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PAGAN 9JA:
Hey Madame JeSoul, i just finished modifying the thread. i removed all addresses , contact details,etc., and made some significant changes, you can check it out now. it no more looks like an advertisement.

modify your post and add the link

what the poster said is simple straightforward common sense

alexleo: whats this money begging trend now?

help your christian brother. Dosen't it say in the bible that when you give you'll get it back times 10?

MacDaddy01: Did you even read my comment to the woman?

See the liars? The fake sympathizers?

No mind them. They're just looking for yourr trouble trying to make you look like a bad person & score cheap points

Ortarico: Smh...now my conclusion is "Athiests are the most miserable people on Earth!"
Wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is a brief attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists. But first consider this. When it comes to the possibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God. On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he's there, he says, "You will seek me & find me, when you seek me with all your heart, I'll be found by you."

Does God exist? Here are six straight-forward reasons to believe that God is really there; Before you look @ the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, if God does exist, would I want to know him? Consider.....
1. The complexity of our planet point to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
2. The universe had a start-what caused it?
3. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature, why does it?
4. The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behaviour!
5. We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating & seeking for us to come to him.
6. Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us. Why Jesus?
Look throughout the major religions & you'll find out that Buddha, Muhammed, Confucius & Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them claimed to be equal to God!

Thee fact that Nigeria is a very corrupt country where our Politicians loot as if there is no tomorrow our Police take bribes and kill with impunity, our church leaders are only interested in fleecing their flocks instead of thinking of how to move the country forward is more than enough proof thatgod don't exist.

MacDaddy01: Not one place did she thank the NHS that she is sponging off (we are all getting very subsidized treatment from the NHS) or even the doctors.

If she is insensitive enough not to thank the organisation and doctors, then she shouldnt be sensitive to the insults that come with such ungratefulness.

]I agree with you bro . Imagine thanking doG but ignoring the Doctors and Nurses who are qualified professionals that work hard and care for their patients? If she was in that very religious country called Nigeria where they don't value human life her treatment and recovery would not have been so smooth.

MacDaddy01: What about my sensitivity? Where members of my family who work for the NHS as professionals have to tip-toe around religious nonsense like this to do their Jobs?

A pharmacist insulted by muslims for selling condoms to a 19 year old girl?
A doctor abused by born again christians for calming down a exposed gay youth member of their church (that gay is okay) before treating him?

Just proves that non religious people are more tolerant than religious god fearing folk.

Anyway no vex am just doing a job here and trying my best to be impartial

MacDaddy01: Lol.....Context? So 2 people can abuse with the same intent but the topic is what you use to decide to ban people? Do you see the slippery slope you are climbing?


That is not context. Even if you read my comment, I told her that I am happy that she is well and I wish her good.


This is becoming ridiculous. Note that you brushed over the insult that I received because it is not "sensitive" enough for you? Who decides the sensitivity?




I am not apologising.

Yes you said you wish her well and you called her a fool at the same time. We're only human and some people can be sensitive about such statements considering she's in in hospital and could've probably passed away.

In what he described as 'Money Service', during a service at Christ Embassy this evening February 21,2012, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome announced that he was giving away $1million tonight.

The pastor was preaching on the need for christians to always give God a 'fat' offering. He read the scripture citing the example of Solomon in the bible who impressed God with an unusual offering.

Obviously trying to lead by example told the congregation 'I'm Giving away a million dollar tonight'.
We spent a million dollar

In his words: 'Money is not just a luxury, it's a defense to protect your life'.

The pastor talked about how the church spent over 500 thousand Dollars every month on media evangelism from the church account, apart from the ones paid for by individuals.

He also said that God has been so faithful to his church that there was a time they needed money for Media work and in less than few minutes that they announced it, 10million Dolloars was raised. The next few minutes about 15million was raised again. All made possible by different group leaders of the church alone.

The service was streamed live world-wide. It continues tomorrow.

OK I just found gracebestowed's topic when i look at the context in which you called her a fool am sorry to say that you fully deserve the ban . If she wants to attribute her hear boil and her healing to what me and you prefer to call an imaginary being then its up to her she's been brainwashed to the point of no return but that don't give you the right to call her a fool on a very sensitive topic. I should even make you go back to her thread kneel down and apologize to her or add another 48 hours to your ban if you don't

Logicboy03: You are dreaming. I have written 2 front page worthy threads and submitted them. None made front page.

However "the cowardice of atheism" made front page quickly.

Maybe I will make a thread "the cowardice of christianity"

Logic boy Jesoul did recommend your topic titled https://www.nairaland.com/1200970/why-religion-section-always-turn but thats no guareantee it will make the homepage. Ooman it was Jesoul who recommended your topic which made the homepage https://www.nairaland.com/1188856/more-concerned-africa-than-salvation#14205845 and reached 19 plus pages and me who recommended your topic titled https://www.nairaland.com/1193980/how-understand-atheists-guide-christians#14283910 which also made the homepage.

I told you before when Seun was here that its not all topics recommended my mods make the homepage that most times the supermod just go to all the various sections and choose topics that she/he deems fit to make the homepage. So you can't blame Jesoul for Daviddylans topic making the homepage because it has nothing to do with her.

MacDaddy01: Jesoul

You banned me because I called Gracebestowed a fool? You banned me because I insulted someone? You know very well that many of your christian pals get away with this same insult day in day out. That word "fool" comes out of the christians mouth more than atheists


I know the real reason why you banned me. It is because

1) I am logicboy
2) I said something true about christianity that you didnt like (that christians praise god rather than thank the doctors that save them from deadly illnesses)


This is wrong, Jesoul. Howevr, just to prove my point,

Here is a thread you allowed an "unprovoked insult" against me to reach the front page. The very first line of the op;



https://www.nairaland.com/1198534/cowardice-atheism

Or even better- an "unprovoked insult" towards me on my thread.


https://www.nairaland.com/1186088/there-more-atheists-nairaland-some#14170959

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Now, the question is why didnt you follow the usual protocol of just hiding my comment and warning me to stop insulting? hmmmmmm.


Jesoul, the funny thing is that you will claim good christian tomorrow with this hypocritical behaviour. Worse still, you will never admit any wrong doing and never go back on your decision.

You posted the link for where you say you were insulted by alexleo if you felt offended by that then use the report to moderator link. I didn't see the link where you were banned for calling gracebestowed a fool. I also couldn't find it by going through your posts in your profile but am sure there must be more to it than just calling her a fool. Anyway you'll be free by 7:39pm tomorrow

ooman: MMW are you seeing this?

I saw everything

You shall not steal.” ( Exodus 20:15 ) NIV

God places a high value on private property. The eighth commandment focuses on the right of ownership.

While most of us would never go out and rob a bank, there are other forms of stealing: tax evasion, failure to pay debts, fraud, abusing copyright laws, charging excessive interest, being less than honest on an insurance claim—any act of taking something that doesn’t belong to us. We might try to justify these acts with thoughts like That insurance company has plenty of money—and they overcharge me on my premiums or These taxes are unfair—I shouldn’t have to pay them. But God says, “You shall not steal.”

Consider this …

Actually, everything belongs to God. We are stewards of what he has entrusted to us. To abuse a person’s right of ownership, whether they are rich or poor, is wrong. The rich should not rob their employees and the poor should not expect to be shown favoritism. The Christian example should be that of a giver, not a taker.

If you have been drawn into the all-too-common attitudes of selfishness and compromise that invade our world today, it is time to turn your back on those attitudes and focus on doing things God’s way.

Ayomivic: Christians believed in life after death, that is the reason we are struggling to make heaven.Christians are travellers in this world,we have a place in focus. that place is our gain of being christian.


You as an atheist what do you stand to gain for being an atheist ?

Nothing, to me personally its just to do with reality

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misplaced priorities. How is wasting money to celebrate our victory going to help our country progress.

Enigma: Naah, now I am going to accuse you of lying; at least, I don't believe you. I guess part of your problem is that last week I pointed out another example of your double-standards which did not even concern me.

As I said then: you think because we keep quiet we do not see your bias and double standards.

What double standards? Is it because i don't see things from your own religious point of view or refuse to dance to your tune? There's two of us here me and JeSoul so if i don't do something to your satisfaction she can just as well do it.

Enigma: Ironically, the title of the thread is "The Cowardice of Atheism"! lol

Manmustwac not only demonstrates not only the cowardice of atheism but also the dishonesty and lack of moraliity that is part of atheism --- especially evangelical atheism.

He says I was the first to "insult" when words like "liar", "deluded" and more were flying about.

Don't go and borrow money to buy some honesty from Christians.

Exactly deluded and liar are always flying around but i can't hide or edit everything so i just pick out certain words because i think its better than hiding posts. As for two weeks ago i can't remember

Enigma: Attention Jesoul and manmustwac

I try very hard not to report anything on Nairaland and just take the rough with the tumble.

However, someone (most likely a moderator or higher?) has been modifying some of my posts surreptitiously without notifying me. Today is at least the second time.

In one of my posts, I informed a poster that my view of him was: "just a mumu; to be ignored". The words 'a mumu' and the semi colon were removed. I have now returned my post to its original draft. https://www.nairaland.com/1198534/cowardice-atheism/6#14358863

Meanwhile to show that whoever modified the post is being duplicitous, s/he left the same word in at least two posts by the person I was replying to:

Before the posts get modified, I quote them as they appear at this time of typing.






If a moderator (or higher) must modify posts, I expect at least two things (a) notification and (b) fairness.

its me who did it. I edited your mumu because you were the first to insult, only to scroll down and realize i would have to do the same thing at least a dozen times which is not easy for me to do while using my phone, but its sorted now.

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Your topic just proves that its total nonsense to call us non believers evangelical atheists since the majority of us keep our views on religion to ourselves.

Jeboy: Who is the moderator of this thread?

ME!

Do you guys honestly believe arsenal go even manage to finish fourth this season?

Will get back to you soon have been to busy these past two weeks

I don't just submit a request because somebody wants his topic to make the homepage i usually ask myself is the topic worthy of being on the homepage will it get enough views or make four or five pages. I mean any topic that can't make more than two pages is a waste of space in my humble opinion. But then i will submit your topic Pagan

edreesabiodun: Your great-great grandfather was a pagan. Was he from Britain?

Don't mind the guy. He expects the nairaland religion section to be like utopia whereas the society you live in (nigeria) is far from it.

Prayers don't work infact prayers never work because luck chance coincidence or hardwork are all attributed to prayers by the religious

but they can squander money on keshi and the national team

Gareth Bale 2 Lyon 1

There was a big debate about this issue in the mod section about the muslim section being a muslim only section & non muslims getting bans of up to 10 years & more for posting there. It was decided by we mods to put that warning there before you post as a compromise to prevent a total ban on muslim topics making the homepage