained by Allah, and
that it was permissible for Muslim males to have sex with their female
slaves. It also shows that slaves were a valuable commodity to the
Muslims, otherwise, Allah would not have imposed the penalty of
freeing a slave to make up for a crime.


Am surprise you dont know the quran to much hence your evidence.do you realy think a prophet shuld have slave?and have sex with them?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Muslims Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 4:48pm On Sep 16, 2014
Abdulsalam20: WHEN GOD SAY WHOEVER BELIEVE IN HIM THEN SIMPLY WHAT GOD IS TELLING YOU IS THAT WHOEVER FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND NOT WHOEVER WORSHIP HIM WHEN JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE LIGHT WHOEVER FOLLOW ME SHALL NEVER GO ASTRAY THINK OF IT HE IS NOT SAYING WHOEVE WORSHIP HIM WHAT HE MEAN IS THAT WHOEVER FOLLOW HIS TEACHING DID YOU FOLLOW HIS TEACHING ACCORDING TO THE PROOF ABOVE? MUSLIM OBEY HIS TEACHING MORE THAN CHRISTIAN
A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE
if you believe in jesus, go to your mosque and shout jesus, even the devil believe'in jesus.you say you follow the teaching of jesus, can you call God father?hypocrite muslims.quran 29:27 say all prophethood aare to come'frome isaac and jecob. This mean muhammad is a false prophet.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 9:26pm On Sep 15, 2014
tola9ja: LOL WHERE DID YOU GET UR OWN HISTORY U BE OLODO GO AND ASK UR PASTOR OR WIKIPEDIA
DONT LET ME 4GET DIS because NO REPLY ON IT SINCE


Obadiah1:1 we have heard a rumour from the lord.
Psalm78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep shocked shocked like a strong man shouting because of wine. grin grin
1st corinthians 1:25 because of the foolishness of god shocked shocked shocked is wiser than man and the weakness shocked shocked :oof god is stronger than man. ( in the book of 1st corinthians 14:33 for God is not the author of confusion
you guys are spiritualy blind,that was the book of david (psalm) it was because of lack of paitenc that make david say that comment but when God answer him, he was describing how it happen
psalm78:65 :king James Bible. Then the Lord awaked AS one out of sleep, and LIKE a mighty man that
shouteth by reason of wine.

Man wiseness in the sight of God,it is foolishness and man strenght in God sight, it it weakness.

You see how quran was wrong , God cannot do that type of mistake.moses uncle to jesus. soo wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jews Reject Jesus, Why Should An African Accept Jesus? by malvisguy212: 8:50pm On Sep 15, 2014
iamord: Evidence of humans existence on earth date back to 500000 years.. So what the f**k you sayinghuhhuhhuh

Let me give you a sneak peak of the end time-

The brainwashed religious people will leave this world due to natural and man made circumstances

But get what??

Life will go on and the children of those days will use your type as a point of reference to learn..

And they will advance in all endeavors.

While you guys will be chilling in limbo waiting on the end
like i say, it a choice , you believe or you pass by. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jews Reject Jesus, Why Should An African Accept Jesus? by malvisguy212: 6:28pm On Sep 15, 2014
Feedmemore: Lol


Not trying to hypnotise anyone...

People who believe that magical sky fairies are real do nor have a firm grasp on reality.
what is your gain for not believing in God? Ok, assuming there is no God, i got noting to loose, but if there is God (which am positive) you got a very big qustion to answer.we all gonna die one day,on your sick bed , what will be in your mind is this"ahh am dying,what if there is God? What am i gonna do?all the blasphemy i do, how will i look in his eyes?" soooo many qustion on your mind.

You here stuff about God on the internet , they brainwash you, give you seducing doctrine, you believe and fall, neglect the word of God in the bible. I ASSURE YOU WOMAN, CHRIST WILL COME OR ALONG THE WAY WE WILL DIE,WHAT WILL YOU DO?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jews Reject Jesus, Why Should An African Accept Jesus? by malvisguy212: 6:11pm On Sep 15, 2014
macof: We need computers we don't need christianity...this is jst very simple
pagan need computers?to do what?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jews Reject Jesus, Why Should An African Accept Jesus? by malvisguy212: 6:07pm On Sep 15, 2014
rinrin23: I believe the question is if they didn't accept him- THEIR messiah, and STILL don't why should you?. If someone is claiming to be your father and you know he isnt, your family knows he isnt, your country knows he isnt, why should races of people around the world claim he is your father on your behalf and call you wrong with no proof.

If Toyota tells you the engine you have is fake, why should you claim superior knowledge over the makers (in this case, the owners).

Yes, no one is compelled, but thousands of years ago many were- and harshly, even inhumanly. You never know what you might find if you look farther back into your lineage and history. You might have ancestors that would be rolling in their graves over the thought of you worshipping a god that they refused to accept and were killed over, or a god who they pretended to venerate just so they could get access to quality education. An education they hoped would lead you to the truth through logic and deep thought (and plain common sense most of the time).

'Truth' is to be continuously sought out for, and those that have found it know it's not in a church or in a bible, or in any man-made religion. And they hope that you find this truth too by questioning. Hence the question. It's there to make you think. Not to put up a defence, think.
the jews reject jesus christ because they thought the messaiah will fight war and restore the kingdom back to israel.(acts1:6)

the scripture make it clear that no one know the day or the hour of
christ return.but the bible dos say that we can know the time and
season surrounding his comin,you may be thinkin the usual sayin like...
So because disease and immorality are running rampant and because
there are wars and rumors of war and we have had some few
earthquake that jesus is comin soon ? Yeah we've heard all that before. But after studying the bible I discover somtin interesting about
the end of days. Pleas read.
my theory about the end of days started when I read a verse in isaiah
46. It say that God declare the end from the beginning. A similar verse
was in isaiah48. This lead me to the creation story in the book of
genesis. As I study the first chapter, I began to wonder, WHY IT TOOK GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATE THIS WORLD AND REST ON THE SEVENTH
DAY,WHY WOULD HE TAKE SIX DAYS WHEN HE COULD HAVE CREATED
THE WORLD IN ONE SECOND, IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE?I started studying
the word"day" and days" I discover some interesting passages that
related to this. Maby God is indicating to us how much time man
would have on earth.this is the point, the bible especially the old testament is full of foreshadowing. An event that actually happen in
history, also picture somtin comin in the future. An example is the
sacrifice of abraham and isaac, that even actually happen,and it was
also a picture of what God will do to his son jesus on the cross as an
offering for the sin of the world. Now why will God take SIX days to
create the world? Is this a picture of somtin we need to know? I think it is. In 2peter 3:8, the context was refferin to the second comin of
jesus christ,the bible say that a day with they Lord is as a thousand
years and a thousand year is like a day. Psalm 90. A thousand year in
God sight is like yesterday.so could it be that the six days of creation
were yo indicate to us the time man will spend on this earth would be
about six thousand years?...the seventh day of rest picturing the thousand years millennia reign, when christ come back to set up is
kingdom, the time of righteousness and peace.bible scholar have
calculate from the first man adam to the first comin of christ to be
4000years,if that is the case then we are could have been living at the
end of what the new testament called THE LAST DAYS.now this is the
issue.God deal with time in the bible, when God measure time He dose so by seven.....
1.God created the world in seven days, with the seven day bein for
REST.
2according to the old testament law,the jew were commanded to REST
every SEVEN days.
3.the seventh week after the passover, they celebrated a big feast of REST.
4.the seventh month of were perhaps the most important when they
celebrated three of there biggest feast of REST.
5.every seventh year was the year of REST for the land.
6.every 49years ,seven times seven, they celebrated the year of
jubilee, which is a year of REST for the land and liberty for the people.so it made perfect sense to me that God would set up a seven
thousand year period for man to occupy the earth, with the last
thousand year being a time of REST when jesus come back to set up his
earthly kingdom, as spoken in revelation20.I was right when I say God
deal with time he dos so by seven.the second coming of christ is the
most important day in God's calendar , he want us yo know the timing .
Hosea was a prophet in the old testament, in verse 6 of that book ,
hosea talk about isreal, God chosen nation, who was always rejecting
God.the nation was goin to be torn apart, but verse two say" after two
days will he revive us , the third day he will raise us up and we
shall live in his sight"what dos this mean? When jesus come isreal reject him as there messiah , so God scatter the nation of isreal all over
the world. For 1900 years there is no nation of isreal but God say after
two days[ or 2000yrs] I will revive thee, and you, isreal will live in my
sight: the scatter isreal became a nation in the year 1948.this is
important because God is reviving the nation of isreal and they are
about to live in his sight when jesus come back to set up his earthly kingdom , have you ever meet a cannanite ? How about the amorite?
No because these are isreal enemies and God did not preserve them,
the jew have been preserve because they are God chosen people and
he must fulfill and keep his promise he made to them but the jew are
still rejecting christ, for how long?after two days [or 2000years] I will
revive thee and the third day you shall live in my sight. The second coming event are about to begin, I see the same
foreshadowing in exodus 19:11. God told isreal to clean up and wait
for two days, the third day I'm comin down in the sight of they nation.
In john 11. Lazarus died a jew, jesus waited for two days before he
raise him from death, this is a picture of how God is about to turn his
back from isreal for the next two thousand years [or two days] and start reach out for the rest of the world through the new testament
church which he did. God dint just throw this stuff in the bible to wast
space ,maby am right , maby God is tryin to tell us somtin.in
matthew17:1 say that jesus tool peter, james and john up to the
mountain, apart from the rest, did the thing we want to know happen
up there? Yes.jesus transfigured before them and the are giving a preview of his second coming glory, now the first word of the verse
was "after six days" why did God throw this in? To was space? Or is
God tryin to tell us somtin that we need to know?note:the time from
adam to jesus is 4,000years[4days] the time of the church period is
two thousand years[2days] so could this mean after 6000yrs [6days]
God will revive isreal and fulfill his promise he made to them? Hmmm am I reading to much . If am right, BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE
END OF DAYS. REPENT. THANK YOU.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 4:20pm On Sep 15, 2014
truthman2012: Thank God for His interest in your family. It is the Lord's doing. As a Muslim, it was the power of God that delivered him from deception because muslims are very difficult to convert to Christ. I am a pastor by His grace but took special interest in islam since around 1974.

By the Grace of God, we shall make it to heaven in Jesus name. The Lord will uphold us to the end, so shall it be in Jesus name.
a very big amen. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 3:17pm On Sep 15, 2014
truthman2012: Satan is not only very wise but also very cunning. He pretended as the God of bible prophets for people to believe he is the true God. He then repeated some of the words of Jehovah God and cunningly changed some of the words and replaced them with his own. He was vehement in attacking the Divinity of Jesus, capitalizing on human's limited capacity to understanding spiritual things. How can an ordinary man believe God could come in the flesh? To him it is foolishness. You can only understand spiritual things with a spiritual mind.

A close examination of other religions reveals it is the same Satan that is in-charge, because they have many things in common. There is similarity between Islam and Hinduism and in fact, the holy book of the hindus mentions the name of Muhammad.

If you have watched them in Mecca during the annual pilgrimage, muslims tie white clothes round themselves. That is the same way idol worshipers do even in Yorubaland. All other cults do the same.

Satan is the god of this world and that was why Jesus said we are not of the world.

Don't you wonder why muslims are increasing without evangelism? It is allah himself that preaches his own message by violence and biological increase. Some times he writes on egg, rock, trees, meat and virtually anything. Some times, children were born with quran printed in this world. So many lying wonders to deceive.
thak you for this, the muslims with teachable spirit will learn.

My father has a muslim barground, he give his life to christ arround 1995,his life change.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 1:05pm On Sep 15, 2014
truthman2012: Don't mind him. Islam is about hypocrisy, saying something and doing something different. Islam is a religion of peace but allah terrorises.

Do muslims call on Jesus? Are they following Jesus or Muhammad? Two people representing different God.

Where did Jesus appove of worshiping God in Mecca?

Where did Jesus approve of facing Kaaba, a centre for idols, when praying?

Where did Jesus command ablution before you can worship God?

Jesus does not recognize islam.
i strongly believe islam is another way satan is using to mislead mankind to hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 12:37pm On Sep 15, 2014
Abdulsalam20: well there is nothing left for me to say because my brother in islam have answered u beautifully but your last post u said those who dont have jesus i can provr to you that muslims follow jesus more than u do all christians that are not muslim are antichrist and concerning your post about christian salvation there is nothing like salvation in christianity i have proof here to justify all what i say but i will post it based on your approval as i have claimed i still stand on it u are an ANTICHRIST
if you believe in jesus , confess his name enter your mosque and called the name.

Even satan believe in jesus , dos that make him rigtheous?no, you must confess his name.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 11:23am On Sep 15, 2014
truthman2012: Salvation is not the same with good Deed. Salvation is an escape from eternal damnation while good Deed has to do with REWARD meant for those who eventually make it to heaven. Good Deed does not grant salvation. Salvation is obtainable by Law or Grace.

Under the Law adulterers were stoned to death. Does it mean they had not at one time or the other done any good deed? Yet with their good Deed they were still stoned to death. This shows salvation cannot be obtained by good deed.

As I said earlier, salvation can be obtained either by Law or Grace. Salvation by Law is almost impossible because you cannot avoid breaking any of the Laws, even unknowingly some times. Ignorance is no excuse, once you break the Law you are liable to punishment whether or not you have good deed.

It is worthy of note that under the Law there is no room for repentance once you are already caught. If God is to take your records of breaking the Law, you will not get to heaven where you will receive reward for your good deed, meaning your good works will get burnt.

Grace means somebody taking your place, somebody paying for your deficit. Grace is unmerited favour - something you do not deserve but given to you because somebody paid for it. This where Jesus comes in.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10:13).

Not calling the name of the Lord in sin but in righteosness. What is righteosness? It is right standing before God without any sense of condemnation. After you have done your best, then Jesus will do the rest (I John 2:1).

I pity those who do not have Jesus. They will realize their inability to keep the Law properly at death but it is too late.
God bless you for this.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 6:17am On Sep 15, 2014
tola9ja: THAT IS WHAT I ALWAYS TOLD YOU U ARE NOT READY TO LEARN IF YOU TRACE THERE LINEAGE YOU WILL TRACE THEM TO ABRAHAM WIFE SARAH AND IF U TRACE MUHAMMED [S.A.W] YOU TRACE TO ABRAHAM WIFE HAGAR

EVEN UPON ALL WHAT HAVE SHOWING YOU U STILL NOT ACCEPT THE WHAT JESUS PRACTICE
2:18
Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].

U NEVER REPLY ME ON THESE

Obadiah1:1 we have heard a rumour from the lord.
Psalm78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep like a strong man shouting because of wine.
1st corinthians 1:25 because of the foolishness of god is wiser than man and the weakness of god is stronger than man. ( in the book of 1st corinthians 14:33 for God is not the author of confusion
you are ver very wrong . Mary is from the tribe of levi while aaron is judea. shm
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 11:24pm On Sep 14, 2014
tola9ja: mary is sister to aaron is brother to Moses so why are u still confuse

what about the bible verse no reply to it cos u are totally confuse
i think there is satanic manipulation in you,do you know what this mean? Moses'is uncle to jesus. I think am done with you now.you accept the error in quran.moses who live more than 500years is uncle to jesus. Very funny.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 10:56pm On Sep 14, 2014
tola9ja: that is what i told malvisguy212 you both lack understanding Allah narrate what happen during jesus time to muhammed for example


Surat Maryam (Mary) - سورة مريم

19:27
Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, "O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented.
19:28
O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."
19:29
So she pointed to him. They said, "How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?"
19:30
[Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.
19:31
And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive

that is what happen during the birth of jesus but muhammed was not there Allah reveal what happen to him
and these verse is 1 of the greatest miracle of jesus you can never see a great miracle like that in the bible
quran the word of god without contradiction variation manipulation fallacy unlike the bible the most corrupt book on earth


Can god say something like this. Malachi 2:3 behold I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung upon your faces.
Genesis 8:20-21 and the lord smelled the odour.
Obadiah1:1 we have heard a rumour from the lord.
Psalm78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep like a strong man shouting because of wine.
1st corinthians 1:25 because of the foolishness of god is wiser than man and the weakness of god is stronger than man. ( in the book of 1st corinthians 14:33 for God is not the author of confusion)
the verse you qoute say , "O Mary,
you have certainly done a thing unprecedented." Then the next verse say "sister of aaron" mary, mother of jesus a sister to aaron, brother of moses? what kind of big time error is this? Open your eyes my brother, this is wrong.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Evidences That Show That Jesus Is Prophet Not Lord by malvisguy212: 10:13pm On Sep 14, 2014
Samunique: My brother, this very ridiculous and laughable!!!!

Allah asked Muslims to pray 50 times a day, while we only have 24 hrs a day. Did Allah forget that?
Did Allah forget Muslims have to work? Why will Allah be so weak that a mortal man like Moses needed to remind him that will be to much a day?

Bros I'll advise u to quit this debate cause the man u engaged cannot reason logically and rationally, don't waste ur time.

For instance, he's telling u all the words in quran are words of Allah, while in quran 19,( Surat mariam ) we have some instances where Mary was speaking with Gabriel, the infant Jesus also spoke, even some people also question Mary when they saw her with a child before the infant Jesus responded, yet Muslims will tell u quran comprises purely the words of Allah alone.
God bless you.
Islam › Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 9:08pm On Sep 14, 2014
Abdulsalam20: grin THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS PEOPLE PROVE THE VERSES I POSTED WRONG NW
do you know how to read at all? Dint you read now the prophecy in deutorunomy come to pass in the book of john?


Now beat this.

According to early and treasured biographical and historical accounts of Muhammad, authored by
competent Muslim scholars (such as writings of at-Tabari and Ibn Sa’d),
Muhammad longed for better relations and reconciliation with his
community. Thereafter, the accounts continue, God revealed Surah 53
to Muhammad up to and including vss. 19, 20. These two verses read: Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other? (53:19,20) Then, originally, the verses (known today as the satanic verses)
followed as verses 21-22: These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries)
Whose intercession is to be hoped for. The cranes whose intercession was recognized were, of course, three
deities, specifically female deities. The same accounts tell us that after
this revelation was completed, Muhammad, his followers and the
pagan Arabs all prostrated. Tensions eased, reconciliation was at hand,
and all were delighted. But Muhammad soon retracted the reconciliation—how soon is not
clear. For the account continues that Jibril (Gabriel), the angel of
revelation, informed Muhammad that Satan had used Muhammad's
desire for reconciliation with the pagan leaders to insert into the
revelation of God the verses about the interceding cranes, otherwise
called "the satanic verses". The verses which follow, not the satanic verses, serve as the proper sequence to 53:19,20 (above): Are yours the males and His the females?
That indeed is an unfair division! (53:21,22) In other words: When you Arabs have sons (whom you prefer to
daughters!), how unfair of you to say that God has daughters! The idea
of a plurality of gods or goddesses or sons or daughters of God is
ridiculous. God alone is God. The three goddesses are false. Problem: Muhammad admitted (by the guidance of Gabriel) to being
deceived into inserting these verses into the Qur’an. In other words,
Muhammad was unable to discern revelation from Allah with
revelation from Satan. The great Islamic historian al-Tabari even
records Muhammad's confession: I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words
which He has not spoke. (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. VI, p. 111, SUNY Press, Albany, NY) Is this possible for one who is truly God’s chosen prophet? Furthermore, if Satan was able to deceive Muhammad into inserting
these verses, how many other verses also have been inserted due to
satanic influence? Muslims are aware of these verses, but have a response to the
problem. Muhammad receives another just-in-time revelation
absolving him of this small indiscretion: Sura 22:52 - And We did not send before you any messenger or
prophet, but when he desired, the Shaitan [Satan] made a suggestion
respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts,
then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing,
Wise. In other words, don’t worry Muhammad, all other prophets before you
said things attributed to Satan from time to time, but Allah always
corrected them. The problem with this argument, or attempt to rescue Muhammad, is
that it is patently false and without merit or proof. In fact, the Bible
specifies exactly what must happen to someone who makes a false
prophecy or speaks in the name of other gods: If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, ... saying,
“Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us
serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that
dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know
whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all
your soul... But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the LORD
your God... (Deut. 13:1-5) In other words, anyone who advocates other gods is a false prophet;
do not listen to him. In Deuteronomy 18 we find another test of false
prophet: But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name
which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the
name of other gods, that prophet shall die. (Deut. 18:20) Here we have a two-fold test of a false prophet. How does Muhammad
measure up to the test? Test #1 1. If a man speaks a word in the name of God which God did not
command him to speak, that man is a false prophet. 2. Muhammad spoke words which God did not command him to
speak. 3. Therefore, Muhammad is a false prophet. Test #2 1. If a man speaks in the name of other gods, that man is a false
prophet. 2. Muhammad spoke in the name of other gods. 3. Therefore, Muhammad is a false prophet. Muslims may not like it, but by any definition of a prophet, Muhammad
just does not measure up. Indeed, he meets the criteria for a false
prophet, and therefore must be rejected as a messenger of God. The other problem with these Satanic verses is this: Muhammad, by his
own admission, could not discern between revelation from God and
that from Satan. How then is anyone to trust anything written in the
Qur'an? Perhaps all of it came from Satan -- Muhammad certainly was
in no position to discern genuine divine revelation. Muslims need to abandon the Qur'an as God's word, for this and a
multitude of other reasons, and come to the book that truly is inspired
by the one true God - the Holy Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by malvisguy212: 6:29pm On Sep 14, 2014
uptil now no answer, we can see how satan is planing to divert the gospel of christ, if allah promise the christians heaven, then no need for islam.

The devil is lier.
Islam › Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 1:19pm On Sep 14, 2014
Kingharzyz: any proof for this?
proof for what? I dont need to tell you, When muhammad wage war on the people you turn blind eyes not to
see it, APART FROM MUHAMMAD, WHICH PROPHET OWN A SLAVE? HOW
DO YOU OWN SLAVE? IS IT NOT BY WAR? WHEN YOU DEFECT YOUR
ENEMY AT WAR YOU CAPTURE THE SLAVE.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by malvisguy212: 12:23pm On Sep 14, 2014
Rilwayne001: Now, reading Quran 5:69 and 72 gives a clear view of what God was saying in Quran 2:62.

Quran 5:69 Surely, those who believed and the Jews and Sabians and Christians - whosoever believed in Allâh and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

As you can see the same messqge of Quran 2:62 was reitrated here. Now reading the Surah further, let us see what Allah say about these christians in talk.


Quran 5:72 Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, "Behold,God is the Christ, son of Mary" - seeing that the Christ [himself] said, "O children of Israel! Worship God [alone], who is my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer."" Behold, whoever ascribes divinity to any being beside God, unto him will God deny paradise, and his abode shall be the fire: and such evildoers will have none to aid them.

And indeed jesus said it in Mark that he is not God almighty, that God share no divinity with anyone.

Mark 12: 29 Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the ONE and ONLY LORD.

Futher reading of the Quran 3:85 And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.

I dont want to go into the historical context of surah 2:62 because you will still remain cantankerous. grin grin



Good morning Sire grin
it very open in the quran for us to see, stop twisting it.

Sure , God is one ,christ is the fullnest of God .
Christianity Etc › Re: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by malvisguy212: 9:51am On Sep 14, 2014
truthman2012: Tell me why allah contradicted himself on the fate of Christians about heaven.

Go on with your explanation with your source. See you tomorrow.
check this lies again:

Are there errors in the Qur’an? – Are there historical inaccuracies? While the list of historical inaccuracies and anachronisms is vast, one has been selected for discussion here. Surah 20 relays the incident of the golden calf. In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read: “He [Allah] said, ‘We have tempted thy people since thou didist leave them. The Samaratin has led them into error.’ Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)… Moses said, ‘And thou, Samaritan, what was thy business?’” Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Claim That He Is God? by malvisguy212: 6:54am On Sep 14, 2014
Elkewwty: undecided I'm allergic to epistle of gibberish undecided
are you jehovah's witness? Do you not believe in the epistle?how about the gospel of christ I give you?


Most of you guys are christian but when you read stuff in the internet, you grow cold, they feed you lies about the bible,you know longer read the bible but chose to gather information about God on the internet, they give you lies and seducing doctrine, as always been the case, majority are always on the wrong side, during the flood only few people got save, soddom and gommorah, only few people got save and nowadays the same thing is happening, only few people know who jesus real is,a man born of the spirit of God, who will be his father?is it possible for a mortal man to walk the earth witout committing one sin? only GOD CAN.bible prophecy is coming to pass in our own very eyes but the sad things is that we are sleeping, don't terry lady, believe in jesus so that you will be among elect.
God breath on man and man became a living soul, but satan corrupt man, do you think God will live it like that ? Noting shall be left untouched, we only need jesus to adopt back the nature of Godliness in us.

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