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..and you came to that conclusion by..........

spillyboy14:
And you mean that guy escaped? wow.. I can assure you many colonels will not escape a one on one

barcanista:
What we are experiencing now is as a result of failure of successive government to fix other sectors of the economy using the oil $$$$. They rather fix every sector of their Family, friends and collaborators. If they had fixed the Manufacturing sector, it will drastically reduce importation and improve our export. It will tell on our balance of trade, the Naira will benefit greatly and the oil earning will take care of contingencies.
We failed to fix our tourism sector which should have been another source of earning. Our economic, technological and political terrain is too tough for entrepreneurs to survive. We are shamefully at the mercies of the crude oil price since 1958 till date. Sadly, our Political leaders and followers have not been impressive. We need to have some deep thinking and fashion out policies for our long term growth and development. Total dependence on oil will grind this country to powder. We need to Change

1. God bless you my brother.
2. Seem the generation of our fathers and today's generation have wasted the greatest opportunity to prosperity. I urge anyone to get the book "THE PRIZE - The Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power" by Daniel Yergin. We will get to know that America attained virtually the offshoot and prosperity of every sector of their economy from Oil. Once oil was found, it spurred developments in Refineries, Automobiles - Both Land, Sea and Air, they even took the major decision of converting the coal based engines of Naval Ships to Gasoline. It led to rapid developments of roads, infrastructure...virtually everything
3. What Tinubu said in part is classic with our leaders just collecting and sharing money. What we should have invested in infrastructure, human capital etc is now what we pay 1000% more to a typical Tomopolo and the likes for security...
4. Dubai, Kuwait etc has built their economy on Oil and given birth to the World class tourism industry.........

We need to go back to the basic. We must meet look inwards and address domestic issues. Human Capital development, Infrastructures and Food must be rapidly accelerated.

JAkpayen:
I have observe intently as oil price has started falling since the middle of the year. The major heat started after US shut its door on our oil export. From an economic angle, every nation want to be self-sufficient rather than rely on others for economic growth.

The issue of oil price drop should have been foreseen when biofuel invention started. Nonetheless, from my observation the FG has plan B which is to diversify extensively in agriculture and agro-allied products for sustenance. But the big question: Can we reap the dividend from agriculture soon to sustain us?

1. My brother I think there is even a bigger problem in the offing. You're right in part about America shutting its door on our export. America will do much more than that.
2. There is likely going to be a price war in the Oil international market and countries like ours will get badly burnt.
3. America's shale oil and gas is more of the issue here. Even in America, at the major entrance of shale gas into domestic market, the price of gas dropped from almost $10 to less than $2. Now Imagine when they begin to flood the international market with these products, causing oversupply, and crashing the price further.
4. The Only thing preventing the scale shifting from OPECs, Russia and Venezuela to America, China and Canada (an probably briefly) is the cost of production of Shale Oil and Gas...... and when better technology in the offing causes low cost production we're toast.
5. The current price drop is an apparent signal to America from Saudi Arabia. The idea is to deter them with a warning signal, to moderate their aspiration of exporting shale oil and gas.
6. Hopefully the forth coming OPEC conference will regularize the Oil price and things will come up
7. But this is a great warning lesson to us all. For how long will we continue in Nigeria to pursue this rent seeking orientation. We keep creating states that are not sustainable. I dare say that I cannot count 3 other states apart from Lagos that can survive on IGR.
8. No wonder madam Okonjo's recent cry. Governors are going to get burnt. There monthly allocations are dwindling like crazy.

This is food for thought

oshyno:
From what I understand Tinubu to be saying, He opined that Austerity measure never solves the economic problem facing Nigeira.
But what I failed to point out is his progressive solution to the problem. Maybe another progressive will feel me in.

1. I think his write up is first to open a debate to challenge the status quo. It is not about proffering solution yet. He seeks to demystify the norm of using austere measure to solve economic downturn like we're are about to face.
2. The first challenge is for us to assess his submission and critique. I beg us all, let's not turn this into PDP vs. APC daft arguments that NL posts drift to

brainpower:
Here I was thinking that he wanted to give a clear and unbiased way to go above this oil price decline and once again I was proved wrong. He raised good points though but he didn't fail to bring in their usual PDP vs APC battle and blackmail. A typical example of enriching the rich which he accused pdp of is Lagos State. The govt schools are suffering, those living in the slumps are either chased out or are still suffering. He controls almost every govt investment in lagos state. The atlantic city and banana island and lekki etc are not meant for the poor. I will only hope they keep telling us how they will change the country by coming out the way he did. I like it and that's what nigerians are asking them to do but he spoilt it with his progressive and conservative speech. Why was fayemi voted out? Was it not cos he was more of an elitist governor?

My brother, Tinubu, raised a poser and actually wrote that his intention is to spun credible debate. All these your needless venom shrouded in ignorance is not going to help. I think you'll be better off to go back to the write up and seek to understand, because to me all what you wrote here is more like a D intellect trying to assess an A submission

anonimi:
I see that I have many silent, secret followers

You guys should know that there is a time & place for everything.
BTW, do you think TAP water should not be available all over in every state

......I was wondering why someone else was posting using your handle...

django1:

mapet: .....of all your vociferous illogical postings, I'm surprised you didn't regurgitate your same ole warped fables "pipe borne water..."

Hahaha...as if you saw my first reaction when I read anonimi's post! No red colored pipe borne water? Dude must have woken up with an head ache.

anonimi:
He is playing the politics of being selected as Buhari's second fiddle aka running mate hence aresa is on overdrive for the past few days or so.

Let's wish them plenty of luck.

.....of all your vociferous illogical postings, I'm surprised you didn't regurgitate your same ole warped fables "pipe borne water..."

Sincere9gerian:
It seems Fashola is just playing cheap politics with Lagosians because the current electricity laws and regulations allows state governors to build power plants, embed it locally and distribute it to any target people locally without going through any national grid. This is the current situation. Fashola should stop telling wicked lies. No law stops him from building a power plant that will power ikeja for instance and distribute it using the ikeja distribution company which is now a private entity

You just spew ignorance and half baked information........

So the same law that enable state governors to build power plants, yet does not permit them to distribute it means what? Where were you wen Lagos State government put up a bid for Ikeja Disco, yet were disqualified because the law precluded state governments from bidding directly or indirectly.

Might I add why would Lagos State government build power plants for private Discos? Is that even the problem of captive power provision? You are simply ignorant, yet vociferous?

If we're paying the right consumption rate to guarantee returns on investments, do you think investors would not have build sufficient captive power plants to feed the Discos......and the laws permit the Discos to build captive power of their own

It's not expensive, yet pps are sweating.....

Sunofgod:
Some old $1000 caravan? - SMH

zeelo2014:
It's a RV.

You beat me to it. This is a family RV. I'm thinking of getting one for my family too; and start RV culture in Nigeria too.

1. You mean APC should stand on the podium in Oshodi, or Upper Iweka and tell people " we will give you 2% tax breaks"......and might I point out the obvious, how do you expect the ordinary man on the street to appreciate that? Will that solve his problems? Besides if we are addressing a business community, we'd communicate to suit the target audience.

2. My brother, I never said the average Nigerian need not ask for detailed plans, and wonder the necessity of your needless inference. I simply pointed out the misuse of the UK Labour Party metric extract in their manifesto which you naively think it's the totality.
3. I also hold no responsibility for your inability or refusal to comprehend APC's wealth generation strategy. PDP has always thrown money at people so it's not surprising you can't decider between it and stimulating empowerment through the consequent effect - improved school enrollment, reduced infant maternity, increase in workforce population.
4. Don't kill yourself with the 4MB thingy. Lagosian do know what we have delivered through thick and thin, how we have delivered beyond our promise in many areas. The 4MB will come to fruition and in a more sustainable way. If we can deliver Lekki Express way and the world class road on the the Badagry corridor, then it's only a matter of time.

datolee:
Here lies the problem of both APC, PDP and Nigerians, according to you, Average Nigerians do not need to ask for detail plans and policies of any Government because they will not understand it.. your solution s very simple, throw money at them! when that doesn't solve the problem, throw more money at them. I don't know about you, but if we are to believe every promises Nigerian's politicians make, Nigeria would have been the greatest country on earth!

I think londoner hit the nail on the head! I won't go further than what he said, that is exactly my position.

Final point, as per the 4th mainland bridge, what I wanted to highlight on that part is that Nigerian politicians don't do research nor understudy before making bogus promises that they cannot fulfill. You cannot tell me that after BRF first term, he didn't know about the difficulties in constructing 4th mainland bridge, but he still used the same rhetoric for his re-election. It is the responsibility of us the citizens to ask questions, keep these politicians on their toe rather than swallowing every lies they tell hook line and sinker.

This reminds of popular saying in my state, when a man is in desperate to sleep with a man, he will make so many promises like "If i go shoe, i will buy you Onitsha" instead of if I go onitsha I will buy you a shoe. The goal of politicians is to get the votes, therefore they will make ambiguous promises like spending 30.2% of total budget on vulnerable 25 million people.

Bros,

1. I am from Oba Ile.
2. I have had lots of family members in the teaching sector (Osun folks like Ekiti are majorly civil servants with a majority in teaching) I have a cousin who teaches in a secondary school in Ikire, I have another cousin that retired as a principal during Akande's era. I have an Aburo teaching in St. John's Oba. I am in touch with the the system
3. Aregbesola's reform was lauded both locally and internationally. Even the Senate Committee on Education led by Chukwumerije

obayaya:
Bros, I don't know what UN applauded and what they didn't. But believe me when I say that most of the secondary schools in osun are understaffed..

I know a school that has less than 10 teachers. The rest are corps members. Take a tour of the schools in the rural areas and see for yourself

1. I think the first problem we have is that the PDP government have killed the spirit of debates in this country. More and more PDP candidates avoid debates, so we are having situation when we can throw this into the open
2. Social services and subsidies work more on creating a sustainable system of generating returns that fuels those taxes. How do you want to sustain and increase returns from taxation if you do not increase jobs and potential to increase incomes.
3. The important things are get people credibly engaged for starters and work on how to increase return. Lagos State government demonstrated this in no small measure by increasing the IGR from 600m Tinubu met on ground to over 20B of Fashola today, with a projection to double this by the turn of the decade. If Lagos State had relied on taxation alone (which a huge % don't pay), how do you think this height could have been attained.
4. Government creating enabling environment could require government making the first move to attract investors. We need to put our money where our mouth is in this case to further convince investors. Government could exit the market when the conditions are ok to self-sustain.

Your position that APC are not realistic is what I'm yet to understand. It is either you're content with the current abysmal state or you're not disposed to change.

I still maintain that let there be series of debates leading to the election. Let not any candidate request for questions ahead of the debate as Jonathan required the last time. Let us all lay our manifesto at the altar of public scrutiny..

londoner:
Well, the intentions presented by APC are good, but I think they are going down a road of dependence to get votes, without the system in place to ensure Nigeria does not sink under it.


I know we want to replicate what we have in the west, but I wonder how much actual research or understudying of those systems they have done.

Social services, subsidies only work on the back of an ever replenishing system of tax. In other places, most people pay tax and that is what pays for all the services provided to those who both have and have not. Even if one or two states were able to do this, we are talking about 36 states doing this at once, and being paid for by the government. Will this be done yearly, or just for the lucky few that happen to be able to benefit from the election year?

It looks as though they want the government to spend, but in the absence of a robust national system of taxation that receives a simultaneous inflow, the gov will quickly bankrupt itself.



I think the role of the gov is to create an enabling environment for investors while they skill up citizens as a ready workforce. In a way, part of this, is what is being described, but they are painting a picture which I think is far too simplistic. Or even more, promising what can not be delivered in practice or at least as quickly as people are being encouraged to expect it.

I like that they will create programmes to provide funding for business, but it's only for those who have already secured funding elewhere, which leaves the poorest in society dependent on stipends from the government.

There needs to be help for small business start ups or sole traders. The woman selling akara can also become an employer if she is able to expand and develop her business skills.

How can we use what is already on ground to create jobs? As well as starting new initiatives?


Industries/sectors need to be ready to recieve all those trained, also, we can easily have a situation where we have yet more unemployed certificate holders. They don't seem to be talking on these things and I suspect it is because they want to , at this time, key into the "give me" mentality of the average Nigerian. Many will hear that they will recieve money, then switch off, before the details......lol

PDP does the same.


I'm not saying APC are wrong, but I believe they are not being realistic or really looking at the bigger picture of Nigeria. Hopefully, more will come to light leading up to the election.

At least they have policies aimed at the common person, the foundation of Nigeria.

datolee:
As an end note, when I talk about rhetoric of Nigerian politicians, remember when BRF promised 4th mainland bridge in his first and second campaign? when it was time for implantation, he had this to say “And to construct a kilometer of that bridge is about N40 billion, so the issue is that we also need to factor the cost of demolishing the 318 buildings into the project. Alot of these buildings are beautiful houses.” The question therefor is, didn't he know about those beautiful house before promising Lagosians 4th mainland bridge?

Just like Fashola and 4th mainland bridge, I will take APC road map to nowhere as rhetoric and usual political propaganda.

Don't get it twisted. Yes BRF promised 4th mainland bridge and could not deliver it, but we can jolly well excuse that on many grounds
1. The challenge on interpretation of control of waters with FG is enough disincentives for investors
2. Did he promise other bridges he built? - Isolo, Lekki-Ikoyi, for example?
3. The hallmark of a great leader is the ability to recognize implications, acknowledge realities and make amendments when necessary. His admission on the current infeasibility should even be applauded. Yes he didn't get the total picture of the implication. But tell me all these while, why you lots in PDP could not come out with lucid and articulated counter arguments during campaign debates?
4. What is more important is 4MB needs to and will eventually be built, but the bigger picture is how it serves to enhance the economy of Lagos state, it's synergy with the Lekki FTZ, Lekki and Victoria Island environs and further opening Ikorodu axis to greater prosperity.

[quote author=datolee ]9. I think you just agreed with me that mare talking and implementation are two different thing.. until I read how APC will implement those policies, I regard it as mare talking and as usual, rhetoric of Nigerian politicians devoid of strategical planning and implementation.
[/quote]Can you fault the current housing scheme of the Lagos State government LAGOSHOMS? therein lies the tip of the iceberg

[quote author=datolee ]8. If everything is done by the FG including creating vocational and skill acquisition centre, I wonder what is the work of the LGAs and states. Talk about making the centre even more powerful than it should be while most Nigerians are talking of power devolution to states and LGAs[/quote]1. Is this your new line of argument when your initial position has been floored?
2. Don't worry about who does what FG or LG. The strategy will be cascaded to the grassroot level.....
3. Remember the manifesto had talked about FG matching jobs created by states, don't you see a proposed synergy therein......and it goes on and on......

[quote author=datolee ]5. Well, lets assume high population, low labour cost.. but have you asked companies the cost of running a business in Nigeria compared to other countries? you need to factor those in[/quote]The seeming high production cost has conceptually be netted off comparatively. Compare the labour cost alone in Nigeria with US or Singapore.

[quote author=datolee ]4. I still maintain that by this road map to nowhere, APC is a father Christmas that will bankrupt this country!. How will they achieve all these promises and still carry out any meaningful capital development? All we keep hearing is oil, oil and oil... APC where is road map[/quote]1. Unfortunately I cannot help you here, because you have not opened up for credible debate, if you still maintain.
2. I do belive APC is a vanguard of using our oil money to accelerate capital development. Fashola recently challenge the government on the folly of having over 60% recurrent expenditure even when the Oil price had exceeded the $100 mark for almost a decade. That should have been the time a serious government commit to rapid development.

[quote author=datolee ]3. My point is that we have had so many industrial estates and FTZs in Nigeria and nothing substantial has come out of them. Again, how do APC intend to make theirs work? they still have not told us.. maybe because they just don't know how to go about it![/quote]1. If we have so many industrial estates and nothing substantial has come out of them, then it can be inferred that the current government has no clue on how to create value from them.
2. FTZs is not child's play, needs adequate planning and perseverance in its evolution. FTZs are more like building cities from the scratch, and when you consider the requirements from power generation to Seaport and construction, rail and road transportation systems..........
3. How APC intends to make FTZs work has always been communicated at least in Lagos State. It is either you're oblivious of it or cannot understand it, even when some educate you lots on NL as far back as 4years ago https://www.nairaland.com/377248/lekki-free-trade-zone-lagos

[quote author=datolee ]2. First of all, I have no problem with number, I will repeat it again, 5,000 x 25, 000,000 = 125,000,000,000 (one hundred and twenty-five billion) per month will give you 1.5 trillion Naira per year. I really don't about you, but i can bet my last naira that no Government in Nigeria will achieve this in the next 10 - 20 years!
If you are in support that 30.2% of Nigeria's 2014 budget be spent on phantom elderly and vulnerable citizens, then, my friend, you are living in a fantasy land!

What is even more bizarre is that this so called 125,000,000,000 will be transferred in cash! it is not even setting up initiatives like free medicare, free transportation e.t.c. how are we sure that this money will end in private pockets?

By the way, without proper documentation of Nigerians, how did your party, APC, come about these 25 million people? According to report in premium times, 112 million Nigerians live below poverty level as at 2012.. where and how did this 25 million people come about?

Another point, what will 5,000 naira per month achieve in this present Nigeria when the minimum wage is 18,000 naira? so why waste 125 billion per month, 1.5 trillion naira per year, 30.2% of our 2014 budget on frivolities that will add little to no value to the beneficiaries?

Again to underscore APC level of confusion, Obiageli was on one hand advocating the FG doing a 55 - 45 budget, yet sees no problem spending 30.2% on elderly and vulnerable citizens.[/quote]1. Are we not better off plugging corruption, stealing and sleaze and ploughing it back to welfare schemes. I'm not impressed with your resort to absolute figures, FG budgets whose performance in itself has been questioned of late to what is actualized.
2. This initiative is better put "nexused" to enrolment rate in schools, to increase education enrolment, increase precision on data capture and maintenance..... I still insist that the easiest thing to do is the data gathering.
3. The funny bit is that in your rush to condemn what you bare understood, you did not bother to read the statement properly. First off it is called a conditional cash transfer. 2. It is targeted at a projected 25million poorest and vulnerable people upon demonstration
of children’s enrolment in school and immunization, to help promote job empowerment. So your question is misplaced. The 25million people will be determined on assumption of office and there are criteria that qualifies you for that.
4. Even inferring from above, it is important to note that the cash transfer is multipronged value target. It will stimulate and increase enrollment in schools, encourage immunization, hence reduce infant mortality, increase the workforce to sustain empowerment. Definitely there will be returns on these investments, so the cash transfer is not a donations as you erroneously perceive it but seed to stimulate growth
5. If you also consider how much Nigeria has and is currently hemorrhaging on Insecurity (Boko Haram, Niger-Delta boys monthly Settlement, Corruption and sleaze) then what is the monthly 5k

[quote author=datolee ]Like I said in my opening statement, the so-called road map is usual rhetoric of Nigerian politicians devoid of strategical planning or implementation.

1. This is not the time to be talking about pilot scheme or driver scheme.. we are less than 5 months to the election!!! please tell us what this pilot scheme is!! Simple question to you is, How will APC led government generate 20,000 jobs per state?? I don't need pilot or okada scheme. What type of job are they creating?.. this is what you call road map! something that will lead to somewhere with a definite timeline.

This is the same way we keep hearing.. we will fight corruption if elected, Boko haram will end within 1 month of us winning, all Nigerian roads will be done with 1 day of our government blah blah blah... tell us, how you are going to get it done!! it is that simple. If you can't tell us, then it's just the usual noise. I will give an example of what is called a road map to recovery.. what opposition paties in advanced countries do

Take UK for example, they will have general election like us in 2015, and this is how Labour party (opposition party) campaign about bringing budget deficit down : 1. cap rises in child welfare payments at 1 percent for the first two years of the next parliament. 2. curb welfare spending, including capping subsidies for heating to exclude wealthy pensioners. 3. reintroduction of 50p income tax rate, raise more taxes from properties worth more than 2 million pounds and tighten tax rules for hedge fund executives.

To any lay person, you can clearly see their road map, what they intend to do, how they intend to go about it... only then you can analyze their proposition and decide whether to vote them or not. What we keep hearing about APC is creating 20,000 job per state, the type of job is not known, how it will be achieved is not known.

Lastly on point number 1, to underscore your confusion, please check the type of job creating you are referring and what Obiageli wrote in the OP.[/quote]1. It's either you've decided to not to see reason or choose to see from your pov. Both ways are for you to decide anyways
2. The manifesto simply state objectives to provide Jobs, to match every job created by the state with double from the FG. We had gone ahead to elucidate that there are huge gaps in areas ranging from Government investments in Agric Investment, Capital Constructions, health care support, etc as areas these new recruits who as the manifesto stated will be trained by the government the places where these people will work? I wonder what more you're looking for? Do you want the government to place them in Blue chips or Banks
3. You supply me with an extract of the British Labour party offering and you call that a road map. You do not understand what a roadmap is, at least not in this context. Let's even review what you submitted. So APC should go to an average Nigerian and tell them in their manifesto something like " we will cap interbank settlement rate at 9%.....blablabla", please tell me what is the use of that to the average Nigerian of today? Those things you brought in the Labour party statements are extracts of a big pictures cascaded into metrics. They are meaningless when you don't relate them to an overarching objective, and at best useless measures.

I called a friend who is one of their managers. She got back to me and said she called HR and they are NOT recruiting.........

oluwanoni:
Are u sure they are recruiting...but no harm in trying...i wrote their test last year and passed two of their interview, a lot of peeps dey waiting list, thats why i am bit skpetical....but no harm in trying tho.

This is the height of delusion grandeur. so companies cyclical employment is the well thought out industrial policies of Jonathan/Sambo are you a kid or something?

anonimi:
While the FRAUDSTERS in the Arewa People's Congress, APC are promising road map to a mirage for their clueless followers, the well thought out industrial policies of the Jonathan/Sambo team is yielding job opportunities with local companies that are steadily increasing their production as importation is being reduced =>

https://www.nairaland.com/1943287/nestle-nigeria-plc-needs-field

https://www.nairaland.com/1949324/nigerian-breweries-graduate-trainee-recruitment

https://www.nairaland.com/1365170/guinness-nigeria-plc-graduate-sales

https://www.nairaland.com/1327689/2013-chevron-nigeria-graduate-trainee

https://www.nairaland.com/1911463/jobs-experienced-nigerians

https://www.nairaland.com/1859417/diamond-bank-2014-recruitment

https://www.nairaland.com/1572864/sss-cadet-course-28-2014

https://www.nairaland.com/1790584/shortlisted-candidates-nigerian-army-2014

https://www.nairaland.com/1398541/federal-civil-service-commission-fcsc

https://www.nairaland.com/1875632/follow-trend-portharcourt-jobs#25862238

https://www.nairaland.com/1313943/access-bank-starts-recruitment-graduate

https://www.nairaland.com/1947828/heritage-bank-cv-submission-october

anonimi:
How many of Aregberascal's OYES graduates have been on the "empowerment" scheme for more than 12 months

How many have not? The tenure of each participant on the scheme is 2years, and you have seen 2 graduations. So what's your drift?

1. You cannot turn logic on it's head by simply restarting the worn out rhetoric. If you lot in PDP term value creation to be born out of the outcome of states being under the control of PDP, then you lots have placed limit of your reasoning.
2. The works of Lagos State government in providing basic facilities and amenities are there for all to see. No matter what you lots say to discredit it. Why do you lot keep having headaches with the spate of development in Lagos, yet cannot offer credible criticism but lies. Of a truth a whole lot has been done, and of a truth there is more to do.
3. Do you always develop stomach upset when Fashola's strides are shown to you or something?

anonimi:
How many of the 36 states and 774 LGAs are under APC control and what is the job creation there
For the past 15 plus years plus Lagos has been completely under APC rule, what is the level of job creation through provision of BASIC facilities and amenities so far?

Is this not the rational baisi to know what they can and will do if promoted to the centre?

1. You need to lay off what you don't know about or rather stop spewing lies.
2. The United Nations bodies that applauded Aregbesola's Youth Empowerment programs and the bodies that gave him award for it, were blind and did not see what you "concocted" yet gave him the award?
3. I know for a fact that teaching applications in Osun state had always been oversubscribed right from the 80s, so your "open secrete" is a figment of your imagination.

obayaya:
And you think the best way to solve the problem is employing them to cut grass and pay them 10k per month (in the case of Osun state). When it is an open secret that Osun state relies on corps members to fill up more than 40 percent of the teaching staff needs of her secondary school.

Sacrificing viable long term strategies on the alter of short term media glory.

At the end of the day, these secondary school that relies on corps members to teach virtually all the subjects ends up churning more and more of these guys you spoke about in your post. And the cycle continues.

At the end of the day, work done = 0.

@ datolee, let me engage you a bit

1. The APC led FG needs not mandate states irrespective of their party to follow the policy. First off, there are blue prints that cover the whole country. I had given an example of South African Railway strategy, for example. All the APC government needs to do is to come up with a sustainable employment aiding initiatives, pilot in APC controlled and some other states that can buy into the initiatives for starters. Also don't forget the fact that there are lines when national interest overrides and it is irrespective of party; case in point, the power aspiration. A huge, water-tight, sustainable strategy from a federal government will, will spin-off the necessary catalyst in states.

2. Your contrary point 2 turns logic on its' head. First off, identifying elderlies and vulnerable citizen is not rocket science, a first phase can be established in 6months. The Lagos State government has an ongoing initiative called LASRAB, I also know OSUN, ONDO, PH, and some Northern states have started one form of initiative to enumerate either a section or a whole of their coverage area. We have failed in the past with national census, but the parallel census Tinubu's government did in Lagos back then is the reference point even from international bodies used to estimate the population of Lagos. Back then Lagos state identified some classical points in the over 16m population, one of them namely, that we have over 4million registered houses in Lagos.

I'm also persuaded to emphasis that enumeration is important in planning, so either through elderly program schemes, school enrolments, state date enrolment etc. peoples demographics and stats needs to be established.

You also need to check your numbers, 5thousand times 25million is simply 125million.

3. The need to flesh out your usual "Nigerian Estates and FTZs" is probably important to check your understanding of its essence and implication. But in addition to that, If we look at it from the point of view of the aspiration for incubators and industrial clusters to revamp the yawning gaps and deficits, balance of trades, employment, and consequent boosters to related sectors of the economy, then you'd get the big picture. If a train can connect to the Lekki FTZ from Kano via Iddo to the proposed Lagos rail on the Lekki corridor, you can imagine the gap that will be bridged. If the proposed International Airport can handle 3-4times the volumes MM airports are struggling with in operations efficiencies, space, road nextworks...... I mean no single rail line connects to any of our international airports..... But I think we need to try look in the telescope, what are the "byproducts" of free trade zones? A major project the Ministry of Gas and Power has been toiling to land, since the days of Yar' Adua to date is the National Gas Park to be situated at Ogidigben. This should birth industries like Petrochemicals, Fertilizers, Domestic Gas, Gas for Export etc.

Estates are important, as they have direct ties to increasing the incomes that come to government in terms of ground rents and land charges, this is aside from closing the gap on housing. The newer concept when lots of skyscrapers are beginning to take the places of small houses will help further make houses more affordable comparatively. So startups can situate their offices in high commercial areas by taking small space of a 25th floor of 30floor building on Lagos Atlantic City.

4. APC are not Father Christmas. They have simply come to point out few gospel truths that we're sitting on gold mine and we can mine it. That we can use the Oil money to accelerate true development. That we should accelerate massive capital projects especially when the Oil price is high and much more that investments in these capital projects will further bring prosperity as evidenced with Asian Tigers

5. Your number 5 is laughable. To your question about Nigerians comparative and competitive advantage in phone production? 1. Population = viable market, 2. Lower Labor cost - same reason Apple took theirs to China 3. Viable alternative market space for Apples' competitors. Why do you think Samsung's market strength is in sub-Saharan Africa?

6. Good enough you agree with the index-linked pricing strategy. The need to do this is to create a balance in the coverage of the produces to all works of life. Let me give you a funny example, if Nigeria suddenly becomes the largest exporter of leather (it could be farm produce), there will come a time where it will make more sense to the farmer to either horde his produces and wait for exporters who will pay a higher price, than sell in the open market. Nutshell we may have a situation where, even though we produce in large quantity, it is still expensive. So government will setup a price intermediation and management company who coordinates the who and how the produce will be sold. To the exporter, they sell at premium and gains on these premium will be used to pay the farmers the difference on the sales to the local consumers.

These are just examples of how we can creatively unearth wealth that are already locked in

7. When you keep saying money, money, money everywhere.......I'm tempted to believe you don't want to constructively critique on purpose. What is difficult in government creating a sinking/revolving from some defined income streams and excesses to drive startups, that will in turn increase employment and much more create more wealth. Lagos State government demonstrated that with the Security Trust Fund, the business sectors bought into it and has been a robust approach to crime reduction and equipping security agencies, a deficit rent sharing has not been able to solve.

8. The job of FG is to ensure each citizens is adequately catered for. So it means starting vocational centers in all LGs which they can then privatize later when they are commercially viable and can self sustain, then so be it. Let's be real, which business man will invest in vocational training center today just like that, when there are hardly any organized sectors the graduands will feed. But the government whilst creating structures needs to side-by-side start this centers and institutions to create a sustainable skill acquisition and value actualization strategy.

9. The Federal Mortgage scheme is largely in doldrums, not accessible, and needs total rework. The federal government's housing policies and it's realities are there for us to see in all these years. The Lagos State government has indeed been running a transparent and better strategy

10. As a short term measure, the FG can do one of the following - Provide a revolving fund, what excess crude oil returns should do if the constitution permit for example or Reenact People's Bank/Fortify the base of Bank of Industry to offer loan support to the small scale industries at a government indexed rate.

11. Obiageli's answer on this is on point and no more to add

datolee:
This is a road map to no where... just the usual rhetoric of Nigerian politicians devoid of strategical planning or implementation.

1. Why should it be the responsibility of FG to employ 20,000 workers equivalent of Lagos State Government, Lastma, lawma, kai, public works, lagbus? Will the APC led FG make it a mandatory that all state irrespective of being a APC controlled state to follow this policy or will these 20,000 workers be employed by the FG directly?

If they are employed by the FG, then what is the job function of the like of FRSC, Civil defence and others? If it is for states to create, why haven't APC mandated all of its states to follow the rule? or must they wait until they are in control of the centre?


2. It is very hard to tell if this "road map" is really from the APC because if it is, then, I'm afraid but they are just bunch of noise makers.

First, without a valid national database of all Nigerians, please explain to us how these elderly and vulnerable citizens will be identified? Moreover, what does this mean "upon demonstration of children’s enrollment in school and immunization"?

Secondly, it seems people are just playing with numbers. N5,000 multiplies by 25,000,000 elderly and vulnerable citizens gives you 125 billion Naira per month which is 1.5 trillion Naira per year

The Nigeria budget for 2014 is 4.962 trillion Naira, we are talking about spending 30.2% of Nigeria's total budget on phantom "elderly and vulnerable citizens" APC, daris God oh!!

3. Again, this hardly any strategic planning other the usual Nigerian estates and FTZs

4. Again, what APC promise is money, money and more money!! are they father Christmas if I may ask?

5. The first question to ask is, what is the comparative and competitive advantage of Nigeria in terms of mobile phone production? you would think that Apple, for example are stupid by manufacturing their phones in china. What are the policies that will make made in Nigerian phone attractive to foreign market? and what are the incentives for mobile phone manufacturer to establish plants in Nigeria?

6. This is actually a good policy, just as it is done in Thailand for rice and sugar cane farmers, if it is implemented, it will be a welcome development and boast agriculture in Nigeria however, this system is always abused. Read the case of Yingluck Shinawatra.

7. Again, money, money and more money... at this rate, Nigeria will go bankrupt in less than a year

8. I give you pass mark.. but this is actually not the job of FG if we are being honest

9. How is this different from the National Housing Fund provided by the Federal Mortgage Bank Of Nigeria?

10. How do you magically increase the number of small and medium-sized enterprises? by given them more money or what policies? for a start in a country where bank lending rate starts from 12% per annum, how will small and medium-sized enterprises grow?

11. Finally, if I may ask, if APC trying to change our social and economic system from capitalist to socialist?

brown3:
u idiotic. Nigerians re wiser now. U dont win election wit lies and propaganda. apc aka boko haran party re wasting there time, energy and money. Nigerians will only chop there money and vote for the pdp, after all it our it stollen money they re spending. If u like make u no demand for ur own share make u dey form activist.

1. I dare to restate that you're a shallow upstart, struggling to comprehend basic things, for you starting from the bottom is aiming too high.
2. Anybody that collects money before, during and after the election is simply foolish. The giver himself doesn't deserve any better, so whatever money you're alluding to, I believe, is even the more reason to state that you're in the wrong discussion on intellectual scale
3. For you to read credible discourse as resort to activism is the more reason why I continue to point your shallow thinking.

......and this made the a page? NL has indeed gone to the dogs.......

brown3:
story story. Tell that lie to ur fellow jajanweedian.

I can understand you and you ilk, when things get way beyond you intellectually, you can only come up with lines above. Don't worry, we understand you are incapable of operating at this level

Obiagelli:

obua: Most of these measures can't create jobs that are sustainable.
What we need to focus on is to create businesses in areas where we import finished products and export raw materials.Areas like clothing and textiles, rice ,sugar,electronics and IT goods..What determines the sustainability is who is the final consumer of goods and services.If we train 1million welders and there is no welding project/service to engage them its all in vain.Among the Nigerian governors I think only Rauf Aregbesola has understood these dynamics very well.
America under Bill Clinton created AGOA to help low income countries access to American large consumer markets. Nigeria has not been able to really harness this opportunity.
Governance is all about ideas to advance the welfare of the people and solve problems while for us in Nigeria its all about massaging the problems and making noise

Thats why vocational training is a priority for the Apc, their graduates get grants to get them started. The only welfare in that policy is for the elderly and weak.

@Obua & @ Obiagelli

1. Sustainable jobs has its root in sustainable development, yet this must be supported with the right skilled manpower, so I believe you both have the same drift.
2. Even our local artisans come up short with some of the quality of jobs they deliver. I guess many of them are victims of tutelage under bosses with questionable training themselves. We cannot but advocate the need to "proliferate" vocational training institution and tightly connect them to the spate of development projected. When Mile12-Ikorodu road was about to be started, can you imagine that the local welders recruited had to be trained for 4months, before the commencement of the project. These are our welders for God's sakes....
3. Aregbesola's model is a practical winning model any day. Any serious body should go and copy it. The Kano State government copied his educational strategy and implementing it. His Agric strategy had truly won his many laurels. The Ipon Imo is a classic success, this is something UNESCO and UN had struggled to successfully push to us in the days of 1computer per student, yet he came and made the aspiration a reality. 5years from now, we only to watch the massive growth spurned by increase in computer literacy.
4. I want APC government on assumption to give a solid blue print strategy on Road and Transport infrastructure. This is the greatest wining strategy a government can adopt. What we've had in the past and at the moment is simply rubbish. South Africa, post the World Cup hosting, published a 50year strategic plan on rail transport. We need to connect the major hub of the country by rail, providing a sustainable means of haulage of goods to many parts of the country. We can then free our roads to light vehicular movement. With good roads comes opening up of new areas for industries, companies and residential buildings.