₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
LOL. . . you are funny.

Please, next time, at least make sure you are consulting the right source for your info. 

Again . . .

Mariory:
Yes the population factor has always been there however, only now is Lagos using data that it has collected about the population to plan development for the State. And what's becoming clear is that there is no way the pace of development can match the pace at which the population is increasing.

The trend is not the same by the way. The population has always increased. However for decades, infrastructure development has stagnated. You must know this. Anyone over 20 years of age is aware of this. The Military dictatorships of the late 80's and the 90's screwed Lagos over big time in terms of infrastructure. There is a big gap between what Lagos State can accommodate and the population of Lagos.

Finally do you even know what a megacity is? Lagos is not dreaming of being a megacity. Lagos State is a megacity.

Kobojunkie:
^^^^Here is a simple question for you. Are you suggesting that the population of NYC is 22 million and not the ~ 8 million recorded from the 2010 census?    Are we also to assume that the population of the city of Los Angeles is ~18 million as against the ~4 million number reported from the 2010 election?

Kobojunkie:
A megacity is usually defined as a metropolitan area with a total population in excess of 10 million people.[1] Some definitions also set a minimum level for population density (at least 2,000 persons/square km).[citation needed] A megacity can be a single metropolitan area or two or more metropolitan areas that converge. The terms conurbation, metropolis and metroplex are also applied to the latter. The terms megapolis and megalopolis are sometimes used synonymously with megacity.[citation needed]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacity


A simple wikipedia check would have helped!

shawonlese:
Monaco has no crime, no poverty, no unemployment, no pollution and no income tax. Despite astronomical land value, buildings are limited to 12 stories. Whatever is unbuilt is park or garden. Pines, broom trees and aromatic plants have been planted along the country's borders to create a regional forest, however modest its dimension. In neighborhoods where the nannies of rich, famous and royal infants push their prams, the Latin names for flowers in curbside patches are common knowledge.

Law enforcement in Monaco is provided by an armed national police force consisting of 515 men and women.[1] With 515 police officers for 32,000 people in 1.96km², Monaco has the largest police force and police presence in the world on both a per-capita and per-area basis

Monaco is widely known for its safety and security with the highest ratio of police-per person of any country in the world. This was particularly emphasized by the late Prince Rainier III who was determined to keep organized crime from establishing a foothold in his country. However, Monaco is not immune to crime and yesterday seven men, described as looking like Central Americans, robbed the Credit Foncier Monaco bank on Port Hercules. The bandits got away with 100,000 euros after creating a distraction during which time two of the men jumped behind the counter to grab the cash.

Kobojunkie:
2)[/b]Again, personal assumptions/conclusions do not equate to facts. Offering up disconnected retorts does not win you anything. It remains that population trend it not directly connected with development levels.

Kobojunkie:
[b]3) Lagos, the STATE(population ~17 million), is NOT Lagos, the CITY(population ~ 7 million). Now go back to the State website to verify this. Or better yet consider how absurd it would be to consider a small area as NY city(population ~8 million), to all of Lagos the state when considering mega ***CITY*** status of any of the locations.

The many hiccups in the use of paper tickets on the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) and Bus Franchise Scheme (BFS) will be eliminated with the soon-to-be-deployed e-ticketing system, Dr. Dayo Mobereola, Managing Director, Lagos Metropolitan Area Transport Authority (LAMATA) has assured. The pilot scheme commenced on Monday 6th June 2011. . .

Kobojunkie:
I know you are a do-or-die defender of Fashola, the man, and so I don't think it is in your benefit to continue these shoddy attempts, by your person, to score one for your man by pretending to dispute that which you have obviously not taken time to understand.

a) After a Census, it is Not rocket science that data collected is used to plan development for states and nation as a whole. Data from the last census, data was utilized during the last voter registration process, the elections, and even when states allocate funds(even with all the corrupt, the data is considered at some level). Even the World bank takes advantage of the same population data. So, no, use of data in developmental planning is no novel idea.

b) Population trends have always existed independent of the levels of infrastructural development. The one is not dependent on the other. That the population trend has remained about as expected for a long time now, is no rationalization for continued decay in infrastructure, and it certainly is not reason enough for why the decay cannnot be tackled at speeds possible today, compared to decades ago.

c) A megacity is a city with an official population level at at least 10 (mega) million. According to Lagos State, the City itself is not at 10 million -- if you visit the Lagos state site, you would know that the official figure still being provided is the ~7million figure out there. 

Seriously, you need to learn to READ UP ON DISCUSSIONS before you jump in at the end thinking you are the brightest in the room for that. This is the umpteenth time I am having to tell you this.

federalist:
My humble observation:

Eko ile and other Fashola backers has never started any post criticising orji Uzo Kalu, Theodore Orji, Saminu Turaki, Rotimi Amechi, Timi Silva, Jonah Jang etc

Why is only Fashola that is being haranged evryday on this forum?

Lagosian gave Fashola over 80% of their votes in 2011!

Fashola was the campaign material in Acn in 2011 i.e  Go and see what Fashola is doing in Lagos"

Most (NOT ALL) critics of Fashola are non-Yoruba OR even non-lagosians!

Eleko himself, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has not condemned the young Man nor any other white cap chiefs.

Why are some people being holier than the pope?

Is there a petty jealousy simmering under all these attacks?

Kobojunkie:
Look, the population has always been there . . .  the trend the same . . . the only factor that has remained same all this time is slowness in government's ability to catch up with demand. With megacity dreams must also come mega-city abilities to provide for infrastructural needs, and at mega-city pace.

Kobojunkie:
[size=16pt]Look, what I see people doing here, with these unsubstantiated claims of overpopulation/population pressure[/size], is attempting to create a sort of excuse/rationale for why Government in Lagos should not be held responsible for the continued level of decay in the state, even after 12 years of supposed development.

[size=16pt]This is a State has yet to officially complain of overpopulation[/size] -- I mean this is a state that boasts of the highest GDP in much of west Africa today, all thanks to the population. The same state continously flaunts it's MEGACITY projects -- projects geared towards making Lagos the largest in the world, right? Well, guess what, when you go for world status megacity, population increase follows. You can't have it in isolation.

[size=16pt]So, if the state is not complaining[/size], we need to stop with the fear-mongering and learn to deal with known facts.

In order to reduce pressure on the state, it is important that governments across the country embrace good governance.

Lagos is renowned to be very accommodating and liberal; it is an open secret that a good percentage of the patients that use the health facilities in the state come from neighbouring states. Lagos, indeed, is one of the states where residency, ethnic and political divides are not considered for people to enjoy the dividends of democracy.

This is, however, coming at a price: the enormous population that troops into the State from all over the world has far- reaching consequences on infrastructures in the state.

The presence of people from diverse walks of life is partly responsible for the prosperity of Lagos. It is ironic, however, that the prosperity of Lagos has also brought a huge pressure on the state as its sheer human population puts serious pressure on infrastructure in the state.

Kobojunkie:
Look, what I see people doing here, with these unsubstantiated claims of overpopulation/population pressure, is attempting to create a sort of excuse/rationale for why Government in Lagos should not be held responsible for the continued level of decay in the state, even after 12 years of supposed development.

This is a State has yet to officially complain of overpopulation -- I mean this is a state that boasts of the highest GDP in much of west Africa today, all thanks to the population. The same state continously flaunts it's MEGACITY projects -- projects geared towards making Lagos the largest in the world, right? Well, guess what, when you go for world status megacity, population increase follows. You can't have it in isolation.

So, if the state is not complaining, we need to stop with the fear-mongering and learn to deal with known facts.

Reference:
Indeed a recent study reveals that over [size=13pt][color=#770077]25,000 people from across the world move into Lagos for various reasons on a daily basis.

To say or mean 25,000 people move into or locate to Lagos on a daily basis will no doubt empty the population of the remaining states and capitals of Nigeria in just 13 years when we know they are all growing simultaneously.

seunlayi:
mistake? and he collected the money,

seunlayi:
This is one of the ways our leaders are using to enrich themselves.

ocelot2006:
I'm so glad someone brought this topic up. I currently reside in LAGOS (temporarily, thank God), and I must say that I'm definitely not impressed with what I see here. The whole place is filthy, clogged up, flooded, with patched roads, even on the so-called high brow island. Seriously, some of you need to visit states like akwa ibom, rivers, enugu, and see how their respective governors have performed in providing quality infrastructures that are sustainable.

[size=14pt]Yoruba leaders didn’t speak for me[/size]

[size=14pt]Igbo have sense of belonging under Jonathan –Ebigwei [/size]

jmaine:
Something is not right with this suicidal stories . . the guy had the opportunity to blow up himself once in the force headquarters to incur huge collateral damage but allowed himself to be persuaded or coerced  to go to the car park before doing himself. knowing fully well his supposed civilian or security officials target were low . . .IMO, It appears, the guy aim was not to blow himself up, but to park the car, then go out and detonate it . .  but when thwarted, he had to comply to where he was directed to, maybe bidding his time for whatever reasons  . . and boom . .their unstable bomb went off as usual . . or was there a struggle during interrogation between the policeman and the culprit maybe to seize the keys ( you know that is the first line of action of our law enforcers on defaulting drivers) . .which led to the unfortunate suicide colored event . .Just analyzing the whole scenario here . . cos the agressor was able to make his way inside the complex . . .Persuading a suicide bomber is not a norm , not after getting close to the target

GenBuhari:
Now compare to Nigeria where an individual like OBJ stole more than $123bn in just 8years
yeat he is still walking freely around and even has audacity to make regular speeches chatting nonsense